New 2024 Pivot Shuttle AM Review

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Back with a vengeance for 2024, the new Pivot Shuttle AM is the first Shuttle eBike to utilize the highly desirable Bosch Performance Line CX system and receives a redesigned frame with a feature menu that should have all-mountain eMTB riders frothing. Sporting 148mm of DW-Link rear wheel travel and 160mm up front, Pivot’s Shuttle AM is designed to mimic the crowd-pleasing Switchblade and offer a versatile feel on a wide variety of trails. We were lucky enough to spend a few days in Crested Butte, Colorado aboard the new Shuttle AM to develop some good first impressions and can’t wait until our long-term test bike shows up for lots more miles for the full review. Below you’ll find plenty of technical information and our first thoughts on how the new Shuttle AM rides and compares to one of our personal favorites; the eMTB Shootout Award Winning Pivot Shuttle LT.
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00:00 Introduction
00:37 Getting to Know the New Shuttle
02:42 Geometry
03:58 Kevin Tisue - Head Engineer
05:28 Ride Impressions & Trail Time
07:29 Models
08:48 Chris Cocalis Pivot Founder & CEO
14:27 Josh from Bosch
17:25 Final Thoughts

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@joet2463 11 ай бұрын

I own a Shuttle LT and love that bike and think this is a great addition to Pivot lineup. I probably go for the "cheaper" Race build, and I definitely like the range extender option. I would like to have the internal battery removable like the LT for easy storage on hot summer days, but I understand it is engineered like that for a reason.

@Bench_mark_113 11 ай бұрын

Great bike. But prices are insane!😢 $9k for base model?! I bought my wild from orbea for $8k and it had factory fork xt and big 750wh battery. Blows me away the pricing difference from one company to another.

@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120 11 ай бұрын

We want the Bosch motor on the Shuttle LT!

@aaronburela432 11 ай бұрын

So sweet 🔥

@TheLoamWolf 11 ай бұрын

Thanks 🔥

@andersonsridebikes 11 ай бұрын

This is a great looking bike! I know that Pivot integrates the batteries into the frames for a reason, but it would be great to be able to quickly swap out the battery on big rides. I traded my Shuttle LT for a Repeater simply for the ability to quickly swap batteries. That may just be a big guy problem though! 🤣

@TheLoamWolf 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your point of view.

@Montezuma0 11 ай бұрын

You can add a range extender to this bike so the range would be almost 1000 kwh.

@andersonsridebikes 11 ай бұрын

@@Montezuma0 that is a nice addition, but it eliminates the ability to carry water on the bike. Swapping out batteries extends the life cycles of the batteries and saves weight as well.

@benreynolds5179 11 ай бұрын

Wait so the battery can NEVER be removed? what when it takes a sh*t? Or do you mean just an easy quick release on the fly removal? Sorry, new to learning about emtb's

@andersonsridebikes 11 ай бұрын

@@benreynolds5179 I was referring to on the fly battery removal for enjoying a big day out on the bike. The motor has to dropped to gain access to the battery on this Pivot. Some EMTBs only require a hex key to quickly release your battery and stick another battery in.

@jamiesteiger6140 8 ай бұрын

Looking hard at this in the XO build and a Rail 9.8 to compliment my Tallboy 4. The Pivot is a very good looking bike!

@EMTBReview 11 ай бұрын

Great job Drew and great to hang with you. I see you got eaten by the horse flies. They know when you are busy and can't swat them away. I had my film session and I got bit 10x. It was gnarly when I got home, almost like poison oak.

@TheLoamWolf 11 ай бұрын

Hey what's up Francis! Great riding with you and glad you made it out alright. Bummed we didn't get that second ride in on day 2. Catch ya on the next one.

@acornhehe 11 ай бұрын

I love all bikes, and own a Turbo Levo to complement my SC 5010. I just can't wrap my head around paying $9k + for an entry level bike. I bought my comp for $5500 and upgraded over time and it absolutely shreds. To each their own I suppose.

