NEW Apple Watch Cycling Features w/ WatchOS 10

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NEW Apple Watch Cycling Features w/ WatchOS 10 - Tons more data!

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DesFit

Күн бұрын

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@dkbaj Жыл бұрын

What’s still missing is broadcasting of the HR. I think this is the still the biggest missing feature

@SterlingJames Жыл бұрын

So no HR support, yet.

@stevenqirkle Жыл бұрын

Yup, the only feature I actually want

@tobiasluke7 Жыл бұрын

same - have been suggesting it in their beta feedback for years and still no action. very disappointing. and for any cyclist with a power meter, i doubt ditching a dedicated head unit and going with massive iPhone is going to be a practical choice. let alone the risk of damaging your phone and primary communication/safety device rather than a dispensable bike computer in the event of a crash...

@littlewing1208 11 ай бұрын

Looks like HR shows up on the phone from the watch no? Or am I misunderstanding what you are looking for?

@stevenqirkle 11 ай бұрын

@@littlewing1208 we’re talking about broadcasting heart rate to a cycling computer (e.g Garmin or Wahoo), not a phone.

@Asthbendriel Жыл бұрын

I have to admit Apple is taking this way more seriously than I initially expected, whereas not in the same category when it comes day to day battery life, they're moving forward in the right direction for many metrics and sports and very fast. Also I first thought battery life wouldn't be anything stellar, but seems to hold well for most of the sports most of the people do now.

@ShaneOSullivanky Жыл бұрын

Great video thanks Des. Some things I would love to see: - VO2 max being updated similar to walking, hiking and running workouts. - varia radar support - Zwift Companion workouts saved to activity including power data and also updating FTP when Zwift writes the workout to activity.

@DesFit Жыл бұрын

All some great suggestions!

@User57655 Жыл бұрын

I get that the watch to phone workout data sync for cycling is intended to encourage 3rd party developers to see what's possible with the new APIs, but I wish Apple had built the feature out a bit more and included some navigation solution. It would have really removed the need for a dedicated bike computer.

@DesFit Жыл бұрын

Integrated navigation is certainly something I'd love to see in the future

@mlegrand Жыл бұрын

Great overview Des! If Apple puts in some mapping and cycling radar support I'm going to be pretty pumped about it all. Apple seems to be estimating my FTP very low as well. 🤔 BTW, I ordered that Peak Design case and out-front mount after Apple announced this feature and it's been really fantastic.

@DesFit Жыл бұрын

Thanks Matt! This is a good start and looking forward to what else they’ll add in terms of cycling features. And Peak Design makes some pretty great stuff 👍

@user-ik8wq1di8k Жыл бұрын

Amazing review as usual! I do like this from Apple. However the main thing about using Iphone as head unit is the vibration that will damage the phone. Apple in fact states that they will not provide warranty exchange if it's from bike damage. Even road biking (MTB of cause), there's a decent amount of vibrations+ bumps which can damage your phone (notably Camera/Gyro and mics apparently) . I much rather buy a 400 AUD head unit that can do more, last longer (Battery wise) and wont get damage than using my $2k+ phone risking damage.

@CuriousJet 3 күн бұрын

Exactly the information I was looking for thank you!

@DesFit 2 күн бұрын

Happy to help - thanks!

@StavrosMakris Жыл бұрын

Would love to see a video on the best bike trainers!

@DesFit Жыл бұрын

I’ll see what I can do!

@GreenEyeStudios718 Жыл бұрын

@@DesFitwhat mounts are you using on your bike beside the peak design.

@channel8048 Жыл бұрын

I think using the phone is great. However, I tried that before and the phone quickly overheated from being in the sun. I wonder if there is a way to prevent this.

@ketle369 Жыл бұрын

Move to a less sunnier place 😂. I think for real cyclists a dedicated head unit still is the way to go. Only thing I’m missing is HR broadcasting so I can ditch my HR strap. I will still use my Wahoo Bolt and HR monitor for training, but maybe I’ll just use the watch when commuting and add a hr warning ⚠️ so I don’t ride in huger zone than zone 2.

@user-gl4ws8bg6z 10 ай бұрын

This is cool but I like to just ride and then look at the data collected by my watch later. I tend to glance at my heart rate occasionally during my ride but I have to watch where I'm going.

