Neville & Carragher debate the GREATEST English team of all time! | Monday Night Football

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Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher go head to head to decide who the GREATEST English football side of all time are. The duo duo used a three-season period for each team and awarded points for the trophies won during that time frame.
Who came out on top? Sir Alex Ferguson's treble winning side of the late 90s? Arsene Wenger's 'Invincibles'? Nottingham Forest's European champions under Brian Clough?
Who do YOU think the greatest side of all time are? Let us know in the comments below!
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@d347b2
@d347b2 4 жыл бұрын
28 years into the Premier League era, and Sky finally admit football existed before 1992.
@zafmo9829
@zafmo9829 4 жыл бұрын
Liverpool are about to catch up to leicester city in the premier league
@Alfairyman1
@Alfairyman1 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder who you support
@joebarnes100
@joebarnes100 4 жыл бұрын
@@Alfairyman1 either we don't talk about history at all or we talk about the whole of history. Can't just use a time to suit your agenda.
@ILOVEMINCEPIES
@ILOVEMINCEPIES 4 жыл бұрын
@Gabriel Afonso i do
@Don-107
@Don-107 4 жыл бұрын
The level of football went a lot more competitive after the introduction of premier league. So imo the United team of 07-08 and 99, mourinhos Chelsea and Arsenal invincibles would absolutely destroy the Liverpool side of the 70s.
@AlphaBeastHD
@AlphaBeastHD 4 жыл бұрын
40+ minute Sky Sports video with Gary and Jamie? Perfect.
@ryanflint934
@ryanflint934 4 жыл бұрын
🍿
@MannYSJ1080p
@MannYSJ1080p 4 жыл бұрын
If keane was there it would be perfect
@akmalrodzi4633
@akmalrodzi4633 4 жыл бұрын
@@MannYSJ1080p no Keane is terrible pundit, he too biased
@reginald8947
@reginald8947 4 жыл бұрын
@@akmalrodzi4633 he even admits it, "these were my teammates, so I'm loyal to them" when picking Liv+United side.
@MannYSJ1080p
@MannYSJ1080p 4 жыл бұрын
WOKE PIANOMAN just because he can’t be objective about his teammates doesn’t mean he’s a bad pundit. He hasn’t held back when it comes to criticising United in the last 10 years.
@TinyShoken
@TinyShoken 3 жыл бұрын
EA need to add classic/legendary teams in Fifa already. Imagine playing with the 99 United team vs The Invincibles
@adhamtohamy9263
@adhamtohamy9263 3 жыл бұрын
It is possible in pes
@Quazzi
@Quazzi 3 жыл бұрын
Issues with player likeness rights and sponsors on the old kits.
@nightpanda2109
@nightpanda2109 3 жыл бұрын
it is possible in nba too
@superhooch
@superhooch 3 жыл бұрын
Invincibles would get smashed
@dutchgiggler4824
@dutchgiggler4824 3 жыл бұрын
Like pes is it? Again lol, how do you buy anything from corrupt fifa, Roy Keane in pes already, Viera and no Keane wtf
@OggyStoop
@OggyStoop 3 жыл бұрын
As a Liverpool fan I have always had a huge respect for the things Gary Nevillle says - He sees that little extra when he mentions the extraordinary Leicester winning the league with less Tools and Armour - wise indeed and I must agree - that has to be one of or maybe even the greatest ever sporting acheivement
@K2edg
@K2edg 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly Leicester had no competition, they won it with 81 points 10 points clear of Arsenal with 71 points....... all the 'top four' teams finished in the 60's (very poor season indeed). The way i look at it the best teams win with some adversary (a title race) imho the 18-19 season was the two best clubs in recent history going head to head!! none of this win your home games and play for the point away (cough Arsenal...) this was a proper set up to win every game and the two teams won everything (all domestic trophies, Champions league and Club world cup) and finished 97 v's 98!! how many title races have you seen like that!!
@howwwyyy29
@howwwyyy29 Жыл бұрын
Even as a Liverpool fan I have to give the greatest football acheivement down to Cloughie winning the league straight from promotion and following it up with those European Cups-that'll never be equalled dare I say.
@gjones86
@gjones86 4 жыл бұрын
For context, this is the points system when applied to teams across Europe: 1. Ajax (1970-1973) - 30 pts 2. Barcelona (2008-2011) - 28 pts =3. Steaua Bucharest (1985-1988), Real Madrid (2015-2018) - 25 pts =4. Real Madrid (1956-1959), Celtic (1966-1969), Bayern Munich (1973-1976) - 24 pts =5. Real Madrid (1955-1958), Liverpool (1975-1978) - 23 pts =6. Real Madrid (1957-1960), Barcelona (2014-2017), Bayern Munich (2017-2020) - 22 pts =7. Inter (1963-1966) , PSV Eindhoven (1986-1989), Red Star Belgrade (1989-1992), Man Utd (2006-2009) - 21 pts =8. Benfica (1959-1962), Liverpool (1981-1984), AC Milan (1991-1994), Ajax (1993-1996), Juventus (1995-1998), Man Utd (1998-2001), Porto (2002-2005), Inter (2007-2010) - 20 pts =9. AC Milan (1987-1990), Real Madrid (1999-2002) - 19 pts =10. Nottingham Forest (1977-1980), Juventus (1983-1986), Barcelona (1990-1993), AC Milan (1992-1995) - 18 pts 11. Porto (1984-1987) - 16 pts =12. Stade de Reims (1957-1960), Marseille (1990-1993), AC Milan (2002-2005) - 15 pts
@User-ys5bn
@User-ys5bn 4 жыл бұрын
Grant Jones hats off to you. if you actually did the research and not just copy and paste 👌
@welshlad6427
@welshlad6427 4 жыл бұрын
Winning the Dutch league isn’t the same as winning the English, Spanish/ German leagues.
@User-ys5bn
@User-ys5bn 4 жыл бұрын
Fish Man Winning an English league isn’t the same as winning a Spanish or German one either. So you’re point is invalid
@welshlad6427
@welshlad6427 4 жыл бұрын
Mr Daniel Pudz RIP MUM I think any football fan with knowledge will understand that winning the leagues I mentioned are far harder than winning the Dutch league. This is why the Dutch league isn’t mentioned as a top league and the ones I mentioned get far more representation in Europe. A real waste of a comment and you look very stupid.
@gjones86
@gjones86 4 жыл бұрын
@@welshlad6427 The Dutch league isn't the same in recent times, but there was a time when the Dutch teams dominated in the early 70s. Feyenoord won the European Cup in 1970, but of course it's difficult to compare different leagues, let alone eras.
@rodrigolopes2565
@rodrigolopes2565 4 жыл бұрын
Carra and Gary really know their football, always a joy to listen to them talk.
@jayrodm643
@jayrodm643 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely better than Keane, who doesnt have anything insightful to say other than whatever he feels
@tommyrogers5298
@tommyrogers5298 4 жыл бұрын
@@jayrodm643 leave off Keane
@collydub1987
@collydub1987 4 жыл бұрын
@@jayrodm643 well, what else can he say other than what he thinks or feels??!!
