Neural Amp Modeler vs Mesa/Boogie JP-2C

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Neural Amp Modeler vs Mesa/Boogie JP-2C

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Күн бұрын

There has been a lot of buzz lately about the Neural Amp Modeler, so I decided to put it to the test by using it to clone my Mesa/Boogie JP2C, and shoot it out against the real amp. All sound samples are unprocessed with no post EQ, and only a hard limiter to increase the final volume. They also use the same York Audio Mesa Rectifier cabinet IR to keep things consistent. You can download my JP2C capture files here: tonehunt.org/P...
0:00 Intro
0:14 About the NAM
1:19 Comparison in a mix
2:45 Guitar only comparison
3:40 Closing thoughts
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@pianoatthirty Жыл бұрын

NO WAY… i am completely speechless… what a time to be alive with open source stuff these days. Thanks for doing this!

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Absolutely, thanks for checking it out!

@hip-hopjedi4423 11 ай бұрын

I'm impressed, now I just need my friend to model his original C++ for me 😅

@MrShadyKiller 3 ай бұрын

I got back to guitar playing after 2 years of having a break. I started using NAM and...I am amazed by the quality of this tool and the community. This is something we all needed, for real.

@victordiesel Жыл бұрын

I really really apreciate you did this on E standard. Most reviews nowadays are down tuned and i feel its Harder to tell any significant differences between amps the lower you go. I am using Nam lately and its amazing. Im gonna try to use one of these profile for my next single. Great job my friend!! Cheers from Colombia!

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

I am glad you like it. I tend to use guitars in a lot of different tunings, but definitely love playing in E standard and can agree that it can be tough to discern differences in super low tunings.

@alexdenton6586 Жыл бұрын

What is crazy and what I find the most mind-blowing is that modeling not only is the future but also it sounds ( in my experience ) much better than traditional amplifiers because we have access to absolutely all the settings that are not the case on a tube or transistor amplifier. Many people complain about modeling because they usually stick to the basic presets, whereas if you take the time to adjust everything yourself I hold onto the result that I have had for all these years playing on tube amps. The only advantage of these amps is that they are much simpler, with fewer settings.

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

I’ve been a proponent of modeling for a long time. In my opinion, for a lot of use cases the convenience supersedes any tonal difference. I’ve used so many pieces of gear extensively and seem to always gravitate to plugins for recording, and my Helix for live use. Thanks for checking out the video!

@martyshwaartz971 Жыл бұрын

Right?? Having additional EQ and Gain shaping on an AC30 or Rockerverb is insane!!

@morellasgeorgios8449 Жыл бұрын

only for the miced up sound and for convenience. I now use three amps at the same time in the studio vs a loud drummer. Modellers can only cope if I run them in the loop of the amps. Through pa speakers forget it and none can model my system with dual amps and separate amp for harmonizer for example.

@morellasgeorgios8449 Жыл бұрын

@@PMJmetalyou tone matched perfectly but man ot sounds dark with muddy bass and no clarity. Why? Did you lowpass the guitars? Is this your preference?

@fretBeastForever Жыл бұрын

And yes, I can feel the tightness and it`s my favorite setup. Thank you Paul :)

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

So glad you like it. Thanks for checking it out!

@davidshankle7359 Жыл бұрын

Nicely done my friend I really like this new technology. I have been a fractal audio guy for fourteen years and is nice to see this kind of stuff come in software.

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

It’s definitely awesome stuff, thanks for checking the video out!

@masterofreality230 Жыл бұрын

$4k vs free......lol What a time to be alive. I still like my Mark V 25, but its cool to be able to pull up any tone you could ever want.

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

It’s certainly an awesome way to test out expensive gear without spending any money. Thanks for watching!

@rockingstar3534 11 ай бұрын

Wow, that's is almost identical! Only guitar player may notice any minor difference. Generally listener won't hear any. BTW, you have killer playing skills. Your 3 note per string run at 2:23 is Wow...clean!

@AaronWood Жыл бұрын

I like the parts where you talked and then played the guitar.

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking out the video, Aaron. 🤣

@William_Earl Жыл бұрын

This plug-in alone should absolutely push other companies to make their sims sound as realistic as possible going forward. IMO Fractal is still king when it comes to engineering the most realistic sim and effects, while making them extremely customizable. I realize this plug-in is about captures, and for most people, all they want is an amp and overdrive with very basic delay and reverb, and that’s fine. For others, we love having the best of the best for inspiration. This plug-in is a huge step to pushing for companies to create higher quality. Can’t wait for the day when open source effects become as good as top shelf hardware and plug-ins.

