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My cats learned how to press buttons to say words. But is it language? Cats are smarter than you think. But are they smart enough to learn human language? We know about apes learning sign language and I'm sure you have moments of deep communication with your pets. How much do they understand and how far can we push that limit? Well, I decided to take a month and train my cats to speak using buttons! Button training may be something you've seen with other famous pets like Bunny the dog. Could it be the key to unlocking cat language? Watch and find out!
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0:00 Intro
2:05 Animals language experiments
5:06 Could I teach my cats language?
7:37 Experiment setup
10:01 Training
29:43 Did they learn language?
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@stranger7968
@stranger7968 3 жыл бұрын
Cat have trained human to say "yeah" everytime he presses a button.
@swagepicgamer4135
@swagepicgamer4135 3 жыл бұрын
True
@jenjuice432
@jenjuice432 3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist 🤯
@neonrukario3767
@neonrukario3767 3 жыл бұрын
I though it was "Yeeh-"
@spark_6710
@spark_6710 3 жыл бұрын
LOLLOLLOL 👍👍👍🤣😂😆 THE BEST COMMENT HERE !!!😂💜💜💜💜🥁🐉🎤🎵🎶💕💞
@Dark.Star.Alchemy
@Dark.Star.Alchemy 2 жыл бұрын
😹 seems adequate
@catlovernat
@catlovernat 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the experiment was impacted by adding all the buttons at once rather than starting it with one word at a time.
@athenawilson4019
@athenawilson4019 3 жыл бұрын
Billispeaks is a KZfaq channel in which a young woman has carefully and patiently been teaching her 12 year old cat Billi to use floor buttons. Billi has also demonstrated the ability to create new phrases (such as Washoe's "fruit drink").
@Ayelis
@Ayelis 3 жыл бұрын
It's definitely a process though. As the great Linkin Park says: "it starts with one thing".
@70sman
@70sman 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ayelis I don't know why
@Katie-xb5fu
@Katie-xb5fu 3 жыл бұрын
@@athenawilson4019 Billi is incredibly smart. I love that channel
@abelpazos51
@abelpazos51 3 жыл бұрын
The "attention me" button pissed me off lmfao thats not proper English and too close to the "pets" button
@ComedorDelrico
@ComedorDelrico Жыл бұрын
The reason it became harder over time was something called "variable interval schedule reinforcement". Because, in Loqi's mind, pressing the button sometimes rewarded him with a treat and sometimes didn't, he was more willing to tolerate the failed attempts and keep going. I think the experiment would have been more successful if only one button had been introduced first. Also, I think moving it around to see "can you find it now?" was a mistake. That unnecessarily complicated things and confused him.
@love.wildly.live.fearlessly
@love.wildly.live.fearlessly Жыл бұрын
All you said was facts. We taught our dog. Well technically 3 buttons but the walk and play had to be put up cause our dog only wanted to play and walk lol but the outside button held on and we taught her using treats which was a mistake cause no matter what the button said the dog just assumed treat and then that meant retraining her to know the button by the back door that said outside meant going potty and that took longer than necessary. So when and if we do more buttons we know never do a treat button and never give treats and like you said moving it around is not ok. Animals Need to know that this button by the door that says outside or potty means that’s what I need to do and if you move the button that’s confusing.
@pcatMe
@pcatMe Жыл бұрын
Agree.
@beatles42ohgg94
@beatles42ohgg94 Жыл бұрын
im pretty sure all the people that do these videos either have stock or get paid for each purchase of these stupid fucking buttons... its a scam. even a rat can press the green button for food vs the red buttton....
@brookewhittington1204
@brookewhittington1204 Жыл бұрын
Too many buttons. Pick words the cats already know. Do not have a treat button. Do not pick the buttons up. Teaching them to push a button is really no different than teaching them anything else. When I ask my pup to get his ball, he gets his ball. If I ask him to go get his crab or his opossum toy (and many others), he will go find the specific toy I asked for. He has even pushed the "outside" button to go get a toy he knows he left in the backyard. He knows hundreds of words... But I live alone, with just him, and I talk to him ALL THE TIME. If you're not the kind of person who would normally make an effort to learn their signals and reward them for giving them, you're probably not the kind of person who is going to teach them to do so by pressing a button. I believe it varies by animals as well.
@DonaldKronos
@DonaldKronos Жыл бұрын
Yes, the teaching method was terrible. And I don't mean this to insult the teacher, but rather to critique the teaching method itself. I hope he'll give it another try and take into consideration some of the constructive criticism that has been given in this video's comments.
@rianamohamed300
@rianamohamed300 2 жыл бұрын
Some cats are definitely very very intelligent compared to others. I had a cat who watched water flow in the shower n disappear down the drain, then realise if the same would happen with pee. So she used the shower to pee for a while until she got into trouble. She also figured how to knock on the window to get inside. She taught her younger siblings from a new litter these things. Very clever girl.
@DonaldKronos
@DonaldKronos Жыл бұрын
Good observations. Yes, cats generally teach each other through demonstration. A human using the same method could probably teach a cat quite effectively. For example, pressing a button that says door and then opening the door, or closing the door, or rattling the doorknob, not necessarily doing the same thing with the door every time but always interacting with the door after pressing the door button. If the cat didn't try the button on their own, the teacher could help the cat press the button the first few times to give it the idea that it can also use that button to communicate that something should be done with the door. As for the cat peeing in the shower drain, I've always wondered why humans generally expect cats to use a litter box exclusively rather than giving them some sort of a toilet designed for cats or a toilet attachment to make the regular toilet more usable for a cat or something. I've also wondered why there are no structures or facilities built for pets on a leash to properly relieve themselves in a way that doesn't leave a mess behind for someone to clean up or for someone else to potentially step on. I get that the shower isn't the ideal place for that, but imagine a similar structure with an auto flush mechanism. Regardless, the fact that your cat was able to learn that without specifically being taught or even having had it demonstrated definitely attests to the intelligence of that cat.
@deborahcurtis1385
@deborahcurtis1385 6 ай бұрын
Yes I had a cat which worked out how to knock on the window to make me open the door. I had a fold up outside lounge chair near the window and she pushed it to tap on the window. Clever or what??
@piaappel6823
@piaappel6823 5 ай бұрын
I have a long metal chain hanging on my main door at home and I showed my cats, if they push the chain with her paw against the door, I will come and open the door to let them in. One cat understood it right away and does it now every time she wants to come in the house. My other cat is still using her voice and meows. They have another entrance which is only for them that they always can get in and out of the house like they please, but it's on the first floor and for that they have to climb a bit and so they choose which entrance they want to use. One of my cats always pees outside in the drain on the street, because she likes it, when it disappears and she does not have to cover it, because of other cats.
@deborahcurtis1385
@deborahcurtis1385 5 ай бұрын
@@piaappel6823 I'm going to train mine to use the inside toilet, there's a device called 'litter quitter' you put litter inside it on the floor, then move it onto the toilet, then remove an inside layer which has a small hole, then another with a bigger hole and pretty soon the cat is just doing their business on your toilet. One of my cats is very fussy about the litter and wants me to clean up after him and before he uses it. so it will be good to train him!
@Dawn737
@Dawn737 Ай бұрын
I had two cats, one brighter than the other, but both providing some interesting entertainment. I showed them a small bottle of catnip (about the size of a spice bottle). One cat took a sniff and then tried to crawl inside the bottle, suctioning her nose to the opening of the bottle and rolling around with it while I got a good laugh. The other cat didn't like me laughing at cats and feared I might think myself superior, so when I showed her the bottle, she stuck her paw in, grabbed a scoop of the catnip flakes, dropped it all in front of the other cat and walked away.
@bean5087
@bean5087 2 жыл бұрын
the buttons needed to be introduced one by one and farther apart. it's like trying to teach an infant 10 different words at once when they barely know their first word.
@AlexisDimes
@AlexisDimes 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah like teaching mom and dad at the same time confuses babies often. They say mom when they mean dad or vice versa.
@ragatonkermit2707
@ragatonkermit2707 2 жыл бұрын
It was sad seeing how wrongly he was doing it. Yeah. And how much he was giving up and trying to say that it's not possible.
@gabeh.4297
@gabeh.4297 2 жыл бұрын
that's exactly how we teach infants to speak tho...
@WeatherInOrlando
@WeatherInOrlando 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless of how you teach them, it's not possible. If they couldn't teach a chimpanzee language you can't teach a cat.
@gabeh.4297
@gabeh.4297 2 жыл бұрын
@@WeatherInOrlando ^^^
@Mykasan
@Mykasan 3 жыл бұрын
i don't really get what the "attention me" button do when there's already snuggles and pets just next to it
@wmdkitty
@wmdkitty 3 жыл бұрын
Don't want pets, don't want snuggles, just want attention.
