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@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
So we're basically getting ÖBB Railjet/Brightline intercity service all round the US! Freaking amazing! Amtrak is doing a ton of things right with this!
@shrike6259
@shrike6259 Жыл бұрын
Nope. New trains does not chance any of the existing issues of track and schedule. The problem is not the actual trains.
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
@@shrike6259 Depends on where. On the Northeast Corridor, they already have pretty good infrastructure and many high speed sections. And they just got a ton of money to upgrade most of the NEC to modern standards and higher speeds over the next decade - about $40 billion worth of upgrades! Wherever Amtrak runs on freight rail, yes, they are at the mercy of whatever crazy things the freight railroads want to do with their track. And again, yes, most of them are running their networks into the ground. We need to either nationalize these maniacs before they completely destroy the networks that they inherited or pass funding bills in Congress to subsidize infrastructure upgrades. Not much Amtrak can do about that. But even here Amtrak has already started upgrading some of the lines to 110mph in a few select places. And states like California and Virginia are doing their own upgrades and attempting to buy more freight track to upgrade it for passenger use. We still have a long way to go in most places but this is a good start! And there also are a few places where these new trains are the last puzzle piece to get world class rail service! And that is a very good thing indeed!
@notarotomwithhair5637
@notarotomwithhair5637 Жыл бұрын
Imagine they rebuild F59PHIs and use it for superliners
@sweetwater88
@sweetwater88 Жыл бұрын
@@shrike6259 North Carolina just spent a $1 billion+ of improved rail infrastructure and they're hoping for another $2 billion in the next round. Given that city of Raleigh is going to spend $3 billion to double track the AMTRAK route improvements are being made at least.
@GintaPPE1000
@GintaPPE1000 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't mean shit when Amtrak's maintenance malpractices and shitty Siemens products will see this things ruined and degraded within a few years. Both ACS-64 and SC-44 failure rates are significantly higher than that of the legacy AEM-7s and P42 so far, the ALC-42s are out of service completely due to a class-wide control system failure, and the Venture coaches were sidelined for months with door failures - something they only solved by leaving all the doors open.
@Trainman3985
@Trainman3985 Жыл бұрын
Not going to lie. The new Seamen trains. Locomotives, Passenger cars and these new push pulls look great. This is really a big step for Amtrak.
@bahnspotterEU
@bahnspotterEU Жыл бұрын
"Seamen". Really?
@arnavsrikanth
@arnavsrikanth Жыл бұрын
@@bahnspotterEU Semen
@somerandomguy1828
@somerandomguy1828 Жыл бұрын
Seamen? Boi it's Siemens to you
@Trainman3985
@Trainman3985 Жыл бұрын
Oh I'm sorry I'm not good with German words
@somerandomguy1828
@somerandomguy1828 Жыл бұрын
@@Trainman3985 oh ok
@hirampriggott1689
@hirampriggott1689 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully, this will help expand Amtrak to new routes with the remaining old stock. Amtrak will have enough trains to go to places like Scranton or Columbus/Dayton/Youngstown, Ohio or a Nashville to Memphis route.
@MichaelfromtheGraves
@MichaelfromtheGraves Жыл бұрын
You'd think but for some reason Amtrak can't even get that right. They're reducing service in the Midwest due to "equipment shortages" right after the received new Ventures cars. Maybe the old Amfleets and Horizons are being refurbished in Indiana? idk
@Aether-222
@Aether-222 Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelfromtheGraves the ventures have/had some errors meaning they dont have the required amount. BUT they do have large extension plans, such as trains from NYC to scranton, theyve supported Philly to reading, higher frequencias on the NEC, to Miami, surfliner etc, as well as cascades extensions and the like. Keep in mind they are underfunded like most american transit organizations
@mirzaahmed6589
@mirzaahmed6589 Жыл бұрын
Not going to happen.
@MichaelfromtheGraves
@MichaelfromtheGraves Жыл бұрын
@@mirzaahmed6589 my expectation as well
@N1120A
@N1120A Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelfromtheGraves this is really a problem of the local governments
@pacificostudios
@pacificostudios Жыл бұрын
The built-in wheelchair lifts and wider doors will make these the most accessible Amtrak cars we have yet seen.
@adventuresofamtrakcascades301
@adventuresofamtrakcascades301 Жыл бұрын
Amtrak is really paying serious attention to upgrading most infrastructure and trains, aren't they? Wheelchair lifts and wider doors and windows being on board is such a smart idea
@KaiHenningsen
@KaiHenningsen Жыл бұрын
@@adventuresofamtrakcascades301 Well, Siemens has dealt with these things for a few years by now, so the necessary expertise exists.
@adventuresofamtrakcascades301
@adventuresofamtrakcascades301 6 ай бұрын
​@@KaiHenningsen indeed
@harrisonofcolorado8886
@harrisonofcolorado8886 Жыл бұрын
The Airo reminds me of the RailJet. The RailJet has a cab car in the style of the Siemens Taurus, which is used all over Europe. And seeing the cab cars look like the ALC-42(E), kind of reminded me of that.
