Never EVER Do These Things On A Pickleball Court | Etiquette

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In today’s video, we’re going to talk about the pickleball court etiquette: the do’s and don’ts on the court!
Pickleball is fun, but there are times when it can be frustrating, annoying, or even make us angry. Poor manners and bad sportsmanship can ruin an awesome day on the courts.
You don't want to accidentally become "that person" that no one wants to play with. And when you do encounter bad apples, what should you do?
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@MrMuscleman420
@MrMuscleman420 Жыл бұрын
Pickleball players are very much like Bridge players. The better they become, the more obnoxious they become. There are plenty of us who have no aspirations toward being the next champion. Good manners and courtesy should never be abandoned.
@punk7066
@punk7066 Жыл бұрын
Amen to the bridge comparison. I play both, and the good (but not great) bridge players run the newcomers off.
@scottwillis5181
@scottwillis5181 Жыл бұрын
Mr420, did I find a fellow 4/20/48 birthday pal? Kinda agree, St Pete, 3 quite competitive challenge courts, 3 rec but pretty much 3.5ers. Disagree in that my plan is top 10 over 75, thus crazy competitive but all fun.
@mikemolinaro5446
@mikemolinaro5446 Жыл бұрын
You exactly correct
@jumbo6498
@jumbo6498 Жыл бұрын
In my experience, everybody is very nice at my courts. The only exceptions are overly competitive old men and older women who are "ladies group" players.
@erikfranzen578
@erikfranzen578 11 ай бұрын
True that… people really show a lot about themselves in competitive conditions. Some people just can’t seem to regulate the aggression or frustration.
@747jpdrummer
@747jpdrummer Жыл бұрын
Don't patronize lesser players. If they hit a great shot, tell them, "great shot!" Mean what you say --and tell them (if time permitted) why it was a great shot. This will help improve their game, identify their strength and encourage them. I know it does me.
@joeluis98
@joeluis98 4 ай бұрын
I just recently started, about 2 weeks. The group I play is extremely large, over 30 ppl. In their heads, they are all 20.0, lol. Then, if I’m on a team, and we start losing, my partner takes over the game. He hits anything that comes across the net, regardless of where it lands. Then there are those who give me pointers. Mostly everyone contradicts what the ones before told me. Then if I forget to let in bounce on the 2nd hit, or hit a ball that could possibly been out, or even worse, step in the kitchen, they get upset. How am I supposed to remember 300 rules in 2 wks, compared to those who have been playing 5 yrs plus?
@mikebrown7143
@mikebrown7143 2 ай бұрын
Sometimes you have to remind them theyre playing wheelchair tennis and the only reason theyre there is because theyre not athletic or skilled enough to play tennis. This has only become popular recently because people tried to rush to it in hopes of actually being good at something no one else had played plus how easy it is to pick up
@josephmiller9180
@josephmiller9180 Ай бұрын
Man that sounds frustrating!
@tome4285
@tome4285 Ай бұрын
Luckily, not all clubs are like that. The more organized ones have opportunities for beginners to improve their game with players of comparable abilities
@musictouchurheart
@musictouchurheart 28 күн бұрын
I had a horrendous experience yesterday. The folks I played with as soon as learning it was my first time in that gym (I'm not a first time player though, just not very familiar with formal rules) started issuing tons of "orders" during the play, specifics on how I serve, where I stand, how to move, how to hit, yelling in the mean time when I tried to move and hit the call, basically non-stop, to the point that I completely lost my ability to make any decision in the court. While I politely told them they caused me losing my composure while showing my appreciation, they were all smiling seemingly to show good intention, I became very frustrated after the play. I had to believe that if I were 6 feet white man they wouldn't treat me like that. some instructions are appreciated but what they did was really too much. I wanted to share this experience here, hoping those who exhibit similar behaviors can see this and reflect on their manners. The lady who issued the most orders said "You have to learn if you wanted to be competitive!". But you've ripped off all the fun!
@josephcripe2334
@josephcripe2334 28 күн бұрын
I'm sorry you had that experience. I love showing new players the game, and find that its best to let just one person help a new player out, instead of a cacophony of voices saying a lot of things all at once. I hope you have a better experience next time. :)
@musictouchurheart
@musictouchurheart 28 күн бұрын
@@josephcripe2334 Thank you. I played a total five games yesterday. Fortunately all the other players were really nice and helpful.
@romrich
@romrich 20 күн бұрын
Has nothing to do with your race. If you don’t know the rules, it’s just ass annoying for the other players. Don’t make it all about you and look at it from an outside perspective. If you want to play more casually, make friends to just play casually. Simple solution
@PacmanBrunner
@PacmanBrunner 11 күн бұрын
Jajajajaajajajajajaa
@lisadunn4730
@lisadunn4730 8 күн бұрын
Quite interesting, I had a similar experience as you today from my teammate. Turns out, she doesn’t (hasn’t been corrected, I presume) know the rules as good as she thought (Open Play). Also, ball went flat when hit to me, I asked to check the ball and the same teammate stated it was a good hit, thus winning a point for other team. Two plays later, ball was actually cracked. Sometimes our biases do play into how we treat people. At the end of my game, I made sure to say “We play by the rules,” to everyone. As a gesture of consideration but I have to admit. I questioned this individual, considering I’ve yet to experience this type of demeanor, thus far. So, hang it there… there will always be some (prepare your mind ahead of time for negative people). Just remember you came to have fun and know the rules. ❤😊
@buddygregory8466
@buddygregory8466 2 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks for putting this together to help someone new. I'm a 65 year old man and have taken a few lessons along with another player also taking lessons with me; we joined with some other players who play regularly in an open court session at the rec center. The first couple of groups we played were very experienced and were very gracious. They knew were learning and helped us to get through a couple of games. We were very appreciative of their generous attitude. Next time our turn came up, we were playing against two ladies who were also very experienced. We told them we were new and did not ask for help or any instruction. We kindly asked that they please bear with us as newbies to the game. At the net before play started, one of the ladies said very unkindly "THIS IS NOT INSTRUCTION", which of course we knew and were not expecting. Every shot through the game they took advantage of our inexperience and smashed the ball whenever possible, quickly thrashing us 11-1. Not what we were expecting of social/recreational players. I agree with the othe comments stating that good manners and courtesy should never be abandoned.
@vaishupatel13
@vaishupatel13 Ай бұрын
Agree with you! I have strong playing pickleball a month ago.. I had same experiences.. I hope they play for a fun.
@cchemmes-seeseeart3948
@cchemmes-seeseeart3948 Ай бұрын
Maybe it could help to ask to play without score keeping. Or maybe it can help to gauge how far a few lessons have taken you, to help you gauge if an experienced team can beat you. I'm curious what you feel would be a solution? I'm totally new to pickleball. I don't think beating someone is bad etiquette, although it's something to think about... just playing with kindness as a #1 principle. Maybe those ladies went the same journey, & learned by experience / socialization that this is how it's done? I think the best life principle is to just believe the best of people. It seems the #1 social problem that could occur in pickleball is everyone taking negative issue with each other. Blessings. Peace. Love wins. Have a great day everyone.
@mc80466
@mc80466 18 күн бұрын
Sorry to hear this happen to you because it is incredibly disrespectful. The etiquette is that significantly better players should always win graciously and be understanding/helpful. When I play with beginners who mess up by stepping in the kitchen when they volley, for example, I'll keep playing the point and remind them after to watch their feet on the volleys. Always compliment a good shot
@buddygregory8466
@buddygregory8466 18 күн бұрын
@@mc80466 Thanks for your reply and kind words. Since I started playing, I have learned there are some people who are gracious and helpful and others who couldn't care less how they behave towards other players. I avoid the jerks and play with people who want to have fun. Another thing that has helped is I found a rec center where I can play with people who are closer to my level.
@mccgunter
@mccgunter Жыл бұрын
I need to clean my act up for sure. Thanks for the reminder 😊
@stevet6676
@stevet6676 Жыл бұрын
So, in other words, don't let a friendly game of pickleball turn into one of those out-of-control little league games when the parents erupt into fist fights.