@AD-jq7ow
@AD-jq7ow 3 жыл бұрын
@@wmdkitty and what do you do?
@cici3147
@cici3147 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I think this could have been added later. It seems to be used here for scratches.
@DjangoUnSkilled
@DjangoUnSkilled 3 жыл бұрын
Even you are confused lol
@jra3978
@jra3978 3 жыл бұрын
Im considering doing this with my bombay cat. Shes very vocal and sometimes i do think its just for attention. Not for snuggles, food, play etc. Just to get me to look at her!
@DiscoveryWonders
@DiscoveryWonders 2 жыл бұрын
Im a human and what “attention me” means specifically, other than look at me. Consistency is a a key . Dogs learn from 2-4-6-8 buttons... growing over loong time.
@DonaldKronos
@DonaldKronos Жыл бұрын
Yes, some of the buttons lacked any unambiguous obvious single meaning. Also, he spoke of doing whatever the button said whenever it was pressed, and I was waiting to see what thing he was going to do when the NO button was pressed, but instead what I saw was him telling the cat no every time the food button was pressed. Definitely not the most well thought out language lessons.
@TuxnDog
@TuxnDog 11 күн бұрын
My dog, Tuxndog is a cane corso and she is up to 80 buttons in one year. Thousands of videos online. Just a few hundred here on KZfaq so far just started a few few months ago. It's an exciting New World a brave New World. Because it's getting spooky how she understands and in full conversations what she is demanding on her sound 🎉buttons.
@punnipur
@punnipur 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile inside the cat mind: "my human is so-well trained! He learned how to feed me every time I press a strange button".
@7carbonite
@7carbonite 5 ай бұрын
whos training who lol
@Afrotechmods
@Afrotechmods 3 жыл бұрын
"cats cats cats cats CATS cats cats cats cats cats" finally someone is speaking my language
@user-vn7ce5ig1z
@user-vn7ce5ig1z 3 жыл бұрын
Woah, it's ATM! 😲 I thought you were done with KZfaq. I guess you were just done with making videos.
@LuckyNala
@LuckyNala 3 жыл бұрын
Cats cats CATS cats cats cats!
@siobhanhenry9094
@siobhanhenry9094 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Haydenzoned231
@Haydenzoned231 3 жыл бұрын
CAT CAT CAT CATS
@hilarytherien5342
@hilarytherien5342 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-vn7ce5ig1z aqqqqqqqqaqqqqqqqqqqaqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq
@minifix
@minifix 3 жыл бұрын
Why not start with fewer buttons? And why have buttons with no response, like "no" and "food"? Of course the cats are confused... And maybe the board should be in the hallway if you want to teach them the "out" button.
@indoora
@indoora 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I thought.
@ChefMimsy
@ChefMimsy 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. I would have started with one, just to teach how to press the button and associate it with the word/reward.
@vsee3154
@vsee3154 3 жыл бұрын
I would have the board divided into different painted squares.. Seems you have two colors for each button.
@ChefMimsy
@ChefMimsy 3 жыл бұрын
@@vsee3154 I'd first research which parts of the spectrum are best perceived by cats and I'd choose higher contrasing colors.
@sophierobinson2738
@sophierobinson2738 3 жыл бұрын
See Billi Speaks channel.
@Itz_Mothii
@Itz_Mothii 2 жыл бұрын
Cats if they could talk: “GIVE ME TREATS, GIVE ME ATTENTION, GIVE ME FOOD”
@tammypark8896
@tammypark8896 Жыл бұрын
I don’t disagree with some of the things you’ve said. Critical thinking is so important. So I’m gonna apply a little here. Applied behavior analysis (what you’ve referenced w/Skinner) is a detailed skill that takes many years of practice and study to master. It’s both science and art. You can practice it for 10 years and still learn something new. It isn’t something u can have a basic understanding of and then just do it. We project far more than we think we do, and that prevents us from seeing what the animal is seeing. Videotaping yourself with some understanding/feedback from an experienced mentor can help u see how training mechanics work/don’t work. Watching this video I felt bad for all parties… it’s frustrating to try and train an animal that isn’t getting it, it’s frustrating for the animal if there is lack of clarity and not enough reinforcement. Mechanical skill was lacking on the trainer’s part. Rate of reinforcement, setting the learner up for success (to harness motivation), splitting behaviors… an understanding of this was clearly lacking. Once there is success with a behavior then you test the understanding of it… which I saw you trying to do, but you had far too many variables for the animal to succeed and gain clarity. I would like to see this experiment repeated under controlled conditions with experienced trainers. I don’t disagree with some of your conclusions, but this experiment just wasn’t designed well enough to come to those conclusions. Honestly though, I commend you for the dedication and love you clearly demonstrated for your cats. Not many people are willing to put in that much time and dedication. Thankyou so much for sharing
@agent57
@agent57 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, like I think it's fair to talk about the projection going into these kind of experiments, (especially when part of a fad on KZfaq) and how studies in the past may or may not have been biased, but the jump to "animals can't meaningfully communicate" at the end of watching Loki (sp?) repeatedly convey that he wants treats and be told "no, wrong button" for what this guy wants him to mean, is kinda wild.
@DonaldKronos
@DonaldKronos Жыл бұрын
Pretty well said, and definitely detailed, which is a good thing in my opinion. I very much disagree with most of the conclusions expressed in the video, but I agree with your assessment that they were not warranted under the circumstances. I also would like to see it revised version of the experiment attempted. In fact I would really like to see the maker of the video modify the experiment and try again and then repeat modifying it and trying again, each time attempting to learn and improve the teaching method, so that other people could watch that series of videos and see how the experiment evolves over time and how the results improve as more beneficial changes to the experiment are selected for continuation over detrimental changes to the experiment which would hopefully be discarded. The teacher has a lot to learn. I think those cats can help with that.
@DonaldKronos
@DonaldKronos Жыл бұрын
@@agent57 I agree. It seems that the teacher went into the experiment with certain expectations and erroneously concluded based on those expectations not being met that the students were unteachable. I think both the students and the teacher should be given another chance, by trying the experiment again with some modifications based on some of the constructive criticism people have given in response to this video.
@queentribble2019
@queentribble2019 3 жыл бұрын
You had too many buttons. Had you started with just the treat one they would have been far less confused. Also, the buttons should have varying sizes and shapes. Half of the buttons are nearly identical to the cats due to their color blindness. They have the basic idea but they're confused by the test. Simplify it and keep trying. :)
@indecisiveimbecile7576
@indecisiveimbecile7576 3 жыл бұрын
The unfortunate thing is the buttons are expensive (20 USD for 4 of the buttons he uses), so it'd probably be hard to find different shapes and sizes that are affordable, and it'd be costly to make your own. Some animals remember the buttons with muscle memory, or maybe they could be labeled with a drawing so they can differentiate which button is which. (They might not associate the drawing with the word, but with the button instead, which is just fine imo) I do agree that he should've started off slowly, so many buttons at once is just gonna confuse and overwhelm them. I also think it's worth noting that a lot of people don't like having "treat" or "food" buttons because, while it's an easy motivator, it can confuse them when other buttons are introduced and they might just associate buttons with food, so they'd keep pressing the button over and over.
@silenceisviolencegovegan885
@silenceisviolencegovegan885 3 жыл бұрын
And he compsres old research.
@ThePallidor
@ThePallidor 3 жыл бұрын
Different texture would be useful. Or photos on the buttons.
@Kwolfx
@Kwolfx 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, cat's are not color blind. They see greens and blues, but their ability to differentiate between red and pink is quite poor. Also, cat's are near sided. I don't think they see the words or patterns the letters make or are paying attention to the colors of the buttons. You'll notice the cats in this video don't even look down at buttons.
@cursedGalataea
@cursedGalataea 2 жыл бұрын
Who told you cats are colourblind? You are very wrong.
@beccadallas
@beccadallas 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching BilliSpeaks. A cat that seems to have figured out how to make small sentences to get her point across.
@poetrybird1st
@poetrybird1st 2 жыл бұрын
Billi has over fifty buttons now. I can't pick a favorite because they're all good. But the latest are so good.
@Sim_Pole
@Sim_Pole Жыл бұрын
Mad
@lyssao.8308
@lyssao.8308 Жыл бұрын
It is some semblance of conveying how she feels. Making her an intelligent and perceptive individual. - And that's amazing to watch. I wonder how it happened.
@Vix2066
@Vix2066 Жыл бұрын
@@Sim_Pole definitely Mad😂 Billi is my favourite. She's so clever!
@zideane1
@zideane1 Жыл бұрын
No she hasnt. Shes learnt to press buttons for attention. Literally every cat does this :'). Almost every one of her 'sentences' are nonsensical, you will get a few that make sense by random chance. Cats talk to us all the time through actions, smells, sounds. Trying to say cats are using complex syntax is pretty hilarious.