@jacquespolette Жыл бұрын

Also, does the watch generate VO2 max readings on cycling while using power meters? (I know Garmins do it, don’t know if Apple is going to implement it or not…)

@garthenry 9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately a paired speed sensor is not used by the watch on outdoor cycling workouts. I was hoping it would use the speed sensor to get more accurate mileage on my mountain bike, but not luck. It seems even with a sensor paired and working, it still only uses the GPS data for mileage.

@flooooooo0686 11 ай бұрын

Route guidance would be handy to be included in the outdoor cycling profile. Main reason I use a karoo2 during outdoor rides.

@paulrichardson4598 Жыл бұрын

How have you gone through a cycling video without mentioning strava? Can it connect? How about cycling head units, can I send my heart rate to that now?

@frankreyes4 Жыл бұрын

No fat on this video. Perfect

@DesFit Жыл бұрын

👍

@dlochs Ай бұрын

Wonder why they don’t add maps to the biking app on iphone. Really need that!!!!

@pjhenry13 Жыл бұрын

Will Apple Watch automatically detect a cycling workout, like it does with running or walking now?

@NickBotha 29 күн бұрын

I really like the iPhone display 🍺

@nkeet89 Жыл бұрын

Surprising to see you still wearing a whoop. Is it part of a long term test or is it a daily wear?

@DesFit Жыл бұрын

Just some follow-up tests. It's offering more features now at a lower price so wanted to do a long-term revisit.

@Zane_Zaminsky Жыл бұрын

@@DesFitI purchased WHOOP 4.0 because of the Stress Monitor and Strength Trainer, and I think the device and app are terrific! 😉

@VisualRituals 11 ай бұрын

I dont know how this was missed - but Strava is blocking the feed import for cycling power meter data from Watch OS 10

@DesFit 11 ай бұрын

It’s not about blocking and more about adding it to the integration. I’m sure now that it’s public that’s ok the list.

@ivanteo1973 Жыл бұрын

I wish apple includes an ANT+ connectivity.

@ChrisPhillipsDrumLessons 7 ай бұрын

Nothing ever shows up in Bluetooth on my Apple Watch

@nayahc1 2 ай бұрын

Have there been any confirmed cases of how much battery the watch consumes when an external sensor is connected?

@yogigillette Жыл бұрын

Are the new Apple features compatible with Strava? Seems like it competes with Strava. I like to keep track of my rides in Strava

@DesFit Жыл бұрын

Power data currently doesn't sync over to Strava using the native Health workout sync but that may just be a beta thing. Strava is more of a social platform as well as a place for athletes to keep track of their training, where these cycling related features extend the functionality of an Apple Watch to help it compete more in the sports-focused watch market, like Garmin watches. Strava is more of an agnostic place to collect and share data from numerous devices regardless of manufacturer.

@MigsLife Жыл бұрын

@@DesFit Will Strava import the speed and cadence data gathered from external sensors?

@danspieth 11 ай бұрын

Is there a way to get the Apple Watch to share heart rate with a cycling computer like Element Bolt or Roam?

@BryanBryan7 4 ай бұрын

I want this answer also?

@nicolashenriquez9967 Жыл бұрын

Hi, you find any document or detailed source about the compatibility of sensors for the bike?

@GotDamBoi Жыл бұрын

are they ever going to add the ability to broadcast heart rate? love my apple watch but whenever I go for a bike ride I have to use my garmin 45 to broadcast HR to my wahoo.

@christophmuller830 Жыл бұрын

Very cool! The only thing missing then is map navigation support and Garmin Varia Radar to replace my Garmin bike computer with my iPhone. I have the iPhone with me anyway and just mount it on the handlebars would be perfect. How is it with the battery life of the iPhone when the display is on all the time? Does it use the battery-saving always-on display from the iPhone?

@batan07 4 ай бұрын

Is there a limit to the amount of sensors you can pair? Say, speed, cadence and power at the same time?

@audio_tron Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this detailed look at the new, long overdue cycling features. I have the "DIY Peloton" setup using the QZ app receiving bluetooth data (power, cadence, speed, distance, resistance, etc.) from an Echelon GT indoor bike. It appears the latest watchOS will be able to connect to my bike, receive its data, while my watch contributes HR and whatever else. Cool if true.

@audio_tron 11 ай бұрын

Update: watchOS 10 didn’t support connecting to my Echelon GT smart bike that has the metric sensors built in. QZ app can connect. Apple made a deliberate choice here or it’s an oversight. Disappointing.

@sriabhi Жыл бұрын

This video popped up and glad i clicked play. Installing beta updates right now -july 27th 2023. Cant wait to test new features this weekend ride to nyack.