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Absolutely, its a great time to be a guitarist. Thanks for checking out the video!

@Marcin79W Жыл бұрын

Digital sound is so good, one would buy a song and wouldn't have a chance to guess if it was a real amp or plugin used. Thanks for the video.

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

I agree, while back to back you might notice a small difference, without that context there would be know way to know. Thanks for watching!

@BradRocker Ай бұрын

Wow Man !! I really love these captures. Thank you so much.

@frankjacovino6016 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Paul for the excellent comparison...Upon first listening I detect the modeler is a bit thinner sounding than the real deal.......but as you say its really close in comparison...

@AkiraSpectrum 7 ай бұрын

subscribed! really loving NAM right now, can't go back to neural dsp vst's after playing NAM

@philippgrunert8776 Жыл бұрын

This is awesome, i bet no-one will really notice in a mix

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Yep, without a direct back to back comparison there really wouldn’t be any way to tell. Thanks for checking out the video!

@MeTuLHeD Жыл бұрын

Paul...your capture here is absolutely excellent. Just when I think I detect a difference, I go back and listen and I'm not sure. Perhaps the real amp has a bit more fullness on the bottom. But then...maybe not. :D I do think the capture sounds a bit more open on top. Not fizzy. Just clearer somehow. Almost imperceptible. And I'm listening on Kali studio monitors! Great job here dude!

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Glad you are enjoying the captures, thanks so much!

@georgeangelakopoulos8884 Жыл бұрын

Hey Paul, fm9 owner here. Just wanted to say thank for the capture and give as sub, well deserved man!

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thank you, it is much appreciated!

@Saterfoo Жыл бұрын

I absolutley LOVE this. Its super subtle but the difference is in the low end for sure. I would imagine a plugin like virtual tape machine from slate could really help with that. I think I may never have to buy a new amp again. Given the nature of it being open source, I think we will see insane features come out soon!

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Oh, a tape machine plug in could be interesting to try with it. Thanks for checking out the video!

@Saterfoo Жыл бұрын

@@PMJmetal Great work on the video man!

@zakklee2556 Жыл бұрын

Can't wait for the detailed capture.

@KrstovicNikola 10 ай бұрын

I downloaded your pack today, as i was trying the new Atomic Tonocracy, and it sounds great man! Tnx for the effort.

@nbl95 8 ай бұрын

That is just nuts man

@dereklarance6321 Жыл бұрын

That’s crazy! There’s almost no difference. Yes you are correct, the capture sounds a bit brighter than the real amp, but I actually like the capture more than the real amp dude. Rock on!

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Glad you like it, thanks for watching.

@user-bo7ne9jm7u Жыл бұрын

Thanx!!! Very, very cool plug-in!!!

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Glad you dig it, thanks!

@jasondufour8360 Жыл бұрын

I fucking love your solos bro. You have such a distinct playing style and damn it I miss jamming with ya! Great job on this review video bud! It’s crazy how technology is changing the guitar game. Keep up the great work Paul 🤘🏻

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much bud, I miss jamming with you also. I appreciate the support and hope all is well!

@evuono Жыл бұрын

thanks for the package. I am already using and enjoying.

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Glad you dig it, thanks for watching!

@f0kxi Жыл бұрын

Awesome playing and sound dude 🤘🏾

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@mike_likes_sludge Жыл бұрын

These and the Satan are very high quality. Thank you.

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@JohnPaulGiancarlo Жыл бұрын

Nice video ! Would be nice to also see a comparison against the latest boogie plugin from Neural DSP !

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Good idea, maybe a 3 way comparison between NAM, the IIC+ plugin, and Archetype Petrucci!

@MeTuLHeD Жыл бұрын

@@PMJmetal Throw in the Amped Fluff 2C from ML Sound Lab and that would be one AWESOME comparison! :D

@andyparkerlee6550 Жыл бұрын

Hi Paul, you did a great job. The capture sounds great and is very near, but the real deal has a kind of a little MoJo. In my ears a bit more punch in the deeper frequencies. But when nobody tells you what the capture is, you can't hear it. Thanks for your video. All the best from Germany Andy

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment, Andy. I totally agree. The real amp still has a little something to it. Again, maybe a more detailed clone would change that, but I can definitely hear that the clone sounds thinner in the low end compared to the real thing. But again, unless someone where to show them side by side, it wouldn’t really be possible to notice a difference. Thanks for checking the video out!