@xinlu2806
@xinlu2806 Жыл бұрын
It is actually based on the railjet, but heavily modified to fit the needs of Amtrak. They are both build by Siemens.
@mr.conductorfromsts4204
@mr.conductorfromsts4204 Жыл бұрын
And for the long distance version of the Viaggio Comfort cab car with the Vectron Style
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
Yep, the Charger is the American version of the Siemens Vectron locomotive and the Siemens Venture cars are the American version of the Viaggio Comfort coaches that Railjet uses. So yes, in a way we just got nationwide Railjet service! It’s actually pretty incredible. US passengers rail is usually pretty neglected and overlooked. "Railjettin" basically all of intercity Amtrak is definitely not something that I thought I’d see in my lifetime!
@AndrewTheRadarMan
@AndrewTheRadarMan Жыл бұрын
@@TohaBgood2 I love that the railjet uses DPUs. Those stuff haul some serious ass!
@philippinetrainchannel1644
@philippinetrainchannel1644 Жыл бұрын
Yes it's derived from that concept
@ElDonDingo
@ElDonDingo Жыл бұрын
The real advantage here is the seamless (well I’d like to see it in action first) transition from pantograph to diesel. Not just for eliminating the time between moving around locomotives, but also for allowing more sporadic development of electrification on a given route. Hopefully this will also mean less time taken up for refueling on long distance routes
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! With the Charger just being an electric Siemens Vectron with a Cummins diesel generator bolted in, I don't think that they are losing too much efficiency here either. Amtrak basically just snuck in a bunch of electric trains into their entire nation-wide network! It's kind of genius! If Congress does decide to pay for some electrification, Amtrak can just stick a pantograph car on their AIRO trains and run under catenary with zero issues! That's actually an enormous future-proofing boon!
@mason7024
@mason7024 Жыл бұрын
Long distance trains will still have to switch to a separate locomotive when entering and leaving electric territory
@that1niceguy246
@that1niceguy246 Жыл бұрын
@@mason7024 Since the locomotive has both diesel and electric power i thought they wouldn't.
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 Жыл бұрын
@@that1niceguy246 Yep having the battery cars would make this possible. They will still need the diesel for long distance runs but it can run as more of a base load with the batteries smoothing out the peaks and troughs.
@Daniel-hj8el
@Daniel-hj8el 5 ай бұрын
Especially the Lines that Owned Amtrak Hopefully that would Soon happen (Even new service NYC to Scranton just at least let it happen!)
@joh_kep3248
@joh_kep3248 Жыл бұрын
It’s changes like this that are so important but also hard to get used to. I’ll miss the old Amtrak trains in a bittersweet way.
@CrazeTheZilla
@CrazeTheZilla Жыл бұрын
Yo, person from Cascadia here The fact that we are the first outside of the Northeast to have these new Airo trains is incredible! I fully approve of this and I can't wait to see what the future holds!
@TranscontinentalRailfan
@TranscontinentalRailfan Жыл бұрын
The future of Amtrak is coming! Can’t wait to see these new train sets in service in the future.
@IGuessIDoThings
@IGuessIDoThings Жыл бұрын
Personally I’m a fan of almost every change Amtrak is making, just minus the battery cars
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, those are stupid in general. But in this very niche application and with a very small battery hidden in a regular coach, maybe this is fine. I mean, this is literally to run in a single 3rd rail tunnel. Unlike some of the rabid battery train boosters, Amtrak is not claiming that this setup can do things that it can’t. They’re just going to pull trains slowly through a constrained tunnel. I think this is very close to the ultimate role that batteries will have in rail transportation - limited regen and running without the diesel generator when necessary.
@IGuessIDoThings
@IGuessIDoThings Жыл бұрын
@@TohaBgood2 I know right
@AnubhabKundu
@AnubhabKundu Жыл бұрын
those trains will be diesel hybrids. pure battery power cannot support a locomotive at full throttle. Class 230s of UK are an example of a Diesel hybrid train type.
@JG-ic3py
@JG-ic3py Жыл бұрын
It's actually an elegant solution to the prohibition on diesel trains in the tunnels under NYC. All it really needs is to get it out of Penn Station into the open air. Diesel electric technology has been around for over a century now.