@profjbrown
@profjbrown Жыл бұрын
With my first service dog partner, Will, I talked to him constantly. It was initially recommended to me as a way to keep him engaged and I just never stopped. I wasn't trying to teach him anything... but I did. By the time he parted this world, he knew at least 150 words, possibly more. And he knew them well enough that using the wrong combination at the wrong time created a great deal of excitement when it couldn't be fulfilled. At the same time, Will taught me a number of Will-words (for lack of a better term). These were things he trained me (and at least two housemates who never met one another) to understand. For example, when he wanted water in his bowl, he liked to nudge the bowl gently into the wall to create a bell-like sound. I don't know if he liked the sound or what, but that was the cue he wanted you to respond to. If the nearest awake human in the vicinity didn't get that, he'd bang the bowl into the wall. If that didn't work, he'd bark at the bowl. If that didn't work, he'd walk over to the human and bark at them and, when they looked up, go back over to the bowl and bark at it. I think you get the idea. I didn't tell those other two people that Will asked for water by ringing the bowl against the wall so they would get him water when I was in bed. He taught them that. I found out about his moonlighting activities as a housemate-trainer after the fact. We had a very rich communication, made up of things I introduced and things he introduced. For lack of a better way to put it, Will and I had a unique language, I think partially because I never made him use me-words to say Will-things. He had 8 different growls which were used depending on the situation, one of which would make me sit bolt upright in bed from a sound sleep. It wasn't just auditory cues: sometimes it was just stuff we figured out on the fly. At one point, we were together in the middle of nowhere in the mountains. I was in a safe space, so I told him to go play and he went well out of sight. Maybe five minutes later, due to a miscalculation on my part, I found myself sliding down a hill, wondering if he'd hear me when I hit the bottom and called out for him. When I hit the bottom and looked up, he was already there to help. Similarly, when he broke his paw, I knew immediately that something was incredibly wrong and that it wasn't a minor injury, despite other dog owners at the dog park and even the vet prior to the x-ray telling me it looked like a sprain. I knew it wasn't because, while some dogs might move that way due to pain, Will wouldn't have. At the time this was all happening, I thought it was a service dog thing based on the sheer amount of time we with service dog partners spend with them. It's a 24/7/365 situation, and you really do get to know them on a totally different level than any other animal. Now that I have a new service dog partner, I have come to realize that what Will and I had was more unique than I'd realized. We were special to each other in a way that just isn't always the case with service animal partner relationships. My new service dog and I certainly care for one another a great deal, but it just isn't the same. He doesn't really care what I say when I'm talking to him. He cares what I do and whether or not I've said very specific words. Everything else is, at least as far as he lets on, babble. And then there's the fact that some dogs are more attuned to the emotions of humans than others. And that's going to factor in to an ability to convey things beyond a fairly basic dynamic. Even if my current service dog wanted to understand me, I'm not sure he could because he struggles to understand human emotions. If Will saw a human in distress, he would try to comfort them. If Arthur sees a human in distress... I'm not sure he even knows they are distressed. Then again, maybe Arthur and I do understand one another more than most dogs and their humans, and it just seems basic by comparison. Either way, even what Will and I had wasn't a language in the technical sense of that term. It was true communication, but that's not the same thing.
@DonaldKronos
@DonaldKronos Жыл бұрын
I really feel like you're long comment should be pinned at the top of the comments for this video. I doubt the person who made the video will ever see my reply saying that, but my reasoning is quite simple. You may or may not have known much about teaching at the start of the experiences you talked about, but you obviously learned about it from those experiences and likewise your dog, Will, seemingly also learned quite a bit about teaching, through experience. Teaching and learning are both evolutionary processes. That is to say, they both involve the accumulation of change. Your story does not say that explicitly, and yet in my opinion explains it quite well.
@profjbrown
@profjbrown Жыл бұрын
@@DonaldKronos Thanks! I appreciate that! And, yes, learning and teaching are both things that happen over time. I only just realized I communicated something else without saying it directly: the learner has to recognize something as significant before they can learn about it in the first place. So the video creator is actually making two major mistakes. First, he didn't spend enough time with the cats. Second, he didn't use cues that cats tend to recognize as significant. Cats don't usually bother to notice color OR human voices. Even when paired with treats, it takes them a long time to learn. It's not a matter of intelligence. It's a matter of recognizing the significance of something. Assuming the cats should learn fast, and in this specific way, because they are smarter than dogs is just... really anthropocentric. If he'd kept the buttons in a static location, it probably would have worked better.
@mabeljc4224
@mabeljc4224 2 жыл бұрын
With every button they press they are figuring out what you do to each one every time. They are smart.🤔🤗
@smylyface
@smylyface 3 жыл бұрын
You need to train using one button at a time. Once they use that button consistently you add a second button with a different reward. Catnip might work for one. 🥰
@malenaqueen7733
@malenaqueen7733 2 жыл бұрын
I really admire your positivity and patience towards ignorance! 🙇‍♀️ You really make me realize how much I still have to grow..and many more people. I am boiling inside watching this video! 😡
@alestesia
@alestesia Жыл бұрын
Yes, the experiment was bad designed. The trainer didn't even thought about the cat's perception of colours.
@girlz0r
@girlz0r 3 жыл бұрын
BilliSpeaks (here on KZfaq) is another cat that uses buttons! Her favorite word is "Mad".
@heximancer28
@heximancer28 2 жыл бұрын
Your cat was obviously getting curious as to what each button does in those clips and was starting to learn that the different buttons do different things, you make incredible progress, they did amazing for only a month, too pessimistic, very patient but not patient enough for this level of animal training. The next month could have been teaching that not all the buttons do the same thing, the animal was obviously starting to get that, even if there was some digression
@brendakauffman2222
@brendakauffman2222 Жыл бұрын
You literally need to start with one button, or the most 2. Place them near something for association.
@Euthyphro
@Euthyphro 4 ай бұрын
None of this is relevant, because the cat is pressing each button to get certain things. Mainly treats. Humans don’t understand and learn language as a form of conditioning. He explains this in the video.
@Meggyp0p
@Meggyp0p Жыл бұрын
I have been around my cats since they were born, and only one of them is really vocal, but she doesn’t meow at me, she meows at her kittens and she has very specific patterns for each kitten when she calls them, so she has names for them.
@aurora4218
@aurora4218 3 жыл бұрын
I taught my roommates' cat to use a "doorbell" when she wants to leave my room. (It's just a little bell sewed to dinner fabric and attached to the doorpost at her shoulder level) While I've used treats to teach her to follow commands, I didn't want her ringing the bell to get treats. Instead, every time I let her out of my room, I'd reach down and jiggle the fabric, ringing the bell. It took about 2 weeks before she started ringing it herself. To reinforce that I understand the bell to mean "open the door" I make sure to *immediately* go to open it for her. But if she sits by the door and meows, I make sure she doesn't want my attention for something else first (like a fly she wants to catch that's too high on the wall). She's now at a point where she consistently rings the bell to ask to leave my room instead of meowing or worse: shredding the carpet. Because ringing her doorbell is a way for her to communicate something she wants/feels/thinks, instead of her responding to a command, I consider it to be her first word.
@rebeccadelbridge2998
@rebeccadelbridge2998 2 жыл бұрын
My cat "knocks" on our front door when she wants to come in, by banging on the screen door.
@theknightswhosay
@theknightswhosay 2 жыл бұрын
My cats will try to open the door and if it’s completely closed they just sit and wait.
@stacythomas9916
@stacythomas9916 2 жыл бұрын
The pug I used to have taught herself this. We put up an Xmas decor that was some bells hanging from the front door knob the first year we had her. When you'd open the door the bells made noise. On her own she started going up and messing with the bells, ringing them when she wanted out. We ended up having the Xmas decor on our door nonstop for years due to it lol
@TXHEN1
@TXHEN1 2 жыл бұрын
That's crazy, I think I have a really smart cat. He started ringing the bell by himself and if its inside he tries to turn or at least pull or something like that with the door handles when we are near to let us know he wants us to open the door. He also taught us that him biting our fingers(softly) means he wants food.
@bastloki
@bastloki 2 жыл бұрын
My goddam devil feline can open doors and cupboards himself. EVERYTHING HAS CHILDLOCKS ON IT.
