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If there was no Russia, you would have to invent it, even just for the US to try to destroy it. There is something deeply rooted in neocons that makes them crave for a good enemy, preferably someone to demonise as a primordial evil that fits into their manichean world view.
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Anatol Lieven is Director of the Eurasia Program at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft. He was formerly a professor at Georgetown University in Qatar and in the War Studies Department of King’s College London.
Last week he published a wonderful article with the title “Sarkozy vilified for speaking uncomfortable truths about Ukraine” in which he argues that our beloved mass media is ignoring what sarkozy said and instead just condemms him for saying the obvious.
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Thank you for Watching, Neocon Hate For Russia Makes A European Settlement With Moscow Impossible Dr. Anatol Lieven (1/2)
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@humwawa3468
@humwawa3468 11 ай бұрын
If you reject the referendums on the ground that some people may not have been able to vote due to the state of the war, then you ought to reject the elections after the 2014 coup in Kyiv on the same ground. Post 2014 elections gave an unfair advantage to Ukrainian nationalists in the West.
@arnsteinholm7372
@arnsteinholm7372 11 ай бұрын
Russian people are wonderful people
@helmski
@helmski 11 ай бұрын
Agreed, they find themselves in a horrendous political situation of their own making. They are in some part responsible for supporting the man who felt compelled to create this disaster.
@nicolarobinson3140
@nicolarobinson3140 11 ай бұрын
@@helmskiand that just reveals your ignorance and personal bias!!! This mess started in 2014 (with the roots going much further back) with the coup and the insidious meddling and agenda of the West!! Despite a peace agreement aka the Minsk accords being established, the brutal attacks on the ethnic Russian civilians of the Donbas by the far right Ukrainian regime, not only continued but escalated!! Putin both refused requests to take back the territory of the Donbas, and to green light Russian military intervention ( being highly criticised for waiting 8 years to do so and being too trusting and moderate on the issue) Far from starting it, Putin committed himself to pursuing and honouring diplomatic efforts to resolve the conflict, when every other side were either violating terms or working in bad faith!! It would seem you are similarly as inflicted as the Neo cons, and have sadly fallen hook line and sinker for their perverse and egregious propaganda !!👎🏻
@tjitjo
@tjitjo 11 ай бұрын
@@helmski Russians support the american deep state, military contractors and the WEF?
@MuantanamoMobile
@MuantanamoMobile 11 ай бұрын
@@helmski So much copium...one could build a orbital habitation ring.... *in kerbal space
@Magnetroman
@Magnetroman 11 ай бұрын
So why does Putin want to exterminate all russians? He forces russians to go to the front and shoot at them when they don't want to advance. More russian soldires in Novoprokopivka now die by russians shooting them than by ukrainian fire.
@Roland_Deschain
@Roland_Deschain 11 ай бұрын
Anything that neocons doesn't hate except themselves?
@cyberspore00
@cyberspore00 11 ай бұрын
The Neocons hate themselves. They project that self-hatred on almost everyone else.
@des_smith7658
@des_smith7658 11 ай бұрын
I'm sick of all this childish behaviour by adults
@jasonmudgarde286
@jasonmudgarde286 11 ай бұрын
The only thing they don't hate apart from themselves has to be endless war!
@johnsmith1474
@johnsmith1474 11 ай бұрын
I think in fact they hate themselves too.
@constantquestioning4010
@constantquestioning4010 11 ай бұрын
👌
@christophershrimpton7627
@christophershrimpton7627 11 ай бұрын
In a program put out by the BBC a couple of years ago, Dick Cheney recounted the events on the day of the attack on the World Trade Center. The administration were concerned by the possible reaction from, as he put it, “the Soviets” if they mobilised the US military. I think it was Condi Rice who obtained assurance from Putin that the Russians would not see this as a threat and was initially very cooperative over the “war on terror “. The fact that Cheney was still talking about the “Soviets” like that 30 years after the collapse of the Soviet Union illustrates the mindset of these people.
@jasonmudgarde286
@jasonmudgarde286 11 ай бұрын
Back in the early 2000s Russia also saw many Islamist terror attacks, killing several hundreds. Putin often asked about a common European Security Framework, even joining NATO. The simple fact is that NATO needs a common enemy to promote arms sales.
@mysticone1798
@mysticone1798 11 ай бұрын
Excellent point. The Cold War against Russia didn't end when the USSR fell. Why? Because Putin was elected and he prevented the West from unleashing Liberalism, the Banksters, and the Corporate Profiteers on his nation, as they had done to exploit so many other nations before Russia. THAT is why Putin is so hated!!! He saved Russia, in no uncertain terms.
@user-wt8ee3st6y
@user-wt8ee3st6y 11 ай бұрын
Just goes to show you the kind of morons cheyney and his kind are these people are on both sides of the atlantic, are we ever going to be free of them.
@neovxr
@neovxr 11 ай бұрын
Cheney is a Neocon and these people were traitors from day one, not even Americans in their hearts, but entirely obsessed with Eastern Europe, and with becoming the overlords of globalism.
@constantquestioning4010
@constantquestioning4010 11 ай бұрын
The usual insular toxic genocidal US neocon regime mix of « ignorance and arrogance »
@christianefiorito3204
@christianefiorito3204 11 ай бұрын
That is the big difference between the US and Europe. Europeans might not be happy with Putins policy. But apart from some ex Sowiet states most people feel Russia very much a part of Europe, through its culture, music, bsllet, literature etc. Russian people are never the enemy.
@desarc6855
@desarc6855 11 ай бұрын
Really? I've seen too many europeans (and not ex soviet ones) denying Russia as a part of Europe long before this war. Culture? Lol, an average european do not think we have one.
@neovxr
@neovxr 11 ай бұрын
But Russia has left the chat, and guess what, in the Asian and African chats, Russians represent the good side and interesting sides of Europe, which is classical culture and art, literature, and eventually, non-Constantinian Christianity.