@uteadawee51
@uteadawee51 4 жыл бұрын
@@jayrodm643 I'd rather hear Keane with his honest knowledge than these two specially Carragher's terrible accent
@minipower5
@minipower5 4 жыл бұрын
Keane is one of the smartest people in English football. He has strong opinions and is not afraid to say how things are especially against mourinho as man united manager and how moyes was treated
@harveyholmes9533
@harveyholmes9533 4 жыл бұрын
As a Leeds fan totally agree with what Carra said, the 3 year format is a little harsh on that Leeds team because really it stayed as one core unit for nearly a decade, even the 1975 European cup final team was very similar to the team from the mid 60s
@CDKE23
@CDKE23 3 жыл бұрын
Truly miss that 2008 side. Went to old Trafford when they played sporting. 1-0 down at half time.. Ronaldo free kick to win it in the 90th minute. Incredible
@PeterEhik
@PeterEhik 4 жыл бұрын
I really like how you guys tried to actually come up with a metric for measuring these teams as opposed to just going based on memory or opinion, really good stuff and Carra especially seemed to know a lot about the older teams, it was an incredible discussion about English football, hard pressed to find a better one anywhere.
@gerrysmith7031
@gerrysmith7031 4 жыл бұрын
best team and players in England ever 1966 brilliant on poor pitches good players now except they cannot get up from a fair tackle
@edwardtory1250
@edwardtory1250 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agreed. It was so good because they weren't comparing teams, but rather just discussing each one on their own merits in turn. And Carragher's memory and knowledge of football is encyclopedic.
@FrowningIke
@FrowningIke 3 жыл бұрын
Carra is a polymath when it comes to football.
@edwardtory1250
@edwardtory1250 3 жыл бұрын
@@FrowningIke a monomath you could say
@FrowningIke
@FrowningIke 3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardtory1250 You are totally correct. Honestly never knew that was a word.
@jacob.c979
@jacob.c979 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to say “ HEATED DEBATE”
@hqmusicproductionshqmusicp8882
@hqmusicproductionshqmusicp8882 4 жыл бұрын
There was no heated debate no one disagreed on anything.
@jacob.c979
@jacob.c979 4 жыл бұрын
H Q Music Productions H Q Music Productions mate it’s a joke because usually they say “HEATED” as clickbait
@DEVILHARSHA
@DEVILHARSHA 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@thomasandersen6719
@thomasandersen6719 4 жыл бұрын
@@hqmusicproductionshqmusicp8882 whoosh
@sithvsjedi9696
@sithvsjedi9696 3 жыл бұрын
Clough at Derby County was an insane achievement too. Got promoted from 2nd Division & following season he won the 1st Division with them too like he would later do at Forest. Got Derby to European Cup Semi too were they were robbed by the ref in Italy when they played Juventus in 1973
@wesplonke6714
@wesplonke6714 3 жыл бұрын
If anyone did anything like that these days they’d be hailed a king, clough is one of the best managers ever
@gumdeo
@gumdeo 2 жыл бұрын
Cloughie is a legend.
@alzi6166
@alzi6166 Жыл бұрын
Everyone gets robbed in Italy On the pitch and off
@patrickslingo1811
@patrickslingo1811 4 жыл бұрын
that achievement of Brian Clough and Peter Taylor with Nottingham Forest is incredible. they deserve to be in a category of their own.
@davewood1982
@davewood1982 4 жыл бұрын
MNF really is the best football show around. Knowledgable and compelling debates always. Must-watch TV. Wish they'd put them up on youtube for free all the time so i didn't have to use naughty streams to watch lol
@debsicus
@debsicus 4 жыл бұрын
Do you mind sharing your naughty streams so I can be naughty aswell?
@garysked7198
@garysked7198 4 жыл бұрын
@@debsicus lol
@shaycampbell1695
@shaycampbell1695 4 жыл бұрын
The kick off is better
@jaskaranuppal5356
@jaskaranuppal5356 4 жыл бұрын
get a sky box mate
@User-ys5bn
@User-ys5bn 4 жыл бұрын
Jaskaran Uppal agreed but it is a rip off tbf
@Yes123786
@Yes123786 4 жыл бұрын
Credit to Sky, this is a quality upload.
@Sheepwillbesheep
@Sheepwillbesheep 3 жыл бұрын
And then Covid 19 goes & FUCKS everything
@martinsabev6546
@martinsabev6546 3 жыл бұрын
And watching it now is still quality
@maverick6775
@maverick6775 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sheepwillbesheep tell them to stop eating weird sh*t smh
@hulk8384
@hulk8384 3 жыл бұрын
@@maverick6775 yes
@axeman14
@axeman14 4 жыл бұрын
After years of Andy Gray and Richard Keys we’re lucky to have Neville and Carra as proper pundits now
@andreotshudi
@andreotshudi Жыл бұрын
Yeah they are the good pundits to be honest the guys on ESPN are just for comedy
@geneberrocal3220
@geneberrocal3220 3 жыл бұрын
Came for the debate, stayed for the knowledge. The only league I regularly follow is La Liga and I sometimes watch highlights of the big games in England, Germany and Italy. I couldn't help but to listen intently to these two gentlemen speak about their home league's history, loved it. Much love from the States🇺🇸
@TheInvincibleH
@TheInvincibleH 2 жыл бұрын
nice
@Rocksteady365mac
@Rocksteady365mac Жыл бұрын
Unless you’re Spanish, why watch la liga?
@geneberrocal3220
@geneberrocal3220 Жыл бұрын
@@Rocksteady365mac it's a great league to watch. You can get the same excitement from watching any of the top 4 leagues. I consider Ligue 1 to be more on level with the Portuguese, Dutch and Russian leagues.
@jaihind2405
@jaihind2405 Жыл бұрын
@@Rocksteady365mac - without players from la liga, France, Germany, Italy etc pl is a joke
@faytachiMPS
@faytachiMPS Жыл бұрын
@@geneberrocal3220 Ligue 1 is the 5th best league in Europe comfortably
@IKingValerioI
@IKingValerioI 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see jamie and gary emphasising the importance of the UEFA CL / European Cup, something which was overlooked when people have been discussing city as the best ever.
@judyclarkson5887
@judyclarkson5887 4 жыл бұрын
Or United's. Knowing that they never quite dominated it in Europe just like Jamie's last punchline suggests. Haha
@wrighj
@wrighj 4 жыл бұрын
@@judyclarkson5887 facts lmao
@harryhutchison4687
@harryhutchison4687 4 жыл бұрын
European Cup is completely different to the UCL. Much easier to win but it was obviously much more difficult to get into.
@judyclarkson5887
@judyclarkson5887 4 жыл бұрын
@DP24s Music Nah.. Only for United fan i suppose. Almost everyone always regards Ucl as the 2nd most prestigious cup to win after World Cup. Which automatically makes it the most prestigious one in terms of club competitions.
@a.b8677
@a.b8677 4 жыл бұрын
Why do much obsession with Man City 😂😂
@Hieillua
@Hieillua 4 жыл бұрын
Jamie killed me with that ''but not abroad''. The way he said it and the way Gary looked afterwards with Jamie's satisfied face was perfect HAHAHAHA
@covikt674
@covikt674 4 жыл бұрын
Time stamp
@payuclark800
@payuclark800 4 жыл бұрын
Kiei Luahi that last bit made my day hahaha
@Hieillua
@Hieillua 4 жыл бұрын
@@covikt674 40:54
@julesakers3051
@julesakers3051 4 жыл бұрын
That made it another clear win for Liverpool.
@covikt674
@covikt674 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hieillua lol
@John1873--
@John1873-- 3 жыл бұрын
Carra's sly smile after saying "domination at home, but not abroad" hahaha
@Rayk76
@Rayk76 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂 a beautiful ending to the show
@gintama718
@gintama718 4 жыл бұрын
"Domination at home but not abroad" -Jamie Carragher, 2020 I could watch this part on repeat. 😂
@killarun4288
@killarun4288 4 жыл бұрын
I too watch it for the lols
@jsaiyed1738
@jsaiyed1738 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, you could tell jamie loved saying that.