@IGuessIDoThings
@IGuessIDoThings Жыл бұрын
@@JG-ic3py you do realize that the chargers already have 3rd rail shoes equipped on them
@A54729
@A54729 Жыл бұрын
Amtrak Cascades omg!!!! 😱
@CrazyDash9
@CrazyDash9 Жыл бұрын
I really hope Amtrak does infrastructure improvements alongside these new fleet improvements. Yes it’s nice to get new trains, but if the routes they’re running on are slow, then it doesn’t make the service better by any means. Amtrak really needs to strive at getting more consistent 79mph and more preferably 100-125mph to really make Amtrak a great regional service. Really hope to see more improvement projects like the LOSSAN Corridor improvement project on more Amtrak lines across the nation. Amtrak could also get good use out of their ACS64s if they were to electrify some more corridors in the future. Although I’m gonna miss the lovely P42s, Amfleets, and ACS64s, I’m glad to see Amtrak is trying to modernize their fleet. I just hope that they are able to go above and beyond by doing more infrastructure improvements alongside these fleet improvements
@rockyracoon3233
@rockyracoon3233 Жыл бұрын
Britain and Spain have diesel locomotives that go over 140 mph. We could have those here in the US!
@adventuresofamtrakcascades301
@adventuresofamtrakcascades301 11 ай бұрын
​@@rockyracoon3233honestly, 125 feels enough
@Vi-vg3gx
@Vi-vg3gx Жыл бұрын
This trains look sick🤌🤌
@NorthernNewEnglandRailfan
@NorthernNewEnglandRailfan Жыл бұрын
*no*
@IGuessIDoThings
@IGuessIDoThings Жыл бұрын
100% agree, they look awesome
@nitrousanimations
@nitrousanimations Жыл бұрын
@@NorthernNewEnglandRailfan yes
@htown148
@htown148 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget this is only happening because democrats gave amtrak 38 billion to finally upgrade their fleet. The Republicans are useless
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
@@NorthernNewEnglandRailfan _yes_
@dennisthebrony2022
@dennisthebrony2022 Жыл бұрын
And I also think for the overnight Nightowl Amtrak Redeye Trains from Washington DC to Boston might also use the Airo Train, but will have a couple Viewliner Cars at one end of the train, in front of the cab car.
@GintaPPE1000
@GintaPPE1000 Жыл бұрын
The Night Owl lost its sleeper last year, and Amtrak has announced they’re not bringing it back because they make more money sticking those cars on LD trains.
@R262SubwayTrain
@R262SubwayTrain Жыл бұрын
1:11 More Like Siemens Venture DMU Btw I Love The Amtrak Airo I Hope the Piedmont get Some Siemens Venture
@mabybee
@mabybee Жыл бұрын
Hope the Heartland Flyer extends service to Wichita/Newton with higher frequency between Oklahoma City and Fort Worth using new equipment like this.
@NikVargaLiverpool4ever
@NikVargaLiverpool4ever Жыл бұрын
drum n bass intro is crazy
@graythewolf6096
@graythewolf6096 Жыл бұрын
I like the subtle amtrak logo stitched into the seats. Very nice modern trains.
@gabrielisf1117
@gabrielisf1117 Жыл бұрын
The amtrak cascades livery looks sick dude 😎
@raymondj.2351
@raymondj.2351 Жыл бұрын
I agree!
@Emerald-764
@Emerald-764 Жыл бұрын
Finally, we'll have coaches that match the engines pulling them
@banksrail
@banksrail Жыл бұрын
This is just a rendering so keep your fingers crossed. I still have PTSD from the Avelia Liberty rendering.
@Emerald-764
@Emerald-764 Жыл бұрын
@@banksrail well, I've done my best to get those rendering out of my mind
@banksrail
@banksrail Жыл бұрын
@@Emerald-764 The rendering looked so good, then the train came out and it was ehhh. Lol
@Emerald-764
@Emerald-764 Жыл бұрын
@@banksrail I honestly prefer how the real thing looks
@banksrail
@banksrail Жыл бұрын
@@Emerald-764 In my opinion, the paint scheme itself is a little goofy compared to the more official/business looking blue, black, and red scheme. Anyone in design knows that black around windows signifies in our head “sleekness.” That’s why airlines and even the Amfleets do this but with other colors. Now onto my more pressing issue with the trainsets. The power cars literally don’t match with the rest of the trainsets. It has been bothering me so much lol. It’s like they took the European power car, and just slapped it onto wider passenger cars that fit the American standard (in fact, that’s exactly what they did) Man is it an eyesore. Every time I look at it, I feel like we got cheaper out of the real thing.
@raymondj.2351
@raymondj.2351 Жыл бұрын
The Cascades Wrap on the AiroTrain Set just looks awesome, even though I'm from the D.C. area.
@shad6644
@shad6644 Жыл бұрын
I rode the similar version of these in Germany last fall. They (DB) had a coach car, half devoted to bicycles with floor/wall-mounted racks, separated by glass walls/door. It was sharp looking. Would really like to see those on the Midwestern routes. One can dream…
@trainsdestinations3960
@trainsdestinations3960 Жыл бұрын
I won't miss the odd shaped and claustrophobic feeling Amfleet cars.
@railfanning.productions
@railfanning.productions Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I can't wait to see these trains in action!