@giselameunier4788
@giselameunier4788 11 ай бұрын
Europe is rouled by USA and it follows USA orders against russia
@dnickaroo3574
@dnickaroo3574 11 ай бұрын
The US destroyed NordStream Pipeline which has driven Russia even closer to China and Asia. The US sees this as an extension of the Cold War against Russia-China. The US has made the opinion of Europe irrelevant.
@MrSlavikman
@MrSlavikman 9 ай бұрын
@@ziggys. Yeah, we made many mistakes with Poland...like not crushing you when you became Hitler's first allie and then got a chunk of Czechoslovakia for it. Or that most of the civilian labour in the death camps were Poles. Our biggest mistakes was not stopping on the vestula and going around from the South. Should have left you ingrateful bas to the Germans to finish off. They were quite pissed at how you betrayed them. 60.000 Poles served in the Wehrmacht. Most died. We should have left you to the Germans, no one would have any problems with you Poles now.
@joaomartins7413
@joaomartins7413 11 ай бұрын
Mr. Anatole Lieven seems not to have understood that the territories integrated into the Russian Federation are now constitutionally part of the Russian Federation. And that the terms of possible negotiations will be dictated by Russia. Russia has sacrificed tens of thousands of soldiers and as victory, it is not Western governments who will dictate the terms of a negotiation. This time has long passed.
@noggogo6932
@noggogo6932 8 күн бұрын
This is a gambit to put Russia in the spot politically, daring them to refuse referenda to avoid recognizing the new territories.. Meanwhile the regular elections in Ukraine have been cancelled, and that's fine.
@robertkelly-jh9zu
@robertkelly-jh9zu 11 ай бұрын
The Russians saved Europe in WW two but this is now forgotten as the saying goes them that forget the past are destined to relive it
@alexmashkin863
@alexmashkin863 3 ай бұрын
Oh, no, it's not forgotten and they'll never forgive us for defeating their beloved n@#$m
@user-wj6dt5bq3w
@user-wj6dt5bq3w 2 ай бұрын
Saved Europe? With mass assaults, robbery, and countless murders of civilians?
@des_smith7658
@des_smith7658 11 ай бұрын
The old world order is changing, some don't like that.
@joaomartins7413
@joaomartins7413 11 ай бұрын
The problem with these academicians is that they do not listen and take seriously what the Russian government has been saying and repeating for years and even decades.
@giselameunier4788
@giselameunier4788 11 ай бұрын
correct
@vaska1999
@vaska1999 11 ай бұрын
The problem is their arrogance combined with a genuine depth of ignorance (our academe is in a mess).
@noggogo6932
@noggogo6932 8 күн бұрын
Even these men are limited in what their ideology (and maybe self-interest) allows them to take on board and develop.
@novorossian2279
@novorossian2279 11 ай бұрын
Russia was vitally interested in talks with all parties both before and during the special military operation. It is not Russia that is unwilling to negotiate. It has been all other parties.
@Ofelas1
@Ofelas1 11 ай бұрын
Europe, will be destroyed due to the repercussions of this war. The economy and societies, not a physical war. The Neocons are well aware of the likelihood, and so is the WEF, which spoke out early for a war, of European demise. US sees itself as the beneficiary of a European demise, getting industry, talent, and money.
@des_smith7658
@des_smith7658 11 ай бұрын
Russia doesn't take orders
@mysticone1798
@mysticone1798 11 ай бұрын
That's quite true, although Putin has since stated that he requires a "signal" from the West that they are willing to negotiate on realistic terms, before sitting down with them. By which he means the new reality of the annexed territories now belonging to Russia.
@dinnerwithfranklin2451
@dinnerwithfranklin2451 11 ай бұрын
@@mysticone1798 Oh cool! Has the President confided in you for a long time or have you just met recently?
@MrSlavikman
@MrSlavikman 9 ай бұрын
Except that it is obvious to most in Russia that there is no one to negotiate with in that pile putrid swamp called the West.
@novorossian2279
@novorossian2279 11 ай бұрын
The people that Dr. Lieven talked to would have been all too aware that they would be marked men and women if they spoke of any positive attitude toward Russia.
@neovxr
@neovxr 11 ай бұрын
But by whom? We must call out the war hawks that are indeed going to bring Apocalypse, unless they get stopped by all means.
@greentea0302
@greentea0302 2 ай бұрын
@@neovxr the deep state? davos people, wef guys, globalists..
@ad5792
@ad5792 11 ай бұрын
You are assuming that Ukraine and its people have some degree of agency. It doesn't, everything has been decided somewhere else and you probably know were.
@eliasestrada8050
@eliasestrada8050 11 ай бұрын
Share and spread this video on all social media 🙏 Russian people are wonderful.. a country with a lot of culture and places to visit and the most beautiful women in the world to say the least ❤ Go Russia 💪
@greenlight4412
@greenlight4412 11 ай бұрын
One reason could be the action movies where all movies like Mission Impossible have a Russian/East European or South European villain. They usually have a villain with an accent.
@andrekeefer2034
@andrekeefer2034 11 ай бұрын
The Russophobia was started by England during the Crimean War and the Russian-Turkish war of 1875-1878.
@gmw3083
@gmw3083 11 ай бұрын
The west won that Crimean war. They're losing this one badly....
@noggogo6932
@noggogo6932 8 күн бұрын
It's no Anglos or Turks in positions of power in the US establishment. This is a verboten topic, of course. Pale fo the settlement.
@joshuapaul2022
@joshuapaul2022 11 ай бұрын
At this point unconditional surrender is the only practical solution for Ukraine . Hitler's Germany also refused to admit defeat until Hitler killed himself, then Keitel signed unconditional surrender.
@DavidWestwater-vq6qy
@DavidWestwater-vq6qy 11 ай бұрын
Sure loser LMAO
@4DsTD
@4DsTD 11 ай бұрын
Idiots and comics brains are too big or maybe too little to accept defeat and surrender when it's abundantly clear there's no possible victory for them. They're so egotistically driven with pride that they're willing to sacrifice all the people of their country and ultimately themselves and not operating in or on behalf of the best interest of the masses of the people, the victims, the ones that are suffering and the ones that have made the sacrifice.