@christianrayner913
@christianrayner913 3 жыл бұрын
how can carragher say that Gary has 2 champions league medals he has 1
@rpg5265
@rpg5265 3 жыл бұрын
@@christianrayner913 Its called banter u knob.
@VeeSeven700
@VeeSeven700 2 жыл бұрын
@@christianrayner913 because they're comparing United and Liverpool not Carragher and Neville. United did underperform in Europe given how good they were.
@SharkyHD
@SharkyHD 4 жыл бұрын
Derby relegation with has 11 points has to be the greatest of all time 😂
@defensiveadriano4341
@defensiveadriano4341 4 жыл бұрын
Would easily defeat 2020 Liverpool
@wojteksocha2002
@wojteksocha2002 4 жыл бұрын
11 points means they would finished at 9th place in this ranking, still not bad
@LeadintoGold11
@LeadintoGold11 4 жыл бұрын
Shayzar 147 would smack the overrated Liverpool 2020.
@parker-ii7fg
@parker-ii7fg 4 жыл бұрын
I think the mighty Huddersfield 18/19 team would run them close.
@judyclarkson5887
@judyclarkson5887 4 жыл бұрын
@@defensiveadriano4341 Good banter.. But quit exposing that you're some bitter barca fans might be a better move mate. Lol
@conorwatt1037
@conorwatt1037 4 жыл бұрын
The other team to win 3 leagues in a row was Huddersfield in the 1920s
@nadolfc8008
@nadolfc8008 4 жыл бұрын
Conor Watt definitely deserved a mention but it’s always post-war teams
@12kaka03
@12kaka03 4 жыл бұрын
Nado LFC unfortunately no European football
@leemorris2924
@leemorris2924 3 жыл бұрын
@@12kaka03 Simply because there was no European football at the time....
@12kaka03
@12kaka03 3 жыл бұрын
@@leemorris2924 I know that’s why I said unfortunately. They maybe could’ve won one
@leemorris2924
@leemorris2924 3 жыл бұрын
@@12kaka03 they would have dominated world football at that point.
@leew1598
@leew1598 3 жыл бұрын
39:50 Garry Neville was spot on there wasn't he?
@deeestuary
@deeestuary 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget that after winning the European cup in 1977 that Kevin Keegan left and Bob Paisley went out and bought Daglish, Souness and Hansen. So those three players were in both those great teams.
@cammyanderson286
@cammyanderson286 4 жыл бұрын
The way carra looks at Gary after that last line kills me 😂
@MISmotionimagesound
@MISmotionimagesound 4 жыл бұрын
hahahaha and Gary knows he's. He was so annoyed hahaha
@rh9226
@rh9226 4 жыл бұрын
best line and it shows what is true but hard for gary to swallow. liverpools domination in europe is what puts them many rungs above manchester uniteds greatest achievements as a club. YNWA
@MarpleSteve
@MarpleSteve 4 жыл бұрын
As a city fan you can’t argue against Carra on this one. Liverpool are top dogs in UK football history. No arguments.
@MarpleSteve
@MarpleSteve 3 жыл бұрын
Kaiden Naidoo haha looks like you’re on your way back since I wrote that!😕
@connorbutler5900
@connorbutler5900 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarpleSteve how?
@mrhussain9008
@mrhussain9008 4 жыл бұрын
Manchester United front three in 1967/68 European cup winning season were 3 Balon Dor winners. That’s crazy!
@GrandpaVince
@GrandpaVince 4 жыл бұрын
yes they were mate
@leskipbayless3280
@leskipbayless3280 4 жыл бұрын
Mohammed Hussain who were the 3 balon dor winners?
@Bulskee
@Bulskee 4 жыл бұрын
LeSkip Bayless George Best, Cantona and Emile Heskey
@WakaWaka2468
@WakaWaka2468 4 жыл бұрын
@@leskipbayless3280 Heimrich Himmler, Pete Best, and Jerry Seinfeld
@raphaelrau1728
@raphaelrau1728 4 жыл бұрын
Law was injured! Didn’t play.
@AS-cw9no
@AS-cw9no 3 жыл бұрын
Liverpool are the most successful English team--ever! It's quite fitting that they've chose one of the Liverpool sides as the best English team of all time. The 75-78 Liverpool side won 4 European trophies in 3 yrs (European Cup x2, Euefa Cup, & European Super Cup). That blows all other achievements out the water! YNWA!
@dkyt3161
@dkyt3161 Жыл бұрын
United are clear and the greatest club in the country as a Madrid fan
@AkshatSharma-uz7im
@AkshatSharma-uz7im 6 ай бұрын
​@@dkyt3161nobody cares for a Spanish fan opinion
@kennethmcgeough1991
@kennethmcgeough1991 2 жыл бұрын
Neville and carragher is pure gold together. Never could u imagine them to could come together I've seriously never seen two people with such knowledge of the game and how they bounce of each other
@thecanberean
@thecanberean 4 жыл бұрын
Gary's comment @22:30 was extremely telling. THE greatest managerial achievement ever.
@markwilliams5733
@markwilliams5733 4 жыл бұрын
Carra's dig at the end was class.
@patrickjohnson611
@patrickjohnson611 4 жыл бұрын
cheeky side glance
@Treeesmith
@Treeesmith 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Williams he's a biased fanboy first and foremost, and it aint based on reality How many years does a liverpool treble take? Bottlejob FC
@angryscouserinamerica2949
@angryscouserinamerica2949 4 жыл бұрын
@@Treeesmith Smeg head
@-The-Darkside
@-The-Darkside 3 жыл бұрын
An Everton supporter with less medals, I'm sure Nev will be fine
@jezzaus2124
@jezzaus2124 2 жыл бұрын
For Nottingham Forest to still be in 5th place after being out the top flight for over 20 years, is quite remarkable!
@djulesii7107
@djulesii7107 Жыл бұрын
Lol how about now
@leedavies3563
@leedavies3563 Жыл бұрын
@@djulesii7107 whooooosh
@darthpepe2994
@darthpepe2994 3 жыл бұрын
Does anybody still come back and watch this video? I genuinely enjoy this and stick it on from time to time and I'd love for Sky Sports to do a similar video on the greatest European side and/or World side based on their points system
@SamTheYorkist
@SamTheYorkist 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that both Man City and Liverpool of the last 3 seasons would be on the same amount of points if they won all available trophies shows how amazing both teams are
@colincampbell378
@colincampbell378 4 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see how good they would have been when playing on pitches during the winters of the 70s . In comparison they play on bowling greens today
@1Gwakie
@1Gwakie 4 жыл бұрын
No Offence, If any of the top 8 English teams won all trophies available to them over the last three seasons they would be right up there as the greatest- it doesn't apply to City & Liverpool Only. If Liverpool wins the Treble this year, they'll have 21 Points - puts them joined 2nd - not too shabby considering they won nothing in 2018 and finished 4th in the league. City, however, cannot win the league this season - but if they win the rest: CL, FA Cup & League Cup it will also push them to 21 Points.
@paulw6183
@paulw6183 4 жыл бұрын
And how poor the premier league has become.