@gregrat6192
@gregrat6192 Жыл бұрын
Never going to happen, you're $32 Trillion in the sh....where you going to get money.... keep on dreaming, give all your money to Ukraine.
@darthmaul216
@darthmaul216 Жыл бұрын
@@gregrat6192 well this aged poorly
@Tokax
@Tokax Жыл бұрын
They look so cool! The colors majority of dark blue and red looks amazing
@superiorjr154
@superiorjr154 Жыл бұрын
I love the new interior of the passenger cars. Hopefully they make it to the midwest Chicago line.
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
Amtrak Midwest (local subsidiary) ordered these Venture cars and slightly different-looking Siemens Charger locomotives a while ago, so they look every so slightly different. But on the bright side they are already entering passenger operations so you get them a few years earlier than the rest of us!
@bettyacheampong6085
@bettyacheampong6085 Жыл бұрын
I hopefully that all the old trains will be donated to a museum for all retired locomotives and amfleets
@anthonydpearson
@anthonydpearson Жыл бұрын
Say what you want about Biden, but the infrastructure bill (which is what’s paying for this) is going to massively improve day to day live in the US
@TheMetGuy
@TheMetGuy Жыл бұрын
Those are the coolest looking train sets ever, I can't wait to see them in service, Those seats are so amazing
@adventuresofamtrakcascades301
@adventuresofamtrakcascades301 6 ай бұрын
I'm so hyped to ride the Cascades trains as I'm from Vancouver Washington and Amtrak Cascades makes a stop in my hometown
@riodosa40
@riodosa40 Жыл бұрын
I like the looks and the construction of the new Siemens Chargers. The Long Distance Charger (ALC-42) is especially useful and a plus to AMTRAK.
@fenrirslip
@fenrirslip Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the way these new sets look.
@lapinos
@lapinos Жыл бұрын
Amtrak upgrades to European standard. Great news, it was high time.
@TheLIRRFrenchie...
@TheLIRRFrenchie... Жыл бұрын
Wow, technology has came far enough to where the trainset only need a single pantograph 😮💯👏🏿!!
@nolantherailfan5048
@nolantherailfan5048 Жыл бұрын
I also hope they aren't plagued with reliability issues
@TheLIRRFrenchie...
@TheLIRRFrenchie... Жыл бұрын
@@nolantherailfan5048 agreed. Unless it's built by people who have a good track record with single pantograph trainsets, then stick to 2 pantographs 🤣!! But we'll just have to see.
@nomercynodragonforyou9688
@nomercynodragonforyou9688 Жыл бұрын
That's nice. Amtrak needs more train cars like these. Cars that also go around its max speed more often too.
@dth2brny121
@dth2brny121 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see these new trains will be built in my home state of California. Incredible 😁
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
At this point, the Siemens plant in Florin builds trains for most of intercity rail in the US (Federal Amtrak, Amtrak California, Amtrak Midwest, VIA Rail, and Brightline). And they also build most of the new light rail and light metro vehicles for both North and South America. It's actually incredible how productive that one factory is!
@dth2brny121
@dth2brny121 Жыл бұрын
@@TohaBgood2 Exactly. I remembered that the same plant produced light stock for Los Angeles Metro when the Green Line (now the C-Line) came about in the mid-90s, the Siemens rail plant is THAT flexible
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
@@dth2brny121 Yeah, it's kind of crazy how much of our modern passenger rail in the US is built in Florin now. SF Muni, Portland MAX, LA Metro, a ton of light rail services in SoCal, every other light rail operator around the country, Ottawa light rail in Canada, etc. The list just keeps going and going! Really making us local boys proud!
@dth2brny121
@dth2brny121 Жыл бұрын
@@TohaBgood2 I could say what's good for California, in terms of modern-day U.S. and Canadian rail, is good for both of our countries 👍
@cjhan9816
@cjhan9816 Жыл бұрын
Both Atlantic N/E & Pacific N/W corridors are most profits of Amtrak than all of the other US regions.
@Basinrails
@Basinrails Жыл бұрын
Looks futuristic and sleek! Love it!
@KenDrPH
@KenDrPH Жыл бұрын
Beautiful and want to live to experience this transformation ⭐️
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
Some of the same trains are already running on Amtrak California, Amtrak Midwest, and Brightline. You just need to make sure that the train consists of Siemens Venture cars before you book the ticket if you book with Amtrak California or Amtrak Midwest. All Brightline trains use the same Siemens rolling stock.
@Andrewjg_89
@Andrewjg_89 Жыл бұрын
Those new Amtrak trains are nice and I do think that Amtrak should improve their services on the East Coast of the USA.
@SleepTrain456
@SleepTrain456 Жыл бұрын
I found this to be quite interesting! I'm looking forward to eventually seeing these Airos in service in the mid-2020s! Thanks for the video!
@buddmetroliner200gaming3
@buddmetroliner200gaming3 Жыл бұрын
hell fucking yes theyre here omg!