@gianlutallica Жыл бұрын

NAM is great and we all loving it but man, that guitar is sick as hell! Great video and thanks for the profiles 🍻

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thanks, it is probably my favorite guitar.

@francesjulian2917 Жыл бұрын

Another amazing thing you did. Love it. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@dickjonesify 7 ай бұрын

NAM is legit. Not only does it sound amazing, it actually feeeeels great to play. Sometimes that's the missing element with plugins. Great job.

@rodrigobrum6345 Жыл бұрын

Estou impresionado com os seus profiles Parabens pela iniciativa!

@hannibalbarkas1350 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the profile! I love this software.

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Glad you like it!

@JayOneAlumni Жыл бұрын

awesome sounds and thanks for sharing

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

@gerrydaly5409 Жыл бұрын

Great tones - thanks for sharing your captures

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking them out!

@georgepelekoudis Жыл бұрын

NAM’s a bit brighter, but that’ll probably save a round of HPF’ing come mix time. Nice work.

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Thanks so much!

@Plipas Жыл бұрын

thank you for your video. How did you captured your amp ? Also does the NAM export the impulse response as .wav in order to load it in an I.R. loader pedal, like the "impulse" from tc electronics ?

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

I captured the amp using a line 6 helix as an interface, and used the slave out on the JP2c. My captures do not include an impulse response, it’s just a capture of the head.

@bobhadp Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@michaelhuntley353 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Great review!

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@80s_kid Жыл бұрын

The hype is understandable, Neural is good stuff. Your right hand technique is insane. 👍

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it!

@80s_kid Жыл бұрын

@@PMJmetal You're welcome Paul, we know it takes a lot of time and energy to develop to this level. :)

@XiyuYang Жыл бұрын

Still prefer the amp, the capture sounds nasal and significantly brighter in comparison. But in a mix there's barely any difference. Very impressed.

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Definitely, a capture won’t 100% replace an amp. But it’s super cool that users can share emulations of their gear with each other. It’s a lot of fun. Thanks for watching!

@lastcall9998 Жыл бұрын

Could you buy a Mark II C (or whatever Petrucci uses these days) and share the NAM too? This one sounds stellar already X) (Clean, OD and Lead would be awesome). (I kid about buying another Mesa, lol..... but maybe you could meet him and ask him to let you do it REAL QUICK, lol) Cheers.

@NACHOXVALLE Жыл бұрын

The NAM seems to sound brighter, the valve sim is astounding, very impressive.

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out!

@NACHOXVALLE Жыл бұрын

@@PMJmetal Thx a lot for your insight.

@gizemkayhan9245 Жыл бұрын

i have tried and man oh yeah this sounds killer this is best sounding of all amp sims i've used i recommend to anybody who wants to get close for petrucci sound

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

I’m glad you like them, thanks for checking them out!

@sebastianzerbin4225 Жыл бұрын

awesome playing. nice arrangement of the vid and info.

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the kind words!

@peptoattack Жыл бұрын

I came to your same conclusions (more bright and tight). Not bad characteristics though, that's kind of desirable. But yes, with NAM you can get a lot closer if you spend some more time.

@neutron_audio 8 ай бұрын

NAM. EPIC❤

@sr-vw2pm Жыл бұрын

Cheers for the download 😊

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@centeroftheearthmining4095 Жыл бұрын

Awesome!!!!

@godface81 Жыл бұрын

Very cool thank you

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching.

@coolmacatrain9434 3 ай бұрын

1:21 Can you explain the difference in sound between the Boogie "pushing Air" and the Neural Amp Modeler playing through various different PC sound cards (or are you using a PA and how close does that sound to the Boogie in a live room?) also, what is the sustain like on the Neural Amp Modeler compared to a Boogie live Amp turned up loud? I cannot see how there could be any real sustain .. maybe I'm wrong? For me an amps sustain is EVERYTHING .. when listening to classic rock songs and solos they were all recorded with loud Amps .. cam the Neural Amp Modeler reproduce that loud Amp on the verge of feedback sound?

@AkiraSpectrum 21 күн бұрын

have you thought about doing a JP2C and Satan for Tonex? I'd be SO DOWN!

@Airtrooper719 Жыл бұрын

NAM made me sell my Axe-Fx II 😂 it's so f****** good!

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

It’s crazy how good a free plugin can be. Thanks for checking out the video!

@VenelinNikolov Жыл бұрын

Great video comparison. The sound is amazing ! Only one thing, can't click/access the download links! Could you fix them?

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

KZfaq has to verify my ID before links will become clickable, that should be up and running within the next 24 hours or so. Thanks for checking out the video and leaving a comment!