@JessieMassoudi
@JessieMassoudi 3 жыл бұрын
Try spreading out the buttons a bit or start with one at a time. On Billie Speaks (the cat channel with the kitty who’s super advanced at this) she said it took her three weeks before she pushed her first button. She (the owner) also uses the buttons to respond. It’s a lot of work but it seems very effective. Billie’s using a ton of buttons now and sometimes makes up “words” like asking to “pet” her owner. It’s cute and a nice look into how animals think. It looks like Loki is testing you with those buttons trying to see which one is the working one. He’s narrowed it down to the two corner ones haha 😻
@robina.9402
@robina.9402 3 жыл бұрын
I love Billie, and also thought she did it one button at a time. And I think the buttons always stay in the same place. Too many variables going on. I believe when Billie's mom thinks she's confusing buttons repeatedly, she presses the one she thinks is right and makes a question sound. I think you could have tried that with Loki after he was struggling to find the treat button in the living room
@BLoodyEx
@BLoodyEx 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Billie is really that advanced. I'd love to see 1-hour+ videos on her channel. From just the short clips that are available - I have to share the critique at the end of this video: Maybe she's just interpreting stuff into it and feeding our wish for it to be possible But I also agree, the way he started this experiment is kinda messy, some of the buttons seem so useless - it's not the best way how he did this I guess
@C-G1894
@C-G1894 3 жыл бұрын
@@BLoodyEx It wouldn't surprise me if a cat could be that advanced. Mine is a therapy animal for anxiety, dissociative disorders and PTSD, she's well-trained and very sociable. I use a lot of technics used for service dogs to train her - she knows some anxiety alerts and DPT. She understands the relationship between words and actions really well, she's able to adapt some commands and words she knows to the context and the patient we work with without my guidance, and she mimics some behaviors in order to make me understand what she wants. Few example of that would be : I've started to train her by making her touch my finger with her nose, saying "touch" and giving her a treat. It was a way to make her understand the idea of a command. As she learned more commands, it became less and less useful, and I started to "boop" her nose for fun, saying "boop". After a few weeks of that, we were cuddling and suddenly, she stared at me. I could feel she wanted something from me but didn't know how to express it - she knew I had treats in my pocket, I often have to reward her when she does something I wish to see more often or to train her randomly through the day, so she can be effective as a therapy animal. Then she gently booped my nose with her paw and stared at me again. I never trained her to do that, she did by mimicking my own booping behavior. I laughed so hard that day, I didn't expect that to happen. She, of course, had her treat, and now, every time we're cuddling, if she wants a treat, she boops me. Makes me feel like a Pez dispenser lol. I use "food" for her wet food, and the first time I introduced her to cat grass, she didn't know what to do with it until I guide her nose into it and said "food". It was the first time I used that word that way, but she understood what I meant instantly. She spends the night in my bedroom to not wake up my mom, but her litter box is in the bathroom, so sometimes she wakes me up at night because she wants to use it... or because she's bored. I taught her that if she meows after I ask "wanna pee?", I will take her to the bathroom. It took her maybe two months to really understand the link between "question-meow-bathroom". She knows this link for more than a year now, and only recently, she has started to turn away her face to say "no" when I ask her the question. I've discovered few weeks ago that if I tell her "I'm going to pee" when I wake up at night and need to use the bathroom, she'll understand and will not go hyper thinking it's breakfast time. But it's not that easy, I've started her training at 4 months old, one command or question at the time. She's 3yo now and even if we're used to communicating together, there's still a lot of "false-alarm", like sometime she meows at "wanna pee?" just because she's excited and really want to play, but not to use her litter box. About this video, I agree there were too many buttons to start, specially if it's for words the cat doesn't know to begin with and/or words with close meaning. One at the time would have been easier for them, and it would have been even better if it was for words they already knew and/or clearly different. Also, instead of writing meaning on the buttons, they should have stick big pictograms on them. It would have made it easier for the cats to differentiate them.
@sleepypisceslove1586
@sleepypisceslove1586 2 жыл бұрын
Can u please direct me to the channel u are talking about? I just started with my cat today, one "treat" button!
@MmMm-sf7pe
@MmMm-sf7pe 2 жыл бұрын
@@BLoodyEx When the owner plays the Hamilton soundtrack, Billi stalks over to the board and says "Noise, ouch, later." And every time the owner tries to start playing the music again, Billi produces variants of "noise ouch." Along with a lashing tail in case anyone doubted she's unhappy, lol. Very clear that Billi understands the buttons.
@acejohnston2290
@acejohnston2290 2 жыл бұрын
The way bill looks when you try to pick him up is amazing
@ryleemock1384
@ryleemock1384 2 жыл бұрын
My goodness guys this is a very entertaining KZfaq video, not an approved scientific study. This is straight up adorable to watch
@SquidandCatAdventures
@SquidandCatAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Rotating the button board was unfair. I mean, think about how hard it is to have a software update move things around and that's when we can read, see colours vividly, use our years of experience with software, and have big brains. Well done though in general as my cat and I have been stuck on not pushing the buttons hard enough for weeks (even though I've rewarded accidental pushes). I think she just doesn't like using the buttons. I was planning on moving them though - as I wanted to get her used to the buttons first by putting them near things that made sense. She understood touching the buttons immediately. It's just pushing down now. I've just started with "treats" and "outside."
@ThePallidor
@ThePallidor 3 жыл бұрын
The buttons move only like a millimeter when depressed. Big levers would be better so they see what's going on.
@jadejaguar69
@jadejaguar69 2 жыл бұрын
I agree it was unfair. He purposefully set himself up for failure so he can apply his working hypothesis to a theory
@ESTilton
@ESTilton 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe change the shape of the buttons if you are going to move them around. Can you imagine if the human language was all round buttons in a certain order and someone swapped the order before you even got the first order down?
@BelindaShort
@BelindaShort 2 жыл бұрын
@@jadejaguar69 that's certainly what it seems like, because he didn't follow most of the protocols that say not to train with food
@SebHaarfagre
@SebHaarfagre 3 жыл бұрын
You should watch BilliSpeaks, that's why this showed in my recommended. She's progressed far beyond anything I've seen. It's very casual how it is presented, but also very wholesome and you quickly realize you have a cat there that really likes to learn, and a mom that has gone about it the right way, and that it has brought them closer together. It's really enjoyable to watch.
@travelwell6049
@travelwell6049 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, and she said it was over two months before Billi started purposefully using the buttons of her own accord.
@estefanani
@estefanani 3 жыл бұрын
yeah this guys attempt was half ass at best LOL. He saw a way ppl were making views and wanted in on it not caring as long as he got them views lol
@jasminegenovesi
@jasminegenovesi 3 жыл бұрын
KZfaq also recommend this to me because I've been binge watching Billi Speaks. So cute!
@sleepypisceslove1586
@sleepypisceslove1586 2 жыл бұрын
Thank u for putting this in the comments. I'm trying to reach and find as much info as I can. We just started today with the one "treat" button. I'm so excited about this adventure we are going on.
@cordeliaface
@cordeliaface 2 жыл бұрын
Yup; and Billi continually hits the 'mad' button, even when her body language says she's fine. I definitely think asking to have a full on conversation with our pets is a bit high of a bar, but training pets to ask about different needs seems achievable. Pets are already aware of some of the words we have. Say "walk," "car" or "outside" around a dog, and they get excited: they *know* what that sound pertains to (a car ride, a walk, being outside), even if they do not understand the concept of the word itself. I think it has more to do with a lack of being able to easily human speech to speak *back* to us. Bunny walks around in a circle and has to actively *think* on which button to push to "speak" to her owner. Dogs normally use something else instead: going to get their leash to ask for a walk, standing by the door and barking/pawing at it to ask to go outside, trying to jump into the car to go for a ride, making their dishes make sound to ask for food/water. They don't have to think before doing any of those actions, it's natural to them, the same way talking is natural to us.
@antonnym214
@antonnym214 Жыл бұрын
From Loki's perspective, HE is training YOU to bring the treat whenever he presses the button. Nice work! You have FAR more patience than I have.
@aaizner847
@aaizner847 Жыл бұрын
The buttons need to be further apart, so that each activity is assigned a location and they're not easily mixed up (Go Outside button located by the door to the outside, treat button located by where the treats are stored, etc). That way multiple buttons also can't be pressed together.
@thealexandrez
@thealexandrez 2 жыл бұрын
i love that he did this very short and flawed experiment and thus concluded all animals definitely can't talk, while i sit here and watch bunny start making sense of past/present/future and talk about dreams. humans think so much of themselves.
@warriorcatkitty
@warriorcatkitty 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I hate how stubbornly some people think. Just because an animal cannot fully understand English, does not at all mean they cannot understand _language._ This experiment he did was so flawed. I can't stand people sometimes.