@mysticone1798
@mysticone1798 11 ай бұрын
Zelensky may have to be removed to make way for peace in Ukraine.
@liselamoureux888
@liselamoureux888 11 ай бұрын
​@@mysticone1798ot killed. Wonder who would get his mansion??
@StompingRabbits
@StompingRabbits 11 ай бұрын
Lindsay Graham gets the mansion.
@V12F1Demon
@V12F1Demon 11 ай бұрын
Anatoly is picking his words carefully. Nobody in the Ukrainian part of Zaporizhia would speak freely. He also talks of _Russian bombing_ but sidesteps the shelling of Donbass which was behind by the Ukrainian govt.
@yttean98
@yttean98 11 ай бұрын
Prof S. Kotkin is one, casts Russia as evil and Russian as an enemy.
@siamcharm7904
@siamcharm7904 11 ай бұрын
an extreme neocon.
@jossiesh7649
@jossiesh7649 11 ай бұрын
Kotkin is a sick guy. He is driven by hatred.
@bsure4
@bsure4 11 ай бұрын
exactly. Also prof. Tim Synder at Yale, home of the Kagans
@calicocat8213
@calicocat8213 11 ай бұрын
A very entitled, conceited fellow, this Kotkin.
@karlheinzvonkroemann2217
@karlheinzvonkroemann2217 11 ай бұрын
Perhaps this is a one of those subjects best addressed by reading Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's book entitled "200 Years Together" if an English translation can be found of course. Neocon's at least from the period that l first became aware of hearing of them were heavily dominated by Jewish Americans.
@DAVEBROWNE2004
@DAVEBROWNE2004 11 ай бұрын
These people will ruin societies and civilizations if left to their conniving and scheming.
@siamcharm7904
@siamcharm7904 11 ай бұрын
still are.
@vaska1999
@vaska1999 11 ай бұрын
True, except that the original key neocons were all Anglos.
@helenegan1079
@helenegan1079 11 ай бұрын
​@@vaska1999Were they?
@Soul-zl6bb
@Soul-zl6bb 10 ай бұрын
@karlheinzvonkroemann2217 A remarkable number of neo-conservatives are of Eastern European descent. For example, A. Bidens grandpa is from Kiev. (He was called Blenchen. In 1904 the family Blenchen migrated to the US and called themselves Blinkin. The next generation turned that into Blinken.) V. Nulands grandpa comes from Moldova and her grandma from Belarus (they were called Nudelman). Kagan, from Lithuania. Etc. In Canada, C. Freelands grandpa was the Ukraine nazi-collaborator Mikhaylo Chomiak.
@jacquesjanssen7361
@jacquesjanssen7361 11 ай бұрын
Russia may come to the negotiation table if their conditions as already agreed in the Minsk agreement. That later the former PM A. Merkel of Germany revealed that the agreement only served to win time to weaponize Ukrana under support of Nato militairy. The SMO started at first instance to bring Ukraine back to the negotiation table. An other striking fact is the elrction of Zelenski as president as he promised peace Starting his reign we discovered that his agenda wa 14:07 s a totally different one.
@dinnerwithfranklin2451
@dinnerwithfranklin2451 11 ай бұрын
I think Poroshenko and Holland have both admitted the purpose of Minsk 2 was to arm Ukraine as well.
@jean6872
@jean6872 11 ай бұрын
*I cannot agree with Dr. Anatol Lieven when he says that ethnic Russian speakers of eastern Ukraine would prefer to stay with Ukraine rather than independence or unity with Russia. I wondered if his accident had damaged his head.*
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@Alex-xl7yf 11 ай бұрын
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@blcheah2672
@blcheah2672 11 ай бұрын
As another commentator put it: Ukraine now has severe paranoia and lots of people are prosecuted or arrested for treason. Nobody dares to put in a good word for Russia. But all that Ukrainian oppression may actually backfire when there is a vote taken.
@jonathanheppel8225
@jonathanheppel8225 11 ай бұрын
This is the first time that I have felt absolute honesty from Mr Lieven: well done to Pascal for asking the right questions.
@constantquestioning4010
@constantquestioning4010 11 ай бұрын
Agreed Usually, he sets about spinning for his US paymasters in a manner most disturbing for an articulate English academic - where impartiality, balance and accurate factual assessment are fundamental « givens » Strangely compromised First time here that he appears almost reasonably balanced and open to considering the legitimacy of the Russian position Since he comments on the French speaking world, he should begin by reading the most authoritative scholarly work of Swiss intelligence officer and UN doctrine authority, Colinrl JACQUES BAUD Baud highlights the facts impartially: Russia’s preemptive operation prevented an imminent, planned, announced U.S. proxy war attack on the civilian populations of the Donbas - they asked Russia for military protection which required Duma approval since Russia had no forces in Ukraine prior to Feb 2022 - and a U.S. neocon plan to cleanse ethnically Russian Donbas and occupy it, prior to attacking Crimea in keeping with a Ukranian decree announced by U.S. neocon agent Zelensky in early 2021. How could Russia not react to an unprovoked US neocon proxy war attack on its defense security, economy, culture and existence ? Baud points out that Russia’s operation was legal under UN legal doctrine to PREVENT a civilian population from an imminent genocidal bloodbath. Blinken and Kuleba signed in October 2021 a « U.S. Ukraine Charter » whereby Ukraine committed to applying for NATO membership - the U.S. neocon regime having already de facto built, armed, trained and directed Europe’s largest military for e on Russia’s border since the U.S. neocon coup d’état of 2014 which led to the Russian population’s « independence within Ukraine » demands. The Charter envisaged more or less selling the vast naturally rich assets and control of the development of Europe’s largest region to the U.S. neocons. As a telling sign of things to come, US fund BlackRock purchased some 20% of Ukraine’s richest lands at « distressed asset » prices - a surface area equivalent to that of ITALY no less - with the able assistance of US neocon puppet Zelensky and his Kiev cabal. Such « privatization » operations amount to blatant commercial colonization on Russia’s doorstep - in full knowledge of Russia inseparable millennial historic, cultural, spiritual and civilizational link with a region that was artificially divided from Russia by Bush Senior when US operative Gorbachev was conned into weakening Russia’s unity. In a referendum at the time of this « peaceful » dissolution of the utopian Soviet Union, the multi ethnic populations of the Russian borderland Ukranian regions voted FOR remaining part of Russia. Bush rushed to Ukraine, made fiery fiery speeches, promising to back Ukraine’s independence… and the artificial creation of a desperate country that had never really existed for any length of time prior to the Soviétisation of the region - began. The U.S. neocon divide and rule ta ti s as set out by the published Brezhensky neocon doctrine has been robotically pursued by the U.S. neocon regime The illegal undercover regime change operations began in 2004, grew violent and polarizing with the coup d’état of 2014 that brought the hard right polarization of Porochenko and the Bandera extremists and killing squads backed by the U.S. neocons to power Followed by the U.S. neocon puppet installed by the oligarch Kolomoisky who also funded murderous hard right groups 14,000 were massacred in the Donbas This context proves US neocon culpability and Russia’s legitimacy. What the Ukraine conflict reveals is the U.S. neocons indifference to Ukranian lives - and by calling the out of control dysfunctional US Neocons’ bluff - the underlying US neocon aim of weakening, demonizing and Balkanizing the world’s largest and most naturally rich country is what the U.S. neocon unprovoked attack on Russia is all about. Putin’s sun is to have been the world’s most successful leader in restoring Russia as one of or the most important world powers in the space of 25 years - as its friend and neighbour China lifted hundreds of millions out of poverty at a speed unprecedented I human history. With the consolidation and growth of BRICS+50, accelerating global dedollarisation and the dumping of fictitious and risky U.S. debt as the neocon regime teeters on the permanent brink of default - a newly reconciled and more cooperative multipolar world order is uniting to counter the genocidal horrors and tyrannical abuses of U.S. neocon hegemonic projections, thereby pushing the progressive implosion, decline and fall of the lethal and universally loathed « Empire of Lies » once and for all. In short, it is heartening to witness this academic shifting to less ambiguous ground at last.
@michaelg659
@michaelg659 11 ай бұрын
Dr. Lieven is great. I wish he had more of an audience. Thanks for bringing him on.
@Warkurus
@Warkurus 11 ай бұрын
It is not just Neocons. For example Germany has welcomed Russian born Germans back to Germany after the cold war, Kohl even said that these people are Germans, not Russians, and gave everyone German citizenship. Now Germans have completely forgotten this part and see everyone born in Russia as Russian. Normal people now in Germany don't recognize for example a single exhibit at the natural history museum in St. Petersburg as real and support de-russification, fire Russians and even Russian born Germans whenever and wherever possible, and then tell them to go back to Russia to fight Putin. These are non-political, normal people, who don't even support a party.
@twangbarfly
@twangbarfly 11 ай бұрын
Interesting - the readiness of the Germans to accept their servitude under the US neocons is puzzling. They need to get back their Tuetoborg mentality with regard to oppressive, overbearing imperial powers.....
@pbworld7858
@pbworld7858 11 ай бұрын
What do these Germans make of the tennis player Alexander Zverev? An ethnic Russian born in and representing Germany.
@Warkurus
@Warkurus 11 ай бұрын
@@pbworld7858 They only criticize him and don't lose a single good word.
@pbworld7858
@pbworld7858 11 ай бұрын
@@Warkurus Do you know what was all the Nazi shouting about at his recent US Open match? Was it aimed at him?
@Warkurus
@Warkurus 11 ай бұрын
@@pbworld7858 I don't know anything about that, sorry.
@Lina-nm6cp
@Lina-nm6cp 11 ай бұрын
Thank you , great interview , wil read and share also article 🕊️peace is what we need 🙏
@som9097
@som9097 11 ай бұрын
It all forms part of the global hegemony contained within the following declaration "The only good Pole is a deed pole". Can't at this moment in time point directly to the author of this declaration.
@ccahill2322
@ccahill2322 11 ай бұрын
2som9097, A "deed pole" is something entirely different to what you are stating. A deed pole is a legal document. You need to get your facts, understanding and spelling right before you start "an international" incident. The world is run by lunatics already so be careful with the language.
@temmy9
@temmy9 11 ай бұрын
the modern neoliberal order only negotiates from a position of weakness. when it is in a position of strength, it demands unconditional submission
@MrSlavikman
@MrSlavikman 11 ай бұрын
Sorry to disappoint but russian casualties are only 50-60.000 to ukraine-nato 450.000+
@MrSlavikman
@MrSlavikman 9 ай бұрын
@@ziggys. Says the random internet troll.
@GabrieleProto1
@GabrieleProto1 11 ай бұрын
the europeans peolples I know are very open to all cultures and peoples of the world they don't have anti- sentiment , they just feel that Neocon are not for a good future of europe, naturally europe is in the euroasian continent and we must educate ourself to leave in peace and prosperity with the peoples of this continent, stay human and not con
@robertgriffin6668
@robertgriffin6668 11 ай бұрын
NATO mission, keep the US in, Russia out, and Germany down.
@DavidWestwater-vq6qy
@DavidWestwater-vq6qy 11 ай бұрын
​@@robertgriffin6668good mission
@catocall7323
@catocall7323 11 ай бұрын
I meet Europeans all the time from many different places, they all seem to rabidly hate Putin and the Russians. Save for the French who have a healthier mix of opinions.