@christopherfederici2776
@christopherfederici2776 Жыл бұрын
Love these changes! Great work Amtrak and thank you, democratic policy makers, for getting these necessary infrastructure changes pushed through our government!
@MarkBustos2
@MarkBustos2 Жыл бұрын
I like the new trains from Siemens to Amtrak. I have a problem with the battery & diesel combination. MTA Long Island Rail Road did studies with battery powered trains and the results wasn't good both times. The 1st time the LIRR tried with a streetcar and 2nd time with the M7 from Alstom/Bombardier. Amtrak & Siemens should pay attention to the LIRR results. Amtrak and MTA Metro North Rail Road should add AC overhang power & DC 3rd rail & add or reactivate tracks between 34th Penn Station to near by Spuyten Duyvil and other areas that needs electrification here NY.
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
Batteries just don't have the necessary energy density. This is silly. Everyone said even before the tests that the technology is just not there. I don't understand what they were even testing.
@alanjensen8243
@alanjensen8243 Жыл бұрын
@@TohaBgood2 you do understand that most freight trains in the US are diesel electric
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
@@alanjensen8243 Yes. How does that make the energy density of modern batteries useful for rail applications beyond regen capture?
@alanjensen8243
@alanjensen8243 Жыл бұрын
@@TohaBgood2 it could most likely keep the train going til the next station if the engine fails
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
@@alanjensen8243 Only if the station is close enough and at drastically reduced speed. If you put just one battery bank than it will hold insufficient power to do anything useful beyond regen. If you fill half a train with batteries it will be able to do something marginally useful, but this is both insanely expensive and operationally idiotic. Until battery energy densities improve, batteries will stay in light personal cars that idle 95-99% of the time. It's just not physically possible to power a train with something this heavy per kwh.
@willpotter22
@willpotter22 Жыл бұрын
Lesss goooo seimens!!!
@JoeyLovesTrains
@JoeyLovesTrains Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I wonder if people will start taking more regional trains in the northeast compared to the Acela with these much more modern looking and (hopefully) reliable trains.
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
Well, the new TGV-derived Acelas will actually arrive first, before these trains. So I think people will be very distracted by the stellar new Acelas by the time these are starting to enter operations. Plus, Amtrak is planning on upgrading a few more places on the NEC to their top Acela speed. And this will be further bumped up to 160mph instead of 150mph with the new trains. So the new Acelas will also have a bigger and expanding speed advantage over the Northeast Regional trains going forward.
@Racko.
@Racko. Жыл бұрын
@@TohaBgood2 I Agree
@dan_xal9754
@dan_xal9754 Жыл бұрын
literally drooling 🤤
@Train43Kaleb
@Train43Kaleb 5 ай бұрын
I love the airo sounds clean
@TheRandCrews
@TheRandCrews Жыл бұрын
Ontario Northland also just ordered 3 Siemens Charger similar to Via Rail for their restarted Northlander service
@hirampriggott1689
@hirampriggott1689 Жыл бұрын
Interesting that there's another passenger rail line not affiliated with VIA or GO. I never knew such a thing existed.
@MrPedroramos8911
@MrPedroramos8911 Жыл бұрын
They look fantastic
@bennygstrainvideos
@bennygstrainvideos Жыл бұрын
IM so excited for when they enter service. They are very colorful and look really good. They are beautiful😍
@isoca_yaroslav
@isoca_yaroslav Жыл бұрын
Basically the charger but long I’m stoked
@raymondswarmer1433
@raymondswarmer1433 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see much more service in the Southeast covering some of the smaller cities like Augusta, Savannah and Macon, Georgia.
@philippinetrainchannel1644
@philippinetrainchannel1644 Жыл бұрын
Cannot wait for this debut
@romanrat5613
@romanrat5613 Жыл бұрын
Great, if only they could reveal new infrastructure improvements, electrification, expanded service, and new routes
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
That’s up to us to fund! Amtrak can’t do jack without a ton of funding and more legal power of the freight railroads. It’s literally illegal for Amtrak to do what you want it to do! Write to your Congressperson if you’re actually serious about pushing for this.
@sub2julianthekang
@sub2julianthekang Жыл бұрын
Im so happy its on the cascades route, im going to ride once it comes out 😊 Im also a litle sad because the talgos will be gone, then no more talgos in north america. But lets smile because we saw talgos, bye talgos 🥲
@tankman_tv9332
@tankman_tv9332 Жыл бұрын
The talgos arent that old tho theyre like what 4 years old
@SteveInNEPA1
@SteveInNEPA1 Жыл бұрын
Nice work on this video... can't wait until the amfleet cars get retired... they've done their work in reviving a dieing passenger rail network, but it's time. I use NE corridor and Empire service ( along with the long distance services as a treat), and think Siemens is a perfect fit.