@pickleballer1729
@pickleballer1729 Жыл бұрын
Haha! Yep, that's what he means.
@cchemmes-seeseeart3948
@cchemmes-seeseeart3948 Ай бұрын
LOL
@nealconner1939
@nealconner1939 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make this. This should be required viewing for those just beginning , those playing in league play or or tournaments.. A subtle way to remind how players should act when playing the game at all times. I plan to share this with all those I play with. Good job....on a much needed video!
@Space_Burrito_Rat
@Space_Burrito_Rat Жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Calling the ball in when in doubt is important, especially in rec play when everyone is just trying to have a good time
@SocialBobcat
@SocialBobcat Жыл бұрын
I've always felt that there are two ways for competitive spirit to be raised, either through antagonism / dislike when one or more participants are acting poorly, or through a good-natured rivalry when everyone wants to win but still are self-secure enough to praise good efforts by the opposition and make friends in the process. I know which method in the macro sense is better for society....
@NateNorgaard
@NateNorgaard Жыл бұрын
If I hit a shot that rolls over the net and wins the point, I usually say “oh, unlucky” in a similar voice tone as people say “oh, sorry”. I prefer this because it (I think) helps diffuse the frustration of the point by acknowledging the luck aspect without turning it into an apology that nobody wants.
@stephenrussell1612
@stephenrussell1612 3 ай бұрын
yeah, That happens to me not for me, Id say HA
@Brandman1297
@Brandman1297 Жыл бұрын
Very good tips. Never understood saying sorry for ball rolling off the net tho. If my opponent hits me with it then good for you good shot. I don’t expect an apology
@brevonmckinney2537
@brevonmckinney2537 Жыл бұрын
I do that all the time, I don't really say sorry, but I just start laughing
@charlieytpw
@charlieytpw Жыл бұрын
I always ask the player who got the lucky tape rollover , if they want the point? Most laugh and say YES! Enjoy it
@Christina4758
@Christina4758 Жыл бұрын
We all laugh no matter what side we are on.
@jeremysmith9694
@jeremysmith9694 Жыл бұрын
No kidding. If a ball rolls over it's not like they meant to do it. Why would I need an apology from them. It's not like they did on purpose.
@Brandman1297
@Brandman1297 Жыл бұрын
@@jeremysmith9694 fr bro
@ognahtanoj
@ognahtanoj Жыл бұрын
Solid stuff. I'm very surprised you didn't include "spectators input on line calls" though as this one irks me the most.
@bill4482
@bill4482 Жыл бұрын
That’s right! Whether they make the correct call or not, the players call them the way they see it, and there shouldn’t be any argument, or even any looks or comments. If the player calling the ball in or out, isn’t sure, then the ball is good!
@CaveWyatt
@CaveWyatt 8 ай бұрын
Coming over from tennis I can tell you there is a paucity of etiquette in pickleball. Most of the stuff mentioned here happens with alarming regularity on the pickleball court. Especially people walking behind play or standing behind play jabbering with people in the stands. Tennis players don’t walk in the gate unless the ball is dead much less stand in play. One thing not mentioned here is people across the net arguing calls. It’s NOT your call; turn around and keep playing unless the other team asks for your help. Says that right in the rules, along with the disagreement rule mentioned in the video.
@josephcripe2334
@josephcripe2334 28 күн бұрын
Your first paragraph is probably the most ignored piece of etiquette I encounter on the courts.
@karenhenson8532
@karenhenson8532 Жыл бұрын
I think also when there’s a newbie on the court, or people who are beginning or intermediate, the bangers should not go after them, especially in their face I think it’s just rude It’s OK to hit strong at the feet or at the side but if you just wanna kill somebody, then go do it to other players that are at your level
@valerie1468
@valerie1468 11 ай бұрын
Agree! I'm beginning and play with a group of seasoned players, and all too often I end up the target of all the bangers! So frustrating!
@wilfredomejia2807
@wilfredomejia2807 9 ай бұрын
That is why I love the arrangement in the courts where I play: there is a separate cluster of courts for the young and the bangers; a separate cluster for mature players and newbies. Pickleball enthusiasts learn soon enough where they belong or shall I say where they should play. There are a few players who try to venture out into the other cluster. If you are a banger, you'll realize soon enough you really shouldn't play in that cluster; and vice-versa. This "unwritten" arrangement makes for a generally wholesome playing experience. It goes without saying that there will always be an exception to this "rule." Which really means there will always be an "asshole" (pardon my French) out to push the limits of decency/maturity.
@josephcripe2334
@josephcripe2334 28 күн бұрын
@@wilfredomejia2807 "The Young and the Bangers", weekdays at 1PM on CBS
@laurenbrimmer267
@laurenbrimmer267 Жыл бұрын
Good video! The ‘sorry’ on the net tape should be said with a chuckle. Other suggestions: ‘you’ll get the next one’ or, (laughingly) ‘Better lucky than good’
@user-un3el8bh6x
@user-un3el8bh6x 7 ай бұрын
5:30am. I'm new to the game, about 5 weeks in. Thanks for those tips (some of which I am guilty of). Very insightful and I'm sure it will help me have a great experience. 👍🏻
@ClaytonCarroll
@ClaytonCarroll Жыл бұрын
If you have a slam and can easily put it away, aim for someone’s feet, not their face 😂
@dcppcp
@dcppcp Жыл бұрын
You would think that it is a common sense safety and etiquette thing but apparently not since they now have it in the rules to not target above the shoulders
@CWK090
@CWK090 3 ай бұрын
I’ve played with very aggressive players but I’ve never played with or against anyone who targets the face. Besides the obvious reason that you could seriously injure someone, is a very small target and if you miss, the ball is very likely going to be called out. At the NVZ, your opponent’s paddle is up so it is easy to block. It’s very common for competitive players to target their opponent’s non-dominant hip or shoulder to “chicken wing” them.
@JakeKane-yi4qu
@JakeKane-yi4qu 17 күн бұрын
If you put the ball up in the air you better believe there’s a rocket coming at your chest 😂😂
@stevewood6655
@stevewood6655 Жыл бұрын
keeping score can be challenging, especially when people speak softly or worse don't even say the score at all. Pet peeve of mine.
@ntdscherer
@ntdscherer Жыл бұрын
Stop play and ask for the score. Do that enough time and maybe they'll clue in that it's required.
@green7449
@green7449 10 ай бұрын
I play in a public area where hardly anyone is even intermediate level. So balls end up in other peoples courts all the time. Every now and then you’ll get a group of Karen’s that start to become rude after you’ve hit a ball into their court multiple times. I get it it’s annoying, but 90% of the time the ball can be completely ignored since it’s against the fence or in the corner. But they’ll pause the game, make a rude remark then toss the ball back into our court, It’s so unnecessary and just rude as hell. We literally have extra balls so that other courts know they can ignore our stray balls until their rally is over specifically to not interrupt a match. Today we had idk probably 5 balls go into their court over 2 hours of play. Only 1 ball actually went into the playing area that couldn’t be ignored and that was enough for them to shout “REALLY?!” At us. I nearly gave her a piece of my mind. Like I’m so sorry that we interrupted your geriatric pickle ball session for 20 seconds.
@cchemmes-seeseeart3948
@cchemmes-seeseeart3948 Ай бұрын
It seems communicating with the other team before commencing to play might help negotiate the solutions you have. You seem to have good solutions. Just let the other court know it is okay with you if they don't deal with every ball that comes their way. Communicating is #1 to solve so many things. Blessings. Peace. Love wins.
@josephcripe2334
@josephcripe2334 28 күн бұрын
Balls encroaching on other courts is just part of the game.
@garryshea4945
@garryshea4945 17 күн бұрын
Safety first and communicate it to all in the building. Healthcare is getting expensive.