@syedalikazim 2 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏 for a very informative video. I do have a question about cycling Power on Apple Watch… Will it estimate it using Speed & Cadence sensor even if we don’t have a power meter (paddle/crank)? Or we need to pair it with Power meter?

@donbethel7675 Жыл бұрын

Is there anyway to delete, or add to the race routes. I only have 4 and they are from a year ago and are very short. I want to be able to add my new routes, but can't find a way. Do you know of a way. Can you ask Apple? Thanks

@DannyPimienta Жыл бұрын

What’s the battery hit for this feature on the Apple Watch compared to a regular tracked ride on just the watch. How does the data look after ride is saved in the native app as well as 3rd party like strava?

@eedoamitay3341 Жыл бұрын

I hope we get more features for cycling in the apps and hopefully the algorithms and stuff get better as well

@mykweb Жыл бұрын

Loving this new update. Looking at ditching my garmin as having no end of Bluetooth connection issues with all the firmware. Going to give this a go on my next few rides. One thing I will miss will be climb pro or the gradient you can see garmin.

@notaspectator 2 ай бұрын

Hey thanks for this, its end of May 2024, watchos has received many updates, how do you find the cycling specifically? i have u2

@sriabhi Ай бұрын

The automatic ftp is not working for me. Any idea why not ?

@handyhistorian Жыл бұрын

I am really looking forward to monitoring my heart rate on my iPhone during BikeErg workouts instead of raising my wrist several times per minute.

@dandicristina1389 Ай бұрын

Why not get a garmin computer or a wahoo I don’t like using my phone as a computer even though I use it for Strava

@broccoli322 Жыл бұрын

Great video! Very informative.

@DesFit Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@MikelManitius 11 ай бұрын

So much good information, thank you.

@DesFit 11 ай бұрын

You're welcome!

@leslie7922 Жыл бұрын

Had power on my watch for like 8 years already lol

@hiddesdome8489 6 ай бұрын

What if I use only one power Meter e.g. on the left pedal? Actually it shows me only half power 😢

@JezArnold 11 ай бұрын

How do you get your watch on OS10? Is it developer, or public beta ? Where do you sign up?

@9to5high Жыл бұрын

what is wrapped around your right bicep? Looks like some sort of fabric and piece of metal

@peterullinger2814 Жыл бұрын

Next, do power zones for running, Apple. Without them, running power is pretty cumbersome to use - surely too cumbersome to use for most people. Without 3rd party support, there´s only a small chance to get somewhat actionable informations out of the mere number on the watch screen.

@surfnsocal Жыл бұрын

can confirm speed and cadence work from a Schwinn IC4 bike in the latest public beta. However power will not show up. i’ve been using MPaceline and Kinetic for over a year and both apps capture speed, cadence and power. so close Apple…

@AegenemmnoN Жыл бұрын

I’m very excited with this update. I’ve been putting off getting a cycling computer so me being able to use my phone is great…. So that I can buy power pedals. Any inexpensive recommendations?

@NeedForSpeed.2004 Жыл бұрын

I don’t really use this feature much but apparently riding a 4 wheeler counts as cycling and therefore I’m exercising.

@EriksBerzinsLV Жыл бұрын

I wonder if they fixed the XC Skiing workout - this workout did not track distance :/ Like the indoor workout.

@mikec9162 11 ай бұрын

Unfortunately to my knowledge there is no desktop dashboard or Garmin Connect compatibility.

@grahambowes756 Жыл бұрын

Great. Thanks for that. Do you know if data collected from cycling workouts will be used for VO2 Max measurement. It would be great if they added this in. Thanks again.

@candayuzgun 9 ай бұрын

Can we upload recorded activities to Strava??? Thanks.

@johnl1275 Жыл бұрын

So does watchOS 10 have power zones for running too or just cycling?

@dineshnadar5214 9 ай бұрын

How about a Cycling computer from Apple similar size of the Karoo 2 running on iOS ❤

@stoenchu122 Жыл бұрын

How accurate is the power meter data?

@venerdian 11 ай бұрын

How did you actually connect the sensor? I couldn’t see any of my Garmin speed and cadence sensors on the health devices in bluetooth. Also is this only working on ultra? I’ve got series 7 on OS 10.

@TheLimeCurd 11 ай бұрын

Power metric on any wearable gadgets are/will be mostly incorrect and suffer from inaccuracy.

@RNon21 10 ай бұрын

Does this update let you see the ebike battery percentage?