@Mockle07 11 ай бұрын

You’re not wrong but remember, to some people the extra few thousand won’t even make a dent 🤷🏼‍♂️ Not all products are aimed at all people - many would see your set up as pretty premium. (Nice rigs btw 👌🏻)

@jdmbeaner182 11 ай бұрын

@@Mockle07dude I recently bought a yeti 160e with less than 200 miles for 7k. the guy had it for a year and rarely used it he gave me the receipt and he paid 15k

@boulderghost4457 11 ай бұрын

@@jdmbeaner182lots of half off 1 year old e-bikes on Pinkbike. Yeti is slashing 25% off their 2023 bikes. Specialized and Trek are running big sales too. It’s not even September yet. The industry bit off more than it could chew after 22’. Now the inventory is sitting and apparently Pivot hasn’t got the memo. Interesting times.

@EMTB17 10 ай бұрын

Way overpriced. I ride a 2019 Giant Trance E $5000. Also upgraded as needed. I’ve never ridden better or faster on any bike I’ve owned. Too each his own indeed.

@adrianhrusca4067 4 ай бұрын

@@EMTB17 2020 here,.bought like new, 1000 miles, for 3000 euros, last year. Top bike.

@crestedbuttetrails3214 11 ай бұрын

Great to see Pivot here for a demo day in CB aswell. One point to be made about ebikes in Crested Butte. You are limited to trails that are moto legal. Teocalli Ridge and Reno Divide/Deadmans loop, yes.(Trails in this video) Trails like 401,409, Deer Creek, Snodgrass, 403, Baxters Gulch, Dyke are not allowed.

@Surfratglass 11 ай бұрын

Although if you’re a trail builder, they’ll let you ride Ebikes to build and maintain the trails😅

@Nate_K111 11 ай бұрын

Classic anchoring … make the top end bike $14k, then the “base” seems reasonable at $9k

@Masemoto 11 ай бұрын

Yeah. Pro XO needs to be max $10K or include some carbon hoops. Will wait for it to go on sale at current pricing or buy an Orbea Wild.

@boulderghost4457 11 ай бұрын

@@Masemotox2 for the Orbea Wild. Not even the Aspen Billionaires are paying those Gucci prices in this economy.

@glassbarrel 4 ай бұрын

Price is definitely disappointing. Big pivot fan but the pricing is almost ego driven to show they can sell eMTBs for the price of a KTM and more than any other brands. Starting to seem elitist like Specialized. Pivot makes some of the best bikes you can buy but the pricing isn’t on par IMO when other options are a lot cheaper and almost as good.

6 ай бұрын

most underrated bike ever

@tc_1274 8 ай бұрын

Is there any word on other colors? For over 10g you’d hope they’d have more to offer. I’m purchasing one before the spring

@dualsportaz4801 11 ай бұрын

Are manufacturers getting away from 38's up front? Noticed Pivot and Mondraker bikes are running 36's on the new rides. I love the 38's on my Crafty SE

@AZMTB 11 ай бұрын

Nice! I need to go demo one of these, their factory is down the street from me 👍

@TheLoamWolf 11 ай бұрын

You should!

@benreynolds5179 11 ай бұрын

Yea, I want to drive over and also test one. Im in Phx.

@lars_atx 10 ай бұрын

I really love my Switchblade, considering ebikes as I get older and more gravity challenged. My biggest concern is extra noise on bike, which is why I really like the TQ motor acoustics. Do these Bosch motors have any rattle while riding ( I know one motor did have a rattle), and do Onyx hubs work ok with ebike loads?

@jroase1658 10 ай бұрын

Yes the Bosch has a knock in the motor . Also onyx imo are the best . But with an e-bike You want the classic onyx hub not the vesper.

@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120 10 ай бұрын

Hey Drew, nice review as always! Do you think a burlier fork like a 38 or a Zeb would be more appropriate for heavier riders, just like on the Levo? Also waiting for that Propain Ekano 2 review! Keep up the good work!