@kylepickleball
@kylepickleball Жыл бұрын
The lines are in EXCEPT for the kitchen line on the serve
@laurajkirk
@laurajkirk Жыл бұрын
You know, I'm not going to lob a ball over the head or drop the ball in the kitchen against the guy who has a botched hip replacement every single shot. But when every single shot he hits to me is a 50 mph slam, you damn well better believe I'm not going to show him any vast amount of mercy. He slams it for one reason, to get a point.
@Cade467
@Cade467 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. If they are trying to abuse your weaknesses, then that gives you the go-ahead to play the same. You will find a lot of people don't like when you take it easy on them. Played doubles with a guy who had 2 prosthetic legs and him didn't like it when i tried to only return to him.
@camdenpresley
@camdenpresley 10 ай бұрын
good video to make and to watch as a beginner. tennis is my primary sport and i recently just started playing pickleball and it's good to be able to have something where i can comprehensively learn the etiquette and culture, as it is much different from the competitive, sometimes aggressive culture of usta tennis
@pickleballer1729
@pickleballer1729 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I love that you included my two pet peeves, not that they're the worst things, but that they're the most common things (in my experience): Always hitting to the weak partner just to win, and deliberately taking advantage of handicaps that are not really about the person's technique, such as hitting lobs into the sun, or hitting lobs over the head of opponents that have movement limitations. The only thing I would suggest to improve this video would be that you might have talked a bit slower, and included a bit of explanation on some of the issues. Good job!
@pickleballmedia
@pickleballmedia Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your Feedback, will definitely improve on that.
@ttb1513
@ttb1513 Жыл бұрын
@@pickleballmediaOf course, I listened at 1.5X speed.
@adamclapham1153
@adamclapham1153 Жыл бұрын
Just fyi….. you can slow the speed of any video by clicking the 3 dots in the top right corner, and clicking on playback speed. Don’t slow it down too much lol, it makes the commentator sound drunk!
@trevorlee7945
@trevorlee7945 9 ай бұрын
I play with some players that are so motivated to win at any cost they always hit to the weaker player even when they have severely limited mobility. I wont do that I think its lame AF.
@izmizzle
@izmizzle 8 ай бұрын
Why are they even keeping score if they have mobility issues that prevents them from playing?
@elliotsaddoris4400
@elliotsaddoris4400 7 ай бұрын
As new players. I do really like the tips and willing to teach. Or just help practice stuff. The community in my area seems to welcome new plays. And it wonderful learning from everyone! 😊
@adamwiest622
@adamwiest622 6 күн бұрын
Yesterday I was in a group of 6 people playing at a park with 4 courts. We usually go to a park with 16 courts, so we have never run into the issue of needing to rotate in and out, and naturally did not know about the four on four off thing. When asked to do it after our next game, we agreed. All of the people waiting then continued to argue that we had been playing way more than 1 game, which we had because we had not been informed of the rule. Instead of letting us finish the game we were playing when we were informed of the rule, which was at 7-7, people came onto our court and took it over, not allowing us to finish our game. We will likely never come to this court again due to this bad experience. Please be mindful that not everyone knows how things operate at a pickleball court, and that you need to be patient with newbies who are just learning the rules, or didn’t know them at all. If we would have simply been allowed to finish our game, everything would have been fine, but interrupting mid-game is the reason I am personally upset.
@dylancardoso7655
@dylancardoso7655 Жыл бұрын
Had an old lady today tell me and my fiance she wasn't gonna play against us because she was a 4.5 and I was so confused but I could tell she was trying to say she was better than us. I just laughed but now that I think about it why would someone act like that to a complete stranger just trying to have fun lol. Some people are weird man
@JamesWrightTellingOnGod
@JamesWrightTellingOnGod Жыл бұрын
Very well stated video. Simple rules are "treat others as you would like them to treat you."
@aliensarereal7832
@aliensarereal7832 Жыл бұрын
That's why I treat everyone Like shit. It's how I prefer to be treated.
@tracymicheli8639
@tracymicheli8639 Ай бұрын
Great video. i play with a couple groups that follow all of the examples you showed. It is a joy to play with people like that.
@markheneghan3804
@markheneghan3804 Жыл бұрын
You should make the point about people coaching others during the game, to many experts out there who are average players.
@Christina4758
@Christina4758 Жыл бұрын
Or even bad players who have an inflated idea of their skill.
@michaels7566
@michaels7566 Жыл бұрын
I live in an over 55 and there are some players here that are great at returning but are not very quick on their feet. I have noted that some folks short serve (drop it just past the kitchen line or off to the side) so that those folks can't get to the ball on time. Admittedly, I did that for a time when I just started but now absolutely will not unless they are kicking our ass.
@michaels7566
@michaels7566 Жыл бұрын
@@escapedfromnewyork It's all in fun. Interesting, the reality is that I do keep score most of the time as there are many here that can't remember it. Some even toss the ball back after server 1 has served because they thought they were server 2. We are not talking about 90 year old folks but people in their 60s and 70s. Is that common among younger folks also? You are right that if it was to just play a game and practice you could just rotate servers and not keep score but that would take away some of the fun. Each game is like a dream in that I forget about the last as soon as I am involved in the next. Great fast moving game.
@zuzu7250
@zuzu7250 Жыл бұрын
I agree but please dispense with profanity/ vulgarity. Most people will not play with anyone with a potty mouth. Including me….
@michaels7566
@michaels7566 Жыл бұрын
@@zuzu7250 OK...sorry. For dramatic purposes only : )
@lighten851
@lighten851 Жыл бұрын
Neighborhood drop in league so out of 8 weeks seen same players most 3 times. Yet some of these overconfident- have terrible Racquet skills- super bossy to those of us newer players! They’re attempting to be head picklehead! The same yeller, hits to opposite side to player who is stuck in quicksand- waiting for her partner run heck allover so not to lose. After being treated badly last 3 times, bullies spread like mold; left and just”bye’d my good players. Can’t be ignored but I’m there for fun. Learn a knew skill, exercise! I say keep your personality disorders off my court! Important not given in to some lazy players; you’ll unnecessarily strain your body instead gaining good experience. Some these players 10-15 years older too!
@toddspangler6669
@toddspangler6669 Жыл бұрын
​@@escapedfromnewyork Totally agree! I've had some of the most fun playing without keeping score.
@welovetennis9151
@welovetennis9151 5 ай бұрын
I do love this video very much the often issues I am facing when we play every week is the group of friendly play they stop and keep chic chat for long period of time at change over or move up or move down the courts that the rest of players had to standing there to wait forever or in between the play players just stop kept talking to each others or other friends walk in delaying the game play while some of us just want to get fun game going so we can leave go on with our day… But I am too polite to say anything but it becaming on going issues.
@Crustyguns
@Crustyguns Ай бұрын
Lmao- 8 minutes of “how not to piss pickleballers off”😂
@shortround889
@shortround889 Жыл бұрын
I hate loberz who do this with individuals with limited mobility or use the son to their advantage. I kindly discourage my teammate if they are doing this, pointing out the others limits. I like plying to MATCH the others levels. I got told to not hold back. I kindly remind them I want everyone to enjoy the game while learning (I start low then ramp up slowly to help the other player adapt and learn without slaying them and making them miserable). Kindness goes a long ways! Oh, and I limit the amount to f instructions/suggestions to others unless they ask, give praise about what they did that worked encourages similar behaviors and makes them feel more positive and relaxed!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️ It’s the counselor in me that wants everyone to enjoy, help, and love the sport. We ALL started at the same point as beginners
@babbybailey2534
@babbybailey2534 3 ай бұрын
I've never played, waiting for new season to sign up. This was helpful. Sportsmanship is important to the game.
@nancysutton9333
@nancysutton9333 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making the video. I would suggest slowing it down a bit and also use recreational players vs. pro players. I found myself watching them and not following the script. Having it acted out vs. using clips from tournaments. I’ve always wanted to do this on etiquette as you have done but with the idea of making something more like the video Jennifer Lucore and Alex Hamner did you on the NVZ line. It was very entertaining and got the word across much better. Thanks again for your hard work on this very needed video. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@douggie9991
@douggie9991 4 ай бұрын
Yea, agreed , ...SLOW IT DOWN !