@Gabrielslee Жыл бұрын

This is amazing! Any idea if this feature will be available I’m Malaysia? Would be worth just going with this than investing into a new bike computer.

@DesFit Жыл бұрын

I don't think the cycling related features are region-dependent. I can't imagine a reason they wouldn't be available everywhere unless there's local laws restricting cell phone use on handlebars?

@IbrahimObertoLucero 11 ай бұрын

Today I was able to check the improvements in WatchOS 10 data collection, but I see that I cannot synchronize my route in STRAVA

@StalwartMan 5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much.

@kenshomi2 11 ай бұрын

My ultra shows it’s sharing with my phone. No prompt on my 14 pro my activity is being shared? Is there a setting I need to enable ? OS 10 & 17.0.1

@cenk82 Жыл бұрын

Battery drain of the iphone or phone heat issues?

@tkdadidas Жыл бұрын

Sorry for this question but how do you get the workout to display on your iPhone in the first place? Ive tried everything and up until I just watched this video I didnt even knew you could do that

@DerNeddeMann 11 ай бұрын

It pops up on the Lock Screen once the workout is happening

@BenjaminWasHere 11 ай бұрын

Blood Pressure Please

@markphillips5800 11 ай бұрын

Do any of the Apple watches track VO2max on a stationary bike?

@denizakalay4156 11 ай бұрын

Hi Des, to change from my Vantage to the Apple Watch I need to have my Watch on the handlebar (no IPhone) and see my heartbeat and power. So it is possible using Apple Health to visualize Heartbeat coming from external Sensors (Polar H10) and see Power at the same time + having the opportunity on route scouting, all in one app?

@paulpells1864 Жыл бұрын

Does the watch have a stroke counter for table tennis or tennis that can show F/H & B/H topspin and slice/chop. I've seen some being developed as a separate gadget but they never came to fruition, thanks.

@jacquespolette Жыл бұрын

Does the Watch send workout (like a TrainingPeaks workout) power data to the smart trainer to ride in ERG mode?

@nesvarigi Жыл бұрын

It shows time as 88 minutes instead of 1h and 28min. Does it always represent time in minutes?

@2caballos Жыл бұрын

On the current OS it switches after 89m59s to 1h30m if I remember correctly

@thani7963 Жыл бұрын

Always great to hear from you, can we set the sipped of auto/start&stop @ specific speed?

@redgar6467 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Des. Any chance you can confirm compatibility with Bontrager DuoTrap S Digital Sensor

@LuisMartinsmw Жыл бұрын

If it wasn’t for the garmin radar support this would replace my head computer

@mikad6110 7 ай бұрын

If I load it up to Strava, they didn’t show the power :(

@eblake57 Жыл бұрын

Will this work with a 3rd party display bluetooth

@markcurphey Жыл бұрын

But still no V02 Max ? A giant gap that keeps me on Garmin :-(

@art-van-delay Жыл бұрын

Interesting. What if you already have connected a wahoo bolt to your sensors, do they support multi-connection to more than one device? Or can I connect my wahoo to the apple watch to aggregates the collected data? That'd be interesting.

@DesFit Жыл бұрын

If your sensors have ANT+ as well as BT then you probably won't have any issues if you're connecting them via ANT+ to your Wahoo Bolt, leaving the BT connections on your sensors open to connect to your Apple watch.

@AurelianNaQ Жыл бұрын

Any news on connection options with Garmin Varia ?

@epaminos Жыл бұрын

Hi there, great video and thank you u so much for this. Just a quick question, in the Health app of iOS there are also two new metrics now, “cycling cadence” and “cycling speed”. I got my Garmin Cadence and Speed Sensors 2, and although the cadence is shown in Health app, the speed is not. Is yours shown there? Thanks in advance.

@movdqa Жыл бұрын

Can the Apple Watch read power metrics from the Keiser m3i?

@DesFit Жыл бұрын

It should pick it up as long as your power meter transmits via bluetooth

@movdqa Жыл бұрын

@@DesFit It does transmit via Bluetooth but you typically have to use an app to display the information. It has been generally difficult to get the bike to work with other devices though it has Bluetooth. You usually need some specific software on the client side. There are also different versions of the bike - in an earlier generation, Keiser sold a converter box and now that converter functionality is in the base model. I do not really know what that converter box does as I don't have one but it's supposed to allow you to connect the bike with some other devices.