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
Oh, I think that this is way bigger than that. We're essentially getting ÖBB Railjet-style intercity services all around the country. I think this will be a pretty incredible stretch for Amtrak! It's a new Amtrak era for sure!
@crassirus
@crassirus Жыл бұрын
Informative video and the intro track is a bop!
@Kaiser7068
@Kaiser7068 Жыл бұрын
This is really great… but in order for railroads to actually increase in terms of quality and speed, you don’t only need new trains, but also new, State owned tracks. I say that and I’m a right winger.
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
The American right is insane. They’re completely divorced from the regular libertarian ideas that ate supposed to underpin the actual right. Our right wingers are just religious fanatics that used supposedly economically motivated policy only as cover for their crazy Christian Taliban crap. The actual libertarian right wouldn’t have a problem with a state-owned corporation taking over a network of subsidized railroads. In fact, they wouldn’t even see any difference between government subsidized private companies running freight rail or a government-owned corporation doing the same.
@jmd1743
@jmd1743 Жыл бұрын
Airlines couldn't compete if they had fly on the freight train networks.
@banksrail
@banksrail Жыл бұрын
@@jmd1743 lol why did I picture an American Airlines 737 MAX-8 trying negotiate Horseshoe curve.
@RailFan4014Presentations
@RailFan4014Presentations 10 ай бұрын
who remembers the F59PHI’s and the AEM7’s bruh.. Not to mention the every other old train that got retired as a wise man said " newer ain’t better "
@harutosunaa3881
@harutosunaa3881 Жыл бұрын
All they have to do is modernize the tracks and they can travel up to 125 mph, thus making it high speed.
@banksrail
@banksrail Жыл бұрын
“Higher Speed”. Also Amtrak doesn’t own majority of the tracks these will run on so it probably won’t happen.
@timnewman1172
@timnewman1172 Жыл бұрын
Good luck, owing to the freight roads reluctance to even coexist with Amtrak...
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
@@banksrail Well, 125mph sustained on legacy upgraded track is in fact considered HSR by the international standard. If you choose not to consider 125mph on legacy track HSR, then poof goes most of the European HSR network and more than half of the German ICE network. I don't think that we should be building new HSR track at 125mph because that's just money down the drain. But upgrading what is already there at relatively low cost to 125mph sounds infinitely appealing to me. Plus 125mph, is honestly good enough for 70% of all HSR lines in existence. The average speed of the TGV network has now dropped to around 70mph. In 2007 the TGVs averaged 103 km/h or 64 mph! Sure, faster would be better, but I won't knock achievable nation-wide HSR even if it's just 125mph. Heck, I'll take a nation-wide network at 110mph and be happy as a clam! That would still be better than the HSR networks in the Nordic countries!
@jonny2954
@jonny2954 Жыл бұрын
@@TohaBgood2 "Well, 125mph sustained on legacy upgraded track is in fact considered HSR by the international standard." Not that easy. 155+ mph on upgraded legacy track without level crossings are HSR, but anything with level crossing up to 125 mph will still be higher-speed rail. In Germany as example any line above 100 mph will not have level crossings.
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
@@jonny2954 There is no grade separation requirement. High speed rail is about speed after all. Different countries have the max speed for grade crossings set at different levels. In Germany, the highest speed for grade crossings is around 110mph.
@GalaxysSouthFLRailfanning
@GalaxysSouthFLRailfanning Жыл бұрын
Those sets look awesome!
@markdangerfield8140
@markdangerfield8140 Жыл бұрын
I see those new Amtrak trains and Amtrak cars are coming along good
@jakeatom4841
@jakeatom4841 Жыл бұрын
Like the dual-mode ALC-42 more than the battery concept for the Northeast Regional. And I hate the current amfleer service, but I’ll miss seeing the cars.
@AndrewTheRadarMan
@AndrewTheRadarMan Жыл бұрын
3:10 lol there's no locomotive in that train consists. Maybe Amtrak hinting at a DMU? lol
@banksrail
@banksrail Жыл бұрын
Lol I saw that too. I think the animators made a bit of a mistake.
@hirampriggott1689
@hirampriggott1689 Жыл бұрын
You only see the cab car which is based on the Venture coaches. The motive power is at the other end.
@mason7024
@mason7024 Жыл бұрын
They haven’t finished the design for the locomotive thus why it didn’t appear in the renderings.
@banksrail
@banksrail Жыл бұрын
@@hirampriggott1689 Look closely at the rendering when it’s zoomed out and you’ll see that there isn’t any motive power lol. The train is either a DMU or running on magic. The obvious answer is that, as the other comment said, didn’t finish designing the locomotives.
@johnhagan7742
@johnhagan7742 9 ай бұрын
Well, I can't wait for the new trains to enter service!
@mahmoodQureshikohatiPakistan
@mahmoodQureshikohatiPakistan Жыл бұрын
This is very beautiful train👍👍👍👍
@derrickwong5337
@derrickwong5337 Жыл бұрын
VERY, VERY GOOD!!!!!!!