@deanstewart8727
@deanstewart8727 Жыл бұрын
All good points. Good to see and share a video like this. Thanks.
@pickleballmedia
@pickleballmedia Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@shannonheckler
@shannonheckler 7 ай бұрын
Good reminders! Thank you!
@robinwatts1235
@robinwatts1235 7 ай бұрын
I believe you should never play a point over because of a disagreement of a line call. The rules state clearly whose call it is to make, and they also prohibit arguing over a line call. If you disagree with a call, you can ask the partner of the person who made the call if they saw it out too. If they agree with the call, go on to the next point. Don't argue or replay points because you disagree.
@williametanner412
@williametanner412 Жыл бұрын
We ALL started out newbs, NEVER forget that.
@ellenmulcahy1575
@ellenmulcahy1575 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you ☺️
@danielfros
@danielfros Жыл бұрын
I couldn't quite tell what he meant about lobs towards the start of the video, the way he phrased it, but it sounded like he was saying lobs are mostly disrespectful. Hard disagree, they are difficult to pull off effectively, more power to you if you know how to execute the tactic. If the sun or wind is a factor, even more reason to use the lob. It's a fair point though, to calibrate to the situation, and not excessively lob a lower level or limited-mobility player in a social, non-competitive game. Good idea to change sides in recreational or competitive settings. I've seen players complain about lobs in competitive situations (i.e. Leigh Waters), and it's not a good look in my opinion.
@nunyabidness3075
@nunyabidness3075 4 ай бұрын
I’m a beginner, and I also didn’t get that. Of course, if your opponent has mobility issues, it’s a bit tacky of a tactic, but that’s not a competitive play situation. In those cases you have more fun and get more improvement by playing to their strengths. OTOH, if I’m facing two better players, and I’m out of position, why not go for it. Isn’t the point to make them hit more balls?
@destodave
@destodave Жыл бұрын
I'm a competitive table tennis player that recently started playing pickleball and I always say sorry when I hit the net. That is customary in table tennis, so I just continued doing it, but some of the pickleball players said you should never apologize, it was a good shot! Some people just are not good sports.
@xfitnesscoach
@xfitnesscoach Жыл бұрын
I'm not sorry when the ball hits the top of the net and trickles over for a winner. Saying your sorry is insincere at best. You're glad it went over! If you feel the need to say something other than "point," maybe go with "that was close!"
@ocvegasproperty
@ocvegasproperty Жыл бұрын
I just oh, that was lucky or good shot if they do it.
@fogflyer
@fogflyer Жыл бұрын
Always apologize! We do it in tennis and we should do it in pickle ball. For those who say it's not sincere, I disagree. I am not sorry the ball dropped on your side and I got the point, but I AM sorry that I got the point via a lucky bounce rather than a clean winner.
@mitchellsewell275
@mitchellsewell275 Жыл бұрын
@World Viewer Pickleball is fadulous(sic), yes?🤫
@frankgonzales8340
@frankgonzales8340 5 ай бұрын
​@@fogflyerexactly
@dd-lv6sr
@dd-lv6sr Жыл бұрын
This was great! However, I was hoping it could be explained what the etiquette is in social play for how far or how often your team mate can come into your side or your space to make a return. Of course when you are in a tournament your team mate and you have a chemistry about those situations which strategically works to win the games. But in a social setting you most likely do not have a regular team mate so more often than not in advanced (or even I find in intermediate) play your temporary team mate is either coming into your space or his/her wing span is abruptly taking your hit away from you. There must be some kind of etiquette about this. Please share if you know?
@fogflyer
@fogflyer Жыл бұрын
I always have a quick chat with my partner before starting. In general, you let the person with their forehand in the middle take the very middle shots that either player can get, as people's forehands are almost always better than their backhand. I rarely do a full on poach unless I am playing with someone I know well and know they are comfortable with it. Also, if one person is at the kitchen and the other person is still back, in general the person at the kitchen takes the ball if they have a good shot. Communication is important about who is taking the ball, both before and during the game. Calling out "ME" or "YOU" is quite helpful. If you think your partner is taking too many balls away from you, especially if they are your forehands, just let them know.
@bill4482
@bill4482 Жыл бұрын
If the ball is close to both players, just say MINE or YOURS.
@green7449
@green7449 10 ай бұрын
@@fogflyerThis is awesome advice.
@briang1320
@briang1320 10 ай бұрын
So often, in social play, you are playing with an unknown partner and you don't have a set plan with them for whose to play the ball, especially balls between you and them - the down the middle balls. So generally, if you are both right handed, it is best to ask them before you begin playing: "Forehand takes the middle balls? Plus, a foot beyond the middle line? And see if they agree to this common arrangement. If they do agree, then do that. IMO this better than "calling balls" as you just don't have time on fast balls and don't even need to call slow balls as who plays those balls are just obvious. "Respect the X," or angle coming in is another concern, if they know what that means. Another, more even advanced concern, is the player with the "momentum" (activily returned the last ball and is in the heat of the battle) stays playing the ball and his partner does not interfere, and this goes for, almost no matter, how far into the partner's court they are. So there are exceptions, but any more than these, concens, are most likely more than you can communicate with a stranger, before a normal game. Even some of these may be too much for some players so proably can't take this plan of action, any further, unless this person becomes a regular partner. Like a tournemant partner.
@llamasugar5478
@llamasugar5478 8 ай бұрын
@@fogflyer That’s a great tip! I only play indoors in winter, so will tuck this into my PB memory pocket for later. “Middle/Forehand” is a good, succinct way to put it.
@brucedaley8526
@brucedaley8526 Жыл бұрын
This happens to all of us. All players are up at the kitchen line and a hard shot passes both opponents. By the time one or both look when the ball landed, it is already out of the court. In most cases, they don't know so we ask the opponent "in or out". Etiquette prevails and the opponent answers honestly. Occasionally, I hear simply "it's your call". Other times (it happened to me) the player just says "out" (bad call). Everyone misses a call but the important thing (in my mind), if an opponent is upset at the call and have a clear view of the shot and you are not certain about the out call made, reverse the decision (if your partner is also uncertain). Unless it is a tournament or pro league, keep it fun.
@briang1320
@briang1320 10 ай бұрын
If it's 99% out, it is IN." All questionable balls are to be called in. Any hesitation on a call means it is questionable - so it is in. BOTH recieving players can make the call. Generally, the inactive receiiving partner (the player not playing the ball) can see it better, so they should make the call. When nobody on either side can make a 'for certain' call - it is IN, period. There are no do-overs in the rules. The ball is simpy in.
@billsalcido7878
@billsalcido7878 Жыл бұрын
My friend has been playing for two years, it was my second day and we were playing with his small daughter, and an older woman and he destroyed us. Often hittin it sky high to mess with us. He said he thought playing a better player would make us better but we hit the ball so few times I don’t see any benefit…oh well, probably have to play with other people then
@cchemmes-seeseeart3948
@cchemmes-seeseeart3948 Ай бұрын
I think the best life principle is to just believe the best of people. Even if they miss a shot, so do you sometimes. Even if they are learning, so were you. Even if they beat you, because winning is not bad etiquette. Even if they hit the ball in the sun, as this video talks about, because maybe the other side of the net really doesn't know YOUR experience & you need to just communicate (or bring your sunglasses). Communicating kindly to express needs/ issues/ experience/ feelings, etc, can solve a lot. As they say, it's not what you say, but how you say it. Don't get mad over what you don't take charge of by failing to simply communicate. Don't think for other people, assuming you know their motives against you; you could be so wrong. If people show a spirit of competition, it IS a game of points, trying to do well, & there can be some joy/ satisfaction in that, if we all keep it friendly. We are in charge of managing our own feelings, not other people. I see much room for misunderstandings in all of it. I'd say a #1 rule is to believe the best of each other/ not give a negative story line to the acts/ mind/ intentions of others. Believe the best. It seems the #1 social problem that could occur in pickleball is everyone taking negative issue with each other, instead of having kindness/ love #1, as in ALL of life. I'd say you never need to feel bad or be bothered by anything in pickleball, because you never lose anything in pickleball: it gave you a day of exercise, & brain growth in learning skills, & social connection, etc. If something goes wrong, it could be worst/ such as on a battlefield, instead of a recreation court. Blessings. Peace. Love wins. Have a great day everyone.