@craigevans5842
@craigevans5842 4 жыл бұрын
I think the reason they didn't include the current sides is because the Premier league and the English top flight in general is the weakest competition wise its ever been
@riansillett2771
@riansillett2771 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulw6183 currently have the European and world club champions in the premier league so please... do tell how its become weak or poor?
@Yusuku
@Yusuku 4 жыл бұрын
40:52 LMAO (He was talking about Fergie's United not dominating Europe) Carraghers satisfied look and Neville's face after he said it was brilliant.
@IIIIIIIIIIIIIIPKIIIIIIIIIIIIII
@IIIIIIIIIIIIIIPKIIIIIIIIIIIIII 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing haha
@advireddy4776
@advireddy4776 3 жыл бұрын
If Roy Keane and Jamie did this, it would be so entertaining, with a fight.
@akadapper
@akadapper 2 жыл бұрын
It would have been Keane calling everyone crap and Jamie saying whatever he thinks would be the most popular choice
@jamieroe6325
@jamieroe6325 3 жыл бұрын
Even as a diehard Man U supporter I liked that reaction from Gary after Jamie had a little dig about Europe, well played
@vijojn7081
@vijojn7081 4 жыл бұрын
Funny that Jamie had the last laugh. "Domination at home... But not abroad." lol!
@brianpedron1541
@brianpedron1541 4 жыл бұрын
Yeh United reached 3 champions league final and beaten by the best team the world has ever seen. Liverpool only won champions league while other European gaints are shite. Won against spurs explains everything.
@Benjamin-sq9co
@Benjamin-sq9co 4 жыл бұрын
@@brianpedron1541 First of all, if we are talking about the 3 year/season period that they are using, then United only reached 2 UCL finals between 2007/2008 to 2009/2010 (3 seasons). To include the 2011 final you would have to stretch that to a 4 year/season period. Secondly, to say Liverpool could only win the UCL because other European giants were trash just goes to show how much of a hater you are. You only mention the 2019 final against Spurs (confirmation bias) to insinuate that Liverpool can only win CLs when other teams are doing badly but completely ignore the fact that Liverpool have won the UCL in the modern era against great sides. For example, in the 2005 final against an AC Milan team stacked with GREAT PLAYERS like Kaka, Maldini, Nesta, Jaap Stam, Pirlo, Seedorf, Cafu and Shevchenko. The bottom line is, what Liverpool have achieved in the last two years has been fantastic. Whether you like them or not, there is no denying that fact. P.S I am a Barcelona fan. Before you start assuming I'm a Liverpool fan
@brianpedron1541
@brianpedron1541 4 жыл бұрын
@@Benjamin-sq9co which of the English team has dominated home and abroad in 3 years duration?
@brianpedron1541
@brianpedron1541 4 жыл бұрын
@@Benjamin-sq9co 2005 Liverpool team was not even good. Why would anyone hate, what's point of hating. Jamie taking dig at Gary ". I'm not talking about before PL era.
@brianpedron1541
@brianpedron1541 4 жыл бұрын
@@Benjamin-sq9co By the way if you had any sense All other Europeans giants are struggling and are still building their teams. Barcelona heavily dependent on Messi still fixing sacking Managers looseing matches regularly. Madrid aging squad struggling without Ronaldo. Bayern still building their squad. Juve don't even count struggling with Sarriball. City is the only one comes close to challenge Liverpool. Same in PL it's a 2 horse race while others are trash including United. Perfect time for them, right moment perfectly build squad to dominate. Nothing taking away from them. Liverpool board did a great job. They deserve to win after so many years of trying.
@Mortarion6666
@Mortarion6666 4 жыл бұрын
Gary "The Invincibles Would Give You A Chance" Neville
@-The-Darkside
@-The-Darkside 3 жыл бұрын
in fairness they only won the league and were knocked out the cups, one of them being United, United also ended the invincible run.
@theblackswordsman9951
@theblackswordsman9951 3 жыл бұрын
Norm Macdonald In one of the worst officiated games in football history.
@chrisjdgrady
@chrisjdgrady 3 жыл бұрын
@@-The-Darkside United got lucky as hell to end that run, probably was something shady involved. Same with them not winning the CL.
@gm2407
@gm2407 2 жыл бұрын
@@malcolmgerald It was top 2 in the champions league that year as it had changed for 1997-98 season, Newcastle played that year. In 1996-97 Man United made the semis and got knocked out by Dortmund who won that year. In 1997-98 despite injuries they made the quarters. 1999 was still a great achievement. I would say Arsenal pushed United all that year and made them perform. It kept the squad focused in all domestic competitions and that helped keep momentum in big European games. Domestic football also seemed to be more competative as the points spread was not so far from top to bottom. You dont see that so much now. The worst teams struggle to get 20 points and the top teams break 80 points as a matter of course.
@nadadur
@nadadur 3 жыл бұрын
Who’s here after 2019/20 Liverpool have failed to win the UCL, FA Cup, League Cup, and then bottled their invincible record against Watford, got bantered for so long through the lockdown, celebrated so much when they realised football was coming back, celebrated when they finally won the Prem, came back and drew to Everton, lost 4-0 to city, drew against Burnley and recently lost 2-1 to Arsenal and are now probably not even considered one of the top 2 or 3 PL teams?
@peendunk9370
@peendunk9370 3 жыл бұрын
You’re so petty😂😂
@moluther2826
@moluther2826 3 жыл бұрын
They're the earliest champions.
@abadinrani3887
@abadinrani3887 4 жыл бұрын
Gary refusing to make eye contact with Jamie at the end after that "but not abroad" dig... 😂😂😂 I love these 2. I hope we get to see them together on this show for many, many years to come! Love their insight - almost as much as I love their banter!
@youngstars4144
@youngstars4144 3 жыл бұрын
These two are the best duo hands down! No-one comes close. Can't believe Neville missed a trick at the end though, when he failed to mention the fact that United 2006-2009 holds the record for the longest unbeaten run in UCL history. If the roles were reversed, no way Jamie passes up the chance to use it😂😂
@danielbooth5035
@danielbooth5035 8 ай бұрын
it looks like they had a back and forth befre the video began, the way Jamie looks over.
@sib1930
@sib1930 5 ай бұрын
​@@youngstars4144Means nothing if you don't win the trophy 😂
@youngstars4144
@youngstars4144 5 ай бұрын
​@@sib1930 Well they did win, didn't they?
@moltencicada
@moltencicada 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, But could they do it on a cold rainy night in stoke?
@GrandpaVince
@GrandpaVince 4 жыл бұрын
I think they could mate
@judyclarkson5887
@judyclarkson5887 4 жыл бұрын
@@GrandpaVince Not with Rory Delap's throws and all of those monsters in penalty box mate.
@darthpepe2994
@darthpepe2994 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Stoke where still in English football between the 1960s-2000s lol
@EnglishHuscarl
@EnglishHuscarl 4 жыл бұрын
Have you seen Stoke lately? My local pub team could.
@angryscouserinamerica2949
@angryscouserinamerica2949 4 жыл бұрын
What Stoke? Relegation Kings of English football? Just leave it, lad.
@Zv_r
@Zv_r 4 жыл бұрын
For anyone interested the Wolves team of 1957-58, 58-59, 59-60 (the one they referenced) would have scored 11 points due to them winning back-to-back League titles inn 1957-58 (4 points) and 58-59 (4 points) and coming runners up in the league in 59-60 (1 point) and also winning the FA Cup (2 points). These 11 points would of placed them 8th. Think its a fair mention of how good this team was and would be the earliest on the list.