@Loreen-yi2um Жыл бұрын

Wow! Sounds great.

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

@Tryggvasson 11 ай бұрын

bitchin' sound! and great playing! really loved the solo.

@PMJmetal 10 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@Guyllom44 Жыл бұрын

please, don't forget to share your IR impulse ... thanks :=) but great job for reamping :=)

@electropentatonic Жыл бұрын

The nam caputure did sound tighter but man, it sounds really really good

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you like it!

@themegaspook6916 Жыл бұрын

Holy shit

@DVARTBASS Жыл бұрын

1) Paul, are you create this sound with digital CAB and Mic, or Real Cab and mic? 2) How about NAM work with bass-guitar tone. What do you think about this?

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

This sound is using an impulse response, not a real cab. You can use NAM for bass, there are some captures of bass amps and pedals. Thanks for watching!

@Stahlengelmusic Жыл бұрын

Great plugin. Was capturing my Mesa Dual Rectifier Rev F preowned by Richard Kruspe Rammstein yesterday. One guy have me a comment about this software and after your video I think about sending back the tonex capture but is it possible to capture a full rig? Amp miced Cab into Mic Pre into a Compressor. In tonex I could is the full way and was really satisfied. Thanks alot for your video!

@ant1738 Жыл бұрын

Can I use this plug-in w/ Audacity Studio ?? And how do I install? Thanks! Great! Vid and excellent performance!

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thank you! If Audacity supports VST plug ins, you should be able to use it, I’ve never tried Audacity so I’m not sure though.

@mariocalzolari9506 Жыл бұрын

Impressive, really.

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@kimwestwood8840 3 ай бұрын

I have a question that may sound stupid. On the tone hunt page are downloads of different amps, cabs etc right? So how do I actually download those into my PC? Looks like zip files? Need to be converted? I am totally lost dood

@giancarlopaolini7529 Жыл бұрын

Excellent tone and ...excellent guitar :-) yes....the game now will be much harder for the big guys. If people owning all those iconic amps will decently produce accurate profiles of those amps then it will be the end of the big guys (Kemper, Fractal, QC etc.,) and amp manufacturers as well I'm afraid ....like saying "the good and the bad side of things".

@benburnett8109 Жыл бұрын

NO. The big guys will crush this infantile program. When it's free it means it's not protected. AND releasing free software that is unprotected open source is kinda like "butt drilling" a prostitute without a bag on. You get to pop but you also get to carry viral diseases for the rest of your life. IN this case, the juice is not worth the squeeze. AND some big company will figure out how to crush it. This will go away very quickly. Just like internet friends. Gone before you know it. FREE=DUMB FREE=BAD FREE=ZERO SUPPORT. FREE=CRUSHED BY REAL COMPANY. FREE=ONE AND DONE. Neural will crush this based on name trademark infirigement. That lawsuit is already heading thru the courts. Won't be long now. There is no good here. Only bad. Think dripping pus out of the head of your peepee

@Anshul1614 Жыл бұрын

there is still a little bit of a difference. Maybe it's just a little bit low fidelity than the real amp. Damn amazing though. Nothing Anybody'll miss for sure.

@AnimeAsLeaders998 Жыл бұрын

Hi pls let me know once the link is up and running. can't access it right now

@ayeapprove Жыл бұрын

Link isn't a link right now

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

KZfaq wont allow the full link until they approve my account is verified, which will take about 24 hours supposedly. Until then, this is the link: drive.google.com/file/d/1bjRuc6cVNdRqtDba_SnTILOjPs7LVUvY/view?usp=sharing

@guilhermemazorra1746 Жыл бұрын

WOW Mannn, this is the perfect sound I was Looking for... It would be too much to ask if you could Share this IR as well? Thank you so much

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, unfortunately I can’t give out the IR, but it is in this pack. It is the YA mes 412 os JP mix: www.yorkaudio.co/product-page/mes-412-os-v2

@guilhermemazorra1746 Жыл бұрын

@@PMJmetal No problem my friend, just to know the name it helps me, I'm going to search for it thanks brow!

@jasonzdora Жыл бұрын

I can genuinely say I like the NAM version better :) How many Epochs did you run and what was your ESR?

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Glad you like it! Everything was set to the defaults, so I believe it was 100 epochs.

@jasonzdora Жыл бұрын

@@PMJmetal Thats awesome for a 100epoch model. I have some videos on my channel to show how to install the trainer locally if youre interested in doing higher epochs or just not having to worry about Google Collabs timing out on you. Great work on the video, man!