@anoka114
@anoka114 Жыл бұрын
All great advice!
@Max-kj1xb
@Max-kj1xb Жыл бұрын
I wish they would post this more often, "When in doubt, the ball was in". Gotta love it in a tournament when you opponents have to discuss whether it was in or out , then declare it was out
@pickleballer1729
@pickleballer1729 Жыл бұрын
Really! Well noted. If there's a discussion, it's IN!
@janetdavidson4619
@janetdavidson4619 Жыл бұрын
@@pickleballer1729 Agree... unless the discussion goes like, "I didn't see it; did you?" But, in all fairness, an out ball should be called immediately, before any discussion gets started. 😊
@gunsandpolitics5510
@gunsandpolitics5510 2 ай бұрын
That's it exactly. The only discussion needed/allowed is "I didn't see it. Did you?" If the answer is "No", well, too bad, but you MUST give the other team the benefit of any doubt. Any other discussion and the point MUST be given to your opponents.@@janetdavidson4619
@gunsandpolitics5510
@gunsandpolitics5510 2 ай бұрын
Irks me in Pickleball OR in tennis when when my opponent says "I didn't see it, how about we play it over?" That pisses me off, because the whole game I've been playing "if I'm not sure it is out, I MUST give my opponent the benefit of the doubt!" I expect the same courtesy from opponents. I NEVER argue a call with an opponent or say we should play it over. A ball is either 'OUT' or it defaults to 'IN'. No inbetween. I will give ONE polite explanation to a newbie to explain the rule to them on the off chance that they do not know it. I will give them the explanation, but I will NOT give them the point.
@dath283
@dath283 Жыл бұрын
As a teacher, I always found scaling your game to match that of your challengers good teaching. Regarding advice, I always find the person's strength and tell them to keep doing that, that it is successful. When you tell them other things to improve their game, they will listen with greater interest. Loved the video!!
@pickleballmedia
@pickleballmedia Жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@SuperThunder911
@SuperThunder911 5 ай бұрын
At the age of 70 I’m still very athletic also a beginner at this game, used to be extremely competitive at other sports,now I just want to play have fun that’s it,thanks for the great video 💪
@michaelstetzer3144
@michaelstetzer3144 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for advice
@warriordrum
@warriordrum Жыл бұрын
When returning a ball to the opposing court, send it thru the air rather than pushing it on the floor of the court under the net. Also, its appropriate to move your paddle back in line to control the players of the group, never forward. Be confident when asked about lessor skilled players joining more advanced. Just say that intermediate players are expected to be able to serve reliably. volley consistently and keep score intuitively.
@CaveWyatt
@CaveWyatt 8 ай бұрын
Yes, yes, and yes. All rules of etiquette that were taught in tennis, among others mentioned in this video! From some of the comments I’m guessing those rules might be gone from tennis, too.
@briangeissinger4086
@briangeissinger4086 7 ай бұрын
I say, get the ball to the opponent nicley, anyway that makes it to the opponent in a fashion so they don't have to chase it. "LOOK" at the opponent always, as you send it to them. Aways send it SLOW enough so the reciever can easily get the ball. Rolling it to me is fine, and often better than sending in in the air. I just put my paddle down and let it roll up on to the paddle. Sweet! And I have a bad back.
@rabidcougar6465
@rabidcougar6465 Жыл бұрын
I was a good racquetball player who gave up the sport a couple years ago. When I decided to try my hand at pickle ball, as a beginner, I found that no matter where I went to play, the courts were filled with elitists who clearly didn't want to play with someone with my lower skill level. So I said screw it, I didn't need that sport........ For any elitists reading this post, this isn't just my opinion. I've encountered many other seniors with the same attitude who said screw it too........
@forkfork1
@forkfork1 Жыл бұрын
Most places are not that elitist....look for other courts or players. On the other hand many of us want a competitive game rather than teaching or coaching beginners. Consider playing one game with them (giving pointers along the way).
@laurahill1995
@laurahill1995 Жыл бұрын
The same thing happened to me, instead of saying screw this, I took multiple classes,drill, private lessons, and now I’m a good player. It’s not others job to make you a good player.
@user9b2
@user9b2 9 ай бұрын
Discovered pickleball a month ago - love it.
@mikelafleche2699
@mikelafleche2699 Жыл бұрын
Very good thanks
@GammonMaster-PcP
@GammonMaster-PcP Жыл бұрын
Good sportsmanship rules to play and live by 👌
@pickleballmedia
@pickleballmedia Жыл бұрын
Sportsmanship is the best way to demonstrate your respect for others and the rules of a game.
@moasaad
@moasaad Жыл бұрын
Very good! 👍🏻
@golfmaniac007
@golfmaniac007 Жыл бұрын
one of my pet peeves is the ball roll to the intended player or opponent. just pick the ball up and hit it back....its good practice for touch.
@Raysea88
@Raysea88 11 ай бұрын
In the video, it said to hit the ball “hard” to the player who lost the ball into your court. I hope that directive was not missed construed.
@peterwhitejr.4312
@peterwhitejr.4312 Жыл бұрын
Don't walk right behind a game in progress! Wait til the point is over then go by. Our local rec courts have a scourge of people who walk almost on the court to get to the next one while points are happening. I want to run into them 'accidentally' so they get the message.
@mikebaker7749
@mikebaker7749 Жыл бұрын
Senior player over 70! Love the game play 2-3 times a week.
@zuzu7250
@zuzu7250 Жыл бұрын
How do you find a partner? I am a beginner and find it very difficult to find a partner. Is it because I am 4’11” tall? My husband has hip problems- he isn’t able to play …
@mikebaker7749
@mikebaker7749 Жыл бұрын
@@zuzu7250 I joined my local YMCA and there’s a group of seniors that play. Just find a place they play and go everyone is friendly to new players. Good luck it’s a great fun game!
@bill4482
@bill4482 Жыл бұрын
Senior player over 70 and I play 7 days a week. Because of Long Covid, I now only play doubles about two hours, but when I was well, I played 3 to 3 1/2 hours 7 days a week.
@EmperorsNewWardrobe
@EmperorsNewWardrobe 3 ай бұрын
What’s the etiquette on body shots? Feet is ok, but torso? Head is a no, sure
@josephcripe2334
@josephcripe2334 28 күн бұрын
Feet are always a fair target, that's just good play. I don't intentionally go for body shots unless I'm with skilled players... at that point, they also understand that it's part of the game. And honestly, many of them are quick enough to put it right back to me. :)
@EmperorsNewWardrobe
@EmperorsNewWardrobe 28 күн бұрын
@@josephcripe2334 chest of skilful players?
@Chimboica2011
@Chimboica2011 6 ай бұрын
Love so much, much need it video.
@craftcreek4624
@craftcreek4624 Жыл бұрын
Awesome for our group in which there are some bullies, and no one waits for the receiver to be ready, thank you
@christinesurname
@christinesurname Жыл бұрын
A trick I use when faced with "bullies" that continually serve at me before I'm ready to receive is to turn my back towards them as I walk back to my spot to receive. I don't turn to face until I'm exactly where I need to be. You can also raise your paddle. Additionally, if you or your partner have collected the ball when play stops, don't pass it back to them until you're in position to receive.... those are all non verbal ways to say "you're not going to intimidate me!" If that doesn't work, don't be afraid to be assertive and politely ask that they don't serve until you have lowered your paddle.