@chrisadlc1
@chrisadlc1 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe Gary didn’t elaborate on the Busby Babes, a homegrown very young side full of England internationals they won leagues together and reached the semis of the EC before dying so young. Especially Duncan Edwards who was 21 when he died in Munich, Sir Bobby who is probably England’s greatest ever said he’s the best player he’s ever seen. The way Sir Matt was able to come back and build a whole new team was incredible
@leedavies3563
@leedavies3563 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@bordaz1
@bordaz1 Жыл бұрын
He tried to elaborate on them, but doesn't know enough and probably didn't consult the notes enough! What he SHOULD have elaborated on was the United side that won the EC in 68 - the name "George Best" was not even mentioned...how can I take this commentary seriously?
@sib1930
@sib1930 5 ай бұрын
Not that deep pal
@BrainGrapes
@BrainGrapes 4 жыл бұрын
Chelsea: 2009/10 - 2010-11 - 2011-12 14 points Champions league win 2011-12 Premier league win 2009-10 Fa cup win 2009-10, 2011-12 Premier league 2nd place 2010-11
@Kaiser17932
@Kaiser17932 4 жыл бұрын
When I saw Chelsea 04-05 06-07..I thought "O,they're gonna have 2 Chelsea teams on their list"..thinking this was a guarantee to be there..and so many English League records broken in and around that Carlo Ancelotti era
@M-E_123
@M-E_123 4 жыл бұрын
It's mad when you look at the 2 Liverpool Teams included in this - during the "transitional period" in between the 76-78 & 82-84 sides there was another 3 year run where they won: 78-79 - League Title 79-80 - League Title 80-81 - European Cup and League Cup Which gives 14 points using the system in this video, which is enough to get to sixth on the list. Dalglish team in the 80's can get quite high as well, depending on how you pick the 3 years. Man Utd have a couple of similar "lesser teams" during the Ferguson period that could finish quite high too: 91-92 - League Cup & Second in the League 92-93 - League Title 93-94 - League Title and FA Cup And 95-96 - League Title and FA Cup 96-97 - League Title And either year before or after they finished Second in the League. If they went with a top 20 instead you'd probably have close to half the teams coming from Liverpool and Utd (and the majority of them in the top 10).
@darthpepe2994
@darthpepe2994 3 жыл бұрын
I think they were being generous to everybody else by not picking repeated Liverpool & United sides because we all know in reality those 2 clubs dominated for decades, not years.
@gumdeo
@gumdeo 2 жыл бұрын
Hansen, Souness, Dalglish, Rush. What amazing players they had...
@gerwulfthered154
@gerwulfthered154 2 жыл бұрын
@@gumdeo Terry Mcdermott, Ray Kennedy. In todays market 60 million pound players easy.
@jamesrennie92
@jamesrennie92 2 жыл бұрын
And the Cup Winner's Cup in 1991 for United, if that first period was over three years. The footage of Hughes smashing that ball against Barcelona makes me smile. Amazing stuff.
@vishrutsrivastava6826
@vishrutsrivastava6826 4 жыл бұрын
How does the title not have 'HEATED ARGUEMNT' in it?
@stodgycaesar6164
@stodgycaesar6164 4 жыл бұрын
Even when it's a normal conversation, HEATED ARGUMENT!
@johnm001
@johnm001 4 жыл бұрын
Because Roy needed a night off
@hqmusicproductionshqmusicp8882
@hqmusicproductionshqmusicp8882 4 жыл бұрын
Because there was no heated debate they agreed on everything.
@mohithellan4649
@mohithellan4649 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@robwightman6357
@robwightman6357 4 жыл бұрын
Probably because they dont know what an arguemnt is
@Robedon
@Robedon 2 жыл бұрын
Joe Mercer/Malcom Allison Man City Era. 1967-68 League 4pts 1968-69 FA Cup 2pts 1969-70 European Cup Winners Cup and League Cup 4pts (first team to achieve domestic and European double of any kind) 10pts total Level with Villa and Busby United knocking Leeds out of the top 12 Anyone would think Sky wants to keep pretending City didn't exist before 2008....
@leedavies3563
@leedavies3563 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 not good enough to make it
@Robedon
@Robedon Жыл бұрын
@@leedavies3563 we don't want to hear what your partner tells you... 😆
@leedavies3563
@leedavies3563 Жыл бұрын
@@Robedon funny from a packi eh, smell you from here.
@Robedon
@Robedon Жыл бұрын
@@leedavies3563 White and from Gorton you prat. Maybe supporting the Merchandising of a disater to get those plastic fans you call 'net spend' damaged your brain as well as your soul. Not to mention the casual racism. When scouseland reaches the 20th century why don't you have a party...
@sib1930
@sib1930 Жыл бұрын
@@leedavies3563 Very classy mate. Can't even spell it. Ignorant mug
@sithvsjedi9696
@sithvsjedi9696 3 жыл бұрын
Great listening to these two discuss this. They mention Arsenal (1930's), Liverpool (1980's) & Man Utd (twice; 1990's & 2000's) being the only English top flight teams to win three league titles in a row. That is incorrect. There has been four & In the 1920's Huddersfield won three in a row (1924,1925 & 1926). 😊👍
@nozislam
@nozislam 2 жыл бұрын
Herbert Chapman was manager at Arsenal and Huddersfield wasn't he?
@sithvsjedi9696
@sithvsjedi9696 Жыл бұрын
He was. He won the 1924 & 1925 titles. 1926 was by Cecil Parker who funnily enough finished 1st above Herbert Chapman's Arsenal 😎
@PradeepPurple
@PradeepPurple 4 жыл бұрын
Carra with the cheeky "Domination at home...but not abroad" and then the sly smile...good bantz
@Bobby.2000
@Bobby.2000 4 жыл бұрын
It is good bantz to be fair. But playing in the Premier league, with how competitive it is and champions league at the same time, it's almost impossible to win both. United are the only English team to even get to a champions league final and win the Premier league in the same season. All 4 UCL finals (winning 2) they got to, they won the league the same year. But Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham and Liverpool all reached UCL finals, (Chelsea and Liverpool won it) but never won the league in the same season. No other team that's won the Premier league, ever won the UCL in the same year. Let alone got to the final. It's incredibly difficult. So as much as a English side could have in the modern game, United did. But I think the main problem is Ferguson always wanted the league title.
@StevO3
@StevO3 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bobby.2000 you make more money out from winning the league so I don't blame him.
@arunmathew2805
@arunmathew2805 4 жыл бұрын
Bob paisley is the most underrated manager in world football and its sad to admit even in Liverpool fan circles he is underrated....
@GrandpaVince
@GrandpaVince 4 жыл бұрын
he was a great man ynwa
@woodsmen9844
@woodsmen9844 4 жыл бұрын
He's in Bill Shankly's shadow. Paisley is one of the greatest ever. 20 trophies in 9 years which includes 3 Champions League titles.
@arunmathew2805
@arunmathew2805 4 жыл бұрын
@@woodsmen9844 absolutely, in modern era mangers are gauged against their predecessors success while in the case of paisely he was gauged against the charisma of shankely...
@waz3128
@waz3128 3 жыл бұрын
Such a shame that the Liverpool 87/88-89/90 team didn't make the cut because of the European ban. Barnes / Beardsley / Aldridge possibly the best striking partnership of all time
@fraz6354
@fraz6354 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they were a brilliant team.