@TheLoamWolf 10 ай бұрын

Thanks very much Ioannis. Some riders may opt for a burlier fork, though I don’t think most will need it. The bike was designed to ride and feel a certain way for all mountain terrain and trails, and they have the Shutle LT for those who need more. So I would likely leave it as is, at 190lbs.

@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120 10 ай бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf Thanks Drew, if only the Shuttle LT came with the Bosch motor...unless Pivot come up with a 170/180 free ride mullet bike with the Bosch and then we are talking!

@travisbailey6587 9 ай бұрын

Maybe I'm out of the game but when did bikes get a expensive as a used car? Seriously tho 14k but why? I just don't get spending that much on a bike.. I love it don't get me wrong but dang...😢😮

@IIISentorIII 3 ай бұрын

I did buy a new Stumpjumper expert for 3500Euros. Thats how you do it!

@PanayiotisPapadopoulos 11 ай бұрын

So what is your take between the AM and SL? Which one would be you go-to bike?

@TheLoamWolf 11 ай бұрын

I'd go with the AM because I like more range, more travel and more downhills!

@K1ngJame5-mtb 11 ай бұрын

Bosch cx motor rattles on the descents like the shimano ep8!?

@invisibleazn9330 11 ай бұрын

I'd put this pivot on my list for next bike if it had a mullet option (i got chimpanzee legs). Can you use the new transmission derailleur with the shimano motors or only bosch? I know transmission comes with its own cranks and chain ring.

@TheLoamWolf 11 ай бұрын

You can mullet this bike as it has a geo chip. Just run a 2.6 tire and put the bike in high position.

@invisibleazn9330 11 ай бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf awesome thanks for the heads up

@mtnbikerva1 8 ай бұрын

What do you do when you smash into rock ledges and logs with your bottom bracket chain and chain ring? Is there some kind of hack or fix since you can’t put a chain guard on it?

@ronshatzer6168 8 ай бұрын

Take a look at the trek EXE

@mtnbikerva1 8 ай бұрын

My buddy has a WREK EXE, it is too weak, and too expensive. . Also WREK is too leftist a Co. I used to be a WREK fanboy until they started pushing their mental illness! @@ronshatzer6168

@superyamagucci 11 ай бұрын

Looks nice... but NZ$25,995 is a little above what I'm willing to pay for a new mtb. That's 2 brand new motocross bikes. Or two damn decent mtbs, a low mileage WRX, and probably change left over for a new set of racks. Who's even buying these things? The kind of people I imagine with that sort of spare coin for a bike aren't really the people I'd expect to be buying bikes. (Though to be fair, I have seen quite a few similar bikes for sale recently 1yr old, 300kms and half price, so maybe they're buying because it seems like A Fun Idea? Irrelevant anyway, half price is still miles from my bike allowance.)

@gnarlyd0rk 11 ай бұрын

What's that helmet you're wearing boss? Looks like a dropframe but I'm not sure. TY

@TheLoamWolf 11 ай бұрын

Nice catch... Fox was kind enough to hook me up with one to "tease" out there and see if anyone noticed. We'll have a detailed video and info available when it drops here in the next couple months.

@gnarlyd0rk 11 ай бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf I knew it! It's different and new. I like it 👌🏽

@CarlosAntunesMTB 7 ай бұрын

Hey Drew I'm looking out for a bike that can feel a bit shorter and light/ poppy than the new Orbea wild while ridding on the trail. Do you think this Pivot might be that bike?

@TheLoamWolf 7 ай бұрын

Yes it certainly would be. Honestly I think sizing down on the Shuttle AM would also give you that feel. I’m 5’11 and ride the medium Shuttle LT as my preferred, Go-to eeb. Love it.

@CarlosAntunesMTB 7 ай бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf Thanks. I'm 5'9 do you think I would be better on a Small than on a Medium size? Honestly I already though about it but all my bikes used to be between 450 an 455 reach, I never experienced a 435 like we find in the small frame of this model.