@craftcreek4624
@craftcreek4624 Жыл бұрын
@@christinesurname great tips, thanks, I'll use them and share
@dietcoke66
@dietcoke66 Жыл бұрын
@@christinesurname Worked in racquetball, do the same thing in pickleball when it happens.
@buyingandsellingland
@buyingandsellingland Жыл бұрын
I’m a total beginner and just took a 4 session class. To give you an idea of my play, when I serve it only goes in about 70% of the time, not 100% of the time. Do you think it would be impolite for me to show up to “open play” and expect better players to play with me? What is the best way to politely handle the open play situation for a total beginner without annoying people?
@scottwillis5181
@scottwillis5181 Жыл бұрын
Often there are established times/days for more competitive or beginner times. Just ask when you arrive about court rules. In St Petersburg we have about 8 different areas for play. The St Pete Pickleball Association web has or will soon have advice for visitors.
@greggwhitfieldpickleballsh8164
@greggwhitfieldpickleballsh8164 Жыл бұрын
Have an attitude to practice. Show up at the courts as the first player there when players are going to warm up. You want to be on the court warming up which is drilling specific shots. If the first one there doesn't work, show up at the end of open play and often there are players that need a 4th. Work to get another play of a few players to schedule a time to do drills and your game will improve.
@buyingandsellingland
@buyingandsellingland Жыл бұрын
@@greggwhitfieldpickleballsh8164
@MikeVeracity
@MikeVeracity Жыл бұрын
If you decide you want to give advice to another player, ask them if they want advice. If they don't, don't give it. Even then, it delays the game for everyone so keep it short or keep it for after the game.
@Christina4758
@Christina4758 Жыл бұрын
I would go further. I never give advice unless it is asked for. And as a woman I really hate a man "mansplaining" how to play.
@alanlee3236
@alanlee3236 Жыл бұрын
So true! I NEVER give advice or coaching during a game. I do however compliment a lesser skilled player when they've done something great and why it matters - regardless of what side of the net they're on.
@aahyes9068
@aahyes9068 Жыл бұрын
For me, it makes no difference whether it's a man or a woman giving unsolicited pontifications on how to play but to each his/her own I guess.
@colerowekamp58
@colerowekamp58 Жыл бұрын
A player was wearing a shirt the other day while playing that read, “If I’m not paying you, don’t coach me!” Good advice.
@pickleballmedia
@pickleballmedia Жыл бұрын
I would love to buy one of that
@charlessell7224
@charlessell7224 10 ай бұрын
I play in Peru though I learned in the USA. We have around 150 players here and are growing rapidly. Players often step into the kitchen here and I usually just remind them to stay out of the kitchen unless it is egregious. What is the etiquette in the USA for when an opponent clearly enters the kitchen on a volley? I can see this situation leading to heated arguments in the more competitive venues in the States.
@sbinsdca
@sbinsdca 9 ай бұрын
Players will usually call it on themselves as it's pretty clear. If not, ask if they were in the kitchen. If they say no then move onto the next point.
@briangeissinger4086
@briangeissinger4086 7 ай бұрын
It's tricky, for sure. Keep in mind, too, the person you call a foot fault on "has to agree with you" that they foot faulted, or they can deny and ignore your call. Even if you call it on your own partner. So I have come to not calling minor infractions on either side. I tell my partner to watch his feet if it's minor. Sometimes people that have one whole foot in the kitchen, will say "no it wasn't. Then it becomes their call, not yours. That's the way it is - period. This can be one of the most awkward calls. I avoid it, if I can.
@malduf
@malduf Жыл бұрын
Good video! Thanks.
@pickleballmedia
@pickleballmedia Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@alanlee3236
@alanlee3236 Жыл бұрын
Nice. A lot of this is pretty much common sports sense, however it's amazing how many folks don't observe them. Just this past weekend I played doubles with a woman who has a torn rotator cuff and bicep, so she wanted to play with her left hand. I played with my non-dominant hand also. I couldn't believe how the other team just kept targeting her. She was extremely frustrated and so was I.
@aahyes9068
@aahyes9068 Жыл бұрын
I guess there's a difference between people for whom it's a sport and people for whom it's just social recreation. One of my friends tore his rotator cuff and stopped playing but I persuaded him to come out and let me help train his other hand. After a couple weeks he could hang at a competitive 3.5 but was still really not on par with the high 4 & 4.5 crowd he had been used to. He started asking if he could join us for one or two games now and then but would not overstay because we all like competitive games. And nobody complained b/c he didn't wear out his welcome doing that. A few months later I tore my rotator cuff and did the same thing. Switched arms and for several weeks I hit against a wall and then joined some 3.5 groups where I wasn't going to be a burden, gradually worked to improve til I was ready to rejoin my buddies. A person who expects others to play down to their level can be tiresome. The world isn't supposed to revolve around someone just because they get injured. Fortunately for every pickleball player at x level there are usually 10 to a hundred more around at level x minus 0.5. I think it's nice people want to be with their friends but it's also polite to know where you belong, skill-wise, because playing with weaker players does get boring after a while.
@pickleballmedia
@pickleballmedia Жыл бұрын
Great point!
@alanlee3236
@alanlee3236 Жыл бұрын
@@aahyes9068 You're right, of course. We tend to look at things from our own perspective, as I did when I commented originally. And I agree - it gets boring playing with someone who can't keep up. What I was trying to convey though was that we get so competitive sometimes that we get ridiculously ruthless. When we played that day, it was with an understanding that my friend wanted to "practice" with friends who would allow her to get up to speed with her off hand. One of those friends was her own husband, who mercilessly embarrassed her every time the ball came his way, all while I was taking it easy on his team because I thought we were all playing handicapped. I don't mean to beat a dead horse. I should let it go. One more comment though: doing ANYTHING with your non-dominant hand improves you because it causes you to think instead of reacting.
@brandonrussell3600
@brandonrussell3600 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had random partners put me down because I wasn’t up to their standards. I told them to F off, it’s recreational pick ball man. You’re not ruining my good time. Just go have fun and be respectful and everyone has a good time.
@mattr4886
@mattr4886 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for addressing a big pet peeve of mine; when a ball goes into an adjoining court and one of those players just slaps it back to our court without looking. Better to pick up the ball, hold it up, and look at the players to determine who to send it back too.
@jakesemonin6980
@jakesemonin6980 9 ай бұрын
I mean this pushing it.
@paulseminara2483
@paulseminara2483 Жыл бұрын
People in our area are - in general - super friendly on the court. That said, a rude person REALLY stands out. This is the person who is always making the line calls for the opposing side in a rude, loud and condescending manner. As stated that is not the rule. And physically I am always unsure how you could have even seen it being the farthest from the bounce!
@Markus451
@Markus451 3 ай бұрын
For anyone who is familiar with tennis, 'lets' are still called in pickleball for distractions like a ball rolling into the court but not balls which seemed most likely out. In tennis, both players could agree to a 'let' but apparently not in pickleball. Usually the tennis player who hit it willingly agrees to a let because he knows it was probably out, so he's OK with replaying it. But everything is dumbed-down in pickleball, such as these niceties of "gentleman's etiquette". It's either 'in' or 'out'.
@user-kx2wv1sv9j
@user-kx2wv1sv9j 8 ай бұрын
I often find myself watching my partner because the other team won't hit it to me. It annoys me. Sometimes I'll poach, just to hit the ball. Worse, I serve harder to the weaker player. This 'Keep away' strategy is quite popular in the Rockford area.