@GabrieleProto1
@GabrieleProto1 11 ай бұрын
@@catocall7323 I'm sorry for them I don't feel hate for any humans in the world, best wishes
@helenegan1079
@helenegan1079 11 ай бұрын
If the Europeans are so open to all cultures why were they gloating and demonising Russian people at the start of the war confiscating Russian assets. Imposing sanctions outdoing each other in the effort. They thought they would be drinking vodka in Moscow while dividing up Russia and its territory once they destroyed the Russian economy. In their arrogance the Western tools underestimated Russia and destroyed Europe by cutting ties to cheap energy and resources. How is this working for them? The Europeans need to grow some brain cells to understand what they did themselves, will affect all for generations to come. "It is better to die on your feet than on your knees"
@damienmurray3928
@damienmurray3928 11 ай бұрын
The Cuban missile crisis was resolved by Russia agreeing to remove the offending nuclear missiles out of Cuba, and the Americans agreeing to take missiles that threatened Russia out of Turkey. The result left the world a much safer place. Something similar must be done to resolve the present crisis. Firstly both sides need to stop talking about a victory, agree an immediate ceasefire and commence negotiations.
@johnsmith1474
@johnsmith1474 11 ай бұрын
Simplistic & inaccurate review of history, the removal of some missiles did not automatically make anything safer, in fact nuclear missiles in place ready to use are what prevents some kinds of war that would occur if conventional forces were able to be used with impunity. The Cuban crisis was invented by the US, pushed the world near war, and it's end only resumed the status quo before the crisis. You have no idea what is going on here, the Russians are going to have their victory, because they must. You can't negotiate with Nazi Ukrainians.
@user-iz8td8ts3e
@user-iz8td8ts3e 11 ай бұрын
Russia does not trust the West any more. Every time it did in the past, the West cheated
@vaska1999
@vaska1999 11 ай бұрын
The US must agree to roll back NATO military installations to their 1991 positions and put in writing its commitment never to invite or allow Ukraine and Georgia into NATO. Those are the minimal preconditions for a new, fair security architecture in Europe. In return, the Russians must agree to hold a new set of internationally observed referendums in the 4 regions that used to be Russia, were then annexed to Ukraine, and are Russia once again, to determine the will of the majority of their residents as to which country they want to be a part of.
@alien9744
@alien9744 11 ай бұрын
13:27 Too late for referendums because of the emotional expect of the war. Time was before 2014, and still Minsk 2 before the start of this war, but now it's too late.
@sherylhay13
@sherylhay13 11 ай бұрын
Americans intense dislike of Russia is just baffling🤔 It just dosent make sence
@des_smith7658
@des_smith7658 11 ай бұрын
The US thinks that they own the planet
@davidthompson1369
@davidthompson1369 11 ай бұрын
Americans need someone to hate so they don't have to reflect inwards. We're always good so someone else must necessarily be El Diablo.
@khunmikeon858
@khunmikeon858 11 ай бұрын
Any country that doesn’t bend the knew to the USA is intensely hated by Washington. Period
@giselapfeifer4666
@giselapfeifer4666 11 ай бұрын
Hate is a waste of energy. Love and good will have better results.. May Russia prosper and see good times! The Russian people deserve better after decades of suffering.. President Putin is a very capable leader of the Russian federation
@matthewbattaglia7329
@matthewbattaglia7329 2 ай бұрын
Poroshenko : Russian speaking children in Donbas will live in cellars while our children go to kindergarten. That should have been enough for any normal citizens to understand worldwide if there was any transparency
@sdrc92126
@sdrc92126 11 ай бұрын
Hitler vowed that Germany would never again be defeated by a lack of resources. In his unpublished second book, he lamented that “the German people is today even less in a position than in the years of peace to feed itself from its own land and territory.” In 1936, he glowingly spoke of the “incalculable raw materials” in the Urals, the “rich forests” of Siberia, and the “incalculable farmlands” of the Ukraine. --Holocaust Encyclopedia
@unibks4382
@unibks4382 11 ай бұрын
Eurasian integration is a threat to maritime island nations like Britain and US. Halford Mackinder.
@neovxr
@neovxr 11 ай бұрын
@@unibks4382 The Neocons are totally obsessed with Mackinder, though they are reluctant to explicitely tell, but for example, there is a guy named Gerard Toal, who did, and a couple of others. Then also, there is Dovid Katz, who suggested that behind the words of Tim Snyder there might be a lot of revanchism and "holocaust revisionism" which means the double holocaust cult that says Putin = Hitler.
@ambition112
@ambition112 11 ай бұрын
0:00: 📰 Anatole argues that the media is ignoring Sarkozy's reasonable statements about Ukraine. 3:58: 🗣 The speaker argues that the current approach to negotiations with Russia is flawed and proposes a more democratic and inclusive solution. 8:30: 🔍 War in Ukraine has led to a shift in attitudes towards Russia and Ukraine, with discontent towards the Ukrainian government and some support for joining Russia. 12:06: 💣 The situation in Crimea and Ukraine has led to bitter alienation and a potential water blockade from both sides, and there is a deep-rooted zero-sum thinking and pathological hatred of Russia among military circles. 15:51: 💣 The speaker discusses the belief that damaging Russia is seen as good, based on their experience covering the mujahideen in Afghanistan. Recap by Tammy AI
@agharuokansirim4935
@agharuokansirim4935 11 ай бұрын
It's nice to know that there are still human beings on earth
@majormoolah5056
@majormoolah5056 11 ай бұрын
During the Trump years, Macron often went to Russia and there were talks and press conferences about the multipolar world. A French strategic goal is having a purely European security architecture that would include Russia in some capacity. One of the American war aims was clearly to make this impossible. Make Europe and Russia into enemies instead, because that would re-establish American hegemony over Europe. You may remember that Macron talked about "security guarantees for Russia" and "off-ramp for Putin" and he was moralised to death in the media. Now we are stuck like flies in cobweb. Because we are at war, we need or, we think we need, NATO. And USA is still leading NATO and Biden cannot make a peace that is seen as Russian victory due to the 2024 election. Part of it is Russophobia and the military-industrial complex needing an enemy. But there is also genuine moral outrage about the war. Because it violates the UN charter that Russia can invade Ukraine and seize territory. It does not matter from that perspective if these people want to be Russian. Perhaps France should invade Switzerland and take a piece that has all the French-speakers in it? Of course a peace must be made. But there are still legitimate difficulties on the table. It is banal to say "well negotiate and let us live in peace." Because what are you willing to give up? Russia will want USA to remove the missile bases in Poland and Romania, which does make sense. But taking territory? That is a different story. Ukraine will never accept that. And then we will have more of what we have already seen. Ukrainian state-sponsored terror strikes into Russia. And who will guarantee Ukrainian security? It makes perfect sense from the Ukrainian interests to want safety against possible future Russian attacks. That could only come from NATO and that is of course unacceptable. But if there was an all-European security alliance... then we would have to pull the plug on NATO and make it happen. But USA would not want that to happen. And it would be difficult to get all European capitals to agree in any case. And what happens to Zelensky? He has already said he would not accept a peace that includes giving up territory. Should we just unseat him to make peace? So it is not just "stupid people cannot see reason" -- there are many difficult legal issues and geopolitics at play. I do agree that the war is unwinnable and putting off the peace talks will only make them harder. There will not be a frozen conflict in any case. If there is no peace, then Putin will push on until the Ukrainian military collapses and there is a capitulation. In any case, after the war there will be a tremendous political earthquake in Europe that will very likely be the end of NATO.