@TheLoamWolf 7 ай бұрын

Oh that could be a little bit too small. A medium will likely work out for you best. Long as it doesn’t have numbers too far outside what you ride now.

@CarlosAntunesMTB 7 ай бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf Thanks mate, really useful insights. Keep up the excellent work. 💪

@sam_halawani 11 ай бұрын

Was that a new fox drop frame at the start of the video

@TheLoamWolf 11 ай бұрын

🕵️‍♂️🕵️‍♂️ could be! Ha ha. Coming soon. 😉

@Masemoto 11 ай бұрын

Curious how it rides compared to the Orbea Wild...?

@TheLoamWolf 11 ай бұрын

This is a shorter travel all mountain bike, compared to an Enduro-ready race bike, so travel sort of puts them into different categories. The Shuttle LT would be a closer comparison to the Wild. All three of which are awesome bikes and we'd be more than happy to ride/own! Your terrain and trail preference will have as much to do with which bike is best for you as anything else in that list of three bikes.

@Masemoto 11 ай бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf Thanks for the reply!

@robertopin5850 11 ай бұрын

do you know if is possible switch in mullet version?

@Masemoto 10 ай бұрын

Yes

@janeblogs324 11 ай бұрын

Where's the bike from the thumbnail?

@robertwilson3702 2 ай бұрын

What is that plastic clip on the Float X?

@TheLoamWolf 2 ай бұрын

It’s a really handy sag meter Pivot includes on all their bikes.

@Runbikedog 2 ай бұрын

Oh, cool. Thanks!

@justridemtb 11 ай бұрын

Need to find another part time job to buy a Pivot.

@Vodafone16v 11 ай бұрын

So now you can ride an eMTB in the Colorado trails ?!?

@TheLoamWolf 11 ай бұрын

On certain trails, aka dual use moto legal trails yes.

@Bikeaddict4235 10 ай бұрын

“So how long you worked at pivot? ” Since the beginning 😂 ?

@ronaldeuperio 11 ай бұрын

OOT: what helmet was he wearing? Def not a dropframe pro.

@TheLoamWolf 11 ай бұрын

Coming soooooon. 🕵️‍♂️

@ronaldeuperio 11 ай бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf😮😮😮😮

@mikenimmick3920 11 ай бұрын

Great review. Looks like a killer bike. Hey...what Fox helmet are you wearing? Looks like a drop frame model, just not like I am used to seeing and it's not on Fox's website. Something new?

@TheLoamWolf 11 ай бұрын

Hmmmm… 🕵️‍♂️ good eye. Coming soon!

@mikenimmick3920 11 ай бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf I won't say a word.

@daxolivares6939 11 ай бұрын

So crested butte is ebike friendly

@user-ij2wn1pk1p 11 ай бұрын

Yep…many of the trails and 2 of the best, Dr Park and Teocalli

@TheLoamWolf 11 ай бұрын

Not everywhere! But moto use trails like Teocali are!

@the_normsk 11 ай бұрын

Most of the "in-town" trails and those around Gothic (401, 403) do not allow eMTB.

@brucemilmont6455 9 ай бұрын

Its too bad these bikes are out of reach cost wise for most riders. Is the price really justified?

@topchoice1621 11 ай бұрын

I’m going to have to sell my kidneys to buy these bikes lol

@aim102 11 ай бұрын

Those bikes are nice but too rich for my blood, I’m more interested in the helmet it looks bada$$!!

@TheLoamWolf 11 ай бұрын

Stay tuned.... Coming soon from Fox Racing. Good eye catching it though.

@roylaw7765 10 ай бұрын

Of I'm paying that kinda money I'm buying a santa cruz or a yeti

@TheLoamWolf 10 ай бұрын

Interesting! What are you basing that off of? Brand loyalty, aesthetics, “value for spec”??