@DesFit Жыл бұрын

Hmm, sounds like you may have an edge case with that trainer. Unfortunately I don’t have one to do any testing.

@Steven_Pelham Жыл бұрын

You have to have a power meter to track power on Apple Watch, right? I initially thought there would be some type of power estimate based on weight, HR, etc. like you see on Strava after a ride has been uploaded. Great vid, thx!

@DesFit Жыл бұрын

Correct, you need a power meter on the Apple Watch. The estimated power on Strava is in the same neighborhood as the ballpark but maybe not in the ballpark itself ;) It can't take into account variables like wind so it's something to be taken with a grain of salt. Thanks!

@KevinExizt 8 ай бұрын

can the apple watch connect to any power meter like pedal and crank?

@DesFit 8 ай бұрын

As long as it’s Bluetooth

@zedsprocket5857 Жыл бұрын

Does the power metric work indoors buddy 👍

@DesFit Жыл бұрын

Yes, power meter data can be collected both indoors and outdoors when the Apple Watch is paired with a cycling power meter.

@WorstSanta Жыл бұрын

Does it control smart trainer in ERG mode with structural training?

@DesFit Жыл бұрын

It does not provide smart trainer control, it just can collect the data being transmitted

@nutrinos Жыл бұрын

I'm concerned about the battery drain on the iphone ?

@Gufolicious Жыл бұрын

Looking jacked des

@anthonykougkas5309 Жыл бұрын

@DesFit can you give us some examples of other (smart)watches that support external sensors like this? Say I want to buy some external smart sensors for biking, which platform you'd recommend the most? Garmin? Suunto? Polar? maybe something from Android Wear like Galaxy or Pixel watches? I am using a Sense 2 currently but there is no support for even an external heartrate monitor! Please advise

@Frederik-xk8og 11 ай бұрын

"there are pretty non expensive ones" how about naming or even linking them?

@DesFit 11 ай бұрын

shop.4iiii.com/products/left-side-precision-3-plus-powermeter-factory-install & cycling.favero.com/en/shop/assioma-uno

@megan8494 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this! What are those other mounts you have there?

@DesFit Жыл бұрын

The other mounts on my bars are for bike computers, specifically those are Garmin quarter turn mounts but they work with many bike computers. Thanks!

@TurboLevoWei Жыл бұрын

一直覺得手機一定可以連結這些傳感器然後寫出一款可以跟Garmin Edge系列碼表一樣的功能這樣就不用再外掛碼表了

@lankymario7189 Жыл бұрын

only thing I want is to let the watch to broadcast HR to my bike computer.

@GregoireM 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for this video. Does Bluetooth pairing require an Ultra Watch? Or does it work with series 9 or older?

@DesFit 11 ай бұрын

It does not require an Ultra. The WatchOS 10 features are available all the way back to the Series 4.

@GregoireM 11 ай бұрын

@@DesFit Good to read, thank you!

@FernalAnthony 11 ай бұрын

@DesFit i the power meter functionality only available on the Ultra watches, or will normal Apple watches receive this functionality too?

@DesFit 11 ай бұрын

Any Apple Watch that supports WatchOS 10

@5amba 11 ай бұрын

By this point everyone with a powermeter or some of these sensors has a bike computer anyway. Unfortunately all of them are crap. But still, I don't see any benefits over a bike computer for outdoor rides. If you have a dedicated indoor setup, then this makes a lot of sense. What we really need is a bike computer from apple which beats the Garmin 1040. Which will never happen...

@am7jeremy Жыл бұрын

Will the cycling/power meter feature for Watch OS10 be available for non Ultra watches?

@DesFit Жыл бұрын

Yup, any Apple Watch that supports WatchOS 10

@WhooNiki Жыл бұрын

Wish it would work on the apple watch 3 too🙈

@ericlessard3628 Жыл бұрын

I use Strava as a middle man to upload data to my training software, have you had trouble uploading power data from the watch to Strava?

@DesFit Жыл бұрын

That’s not syncing over at this point in time to Strava, likely just a beta thing

@ReverbUser42 Жыл бұрын

This is huge for me. I was just about to buy a cheap cycling computer to display speed and some metrics because reading it off my watch is hard. Thanks apple. This is alright

@bernardo9202 Жыл бұрын

If apple launch an ipod directed to the cycling world that you can use with the apple watch and all it features they would probably send garmin, hammerhead and so on to bye bye land. An ipod with apps, music, good internet connection, a display prepared to be used in the sun and the list can go on and on.