@funkyhetzer6624
@funkyhetzer6624 Жыл бұрын
These Sets look really good! Greetings from Austrian the home of the Railjet!
@ronwong6102
@ronwong6102 Жыл бұрын
wow it's beautiful amtrak airo
@williamseaman176
@williamseaman176 Жыл бұрын
Incredible!
@Thefreakyfreek
@Thefreakyfreek Жыл бұрын
Vidio opens whit breakcore/atmospheric drum and bass All aboard
@xxmajesticsailorjupiterxx7951
@xxmajesticsailorjupiterxx7951 10 ай бұрын
Rest in peace (1994-2020) 😢🥺 Talgo 6
@AP12BG
@AP12BG Жыл бұрын
It was about time, to be able to compete with the European trains, good for Amtrak.
@cjhan9816
@cjhan9816 Жыл бұрын
You should have placed new Amtrak train images of the Pacific NW leftside and Atlantic NE rightside to represent on its regional coasts.
@cjhan9816
@cjhan9816 Жыл бұрын
PNW corridor should have electrify locomotives: PTL; SEA; V/C .
@robertp.wainman4094
@robertp.wainman4094 Жыл бұрын
Interesting to read the comments. As someone from Europe who's very familiar with Siemens trains and who loves the design of the big traditional Amtrak locomotives........I think these new Siemens trains look rather bland and boring. Sorry!
@KINGWAVERLY144K
@KINGWAVERLY144K Жыл бұрын
that drum and bass intro >
@IndianRailwaysjourneys
@IndianRailwaysjourneys Жыл бұрын
Wow.. Nice! Hope indian railways makes such trains in near future..!
@pascackvalleylinerailfan5037
@pascackvalleylinerailfan5037 Жыл бұрын
I am a fan of these train cars and I do think they would be a step up from the venture cars in the Midwest, the issue I have is the speed. These cars are rated up to 125 mph and will be on NE Regionals and a few other services. What Amtrak should do in my opinion is save the money and offer coach seating on the new Acela trains. The new Acela sets can accommodate 3 extra coaches so they can easily rearrange the class seating. Or they can offer a complete coach class Acela train with Northeast Regional type fares like France & Spain's OUIGO service. This would eliminate any NE Regional service between WAS-BOS. I only say this because at the end of the day, why should I be paying less for a slower service? It kills me the Acela is "business" oriented train and not a family affordable train. I know the regional is like 30 minutes slower than the Acela now but with future upgrades its going to be a gamechanger. I believe everyone should be able to enjoy a ride at high speeds. Maybe this would allow Amtrak to electrify to Richmond and Springfield and they can use these Airo cars south of Richmond and other services that could use them in the future. That's just me, what do you think?
@Fightclubatgmail
@Fightclubatgmail Жыл бұрын
Both the Acela and NE regional need to exist separately. Having fast trains is only a part of high speed service. The most important part is having less stops. If you replaced NE regional with high speed sets you would need to eliminate stops or the train would make so many stops that it probably wouldn’t reach full speed. All good train systems have express trains and regional trains.
@Mizzwurie
@Mizzwurie Жыл бұрын
Finally they are getting there with Europeans trains
@aceboogisback9946
@aceboogisback9946 Жыл бұрын
This is good but now there are modern trains with outdated rails. Furthermore, Amtrak will never prosper by sharing tracks with freight. Americans need to upscale like China if we want to move into the 21st century.
@RaulTG1982
@RaulTG1982 Жыл бұрын
Railjet coaches and Vectron locomotives in USA version, the european RailJet/CitiJet in diesel version.
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! And expanded for basically a he entire country! I’m in awe that Amtrak could pull this off! This is incredible! Still scratching my head about how this just happened on a Friday afternoon! 🎉🎉🎉
@toaster98
@toaster98 Жыл бұрын
I really hope Amtrak is up on their maintainance game once the new trains go into service. Because the quality is siemens products is poor to say the least. From what i could gather it seems to be based on the Railjet platfrom which gets used here in austria, and as someone who has to endure them daily let me say its not a comfotable ride at all. So lets hope you get an improved ride quality once they are finished. And lets hope they dont break down as often :D
@chilly8039
@chilly8039 Жыл бұрын
liking the breakcore intro
@tnewton7762
@tnewton7762 Жыл бұрын
Was waiting for a video from you bro😃👍
@adeltalebpour4955
@adeltalebpour4955 Жыл бұрын
About EFFIN time
@filanfyretracker
@filanfyretracker Жыл бұрын
hopefully they one day find a way to electrify more, but outside the NEC they are basically at the whims of whatever a freight railroad considers good infrastructure.