@missdube1
@missdube1 2 жыл бұрын
the “experiment” is super flawed and looks almost purposely badly designed, and Bunny and Billi can communicate a lot, but it doesn’t mean it’s a language. it’s communication though, and you can see the buttons they press is not purely random. in one of the videos, someone commented that the pet (Bunny or Billi) wanted to make a sentence. no! they have no concept of a sentence. they just want to say more things. contrary to humans, who can make complex sentences while barely conveying any meaning at all. in another video (Bunny or another dog), the dog presses something, and her owner assumes a meaning without seeming to realize that one of the word pressed has very different possible meanings (for example back can be a body part, or more abstractly can refer to a relative place, reciprocity, etc)… it’s unreasonable to think that a pet would learn the body part back and also the back of the yard and also bark back and be fine with the different meanings. humans can do that.
@BelindaShort
@BelindaShort 2 жыл бұрын
It was frustrating and upsetting. I wouldn't dare even trying to train my cats with buttons if they didn't even understand those words. My cats understand play, bird toy, tv, treats, catnip, sleep and out. They come when I call them by name and I wouldn't try to teach them unless I was sure they understood what the words meant first. Most of us know cats can understand a lot of what we say , but the point of these exercises is to make it a two way street. Consent is also key and I'd never pick my cat up as part of training.
@nomdeplume2213
@nomdeplume2213 2 жыл бұрын
ikr! hes a horrible trainer and then blames the animals... ugh... watch a service dog and tell me dogs cant communicate. they alert seizures, read crosswalk signs, read labels on foods, know when you need tissues etc etc etc my dog knows the difference between a diet dr pepper and a regular dr pepper, if i ask her to go get me a diet she comes back with a diet, she can also differentiate between regular water, flavored water and the exact flavoring by smell, if i ask for orange water she gets it, if i ask for cherry, she gets it. shes 3, ive been training her as a service dog since she was weeks old... She even knows sign language and knows more sign language than my 8 yr old haha This dude isn't a parent, has never raised a kid but thinks cats should learn exactly like a baby should and if they dont it means they cant use language? bullshit... of course Coco had to have an interpreter, not everyone knows sign language. does he thini deaf ppl cant use language because they need an interpreter?!? or if an English speaking person lives in China and needs an interpreter to speak to non English Chinese ppl that they dont know language or how to communicate?? his logic just makes absolutely no sense...
@malenaqueen7733
@malenaqueen7733 2 жыл бұрын
I am crying here that I lost so much of my time watching this video instead playing with my cat
@AD-jq7ow
@AD-jq7ow 3 жыл бұрын
You can watch Billi she's trained for months now.... And it seems like there's no difference between attention and pets. The best way is to press the button before you do the action so they can associate the sound with the appropriate action...making them learn one action at a time would take ages! Also a yes and a no button could reinforce whether you agree or not with the request they made by pressing a button...it's confusing for them if they press a button then there's no response from your part even a negative one it must be "vocalised" PS: The best thing for cats is to add a "mad" button😁
@britneyalyssa1314
@britneyalyssa1314 3 жыл бұрын
That cat is genius. Yes one at a time is the way to go.
@MmMm-sf7pe
@MmMm-sf7pe 2 жыл бұрын
Mad. Mad. Mad. Mad.
@clion4155
@clion4155 2 жыл бұрын
How do you train a car to press the mad button??
@BelindaShort
@BelindaShort 2 жыл бұрын
@@clion4155 my cats can open doors and turn on the tv so I think they can figure out a button
@user-gq4wt9xj6i
@user-gq4wt9xj6i 2 жыл бұрын
My cat was watching along with me and he quite positively interacted with the video. I trained him to speak every time i make a clicking noise, he somtimes clicks back. :3
@JenMarco
@JenMarco Жыл бұрын
My cat’s talk to each other. They meow back and forth like a whole conversation. It’s so cute. But none of my other cats I’ve had ever did that.
@prashank
@prashank 3 жыл бұрын
Loki is like a treat addict
@Mirokukeiiswatching
@Mirokukeiiswatching 3 жыл бұрын
Billiespeaks has a huge soundboard. She even combines words when she doesn't have the right one. She had a toy that's her favorite named bunny. She wanted to play but not with bunny but a beaver full of catnip. She didn't know the word for beaver so she named it catnip bunny
@gravity00x
@gravity00x 3 жыл бұрын
billie is the best example that proves this entire video wrong. not even speaking of the tereible training methods, false facts as well as the abysmal sample size of cats, everything about this video is just wrong imho. i hope nobody gets discouraged by this uninformed attempt to inform other people about what they "can't do"
@Cookiekeks
@Cookiekeks 2 жыл бұрын
Or... she just wanted catnip and bunny
@properburger7378
@properburger7378 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking exactly whay VIKIO said above. The projecting one is him. Before you train them you need to train yourself on how to effectively train them (one by one, the first being the most difficult); if he didnt notice the deminishing returns why he didnt adjust his method? I mean, thanks for the effort, I think Everyone appreciates it, but just cause you couldnt doesnt mean is not possible. Billiespeaks is the Perfect case to illustrate the potential in cats to learn actual language(altough basic but tasit).
@Jchathe
@Jchathe 2 жыл бұрын
@@gravity00x I totally agree with you.
@Jchathe
@Jchathe 2 жыл бұрын
@@violetviolet888 Thank you for the tip. I just went over there. What joy! I think cats truly WILL take over the world one day! :D
@KaileyAesthetic
@KaileyAesthetic Жыл бұрын
It was obviously flawed, but I love this guy for even trying to do this :3 how he interacts with them, I adore it! & you seriously did create a monster with Loki, I’m dying how treat-happy he gets pressing both buttons at the same time when he sees the treat coming xD! & I did notice him jumping up to you pretty much instantly when pressing cuddles, I think he had an idea on that one! Edit: But yeah, something like this requires a lot of patience & constancy ^^; over months- even years, but for the time you had- I think you did pretty well, for whatever that’s worth!(:
@fullmoonshadow6967
@fullmoonshadow6967 Жыл бұрын
I love how adorable this was. Someone else did it and ended with about 10-12 working buttons that their cat used including "later"
@a7c777
@a7c777 3 жыл бұрын
I think you rushed the experiment and rewarded inappropriate button cues
@carrieowen5895
@carrieowen5895 8 ай бұрын
I think you should one button at a time imho.. cant wait to try this
@kibrika
@kibrika 3 жыл бұрын
As to Bunny and her owner, she is clear about it being just another way to communicate with her pet, like teaching tricks and such. Besides it feels like she teaches one word (or a few) at a time, over a longer period of time modelling it. And she says she remains skeptical if she's reading into it, or if something's really there. And I think language is also a spectrum. So animals probably can't pick up on grammatical structures or something like that, but if they can learn meanings of a bunch of words, that's pretty cool too.
@supercheetah778
@supercheetah778 3 жыл бұрын
Billi's owner of BilliSpeaks says the same thing more or less, and is similarly skeptical of the meaning of their words.
@ThePallidor
@ThePallidor 3 жыл бұрын
Bunny uses grammar in how she chooses the order of words. I don't think her owner is consistent in her order though. Too much reliance on English, which has a more complex structure than would make sense. I would introduce grammar words like "to" and have her do tricks like "take ball to cushion" and then "take cushion to ball." That would silence those who say animals can't use grammar. (Dolphins can do exactly this)
@Sassy-qh5nh
@Sassy-qh5nh 2 жыл бұрын
My horse understands everything we say. I told a friend within her hearing that i needed to fix a low section in the fence and later that day she went over it . I probably pointed at the spot, but still, she hadn't noticed it before. I watch what i say around her, now. She was fine, didnt go far, just eating grass next door. Lol. and got out
@SeeMeRolling
@SeeMeRolling Жыл бұрын
This is so cute to watch! I love how they end up asking for snuggles, pets and attention a lot 🥺
@missoverlord7056
@missoverlord7056 Жыл бұрын
I’m just so focused on how good that breakfast bagel looked.
@averynelson1186
@averynelson1186 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great guide on what NOT to do 🤣
@boyfriendfnf2726
@boyfriendfnf2726 Жыл бұрын
Wdym
@Ryrynz2000
@Ryrynz2000 Жыл бұрын
@@boyfriendfnf2726 Not properly associating the action of pushing the button to it's meaning and introducing new words too quickly..
@amethystcrystal5799
@amethystcrystal5799 Жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
@aspendespain4606
@aspendespain4606 3 жыл бұрын
There's also Billi the cat that pushes buttons.
@akaMyThought
@akaMyThought 3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@cici3147
@cici3147 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Billi seems very aware of her button pressing!
@kisnpisn4919
@kisnpisn4919 3 жыл бұрын
billi can get mad too ;)
@cerhn
@cerhn Жыл бұрын
Literally, Loki's doing what babies do. Babbling. Testing what happens
@breadshovel
@breadshovel Жыл бұрын
The buttons sound eerily similar to the monkey from cloudy with a chance of meatballs
@ThymeHog
@ThymeHog 3 жыл бұрын
From the cat's perspective, what's the difference between the "pets" vs "attention me" buttons? Are these redundant, and perhaps confusing?