@edwithee3177
@edwithee3177 2 ай бұрын
I like the approach of calling balls 'out' only when you see space between the ball and the line
@josephcripe2334
@josephcripe2334 28 күн бұрын
Yeah, I'm pretty generous with calling balls "in"
@lauraforkes5533
@lauraforkes5533 Жыл бұрын
This should be sent to those who DO tell people who come to play on PUBLIC courts that they are not good enough and need to go somewhere else ... and there are SO MANY things in this video that players DO that are POOR etiquette! Recently I was in a challenge at a Seniors Center and they SMASHED EVERY SHOT at the players - there was NEVER any DINKING or KITCHEN game. When I spoke about the type of play I was told THEY ARE A GOOD PLAYER AND THAT IS HOW THEY PLAY! So bash bash bash is Pickleball? Who would ever have started this game if it was slam bam head targetting! Thanks for an EXCELLENT well put together video. I will turn 70 next year, I am competitive but the kitchen game here is SELDOM played- it is smash bash slam bam. WHO can put that out- and this is NOT TOURNAMENT play- it is a get together to ENJOY. the player who smashes and wins the point gets this self- inflated EGO about being better... hmmm they never play in SANCTION matches! Etiguette.... speak up against the aggression and you get nixxed and bad mouthed- I wish I could play where this video was produced. I would be happy to LEARN more and perhaps have a video on how to contend with PICKLEBALL BULLIES! Thanks
@flamingofan5411
@flamingofan5411 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it cracks me up! Where I play everyone is 50 or older and they get crazy competitive and out right mean sometimes. I’m like , we’re all just a bunch of old people, playing rec pickleball. Nobody’s going to the Olympics. Take a chill pill!
@aahyes9068
@aahyes9068 Жыл бұрын
solution is pretty simple, really: go find some other geriatrics, introduce the game to them if they aren't already familiar with it, and if and only if they aren't too quick and too powerful for you, enjoy! You have found your level and are no longer in the way!
@flamingofan5411
@flamingofan5411 Жыл бұрын
@@aahyes9068 such a lovely person 🙄
@briangeissinger4086
@briangeissinger4086 7 ай бұрын
One always needs to try and get themselves with players of their level. Hitting the ball hard is part of most players game. If you can't take it - don't. Find players at your non-slamming level. Have fun your way - cause you'll never be able to take ball slamming entirely out of the game. Sorry, just not going to happen.
@curtzimmerman
@curtzimmerman Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I play against a guy who is wound tight. Many times when he hits a bad shot that he thinks will be out he yells out. One of the few people who calls his own shots out. A few times he yelled out but it wound up in. Quite distracting. Probably not against the rules but poor etiquette.
@ScottT109
@ScottT109 Жыл бұрын
It is against the rules for him to call his shots in or out. It is the receiving side call. However in oftentimes will offer my opinion to newer players if I think they called it in when I saw it clearly land out. Just depends on who I’m playing with bc even with this some ppl may feel like you’re judging their ability to see the ball. I play singles with one guy who is very generous with line calls at all times so I try to do the same with him in return for his graciousness.
@Christina4758
@Christina4758 Жыл бұрын
People who take the game too seriously are not fun. Most of the really good players are chill and not loudmouths.
@fogflyer
@fogflyer Жыл бұрын
I often call my own shots out. I like to hit hard passing shots down the line and I am often in the best position to see if the ball was out, but I don't call it out until the shot has landed. I never call my own shots in unless I am asked, but if I see my shot out, I say it was out. Seems fair to me.
@joemarshall4226
@joemarshall4226 Жыл бұрын
99% out is 100% in is the rule in tennis when making a tough line cal. and don't hesitate to over rule your opponent fi she makes a bad call. Players will keep making bad calls until someone makes it clear to them that they are not calling the lines fairly....usually they know it deep down....
@josephcripe2334
@josephcripe2334 28 күн бұрын
The rules specify the call is on their side, there is no "official" path to overrule their call. You can raise an objection if it's a particularly BAD call, but best to just play on (maybe look at your partner and raise an eyebrow LOL)
@joemarshall4226
@joemarshall4226 25 күн бұрын
@@josephcripe2334 I made a mistake. I meant that we should over rule our PARTNERS if they make a bad call, not the opponents. If my partner makes a bad call and I'm SURE it was in, I immediately give the point to the opponent and just say, "I saw it in." If my partner complains, I just say, "that's the rules. I MUST give them the point if I saw it in."
@joemarshall4226
@joemarshall4226 25 күн бұрын
If the opponent makes an obvious bad call, I appeal to his partner, and ask him if he saw the call. If he didn't, or he's not sure, I can't argue. The call stands. But if the he knows the call was bad, he must over-rule.
@joshc.6706
@joshc.6706 4 ай бұрын
Oh my goodness I wish my partner from rec play the other night would’ve seen this video. I had a bad first two games. Every single time I missed a shot he’d turn his back, not say a word, or just roll his eyes. Best part was the fact I almost made the shot was a miracle because the man couldn’t hit a drop to save his life, every shot from the baseline was a drive. When I hit a reset never moved fast to the kitchen. But it was always my fault to why we lost. Lots of people think they’re way better than what they are.
@jamesmowenby
@jamesmowenby Жыл бұрын
An issue I'm having in local social play, is people wanting to have music playing on a Bluetooth speaker. I find it often hard to hear the score and distracting, especially if there are multiple courts and conversations going. I'm curious the thoughts on this Forum about music during PB.
@mra2424
@mra2424 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy some classic rock on the courts
@ThiccBoi23
@ThiccBoi23 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Keep the music low if need be, but while playing i don't pay attn to music, but calling out scores is not actual play and is distracting
@stevenstucko7039
@stevenstucko7039 Жыл бұрын
Play music in the car on the way to and from the court. People go to play a game with friends, not to listen to your latest mix tape.
@Christina4758
@Christina4758 Жыл бұрын
I totally understand you but I love it when music is playing. It makes it feel more like a party atmosphere.
@tleparskas
@tleparskas Жыл бұрын
I love music - but not on the courts. So distracting personally. There are enough distractions already.
@TheBridget1953
@TheBridget1953 4 ай бұрын
We play on 4 courts each week and we have about 30 members but we seem to have a problem with the ball in between rallies coming over onto the other (wrong court) . Are there any nets made to stop the balls from doing this . We are afraid of causing an accident by tripping to members Des
@ivalani
@ivalani 5 ай бұрын
We always welcome new players and spend some time teaching them some basics and playing a few games with them. However they need to be aware that we’re there for the exercise and the challenge and playing with beginners is actually a waste of our time for their benefit. Most of them are blissfully unaware of that and keep stacking their paddles with the good players until absolutely no one wants to play with them. Please publish more often videos on the subject of etiquette.
@skidz8426
@skidz8426 Жыл бұрын
there's actually something more about being the better player of your 4some. I come across this a lot although I'm not ranked higher there's other skills I have which make's me more of a challenge to play against. so here are a couple of things. 1) if you're playing down keep playing at that level. even if you're losing I can often play singles vs doubles even people at my own level. so when I'm playing doubles if we start to lose and I jump in and start killing balls I wasn't going for before just to win. for me its not cool. 2) don't tell people how to play, especially during a game. my favorite, maybe you shouldn't hit balls like that. meaning smashable sitters. but more so I'll hear people say things like use your legs or watch the ball. even little things like that brings peoples confidence down. there's a guy who said on the 3rd time we have ever played together that it must be him why I keep playing so bad. I refer back to previous statement I'm an aggressive player I hit what I hope to be winners. my goal is to hit unreturnable balls. that means close to the net and close to bounds of the court. this is the best way to get into my head and make me play bad. I'm sure it's the same for weaker player. 3) hhhhuhhh's don't hhuh your teammates they know they sucked on that shot. 4) ask someone sitting out if they want to switch in. if it's open play don't be jerks and "lets run it again" we're the good group we should stay together. I love playing with people under my level I can often keep a point alive when they hit a bad shot or they miss the ball and the best thing is positive reinforcement. I know what shot people are going for if they hit a nice shot threw a gap to the back corner and it's out let them know that was a good shot next time it'll be in. I tell my teammate keep doing that I like that shot. they hit a drive and it hits the tape thats a good shot. when you're down 8-2 the best tool you're going to have to come back is attitude set that up from the beginning. I suppose I'll leave with this last thing. don't say "the only reason we lost was..." doesn't matter what you say "bad playing, sun, wind, court, ball..." you're undermining the other teams victory
@marvconnelly989
@marvconnelly989 9 ай бұрын
Very well said!