@giselameunier4788
@giselameunier4788 11 ай бұрын
End of nato will bring peace, Nato is a warmongler
@vaska1999
@vaska1999 11 ай бұрын
Let me whisper these three little words in your ear: Responsibility to Protect.
@ccahill2322
@ccahill2322 11 ай бұрын
@@vaska1999, So whom are you referring to? The "western NATO" protection racket. Or the responsibility for a people to protect it's people from being murdered. Are you referring to the US/Neocon invasion of Ukraine and setting up a puppet government?
@MrSlavikman
@MrSlavikman 9 ай бұрын
Problem here is, we Russians just dont give a damn about western moralization or what that cesspool parastical West thinks. If you want war, you will get war. Everyone here pretty much now hates EU, you arent Europe you arrogant sons of...we own 1/4th of Europe, the richest 1/4th. You are the back end of a continent called Eurasia, soon to be the backwater, irrelevant, poor, freezing degenerates. Bye bye. You dont like what we did? Come fight us. You wanted us as enemies, you got it. And dont tell me the excuse its not the people's fault, it absolutely is: you elected, tolerated and followed the satanic clowns that own you.
@barrylane1055
@barrylane1055 10 ай бұрын
I am afraid that LIeven is delusional about his views. I don't like to describe him as. Russian troll, but he is certainly a "useful idiot." Note how he never talks about Russian propaganda or its repression of its own people, or the problems that Russia faces to become a true modern nation. As for Russophobia, most of us in the West are fascinated by Russia and are interested in it. The sad truth is that the real Russophobes are the Russian elite who have never ceased to distrust and despise their own people, and will do anything to stay in power. Trying to project this onto the United States really underlines LIeven's profound limitations and prejudices. This makes me truly sad.
@azulceleste2646
@azulceleste2646 11 ай бұрын
Some interesting and some totally ridiculous remarks in the comment section here. Blind hatred is just learned behaviour and propaganda.
@user-hu1sw2mm1m
@user-hu1sw2mm1m 11 ай бұрын
They really didn't say why they hate Russia
@des_smith7658
@des_smith7658 11 ай бұрын
Americans are gun nuts
@reggiebishop5398
@reggiebishop5398 4 ай бұрын
What is the old saying," they who have control the energy have control of the power" so you can figure out the rest
@noggogo6932
@noggogo6932 8 күн бұрын
The split in the Ukraine is not "geographic." It is ethnic. All ethnic aspect of the discussion are erased, such is the extend of self-imposed blindness of liberal egalitarianism/nondiscrimination. The logic is inverted: it's not that Ukrained bombarded certain regions because they're ethnically alien from the core and they wish to join Russia for the same reason. The recent bombardments are presented as the only rationale for voting one way or the other. This is the liberal "rational consumer" model. Blindness to ethnicity also makes the neocon "hatred" for Russia totally incomprehensible in human terms. And finally: the French far-right does not claim de Gaulle. This is not well-known, because that segment of the politicla spectrum is suppressed and censored (sites taken down by the French government, etc. "intolerance of intolerance" of course only applies to the right-end.)
@drewm9903
@drewm9903 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately Europe has a centuries long history of being colonialists and that hasn't changed much. Only thing that change is their obsession with colonialism made them pawns for the US Empire (who are neocolonialists). Colonialists have a serious problem when it comes to respecting the rights and existence of other nations and Russia being one of the nations that stood them up on multiple accounts everytime they tried to conquer Russia whether it was through proxy war or an invasion like Napolen Empire and Nazi Germany means that NATO supporters are naturally gonna have a deranged hatred for Russia, it isn't about anything virtuous like "democracy, freedom and liberty" because how can people in countries with centuries of history of enslavement, colonialism and genocide even pretend that their country stands for it when people in said "democratic countries" are allowing their own freedoms to be stolen by an elite cabal?
@derikuk2967
@derikuk2967 10 ай бұрын
But now Europe is being colonized by their former colonies. Karma is a bitch!
@drewm9903
@drewm9903 10 ай бұрын
@@ziggys. No they aren't. They haven't been in like 100 Years. Especially post-Soviet where the territory they did gain from WWII had to be given up and Russia today was initially not even interested in getting any land from Ukraine when Russia went in on February 2022. Russia caring about their National Security does not equate to colonialism otherwise you may as well put every country on Earth as a colonial power today and given that Europe and the US keeps proving to be a credible threat to that because surprise, they wanna colonize Russia, it only seems like Russia is a colonial power. Also, France is a colonial power still. The UK to some extent is as well though most of it now is due to financial connections rather than with military as the UK lacks a relevant military force and France is slipping as well.. I say the last major colonial power globally would be the United States (followed by minor colonial powers such as Israel and France and France is losing their grip).