@christinacody5845
@christinacody5845 3 жыл бұрын
That was my thought, too.
@isiriscasiano3719
@isiriscasiano3719 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. Those buttons were too close together. No wonder Loki kept pressing other buttons when he just wanted a treat.
@adventuresinportland3032
@adventuresinportland3032 2 жыл бұрын
@@isiriscasiano3719 Same
@poetrybird1st
@poetrybird1st 2 жыл бұрын
In Billi Speaks she has Come. Look hello. Attention me is uselrss
@milmil5350
@milmil5350 3 жыл бұрын
⚠ "yes/no" buttons seem kinda useless at this point because they don't understand the idea behind the words yet ("accept/reject"). I think for now, you'll find more use out of verb/action words. Also I think you shot yourself in the foot by rewarding every button press with snacks. It'll confuse them by making them think it's the button giving the snack rather than the sound of the specific word being spoken. Another thing is that I think you're teaching too much at once. Go one or two words at a time. And once it's learned, you can add more. Teaching technique matters. One last thing is to be humble. They're not brain dead, just slow. If you're patient and use the right methods, they'll learn it the same way dogs learn commands such as sit and play dead. Remember: they need to learn the sound of the word. That's key.
@estefanani
@estefanani 3 жыл бұрын
right, this guy is basing the cats ability to learn on his really crappy teaching skills and since he's the one that can speak, he's the only one that's correct apparently.
@lillycali7287
@lillycali7287 3 жыл бұрын
Start with 2 to 4 buttons first, then add gradually.
@isiriscasiano3719
@isiriscasiano3719 2 жыл бұрын
I would suggest putting the buttons on a thinner board or fabric so it's not as high up & would be easier for the cats to press down on the buttons. Start with 1 button. When that word is mastered, add another & so on. Don't confuse them with so many buttons & words.
@JessieMassoudi
@JessieMassoudi 2 жыл бұрын
My cat Roscoe memorizes WHERE the buttons are, rather than "reading" them. If I were to move them around I think it would really confuse him. He LOVES having the buttons though. Uses them all the time (drives me crazy with them lol).
@love.wildly.live.fearlessly
@love.wildly.live.fearlessly Жыл бұрын
Our dog lost her play and walk button cause play was pressed like 20 times to the point it didn’t finish saying the word play it just said pla-pla-pl-p-p-pla-play-pl-pla-p-p-p-play 😂
@Twiphed
@Twiphed Жыл бұрын
@@love.wildly.live.fearlessly 🤣
@Jack-fh3wm
@Jack-fh3wm 2 жыл бұрын
this video is so professional i thought it was an ad when it cut to a different thing
@JackiJinx
@JackiJinx 3 жыл бұрын
I do hope you attempt this again in a more controlled manner like I'm seeing others suggest with one button at a time. It's definitely possible, just not nearly as sensational since it takes time for them to normalize it.
@averynelson1186
@averynelson1186 2 жыл бұрын
You've also ignored instances where Bunny communicated something concrete without prompting. For example, she pressed, "Ouch nose," they took her to the vet, she had a scratch on her nose - deep enough to hurt, shallow enough to be unnoticed by her people.
@starwarsballerina
@starwarsballerina 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Bunny also had a paw ouch and an ear ouch as well. Lexi the dog has also tried communicating ouch to her mom when she was coming down with pancreatitis, was initially misunderstood but then ended up at the vets with serious illness. This is why his conclusion at the end is blatantly ignorant and I had to stop the video when he started negating their understanding of language. I just hope that people don't get discouraged by it, because as a vet I can't think of anything better than owners telling me that their pet told them that they had an ouch!
@averynelson1186
@averynelson1186 2 жыл бұрын
@@starwarsballerina 🥰
@veritydoyle7886
@veritydoyle7886 2 жыл бұрын
I love that the second Loki realises the button gives him a treat he's just spamming it 😂
@Sojourner-Life
@Sojourner-Life 2 жыл бұрын
The intro is a masterpiece of writing and editing. You've earned a subscriber in the first 2 minutes. Cheers.
@britneyalyssa1314
@britneyalyssa1314 3 жыл бұрын
You need to do one at a time and don’t start with a treat button or they miss the bigger picture. Try play as a reward or outside if they like that. Your cats are eager to learn. Lessen the confusion for them. Make it a bonding experience.
@Fregmazors
@Fregmazors 3 жыл бұрын
You put a lot of work into this, and your patience is impressive, but the data you've collected doesn't support your point. trying to teach a cat a single experiment doesn't refute the potential for primates to use basic signs to communicate. It's like saying, "I tried to teach my aunt to play World of Warcraft, and she couldn't figure it out. Therefore, women can't play video games." Don't get me wrong, it was an interesting experiment, but two cats failing to associate eight nearly identical buttons with specific actions doesn't prove that primates can't use basic sign language to communicate ideas. If you want to make the point that primates can't understand or use any language, then make a video specifically about that. Show footage of Koko and where her signs don't represent actual ideas -- that would be more convincing, and I'd watch it.
@gravity00x
@gravity00x 3 жыл бұрын
a frikkin men
@rhiannonstrickland8943
@rhiannonstrickland8943 2 жыл бұрын
Another problem is that he used some bad tactics in teaching these cats. The best button to start with is "outside" not "treat" because of the spamming issue. Also you are not supposed to rush them or put their paws on the button. If he wanted to take a better approach, Bunny's owner gives lots of tips.
@AmyAndThePup
@AmyAndThePup 2 жыл бұрын
Well said. Thank you.
@patriciagriffin1505
@patriciagriffin1505 2 жыл бұрын
If any of you doubt cats ability to communicate watch Billi speaks on You Tube it’s impressive
@rockjockchick
@rockjockchick 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@terrigomez6496
@terrigomez6496 2 жыл бұрын
Omg the way Bill grabs your hand to get eggs is too cute.
@fjolliff6308
@fjolliff6308 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for being so honest about this. Not many are willing to admit that things don't work out as expected.
@hailieasdfjkl
@hailieasdfjkl Жыл бұрын
I mean it helps to put even a minimal amount of research into something before trying it but yeah
@FFANGEDD
@FFANGEDD 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't get it because you didn't do any of this right, other comments explain it better but people are gonna turn a blind eye and assume cats just can't do this and that the other ones are a hoax.
@elfinvale
@elfinvale 3 жыл бұрын
Did you do any research on teaching your kitties to speak before starting the video? because it really doesn't look like you did. it's kinda like you wanted to hop on the bandwagon and don't actually care about the science? Hell, just from Bunny's channel, you should know that a) assigning a deadline is completely unhelpful, because non-human animals process language differently, and b) you have to carefully model each word, without contradiction. You set yourself up for failure here, dude.
@zvisger
@zvisger 2 жыл бұрын
Bill is adorable. He seems so grumpy lol. Just like me
@bringbacknormal416
@bringbacknormal416 2 жыл бұрын
Lol idk if you have seen these new training videos where they show you how to train the cat on how to press the button (which is probably the longest part of the whole training process) . Then you have to place the buttons around the house for whatever their uses are for. Finally you bring all the buttons together on the board in sections where they closely relate so the cat and distinguish the categories much easier.
@sooyoungfanclub
@sooyoungfanclub 3 жыл бұрын
tr-t-t-tr-tr-t-treat
@aqema
@aqema 2 жыл бұрын
advice to future cat trainers: start with only the treats button, and then, when the animal has learned it's meaning, add other buttons, but don't keep the treat jar in hand, because the cat will do anything, press any buttons, to get the food and it will not learn anything that way.
@hailieasdfjkl
@hailieasdfjkl Жыл бұрын
Most of what I've seen has recommended against using a "treat" or "food" button
@blackshaddow5005
@blackshaddow5005 2 жыл бұрын
At the end of day one, your cat trained you to push buttons quite well
@jayrap94
@jayrap94 Жыл бұрын
They say our school days are the best times of our lives - and how true is that - so many treats!
@fa1ruz
@fa1ruz 3 жыл бұрын
I think Bunny and Billyspeak do try to build sentences with the limitation of their understanding and the small sample buttons hences their human mom fills in the gaps. They've only started pushing buttons for few months. That is impresive! Also this practise is for human to understand animal better because humans are incapable to understand animals in their ways of connecting. I also believes the people who trained their pets to push buttons advised to start with one button.
@allipropsolutions825
@allipropsolutions825 2 жыл бұрын
Agree w/ one button at a time idea. Also, try using different shapes as labels since the text labels probably all look similar to the cats. Good luck!