@NotSoRandom_
@NotSoRandom_ Жыл бұрын
UEFA hate the English, even if Liverpool should’ve been banned for max 2 years, it was hardly necessary to ban every English team
@sib1930
@sib1930 5 ай бұрын
Yes that team has to be there
@williamfranzen8548
@williamfranzen8548 6 ай бұрын
Coming back to this video in 2023, Pep's Man City team from 2020/21 - 2022/23 would be top of the list with 23 points. 20/21: League win +4, League cup +1, European cup runner's up +2 = 7 21/22: League win +4 = 4 22/23: European cup win +5, League win +4, FA Cup +2, UEFA Super Cup +1 = 12 7+4+12 = 23 When you then factor in that City also won the league in 2 out of the 3 prior seasons (2017/18, 2018/19), with one of those teams breaking the record for most ever points in a season (100), you realize that this is likely the greatest club team England has ever seen.
@Chriswatney
@Chriswatney 4 жыл бұрын
Dalglish’ Liverpool of 87,88 & 89 should be in this... clearly. But the European ban at the time means they don’t get the “points” debated in this... crazy. It was arguably the greatest side ever.
@callumj7370
@callumj7370 4 жыл бұрын
The fact is any team nowadays would run most older teams into the ground from the simple fact that they have history on their side tactically plus advancement in medicine and sports science.
@ronanburke2920
@ronanburke2920 4 жыл бұрын
Ita about what they achieved in their tome not comparing teams of today to teams of then
@lotuseater7247
@lotuseater7247 4 жыл бұрын
How old are you?
@dave93x
@dave93x 4 жыл бұрын
It'd somewhat depend on which era that dream match would take place. It's a softer, almost no contact game now. If a defender's little toenail touches an attacker's leg during a tackle, the player collapses and VAR or the ruleset says it's a foul. Can you imagine Raheem Sterling playing in the FA Cup, even in the 90's? Rougher, tougher play style, looser ruleset and ripped up pitches. Yo-yo teams weren't able to dip into TV funds back then to maintain their surfaces. If ANY last generation backwards team on this list played against current day Liverpool or the unplayable City in today's day and age obviously they'd be run off the pitch and half the team would be booked. It wouldn't even be close. It'd be a bit closer if they went back in time and played, though.
@jakeclough8090
@jakeclough8090 4 жыл бұрын
The players still possess the same quality. Maybe more as you didn’t have to be as dedicated and as athletic as you do now. If you put those players in to the modern game and allowed them to get fitter, they’d be just as good or better
@hamishdrake6166
@hamishdrake6166 4 жыл бұрын
Hard to out run anyone, when you're being kicked into the stands.
@SV-yo6nq
@SV-yo6nq 3 жыл бұрын
3:03 the looks on their faces after jamie drops the 'they never did it in europe' is priceless lmao
@king_mamoo
@king_mamoo 4 жыл бұрын
"Doesn't say how many points on the medal" no, but you do get a gold trophy for being unbeaten.
@lostella81
@lostella81 4 жыл бұрын
Jamie with that parting shot 🤣😂
@JamesSmith-bl6rd
@JamesSmith-bl6rd 4 жыл бұрын
Watching Everton in the 80,s made me fall in love with football. Southall, lineker, gray, Reid, Sharp, sheedy. Some team. Probably the best team in Europe from 85 to 87, but we'll never know.
@lfcx6kingseuropevirgilno454
@lfcx6kingseuropevirgilno454 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@JamesSmith-bl6rd
@JamesSmith-bl6rd 4 жыл бұрын
@It is what it is At least 2. Just because some other team got Everton banned at their peak. Everton are the only side not able to compete for the European cup in all this list during their best era.
@JamesSmith-bl6rd
@JamesSmith-bl6rd 4 жыл бұрын
@It is what it is Tooo long pal.🙈
@_kesh_2874
@_kesh_2874 4 жыл бұрын
It is what it is that could of changed the history of that club
@michaelsviews9851
@michaelsviews9851 4 жыл бұрын
Liverpool done the double in '86, you weren't even the best team in Liverpool, you just had a team that could compete with Liverpool, that's all.....
@Urlocallordandsavior
@Urlocallordandsavior Жыл бұрын
Pre-1997, I would agree with EC 5 points and League 4 points, however nowadays I would probably make both equal since Champions League now is basically a combination of EC/UEFA Cup (with 2-4 places added from UEFA Cup, for all that important revenue). I would also bump up the FA/League Cups by a point (especially pre-2000). Todays’ Man City/Liverpool dominance (aside from fitness) can’t beat the level of competitiveness of the 90s (when you had teams like Man United, Arsenal, Leeds, Blackburn, Liverpool, Aston Villa, Norwich, Newcastle, and Tottenham all competiting for the title).
@nathansaldanha5603
@nathansaldanha5603 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most interesting videos with Gary and Jamie!!!
@DaniBoi1da
@DaniBoi1da 4 жыл бұрын
Carragher’s football knowledge is immense
@josephlau4888
@josephlau4888 2 жыл бұрын
He probably works better as a pundit than a defender.
@Kloppsserialbottlers
@Kloppsserialbottlers 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephlau4888 well we was shite
@beatsboxdrebeats7512
@beatsboxdrebeats7512 4 жыл бұрын
Mourinho’s Chelsea team of 04/05 which only conceded 15 goals is much better than Pep’s City teams or even this Liverpool team. But the recent merchants at it again 🤷‍♂️🙄
@nabz5538
@nabz5538 4 жыл бұрын
No it isn't.
@Joseph-mp5fl
@Joseph-mp5fl 4 жыл бұрын
Less points tho...
@Pubhooligan74
@Pubhooligan74 4 жыл бұрын
Man United 1999 would destroy the mercenaries FC
@nabz5538
@nabz5538 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pubhooligan74 Chelsea 04/05 are better than that treble winning team.
@mikeluhg5645
@mikeluhg5645 4 жыл бұрын
Beatsboxdre Beats we have the best team
@kungfustu2
@kungfustu2 4 жыл бұрын
I love that they get nostalgic about other teams, and times
@g.n.b9197
@g.n.b9197 2 жыл бұрын
This was a good watch, funny how these two have such chemistry as colleges with their history as rivals... Growth is evident if ever🙌🏾
@stevenmckenzie7237
@stevenmckenzie7237 4 жыл бұрын
The Liverpool team from 87 to 90 was pretty good but English teams were banned from European competition at the time.
@stevenmckenzie7237
@stevenmckenzie7237 4 жыл бұрын
Yea, were the best two English teams in that three years. Not playing in Europe at that time though meant that their squads were smaller.
@mattvanemden7573
@mattvanemden7573 4 жыл бұрын
@marble hall Highbury grancanyon1970 Liverpool got English teams banned? It was an accident caused by trouble between two sets of fans. Only Liverpool and the English were punished by a corrupt and English-hating UEFA. Nothing has changed with UEFA still corrupt as ever and favouring Spanish teams in general. Liverpool were dominating Europe at the time and had done for years. A chance to ban them and they took it. It was a horrible tragedy caused by an accident that resulted from crowd trouble between Juventus and Liverpool fans. I have spoken to those who were there on the night. Both groups of fans involved were responsible just as much as eachother. The wall collapsed as a result of both sets of fans attempting to scale it. Not JUST Liverpool fans. It also killed Liverpool supporters. Not just Juventus supporters. Although, by bad fortune it happened to collapse more-so towards the Juventus fans. Blaming "Liverpool" is extremely ignorant and childish.