@ocvegasproperty
@ocvegasproperty Жыл бұрын
What is rolling a slam? Not sure I followed that part?
@walkingman9171
@walkingman9171 9 ай бұрын
Yep: Same as tennis, some people are to ignorant to get it.
@xfitnesscoach
@xfitnesscoach Жыл бұрын
My rec group abides by most of these guidelines in my advanced league. My two cents, you should cover the hitting someone with the ball. What's this "I'm sorry" every time you slam it into someone's feet? It's not a baseball. You're not endangering their lives. Nobody is getting injured from being hit with a pickleball. FYI - I'm also not sorry when the ball hits the top of the net and trickles over for a winner. I'd do it every time if I could. Just like I'm not sorry at the poker table when I river a flush. Saying your sorry is insincere at best in both these situations!
@zuzu7250
@zuzu7250 Жыл бұрын
I believe it has something to do with “ being civil”?
@ntdscherer
@ntdscherer Жыл бұрын
Hitting the feet is one thing, the torso or face is something else. Though it doesn't bother me to get hit, it's just part of the game.
@briangeissinger4086
@briangeissinger4086 7 ай бұрын
I have to chuckle to with all this, "I'm Sorry" said, when the person hit a fine shot.
@paulwal222
@paulwal222 Ай бұрын
I disagree with the "don't lob with the sun at your back" advice. That's not rude at all, if y'all are playing even slightly competitively. That's like saying it's rude to lob into the wind or rude to drop shot. It's part of the game and part of the court conditions. That's why you switch sides. The only rude shots are ones that can cause injury, like hitting it at someone's face.
@stpetebeach63
@stpetebeach63 Жыл бұрын
I will give a warning for a foot fault; second time I'm calling it. That seems about right in rec play. Too strict?
@Christina4758
@Christina4758 Жыл бұрын
I think calling it nicely the first time is OK. It's all in the attitude.
@jeremysmith9694
@jeremysmith9694 Жыл бұрын
If someone calls a foot fault on me I watch their feet religiously the rest of the match and call it every time.
@danielrosborne
@danielrosborne 3 ай бұрын
I only call it if it's super obvious, like foot is more over the line than not. If it's close... I don't care.
@markpfahler7299
@markpfahler7299 7 ай бұрын
I slam it but I have tennis experience. And in tennis you know how to control an overhead. So likewise I know how to control an overhead
@max-andrewmcmillan4235
@max-andrewmcmillan4235 Жыл бұрын
Good one, thankfully I came from a country and schools where sportsmanship and good manners are paramount.
@RPPIII13
@RPPIII13 8 ай бұрын
I find that the more I play and the better I am, the more upset I get when I make a stupid decision whether it’s shot placement or being in No man’s land. I could Never blame anyone especially since it’s supposed to be fun and it’s not like we are playing for money
@markpfahler7299
@markpfahler7299 Жыл бұрын
How do you react to a player who is always hitting people at the net with point blank range and then laughs about it as he is positioning himself for the next shot? He just absolutely does it consistently and if can dodge it, 95% of his shots are out of play.
@Christina4758
@Christina4758 Жыл бұрын
I don't play with them.
@lindacole7393
@lindacole7393 Жыл бұрын
Give thanks that you know life's cardinal rule, " don't be a dick" : ))
@44jimcordell31
@44jimcordell31 Жыл бұрын
@@lindacole7393 That's in Paul's epistles almost constantly 🙂
@shelly4190
@shelly4190 Жыл бұрын
Work on your dodge
@markpfahler7299
@markpfahler7299 Жыл бұрын
@@44jimcordell31 I like the biblical response
@welovetennis9151
@welovetennis9151 9 ай бұрын
I love this video I been facing a lots of players in a club I just join and these people are mean players with nasty attitude…
@JoseChavez-ct1db
@JoseChavez-ct1db Жыл бұрын
I usually say "aww good try" when my partner messes up. Also usually like to say in as friendly manner as I can that the phrase "sorry* is not allowed on the court. Just a simple "next play" is enough. People tend to really like this way of conducting on the court.
@bill4482
@bill4482 Жыл бұрын
Good try is enough. I don’t believe you need the aww. It sounds condescending and I wouldn’t want any one of my partners to say that. Also, please don’t tell players how they should feel after missing a shot. There’s nothing wrong with saying sorry. Just telling players there’s no sorry in Pickleball is just ridiculous.
@boosebill
@boosebill Жыл бұрын
@@bill4482 so if your slam goes awry and hits someone in the face, you don't say you're sorry?
@zachleetch8138
@zachleetch8138 4 ай бұрын
If they aren’t rules, they aren’t rules… targeting weakness, hitting into the sun, distracting with unfriendly talk, or intentionally hitting the top of the net… Theses are all strategies one may use to win if they wish. I don’t use any of these personally, but I also don’t think we get to ban behaviors just because we don’t particularly like them
@Juan_rivera
@Juan_rivera 2 ай бұрын
Some of this will have to go out the window, like chest bumping and stuff like that, nothing wrong with celebrating a good play
@vickitownsend6527
@vickitownsend6527 10 ай бұрын
I am very new, just started playing in March’23 and took lessons for 4 Saturdays that month. I play at a few different places and very regularly. And I want to note, I have pretty thick skin. But..I am constantly being “schooled” by better players that I end up partnering with. (Don’t have a regular partner). But then the advice they give me, I notice they aren’t even doing themselves. I don’t keep strict numbers but I will semi keep track of how many errors these other know it all players make in a match and it’s usually about a 50/50. Everyone was a beginner at one time. Maybe they had jerks that schooled them so they think that is the way to educate other new players. I just wish they would keep things in proper perspective. It is supposed to be a fun game. I even had to tell a gal on Saturday morning to just chill out. Sigh… off my soap box now.
@cchemmes-seeseeart3948
@cchemmes-seeseeart3948 Ай бұрын
Love wins. I'd say best to let people know you are not enjoying lessons, & just want to play, before starting; rather than have a negative mind against them & not communicate. Communicating solves so much, better than hiding negative feelings. Have a blessed day.
@LaurieHSherrod
@LaurieHSherrod Жыл бұрын
In tennis, i was taught to say "bounce it" to my partner instead of out before the ball lands. That way i have not interfered with opponents if the ball lands in.
@aahyes9068
@aahyes9068 Жыл бұрын
yup! Only interfered with your partner ;) There are different schools of thought on this but I try to resist the temptation to call out instructions to my partners during play b/c a) they're not blind, b) they're not clueless, and c) the number of times people call out "leave it" or something similar and then either it lands in or the call throws off the partner who had an easy put-away and, rattled, they proceed to shank it because of the distraction is countless. Not sure why so many pickleball players seem unable to trust their partners' judgment during rallies but it's incredibly frequent and unique to pickleball. Almost never seen it happen in tennis or badminton.
@bill4482
@bill4482 Жыл бұрын
I find just telling my partner NO! works.
@LaurieHSherrod
@LaurieHSherrod Жыл бұрын
@@aahyes9068 I find advice from my partner helpful. I don't always take it - but nice to have a second opinion before making the decision...
@EQArpeggio
@EQArpeggio Жыл бұрын
As a coach in another sport, I try to get all my players to call IN/Out at every opportunity. Never even considered that my partner at PB might not appreciate the calls...
@briangeissinger4086
@briangeissinger4086 7 ай бұрын
Casual and many intermediates hit Balls that are going out. Called - "Out-Balls." It's a stupid thing to do. You already won the point, but you are giving your opponents another chance to win the point. If you think the ball has a possibilty to go out - let It! Try to have an 80% success rate on your outball calls - it's OK if you are wrong 20% of the time on outball calls. Not to worry! You are doing it right! 80% sucess is perfect for outballs.
@ginjavision4058
@ginjavision4058 11 ай бұрын
Good points. Next time maybe put pauses in the narration between each topic and add some kind of transition fx and typography to separate each topic.
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