@Cashcorn
@Cashcorn Жыл бұрын
Yeah this guy did not have much patience
@johnnybird5466
@johnnybird5466 Жыл бұрын
Ya billi speaks has pictures on the buttons
@tinamortensen1220
@tinamortensen1220 8 ай бұрын
I think the labels were for the humans. Billi is the cat program to follow, her mom is a vet. I don't know when this was filmed but doing research for this should have included others who have done this before you.
@blessingsofparadise4439
@blessingsofparadise4439 Жыл бұрын
20:12 I beg to differ. He understands "play." His eyes light up, veering off to his left, anxious to play, 🤣😻😸LOL.
@blessingsofparadise4439
@blessingsofparadise4439 Жыл бұрын
I meant 29:12, thank you.
@slightlyOnion
@slightlyOnion Жыл бұрын
21:00 the way loki presses the buttons frantically, makes it seem like loki a desperate treat addict, willing to do anything for a fix xD
@kevingrabowski6010
@kevingrabowski6010 3 жыл бұрын
Bunny can chain words together to create new meanings that are clever. She understands past and future. They’re just worse at it than we are. Language and communication are the same thing.
@kellyalves756
@kellyalves756 2 жыл бұрын
Bunny I think has acquired some vocabulary. That doesn’t mean there’s not some guesswork/ projection at play.
@TaradaPryoNINJA
@TaradaPryoNINJA 2 жыл бұрын
@@kellyalves756 I'd be more surprised if there wasn't any guesswork! Bunny has to communicate ideas with a very limited vocabulary, and her owner has to do the same in order for Bunny to understand. For instance, Bunny and her owner recently discussed dreams and Bunny called them "night talks".
@lowmax4431
@lowmax4431 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but I watched bunny and it appear she is pressing buttons randomly.
@warriorcatkitty
@warriorcatkitty 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah- I thought it was really bizarre that he said language and communication weren't the same... They literally are. Language IS communication.
@floofybunnyz
@floofybunnyz 3 жыл бұрын
I think attention me might be too similar to pet and snuggle since there isn't any clear action for attention.
@sarahloomis2034
@sarahloomis2034 3 жыл бұрын
The cats did seem to enjoy the chin scritches in response to the attention button. Maybe replace it with that?
@Dragonfly5455
@Dragonfly5455 2 жыл бұрын
Your experiment was a success. You have proven that cats want everything, all the time. Enjoyed your efforts
@frankhaugen
@frankhaugen Жыл бұрын
Our cats trained us more than we trained them. Even a kitten we found outside (born in a barn from ferals) got the concept of the litterbox instantly. We now give the cats treats at their prompts
@Kenkire
@Kenkire 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen Billi the cat? She uses those.
@domcoke
@domcoke 3 жыл бұрын
And it's as meaningless
@gravity00x
@gravity00x 3 жыл бұрын
@@domcoke a cat expressing how she doesnt like the music being played with buttons like "noise" and "ouch" proves you wrong in an instant. now get out
@domcoke
@domcoke 3 жыл бұрын
@@gravity00x Tell me...: how did the owner convey the meaning of these buttons to the cat?
@Wylie288
@Wylie288 2 жыл бұрын
@@domcoke She has a video that explains it. Watch the overview video from a month ago. I was skeptical until I understood what she intends to words to mean. They are absolutely used
@domcoke
@domcoke 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wylie288 Nah, total bullshit. Wooly unscientific claptrap. There is no scientific basis for this "experiment". Get a grip
@travelwell6049
@travelwell6049 3 жыл бұрын
They _say_ that cats only meow to humans and not each other, but if you live in a multi-cat household, surely you know that's not true.
@ne0ns0wl46
@ne0ns0wl46 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, i don't know why this misunderstanding still holds up, but even wild cats do communicate verbally with meows and growls. They do it more often with humans because we as humans to communicate mostly verbally and so cats do adapt to this verbal affinity.
@charlottesghost2845
@charlottesghost2845 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU. I get so tired of hearing that in every cat vid.
@doctorbobstone
@doctorbobstone 2 жыл бұрын
As I understood the claim, the sounds cats make with humans are the ones more typically made by kittens to their mothers. Cats which were not raised with humans apparently generally stop making those noises very often as they mature. So, the claim (again, as I understand it) is not exactly that they don't make those sounds at all, just that being around humans trains them to use sounds not very commonly used by adult cats not raised with humans. Most (but not all) cats I've known meow at humans for food. I don't think I remember seeing a cat use that type of meow with another cat (well except for kittens to their mothers). If that's not your experience, I'd be curious what your cats seem to want if they are meowing at another cat like that.
@vincenttrigg4521
@vincenttrigg4521 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, normally when it's just two cats they're pretty in sync with eachother as it's just the two of them. Like they will sometimes meow at eachother but it's more common with each additional cat
@nomdeplume2213
@nomdeplume2213 2 жыл бұрын
yep, thats like saying wolves ONLY howl at the moon... bullshit... he must not have heard cats mating because if so hed know how vocal they are to eachother haha if cats didnt need to communicate they wouldnt have the ability to meow at all, theyd be like snails or goldfish and not have vocal chords.
@secretwatcher9922
@secretwatcher9922 2 жыл бұрын
This guy has the patients of a saint plus I like him as his honest.
@asummers0984
@asummers0984 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh man!!! Laughed til I cried 😂😂😂. Loki was getting the shock of his life every time he reached for a button 😂 😂😂. Bill really did catch on quickly though. Great content.my fave Vid of the day 😁😁😁
@WordFyle
@WordFyle 3 жыл бұрын
personally, I think bill learned the best, he actually seemed to know not every button was treats
@wiblet
@wiblet 3 жыл бұрын
And yet animals can firmly grasp the basics when we talk to them. I'm yet to see a cat/dog that didn't put words and body language and context together to understand if it's treats time or getting scolded for eating plastic time. Maybe it's just okay if they can't communicate on our terms... not being anthropomorphic doesn't make their inner workings any less profound.
@patiencevitacco373
@patiencevitacco373 Жыл бұрын
Loki clearly has two favorites. Treats. Snuggles.
@lieslwright70
@lieslwright70 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you explained linguistics beyond Skinner in the end. Because I was gonna give you a piece of my mind. Your cats are super cute and the video was fun! You should have added one button at a time.
@IceCrossFire
@IceCrossFire 3 жыл бұрын
It works by saying the word while doing the action. In addition, teaching them to say it rather than "do it to say it" (which uses not one, but two parts of the brain -- physical communication and verbal understanding, thus working their brains harder). Cats are vocal. They can make 100+ sounds. My current cat understands more words than she can say, but the coolest thing is I started teaching her short, simple sentences less than 6 months ago, and she's doing it!
@mycatscantalk
@mycatscantalk 2 жыл бұрын
And pressing the buttons to model the behavior. He did no modeling at all.
@LustStarrr
@LustStarrr 3 жыл бұрын
In addition to Bunny the Dog, check out Hunger for Words - Christine Hunger is a speech therapist who initially began this whole trend with her dog, I think... Billi Speaks was the first cat I saw learning to speak with buttons, & I believe someone has just begun teaching their pigeon, too - yay!
@remusgrrrl
@remusgrrrl 2 жыл бұрын
Then there is the whole experiment with the African Grey Parrot, Alex. Part of a 30 year study and he could communicate quite well with language. Just because an animal doesn't use language the way humans do, doesn't mean they aren't using language at all. I think that is where his hubris lies. He thinks that they have to use language the way WE do, as if we are the end all, be all that all species must try to attain, which is very ridiculous.
@karennewton9903
@karennewton9903 Жыл бұрын
Cats communicate visually, through body language. Cats learning our language has happened, their response is the "meow".
@RipVanWinkle_Nature_Discovery
@RipVanWinkle_Nature_Discovery Жыл бұрын
I run an animal shelter. I think it's amazing that you documented this. I've seen other videos of cats pressing buttons to get rewards but haven't seen how it's done. I train my dogs here. Now that your cats have learned that pressing the button gives a reward, change the layout to only one button and do a different button at a time. (Maybe leave the treat button for last) They need to associate the sound and the color to the specific reward. Nice work!
@AAAReview
@AAAReview 3 жыл бұрын
Pets can communicate. Can they "talk" to us or have a conversation with us? Probably not. But they can communicate.
@MyButtercup
@MyButtercup 2 жыл бұрын
Often it just a look and it is clear what is wanted.
@MrOoof
@MrOoof 2 жыл бұрын
check out a yt channel called billispeakers The cat can express emotions like "mad" "love you" and more
@catalot
@catalot 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to say that I have great affection for Koko the gorilla and am convinced she understood very well what she communicated and what was being communicated to her. I think it can be hard for humans to admit another creature has greater intelligence than they had believed. :)
@NefariousSpineLizard
@NefariousSpineLizard Жыл бұрын
She very much does not, that experiment was a scam and frankly, absurd and cruel.