@derikuk2967
@derikuk2967 10 ай бұрын
If a federation is a form of colonialism, then the USA is definitely a colonial occupier of North America. Do not do victory dances of virtue when you are standing on very thin ice.@@ziggys.
@Zemlchka357
@Zemlchka357 11 ай бұрын
Hatred Russia is NOT US national interest
@jossiesh7649
@jossiesh7649 11 ай бұрын
Russophobia is a sickness.
@derikuk2967
@derikuk2967 10 ай бұрын
It is the interest of the USA and its controllers. It is not in the interest of the American people. There is a difference.
@juliusaugustino8409
@juliusaugustino8409 11 ай бұрын
You should interview Heikki Patomäki who is a Finnish professor of world politics and global political economy at Helsinki University. He and Tuomas Forsberg have written a book 'Debating the War in Ukraine', which was released in 2022
@giulianoapostata
@giulianoapostata 11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@fersegov9699
@fersegov9699 11 ай бұрын
coup d etat is the fastest way to save Ukraine, ala afrca style, a military junta, overthrow zelenski far more less bloody than face the russians😮😮😮😮
@derikuk2967
@derikuk2967 10 ай бұрын
The CIA control over the Ukrainian state is far too strong.
@V12F1Demon
@V12F1Demon 11 ай бұрын
He hasn't even been to the Donbass and forms an opinion on how people in the East would think!?
@V12F1Demon
@V12F1Demon 11 ай бұрын
To simply take the word of any Ukrainian is absurd given the fascist security state they have currently unlike, the thousands of Russians who are airing their opinions freely online everyday.
@antondubiel7239
@antondubiel7239 11 ай бұрын
Is the level of stupidity required to hate indiscriminately not so high that anyone displaying it should be immediately removed into some rehabilitative facility where they can do no more harm?
@well9179
@well9179 11 ай бұрын
Majority of ukrainian soldiers who fight in frontline today coming from Eastern and Southern Ukraine i.e. Odessa, Mykolaiv, Kherson, Dnipro and Zaporizhzhia. Majority population of this region speak russian. The lowest among them is Lviv, Lutsk, Uzhorod, Chernihiv, Ivano-Frankivsk and Chernivtsi.
@dabass438
@dabass438 2 ай бұрын
I grew up in the '60s; back then they adored the Soviet Union. The only reason for the change in opinion must have to do with Christianity. The Communists were atheists; modern Russia is one of the most Christian countries in the world--highest percentage of population are Christian, as well as fastest growing Church in the world. So while what you're saying makes sense, this could be an additional aspect to their mindset (I don't believe they are capable of thinking).
@chalo7694
@chalo7694 11 ай бұрын
Ask to the people? I what world Lieven lives? Don't you remember when Greece government asked the Greeks if they wanted to be economically rescued or not, they voted NO and the Euro Group did rescued them (money were basically going to French and German banks) without concerning about Greek people will? or did you forget when Catalan tried to voted democratically for independence and they were smashed by spanish government without any saying from Europe? Elites will sink whatever they need to keep power and money. They do not care for normal citizens daily life.
@Goldbar401
@Goldbar401 7 ай бұрын
Neokon hate for Slaws.
@rebaser6172
@rebaser6172 11 ай бұрын
“Neocon” hate. Interesting. Do these “neocons” have names? Perhaps if we identified who they are, we could discern why they have such a particular disdain of Russia.
@stuartwray6175
@stuartwray6175 11 ай бұрын
The Ukrainian government refused to devolve powers in 1994, when polling (referendums were banned) took place in Donbas and Crimea.
@antondubiel7239
@antondubiel7239 11 ай бұрын
Even the abysmal architect of apartheid, Hendrik Verwoerd , confessed to a personal affection for many of the victims of his vile policies.
@timmccarthy982
@timmccarthy982 11 ай бұрын
That's a interesting map. Search for a map of where Ukraine's natural resource wealth is. And a map of countries Black Sea off shore oil rights.
@bvkronenberg6786
@bvkronenberg6786 2 ай бұрын
I think you mean Neoliberals not Neocons. Neocons are isolationists.
@Brian-bw3uu
@Brian-bw3uu 3 ай бұрын
Russia needs to take its army and go home. Then all is well
@Featherdsun
@Featherdsun 11 ай бұрын
Like our own heart an alligator's is been splitted down the middle, there is not the intention for soldifying peace , clearing their land is the option
@d.d.6045
@d.d.6045 10 ай бұрын
this bloke is clueless
@The0ldg0at
@The0ldg0at 11 ай бұрын
But if you want money for people with minds that hate All I can tell you buddy is you'll have to wait. Revolution - Beatles - 1968
@jonathanchorn1850
@jonathanchorn1850 11 ай бұрын
Not talking about zionists
@barrylane1055
@barrylane1055 10 ай бұрын
Pascal, you are sadly out of date and know very little about Ukraine. The vast majority of Eastern Ukraine, except for Crimea, are ethnic Ukrainians who speak Russian. The is even true of the Donbas where only 38% of the population was pro-Russian or anti-Ukraine in 2014. As a result, you have a minority using the force of Russia to get their way. Trying to use a referendum as LIeven suggests is a fantasy. These populations have been so manipulated and destroyed by Russia that you could never have a proper vote. Most of the population are refugees.
@catalincarceanu7991
@catalincarceanu7991 4 ай бұрын
Are you serious ? ,,Ethnic ukrainians"? ,,Ukrainian " is rather about citizenship.Like ,,british".Ethnically they are russians in South East or ruthenians in the western Ukraine .
@banzobeans
@banzobeans 11 ай бұрын
👍
@saskiademoor8400
@saskiademoor8400 11 ай бұрын
Mmmm what s happening here. About 4000 views but 25 000 likes?