@roylaw7765 10 ай бұрын

@TheLoamWolf yeti give life time warranty on the frame for one don't they ? But most of all the looks they make really stunning bikes

@TheLoamWolf 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the reply!

@zaundy 11 ай бұрын

$25000 New Zealand dollars, phew very expensive , I will stick with my Whyte E160s for $9000 NZ

@loucederberg9544 11 ай бұрын

First 🏁

@TheLoamWolf 11 ай бұрын

Quick draw!

@vwgtiron 11 ай бұрын

Second

@danielpatino81 11 ай бұрын

There is not other drive unit I would use. My Ebikes are picked base on the motor, bikes geos and specs are very similar now nowadays so motor is the main component for me.

@howdy2k2000 9 ай бұрын

Howthefugmuchwasthat?

@stevesantacruz2916 Ай бұрын

Does it make any sense you can buy motocross bike cheaper than these

@BSE75 11 ай бұрын

bikes cost to much nowdays.

@ondrejjanoska660 11 ай бұрын

People pay too much nowadays 😢… if no one would pay it … it would be cheaper

@BSE75 11 ай бұрын

@@ondrejjanoska660 the brands will learn it on the hard way. world economy is bad and the bikemarket is saturated. everybody bought his bike during corona. its not the time for 10-15k bikes anymore. they try and will fail.

@Fred1294 8 ай бұрын

I think this guy fell off his bike and landed on his head for that price 😂

@mustclime5311 11 ай бұрын

Another plastic bike, good luck with that. I have a buddy with a switch blade that has waited for more than a month for a replacement rear swing arm that broke with a rock strike. Alloy for riding, plastic for showing.

@Mockle07 11 ай бұрын

Lol what a ridiculous point of view 🤦🏼‍♂️😂

@jdmbeaner182 11 ай бұрын

Brands have a higher profit margin with carbon frames compared to alloy

@mustclime5311 11 ай бұрын

@@Mockle07 Have your broken bike out of action for months waiting for a replacement part and you just might understand. Plastic bikes do not hold up to impacts like rock strikes. There is a reason so many companies are making frame protection kits. It because plastic bikes do not hold up well to hard riding.

@Mockle07 11 ай бұрын

@@mustclime5311 personally I have two alloy bikes and have had to wait ages for a rear triangle, so it’s not just carbon bikes that have supply issues. I also have a lot of friends who ride carbon bikes and have no problems at all. I also have a friend who snapped his Nukeproof Scout… which is alloy. The simple fact that you refer to them as “plastic bikes” tells me all I need to know about your opinions 👍🏻

@mustclime5311 11 ай бұрын

@@Mockle07 The problem is cardon bikes brake a lot easier than alloy bikes. A little bike lay down in a rock field is a scratch on an alloy bike while a plastic bike gets an impact fracture in the frame. I had a stick as big as your thumb get caught in my wheel and it broke the seat stay on a trek fuel carbon....an alloy frame would have wrecked the wheel, not the frame....keep the plastic bike on the road.

@garydetaeye7081 11 ай бұрын

they should just get rid of pedaling

@joephalen830 11 ай бұрын

They did Dirty bike

@garydetaeye7081 11 ай бұрын

all these bikes could be whopping surron but they want to pedal on e bikes lame

@TheLoamWolf 11 ай бұрын

Haha. In the words of The Great Lebowski, “That’s just like, your opinion, man.” EMTB riders are not looking to ride Surrons, if they wanted that experience, they’d buy a Surron. We like pedaling for the fitness, effort and peace it brings us. And when we want to not pedal, we’ll pull our Husqvarna out of the garage for some moto riding. The 2 worlds are quite different, and not “lame” as you call it.

@Mockle07 11 ай бұрын

Who the hell wants a SurRon? Aren’t they just for 17 year old drug dealers? You can’t take a SurRon to bike parks or many of the trails that you can take an EMTB to, and if you want to go faster and/or ride faster trails, buy a proper dirt bike!