@birkett_6584
@birkett_6584 3 жыл бұрын
Matt Van Emden na apparantly we are “murderers”
@sammy-he3fq
@sammy-he3fq 4 жыл бұрын
nottingham forest 🔥🔥
@dilksjoel
@dilksjoel 3 жыл бұрын
Magic
@KOS00790
@KOS00790 3 жыл бұрын
FACTS. Should be at the top of the list, hands down...unbelievable achievement
@gson6867
@gson6867 3 жыл бұрын
Carragher mentioned that the three best Liverpool players were Dalgliesh, Souness and Hansen all Scottish.
@kevinwilliams1421
@kevinwilliams1421 3 жыл бұрын
They are in my ultimate Liverpool team no doubt
@gson6867
@gson6867 3 жыл бұрын
And mine, I think the late 70s side as it was the team I grew up with.
@shredder9536
@shredder9536 4 жыл бұрын
40:52 Carra wraps it up and smirks while Gary stares directly into the camera 😂😂😂
@ahelm3008
@ahelm3008 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Brian Clough
@benbim540
@benbim540 3 жыл бұрын
the most astonishing achievement in the history of football by a mile. if they did it in a film u would say nah to far fetched.
@IKingValerioI
@IKingValerioI 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to see how the table would look over a 4 year period
@gshiretv
@gshiretv 4 жыл бұрын
Peter I agree, as a magpie I’m obviously biased but “greatest team of all time” is clickbait” without the leagues greatest striker, if he didn’t make carra n Phil look so foolish week in week out it might’ve been a different table 😂
@Derekstefan
@Derekstefan 4 жыл бұрын
@@gshiretv I've sat here for 5 minutes trying to understand your comment and I still don't get it. What does Alan Shearer have to do with any of this? He didn't achieve enough by the criteria to be in one of those top 12 teams plus he never played for any of the clubs regardless of era.
@hinzjaii
@hinzjaii 4 жыл бұрын
What about 20-year period
@Sleepless4Life
@Sleepless4Life 4 жыл бұрын
@@Derekstefan Don't you know? We're talking about individual greatness here! Team achievements are overrated!
@IKingValerioI
@IKingValerioI 4 жыл бұрын
@@hinzjaii well all of the players would be different so that wouldn't tell you anything about the best team. that'd be an indication of the best overall club, I suppose.
@DutchDixon94
@DutchDixon94 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent episode. Some brilliant football teams in that list. Would love to see Sky do an episode of best European teams using the same points system. That would be interesting!
@micah7064
@micah7064 4 жыл бұрын
Good Show. I like the discussion. Very well done!
@mehdi2k9
@mehdi2k9 4 жыл бұрын
“At home but NOT ABROAD” ....Yes Carra
@evil4d
@evil4d 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, what a way to finish it and Neville's face had me in stitches, nothing he could say!
@jimipurple123
@jimipurple123 4 жыл бұрын
Very true. United never dominated in europe. Real Madrid did. Milan did
@endlessmotion2255
@endlessmotion2255 4 жыл бұрын
It's a fair point, Liverpool had more dominance in Europe 40-50 years ago but I feel like sometimes people forget Utd were in three Champions League finals between 2008 and 2011. The only thing stopping Fergie from taking four European cups instead of two, was the greatest club side in modern history in Pep's Barcelona. No arguing Liverpool's achievements in Europe though. Utd the better club domestically. Shows how far out in front these two clubs are though from City, Chelsea etc.
@cargoshipgaming
@cargoshipgaming 3 жыл бұрын
Manchester United are the greatest football club of all time.
@Murdocke89
@Murdocke89 4 жыл бұрын
The true list of the big clubs in England
@Jaheeem
@Jaheeem 3 жыл бұрын
Stfu
@massimodellow2527
@massimodellow2527 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jaheeem city fan😂
@stephenjones9153
@stephenjones9153 3 жыл бұрын
It will be interesting to see how things change after 2020/21. Great to see Everton getting off to a flying start, Top of the League after 3 wins. No ime not an Everton fan but great to see.
@DannyWonder
@DannyWonder 4 жыл бұрын
This was so good. Really interesting!!!
@Mr2Penny
@Mr2Penny 4 жыл бұрын
I like how Gary Neville nearly called Jürgen klopps name before mentioning pep guardiola at the beginning of this video, he looked like he was about to throw up and have a stroke 😂
@mombaliser
@mombaliser 4 жыл бұрын
Any chance you could do this for teams all over Europe?
@sanni8464
@sanni8464 4 жыл бұрын
Number 1.Real Madrid
@deangreen2567
@deangreen2567 4 жыл бұрын
Joseph McCann Easy. Real Madrid winning 4 champions leagues in 5 years. Best team ever.
@WakaWaka2468
@WakaWaka2468 4 жыл бұрын
99 Man United and 2011 Barcelona
@mombaliser
@mombaliser 4 жыл бұрын
Real madrid 15 to 18 real madrid won 3 champions league and 1 la life, so 19 points. Real madrid from 55 to 58 won 3 european cups and 2 la Ligas meaning the would have 23 points in this metric Manchester united 99 is not even the best english team so I'm not even going to entertain that soz
@deangreen2567
@deangreen2567 4 жыл бұрын
Joseph McCann The Real Madrid side of 15-18 won 3 UCLs (15 points) won one La Liga (4 points), came runner up in the league once (1 point) won one supercopa de espana in 2017 (1 point) and won a Eufa super cup in 2017 (1 point). They also won two Club World Cups in 17 and 18 (2 points): Thus totalling 24 points. That’s just a quick calculation it could well be more.
@pompeyjack2057
@pompeyjack2057 3 жыл бұрын
How have I just seen this , elite level content.
@blue1984
@blue1984 4 жыл бұрын
Quality debate. Love Carragher and Neville always talking a good game.
@bobb3261
@bobb3261 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic watch finished with a great smirk from Carra 😂
@johnm001
@johnm001 4 жыл бұрын
The original rehearsal had Roy and Jamie, it was binned after Roys loyalty to his team mates made the exercise impossible
@JC-pn7ji
@JC-pn7ji 4 жыл бұрын
John M Keane would have had Man Utd in every position 😂
@TrequartistaFM
@TrequartistaFM 3 жыл бұрын
JC nah he would have had Forest top. He loved Clough
@BeastFifaVideos99
@BeastFifaVideos99 4 жыл бұрын
this is one of the greatest football punditry/debate videos i've ever watched. 2 fantastic pundits talking passionately about the best teams in english football. fair play sky sports/mnf you've smashed it here
@MarkPitsmoorOwl
@MarkPitsmoorOwl 2 жыл бұрын
When Tottenham Hotspur WON the league in 1961 SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY had a great team who came in 2nd place that season and SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY also got to Both Major Cup Finals in 1993 losing both close games to Arsenal after they scored a last minute Goal at the end of extra time just before a pen shoot out Plus SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY also Won the League cup in 1991 against Man Utd. Hirst, Sheridan, Francis, Palmer, Roland Nielson. Woods, Waddle, Viv Anderson, was a great SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY team who came 3rd in 1992/93 season
@holdfast453
@holdfast453 2 жыл бұрын
Owls nostalgia … young Viv Anderson of ten years before at Forest was the better version of him, and Chris Waddle with the mane was better than the Chris Waddle without the mane. Watched both Arsenal games at the old Wembley - FA cup classic
@tmbbdil
@tmbbdil 4 жыл бұрын
It's interesting when Jamie talks at the end about Sir Alex not dominating abroad to remember that no team in that era dominated abroad in that era (from about the mid 90s to 2010 when United dominated the league). Perhaps the only team that "dominated" in that era were Juventus who reached 3 consecutive finals but lost 2. Real Madrid and Barcelona reached 3 finals (and won all) in a 15 year period. Manchester United and AC Milan reached 3 finals and won 2. It was a really competitive time with some truly exceptional teams.