@mariobrosus9315
@mariobrosus9315 10 ай бұрын
Fake news
@toyeticreviews8701
@toyeticreviews8701 11 ай бұрын
Deutronomy 32:8 He set the bounds of the people according to the chi childiene /ered" The divide between Eastern and Western churches had grown wider as the Western Chunchus edited, and and fabricated their Bibles in 1908, 1911, 1936 to Coincide with World was I and war 2. The Result of the Revised lible show Subjace Twon f the British Empile under the Web of the Star of David. "Rothchilde Clan":" while the Caffic, Greek, and Eastern Churches refused to shape their duling under the Banner of Judai for them the Christ mission was to save humanity from the Wrath the Jewish God
@xxvxxv5588
@xxvxxv5588 11 ай бұрын
But there is also strong anti-Russian sentiment among Europeans. Especially among Europeans with liberal views or nationalist Europeans from many countries that were previously under Russian influence. With the exception of Belarus and some Balkan countries, including Hungary, almost nowhere in Europe there is no strong demand for close cooperation with Russia.
@robertgriffin6668
@robertgriffin6668 11 ай бұрын
I suspect that Russia has come to the same sentiment about Europe. It is just not worth the headache when the global south is ready to do business with Russia minus debilitating entanglements.
@robertgriffin6668
@robertgriffin6668 11 ай бұрын
@@richardparker1338 I'm a little jealous, because Russia appears to have a bright future ahead of themselves, whereas the west seems to be in rapid decline.
@xxvxxv5588
@xxvxxv5588 11 ай бұрын
@@richardparker1338 You probably just think about negative attitudes towards Russians as a people, not about negative perception of Russia as a state.
@DavidWestwater-vq6qy
@DavidWestwater-vq6qy 11 ай бұрын
​@@xxvxxv5588dude everyone in the west hates putin
@xxvxxv5588
@xxvxxv5588 11 ай бұрын
@@robertgriffin6668 both Russia and the West in decline because of demographic.
@helmski
@helmski 11 ай бұрын
No talk about moving those who want secede to Russia proper.
@davidthompson1369
@davidthompson1369 11 ай бұрын
Its their land. They will leave for Russia and their historical lands will follow. The idea they should leave because of the innate racism of the western Ukraine's is ridiculous.
@helmski
@helmski 11 ай бұрын
@@davidthompson1369 That is not how international law works. It’s Ukraine’s land not any individuals.
@sixzero5576
@sixzero5576 11 ай бұрын
Do you support Kosovo Albanians moving to Albania then? This would include NATO occupation force also leaving Serbian Kosovo land.
@twangbarfly
@twangbarfly 11 ай бұрын
​@@helmski Rules-based international order - based on whatever rules the US happens to choose, you mean?
@helmski
@helmski 11 ай бұрын
@@twangbarfly no, the US has been in violation of international law as well and should be held accountable. I’m talking Law not your feeling.
@davidfoster2006
@davidfoster2006 11 ай бұрын
This man is a weak Russian appeaser, it never works.
@khunmikeon858
@khunmikeon858 11 ай бұрын
You evidently don’t like what he has to say 😂. Respect to Russia from Ireland for finally standing up to this American BS. The sane people of the world need Russia to break this USA hegemony once and for all. 🇮🇪💚🇷🇺
@Tonydjjokerit
@Tonydjjokerit 11 ай бұрын
DON'T BE AN IDIOT! He's just sensible unlike the Psychopaths and their supporters i.e. You, who support a nuclear war and the American century when most of the world doesn't want it!
@stephenbrunner2543
@stephenbrunner2543 11 ай бұрын
🇺🇲 You leave out the justified guilt over selling out Eastern Europe at the end of WWII. It was an unforgivable 50 year sentence. I do not and will not support selling out Ukraine. Russia made the war. It was a choice. So sad, too bad.
@twangbarfly
@twangbarfly 11 ай бұрын
Are you lecturing us from the States?
@helenegan1079
@helenegan1079 11 ай бұрын
When you shake hands on a deal like the Minsk Agreement with the Collective West you need to count your fingers afterwards. To find it was a only to give Nato time to arm Ukraine. Shows they wanted a war with Russia, they thought was for the taking. They got it wrong! What now that Russia is turning its trade Eastwards? No more cheap energy coming from Russia! Winter will be cold and people who had no say will suffer and watch what took decades to build destroyed in a year.
@catalincarceanu7991
@catalincarceanu7991 4 ай бұрын
As a romanian I can tell you are mistaken..You are considering all the bolshevics as being russians.In fact the comander en chief of Red Army during the civil war was an ukrainian jew,Leon Trotsky. For 37 years,after Stalin's death,USSR has been ruled by 4 ukrainians ( Hrushchev,Cernenko,Brezhnev and Gorbachev) Rusia hasn't even had her own comunist party.
@Abbadoss
@Abbadoss 11 ай бұрын
What is happening in the world now will have enormous economic consequences for the West and unfortunately we have people in the West who are unable to see that their influence will only fail and become more irrelevant, the Brics nations will grow and that in turn will lead to other technological, social, economic advances that the West will not be able to influence. The leaders of the West are trying to hold on to a worldview that is dying and this in turn will lead to the West being forced to ultimately accept a new world order. As I see it, it is a self-inflicted situation and one can only state that As you sow, so shall you reap. I live in the northern part of Europe and I am not a political or economic expert, but even I can see that there are many things happening in the world that will affect my reality for many years to come.
@fabiengerard8142
@fabiengerard8142 11 ай бұрын
‘’The Heat Will Kill [us all] First’’, I’m afraid…
@Abbadoss
@Abbadoss 11 ай бұрын
@@fabiengerard8142Do not be afraid of those changes because I am convinced that they will also lead to positive changes even in the western part of the world, they will certainly sting for some but for the majority of people it will lead to the better. Our rulers will learn the valuable lesson of compromising with others.
@twangbarfly
@twangbarfly 11 ай бұрын
@@Abbadoss Your leaders may learn a great many things, but until they have freed themselves from their American overlords their learning will count for nothing, as is currently the case.
@Abbadoss
@Abbadoss 11 ай бұрын
@@twangbarfly You are right about that, but sometimes miracles can happen that make people and countries change their minds about many things.
@rahimamin4967
@rahimamin4967 11 ай бұрын
Humanbeing is geneticaly sick!!
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