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
The thing is that railroads aren't really independent companies. Like all transportation infrastructure, they are a government franchise that is very tightly regulated. We, I mean the people and by extension the US government, need to be completely sure that the freight network is there and always available when we need it. We literally pay for and create the conditions for the railroads to make money. They exist at our pleasure! We let them make money in exchange for the security of having them around. We could get our government to instruct all the railways to upgrade infrastructure. We could force them all to electrify tomorrow with an act of Congress. The problem is that they (the Class 1s) will say that they don't have the money to upgrade and we'll have to pay for the upgrades. Do we want to? I do, but I don't really see overly broad support to fund a massive, nation-wide electrification effort.
@windbreaker2432
@windbreaker2432 Жыл бұрын
Cap me on this, the Amtrak Golden Age
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
Yep! This is “holy crap” level news! Amtrak is putting Railjet/Brightline train all around the country! Wow! 😀
@michaelvelik8779
@michaelvelik8779 Жыл бұрын
These look great, but as always, Amtrak will be limited by the track that they run on. That holds true for home tracks like on NEC where they own or control big chunks of it as well as everywhere else where they are on a host railroad's tracks. Until there is more 110mph+ track (FRA class 7 or better) the promise of fast trains will just be a promise. Even just getting longer stretches of class 6 track and more double tracking along certain corridors would be a great boon. In summary, it doesn't matter how great new trains are if they don't have great track to run on.
@un0vus
@un0vus Жыл бұрын
that intro sequence was hard
@tom-and-mom
@tom-and-mom Жыл бұрын
Amtrak fleet modernization, CP-KCS merger!
@jovani6044
@jovani6044 Жыл бұрын
Love trains the more the better
@matthewivanjudeponciano1354
@matthewivanjudeponciano1354 Жыл бұрын
Looks good 😊 somehow it will reduce the need for domestic flights for medium haul travel
@samuelcoaoala
@samuelcoaoala 10 ай бұрын
This new alro train are super cool 😊
@russellgxy2905
@russellgxy2905 Жыл бұрын
I'll be honest, I'm not too thrilled about these sets. They are modern, and the interiors definitely seem to be a step up from the current Amfleets and Horizons, but there's just a few little things that shift to fundamental problems. I think my biggest problem is their use on the Cascades route. Even with the Point Defiants Bypass, using these large trainsets just feels like a step backwards compared to the previous Talgo sets. Amtrak hasn't announced any plans to upgrade the stations, so boarding the Airos seems like it will take longer. Also, the Talgo's inherently have better speed capabilities, being articulated, passively tilted, and just lower center of gravity The Pantograph and Battery sets seem like a weird choice as well. The Battery ones seem like a new iteration of making sure locomotives don't make pollute in New York City limits. A good idea in concept, but dedicating an entire car for this purpose feels unnecessary, even if the trailer has passenger accomodation. There's already 3rd rail in place to use, and Dual-Mode locomotives. Considering both Metro North and LIRR already talked about wanting dual-mode Chargers, why hasn't Amtrak? As for the Pantograph ones...those don't make sense to me, and the more I think about it, I feel like they chose the opposite solution to this problem. Think about it, the Airos are Regional trainsets. Pretty much every Regional service running on the NEC is running under the wires for most of the trip. Most of them don't leave the wires at all. The Sprinters are _right there_, are nearly twice as powerful as a Charger, and Siemens is still building them. So I propose, instead of a pantograph trailer for the Chargers, why not make a diesel trailer for the Sprinters? They'll run like normal for the regular Noretheast Regional and Keystone trains, and for other trains like the Pennsylvanian, Virginia, and Springfield services, they can use diesel power for the "last mile"
@molossis
@molossis Жыл бұрын
ooo nice
@foxylady1048
@foxylady1048 Жыл бұрын
Does that mean that they will put down the track able to cope with a higher speed.
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but only on the Amtrak-owned corridors in the Northeast.
@Lavlov.Torski
@Lavlov.Torski Жыл бұрын
hope to see a giant improvement for US rail infrastructure . for instance, from DC to Boston, Acela takes 7 hours to finish 457 miles trip, quite hard to image.....🤔
@ACLTony
@ACLTony Жыл бұрын
These trains look sharp! I'll miss the Amcans but an equipment update is long overdue. I respectfully disagree with your comment a 4:34. I've always felt that the front end nose and headlight style of the earlier Chargers were unattractive. The updated version looks sleeker.
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
The Chargers were based on the Siemens Vectron. I always hated how those looked, basically like a cheapo Chinese truck front face. The US version (Charger) looked slightly better, but still awful. Glad that they went with a more "Stadler" look. Much, much better!
@rich_rich90
@rich_rich90 Жыл бұрын
The pantograph cars seem odd. Over here in the UK we have THREE different class of bimode locos (in service/on order) that can do diesel/OHLE or battery from the Euro Dual family. Surprised Stadler didn't offer a 'Made in America' version with no need for the limited passenger capacity in that pantograph coach.
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