@caferustwat
@caferustwat 4 жыл бұрын
Real won three times in five seasons. Also Ajax, coming from a smaller league to reach two finals and a semi final in a row, is also quite the achievement.
@tmbbdil
@tmbbdil 4 жыл бұрын
But Ajax won it only once though. So it's not dominantion by the standards Gary and Jamie set.
@rob8311
@rob8311 4 жыл бұрын
Utd also won a Cup Winners Cup in the 90s with Ferguson
@robertwilcocks1334
@robertwilcocks1334 4 жыл бұрын
awesome discussion. Love football!
@DeusNyika
@DeusNyika 4 жыл бұрын
Probably the best video I've seen from Sky Sports. Fair and quality analysis
@TheFBATruth
@TheFBATruth 4 жыл бұрын
“Liverpool could win the treble this year” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@ftqandtheuda5955
@ftqandtheuda5955 4 жыл бұрын
SouR_AiM tecnicly they could still win a treble if prem comes there way after football is returend like prem cwc and super cup but that would be right shite
@pabloescobar6104
@pabloescobar6104 4 жыл бұрын
@@ftqandtheuda5955 thata not a treble mate😂😂
@ftqandtheuda5955
@ftqandtheuda5955 4 жыл бұрын
Pablo Escobar its three trophies its a treble
@ftqandtheuda5955
@ftqandtheuda5955 4 жыл бұрын
Pablo Escobar i dont support liverpool im just saying
@cleehomes
@cleehomes 4 жыл бұрын
@@ftqandtheuda5955 "The Treble" is the EPL, FA Cup and CL!!!
@DustyBrah
@DustyBrah 4 жыл бұрын
In the criteria they should have given bonus points like 1pt for a League and FA Cup/League Cup double. 2pts for a League and CL double 3pts for a treble etc
@billtomo
@billtomo 4 жыл бұрын
Dusty Brah and a point for retaining any of them.
@georgieboy2925
@georgieboy2925 3 жыл бұрын
Points system my arse who thinks of these ways of finding out who is the best team working with different tools i.e. lighter boots lighter ball diets pich conditions technology rules need i go on game changes all the time so no equality in different era's
@toddy505
@toddy505 4 жыл бұрын
Bill Shankly laid the foundations of that great Liverpool team.
@fraz6354
@fraz6354 4 жыл бұрын
But Paisley took them to another level.
@razer0072073
@razer0072073 4 жыл бұрын
@@fraz6354 Klopp resurrected Liverpool back from the dead.
@akshatbetala2813
@akshatbetala2813 3 жыл бұрын
@@razer0072073 he has to retain the league. That will be his challenge now. It would be a great achievement cause Liverpool can't spend like City, United or Chelsea
@darthpepe2994
@darthpepe2994 3 жыл бұрын
@@akshatbetala2813 it's not all about money, you have to spend it right. Look at United. City have also spent £400m on defenders and look how shambolic their defence is.
@akshatbetala2813
@akshatbetala2813 3 жыл бұрын
@@darthpepe2994 mate I am praising Klopp the work he has done
@justgideon
@justgideon Жыл бұрын
Love that last second look by Jamie towards Gary and Gary's reaction right after, after what Jamie says about Alex Ferguson in those last moments of the video lol
@jamiecollins6832
@jamiecollins6832 3 жыл бұрын
I can't express how good these type of vids r. Cara and nev r brill
@tobyhellewell5981
@tobyhellewell5981 4 жыл бұрын
As a United fan, it pains me to say that this current Liverpool team could go down as one of the greatest of all time. When they win the premier league, and if they can add another CL, they’ll undoubtedly be one of the greats. Not to mention they came second with 97 points last season. Henderson has to go down as being one of the great captains ever as well, as much as we can’t admit it
@splinter360
@splinter360 4 жыл бұрын
An honest one. I tip my hat.
@toxicmegacunt4961
@toxicmegacunt4961 4 жыл бұрын
Toby Hellewell that’s bait
@tobyhellewell5981
@tobyhellewell5981 4 жыл бұрын
wildebest nah you’re wrong. I think he’s an ordinary player still but just by the amount of trophies he’s going to have to his name, you can’t deny him as one of the greats
@---rg3jh
@---rg3jh 4 жыл бұрын
I have an idea: Sky should put Carragher, Neville and Keane in an escape room, film the whole thing and just see what happens
@adamphillip5305
@adamphillip5305 4 жыл бұрын
Keane would eat them
@manufan1044
@manufan1044 3 жыл бұрын
watching gary n jamie back in the day fighting in games , wouldnt of thought they would be on sky together 10 years later lol
@benbim540
@benbim540 3 жыл бұрын
that liverpool side in 3rd actually won the European cup in 1981 and 1984 plus 3 league titles
@edmc475
@edmc475 4 жыл бұрын
The Liverpool team from this year will be talked about in 20 years time as the best premier league of all time stats don’t lie
@LeadintoGold11
@LeadintoGold11 4 жыл бұрын
Edm C 😂😂😂🤣👋👋👋😂🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@GrandpaVince
@GrandpaVince 4 жыл бұрын
I agree mate ynwa
@edmc475
@edmc475 4 жыл бұрын
Sir Mason Greenwood - Ballon D’Or winner 2025 look of the state of your name enjoy the europa league on thursday mate 😂😂😂
@aaronryan8979
@aaronryan8979 4 жыл бұрын
Arsenal invincibles will always be the best for me but there definitely going to be up there
@GrandpaVince
@GrandpaVince 4 жыл бұрын
@@aaronryan8979 I agree mate goonies goonies goonies
@andrehoudelot1011
@andrehoudelot1011 4 жыл бұрын
I WANT TO HAVE THAT JOB. ITS AMAZING HOW THIS GUYS TALK ABOUT FOOTBALL
@tashrif46
@tashrif46 4 жыл бұрын
26:24 probably the best side in English top flight history was that Liverpool side of 1983/84
@akshatbetala2813
@akshatbetala2813 3 жыл бұрын
united 08 were better
@tashrif46
@tashrif46 3 жыл бұрын
@@akshatbetala2813 probably because you haven't seen any other English sides
@akshatbetala2813
@akshatbetala2813 3 жыл бұрын
@@tashrif46 I have watched football since 1979
@tashrif46
@tashrif46 3 жыл бұрын
@@akshatbetala2813 alright. Then you should know sir.
@akshatbetala2813
@akshatbetala2813 3 жыл бұрын
@Cool Dude mate I have watched both teams. Liverpool did not face any strong team in Europe accept Juventus. United faced Barcelona, Roma, Milan etc. The United team was also better. Combined 11 Van der sar, Neal, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, souness, scholes, case, Ronaldo, Rooney, Kenny Dalglish
@homoerectus3355
@homoerectus3355 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the comparison carragher made between him and Gary’s different experiences against Arsenal and Chelsea. Arsenal and man Utd played games expansively and attacked and tried to dominate you so once they came up against a chelsea side that would let u play at them but not break through they struggled whereas for the other teams who would sit off against Chelsea it was a lot easier to deal with the attack of Chelsea than it was Man Utd or arsenal
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