@rebekahmikaelson1198
@rebekahmikaelson1198 Жыл бұрын
i think it can be hard for humans to admit other creatures are fundamentally different from them, and they show their intelligence in different ways. we give more importance to the 'human-like' kind of intelligence bc of our own biases. but its not an objective metric and it can downplay the different sorts of skills and smartness-es that animals have.
@DonaldKronos
@DonaldKronos Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Sadly Koko had a very few people to learn from or practice language skills with, and most people don't understand what a detriment that is to the ability to learn to use a language. I have studied many languages in my lifetime, but I've had almost no opportunity to practice most of them. I speak the Spanish language as if I had learned it as a first language, but in fact I learned it as an adult. The difference is I have have held many conversations in the language and have practiced it quite substantially. By contrast, I'm sure I have learned quite a bit more Esperanto than Spanish, but have had very little opportunity to practice and as a result have nowhere near the same level of fluency nor anywhere near the same ability to think of what words I need in that language to say what I would like to say, even though the Esperanto language is objectively actually quite a bit easier than either Spanish or English, for example having absolutely no irregular verbs, and a fanatic spelling system even more consistent than any dialect of Spanish I've come across. With even the most phonetically inconsistent dialects of Spanish I've encountered being far more consistent than any dialect of English I have encountered. Imagine if the dialect of sign language spoken by Koko were to be taught as a general language learning class to hundreds or thousands or even millions of children, and those children were to practice that language with each other enough to grow up fluent in it. Then imagine teaching another gorilla, or better yet a diverse group of non-human great apes, that same sign language variant, at a facility in an area where pretty much everyone could communicate in that language. For various reasons I would not expect to see adult human level intelligence, but I wouldn't consider it a complete impossibility and I expect most humans would be quite surprised to find just how intelligent non-human apes can actually be and how much we humans could learn from the alternative ways of looking at things that those apes with thier non-human brains would be likely to have at their disposal.
@thesoliloquist1940
@thesoliloquist1940 Жыл бұрын
In the prelude of this video, the guy uses koko as credible evidence that it is possible to teach sophisticated communication to another species.. Yet by the end, when he openly admitted his exasperation with the cats, he then goes back and attempts to explain that koko was qued to create hand signs by the trainer.. Can't help but notice a pattern in his outlook towards evidence and that there is a correspondence between his feelings/beliefs and his opinion of the same example.. isn't that the definition of confirmation bias? It's a lot more likely that he had done an ineffectual job at teaching language.. It's sus to me that he didn't ever once consider that a possibility as to the failure.. We saw his process of creating the button pad.. He was entirely uncertain of his construction of the communication device.. Yet, it doesn't occur to him to modify or readjust so as to gain some difference in results.. Doing something the same way over and over expecting different results is the definition of insanity.. This vid was incredibly unscientific, yet he has the presumption to even insinuate that his findings could rival let alone invalidate koko's training.. ludicrous.. The animals are able to recreate the same button pushing patterns (see mila, the talking dog).. Once this is achieved, idk how there could be room for doubt in that animals are able to consistently form associations to utterances..
@Nikuthebigboss
@Nikuthebigboss Жыл бұрын
What he also absolutely ignored was the psychological help the mentioned people got involved to make sure their pets/ Koko understand the word in a concept and not just by sound, like he tried to train them. If you can even call that training, trainwreck, I think is more fitting.
@StormyHotwolf88
@StormyHotwolf88 Жыл бұрын
It was really cool to see you open it up and tune it. I had no idea you could tune an instrument like this!
@jasperrutherford2327
@jasperrutherford2327 2 жыл бұрын
My cat as a kid used to meow in different sounds like mum, nan and jaz. it was a Joke at first but then it was obvious to tell who he was talking too 😂
@quantquill
@quantquill 3 жыл бұрын
Given how much time we've spent at home the last year, we've grown a lot closer to our cats. (It was that, or annoy them until they killed us and ate the carcasses.) We decided why not see how much we can engage them and train them? They've been eager to solve problems and to play with us. We had already taught the cats high five when they were kittens, and a few months back (they were a little over a year old) I decided to see if I could clicker train them. I tried following the advice to teach them one command, make sure they had it down, then move on to the next. Took them two sessions to understand click = treat, and they got quickly bored if I only taught one command at a time. They learned up, down, over, circle, here, and sit with clicker, gesture, and voice command in 3 or 4 days. I ran out of oomph to figure out more commands to teach them at that point, so that's where we've stayed. One cat is highly treat motivated. He watches me like a hawk when I get out the treats and tries to anticipate what command I'm going to give so he can get the treat faster. He's amenable to any training I've come up with, as long as there's a treat involved. Sort of like the Energizer Bunny Rabbit. The other is more, "Meh, maybe I'll do it if I feel like it." Very much believes in conservation of energy. If it requires energy, it's too much effort.
@AlexisOmnis
@AlexisOmnis 3 жыл бұрын
I think you need to bring one button in at a time
@alysgrant6732
@alysgrant6732 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience with the process.
@tam.s..9131
@tam.s..9131 2 жыл бұрын
This breed is the must talkative I had one for 11 years..my was talking with out button's..
@maeuschen22
@maeuschen22 3 жыл бұрын
Billiespeaks and catmanjohn are doing well with these buttons, Billie has something like 30 to 40 words! Russ has at least 15 words and both cats have started combining two or more words together
@gravity00x
@gravity00x 3 жыл бұрын
bilie is the perfect example why he is wrong with his conclusion. billies owner does fill in the blanks sometimes, but other times its bloody obvious that bilie is using language. what comes to mind is that episode where billie tells her owner that the music which she describes as "noise" is "ouch". she doesnt like the music thats being listened to. that clearly is using syntax and proving she is capable of using language to express herself
@ne0ns0wl46
@ne0ns0wl46 2 жыл бұрын
@@gravity00x Exactly, i don't know why he can draw such a conclusion after not even a month of work. For Billie it took at least one month to intentionally push one button and understanding the meaning of it. Bunny the Dog is also an good example, the owner has a tutorial where she explained how to get started with the buttons. And Neuro did most of the mistakes, he shouldn't have done. Also on the point of "filling the gaps" why is this wrong? We also fill the gaps while communicating the toddlers, kids, and even grown ups. If some can't find the right words to express their thoughts, the other person tends to fill in the gap. It's a process similar to translating.
@seanchen9771
@seanchen9771 2 жыл бұрын
@@ne0ns0wl46 He is projecting that's why as soon as he sees the result needed for him to prove his point he made the conclusion.
@Benisued
@Benisued 3 жыл бұрын
I think it could be more effective to install the buttons one by one
@jasonscott7077
@jasonscott7077 Жыл бұрын
Soon as he stood there pressing it realizing the cause and effect was like damn! :D
@DiscoveryWonders
@DiscoveryWonders 2 жыл бұрын
Bill got it very fast from watching Loki. Cool!
@Jethorus
@Jethorus 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone says cats don’t meow at each other. This is a lie. My cats literally only meow at each other to come into the other room with them.
@gravity00x
@gravity00x 3 жыл бұрын
for someone who makes himself look so smart, this guy absolutely isnt, in this videos case. he spews half truths or fiction as facts without anything to back it up. his training methods are horribly useless at the least and the conclusion is based on his dysfunctioning method combined with a sample pool of 2. just him watching bilie speaks would prove him wrong immediately.
@Aqib2
@Aqib2 2 жыл бұрын
@@gravity00x Atleast he tried
@Aqib2
@Aqib2 2 жыл бұрын
Cats don't normally meow at each other.
@kellyalves756
@kellyalves756 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aqib2 Bingo. They don’t need to. They talk with bumps, scents, posture, etc. If the occasional cat gets the idea to echolocate his friend, that is cool, but it doesn’t change average cat behavior expectations. My cat full on played catch with me( her idea) but based on ordinary cat behavior I think anyone trying to TEACH a cat to play catch would be facing enormous frustration. My cat stopped meowing much at all when my ex left. It bothered me until I read the facts about cat meowing being something reserved for humans, and I realized her shift to quiet, non vocal ways of communication was a sign that she trusted I had a brain in my head, and thus was a compliment.
@charlottesghost2845
@charlottesghost2845 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU.
@CemeteryCrybaby
@CemeteryCrybaby 2 жыл бұрын
When he started to talk about Koko, I almost cried because she loved Robin Williams and was so heartbroken when he passed 😭💔I know we all were, but if even a gorilla is sad that he died, that really means something.
@DiscoveryWonders
@DiscoveryWonders 2 жыл бұрын
brushy is a good word and then you brush your cat with that detangler brush its like a heavenly massage....
@Fear.not.4.Ive.redeemedU43
@Fear.not.4.Ive.redeemedU43 2 жыл бұрын
Watching with my cat as soon as you said treat she left the room and went to room with treats lol
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