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

@@jasonzdora Awesome, I will definitely take a look! I plan on putting a more elaborate amp pack together at the request of the NAM group on Facebook so maybe I will see if its feasible for me to get more detailed with it. Thanks!

@mookytc Жыл бұрын

Great video look forward to testing the captures. Is there a site other than a Facebook page to test out community captures?

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out! It seems like most people are posting their captures on tonehunt.org

@mookytc Жыл бұрын

@@PMJmetal Nice thank you!

@MrLotnique Жыл бұрын

Great work! BTW: link to google drive doesn't work

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

@angelshred82 Жыл бұрын

En la parte rítmica le falta graves con respecto al amp.

@100ftfox Жыл бұрын

yes, I would like a Celine Dion cover please. My Guitar Will Go On. Thank you in advance.

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

If only Dragonforce didn’t already do it. 🤣

@loredanamassini9484 Жыл бұрын

Nam wins Always uff....

@jonnnybravo4092 Жыл бұрын

Now just let me load it into some hardware Or overright whatever is in my positive grid spark and i will be happy for a long time.

@matthewearl9824 Жыл бұрын

The plugin has less attack. Why?

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

I didn’t notice less attack, but it could be because I used the “easy mode” method to make my capture. Thanks for checking out the video!

@fuck_off_ Жыл бұрын

Real amp is breathing. NAM is soo close and soo far.

@nivo6379 Жыл бұрын

Haha, I like NAM better. It has more grind in the top end.

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Glad you dig it!

@kordaxmint533 Жыл бұрын

The difference is notable. You also need to consider that changing the amp settings in the model will lead to a lot more inaccuracy, unlike in the actual amp.

@mattwarrensocal Жыл бұрын

Works best with a tube intel i9 cpu

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Tone for days!

@kimseniorb Жыл бұрын

the loadbox is critical. torpedo lbs are not good

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

I didnt need to use a load box, as the JP-2C has the ability to turn off the cab, and I was able to just use the slave out on the head. Thanks for checking out the video.

@ertan478 Жыл бұрын

low end difference

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

I agree, I do feel like the real amp has more low end to it. However, after a high and low pass filter it may even things out.

@rickard9294 Жыл бұрын

NAM is able to capture "every" detail. It is possible to control the parameters of the profiling. I do not know how this amp was captured though.

@obi-wannabekennotbi2418 Жыл бұрын

Have you switched the EQ off in the NAM plugin?

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

I did not switch it to off, but i also did not adjust them at all. All settings were set to noon.

@topavelka Жыл бұрын

Sounds good huh? :-) . . . and its FREE :-)

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

It’s definitely pretty awesome. And yeah, can’t beat the price.

@Twixter.. Жыл бұрын

The NAM plug sounds better 😂 Get rid of that hunk of cobber and wood 😅

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I may hold onto it for posterity’s sake. 😂 Thanks for watching!

@hoanghoangie7557 Жыл бұрын

can we have a link of ur cab it as well?

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

I cannot give that away unfortunately because it is a paid impulse response. You can purchase them here though: www.yorkaudio.co/product-page/mes-412-os-v2

@adam2178 Жыл бұрын

google drive link doesn't work! Missing characters

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

@ehdforlife Жыл бұрын

But how do actually model the amps with it?

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

I personally did it using this method: colab.research.google.com/github/sdatkinson/neural-amp-modeler/blob/main/bin/train/easy_colab.ipynb

@dubwaxaudio Жыл бұрын

Which York cab IR mic/position is that?

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

It’s part of their Mesa Rectifier cab pack and is the JP mix

@dubwaxaudio Жыл бұрын

@@PMJmetal which one specifically?

@notalkguitarampplug-insrev784 Жыл бұрын

Did you try null test?

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking out the video. I have not tried that.

@Radical_Middle Жыл бұрын

cant make any fair judgement until I hear amp and REAL cab vs neural and IR. this IR is weakest link in real amp chain and might be responsible for unification of both sounds.

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

That could be a fun experiment to make a video on. 🤔

@Radical_Middle Жыл бұрын

@@PMJmetal yes:) could be an experiment on your neighbours IR too:)

@Timanator 23 күн бұрын

Wow, I cant hear any difference!!

@benburnett8109 Жыл бұрын

135 subs and 8800 views. NO. this is fraudulent. Somthing does not add up here.

@PMJmetal Жыл бұрын

Don’t know what to tell you. I started this channel, shared this video in a couple groups and it seems to have taken off. It is, however, not fraudulent. 🤷‍♂️