mardGear | If by "ending up together" you mean that they’ll magically have a child after a timeskip then sure. 😆

I mean... she is the only other woman on the planet.

I hope not....

Super Cartoon Universe people still say that like its not obvious xd but best recap lol

This is exactly what I was thinking!😆

Woofen Tango "Broy-Lee"

@@whiteknight9553 You know what, yours sounds more accurate.

Broily and Pargarus.

And let's not forget Karkarot and Vergerter 😂

@@whiteknight9553 wow, i think that's how an aussie would pronounce it

old Broly has goofy backstory???

Same

That's good nutrient right there

Well one did it on his own and the other had help.

Wrong, ffs, watch the new one again, paragus never mind controlled broly now, he just electrocute him if he went over with his aggression. Paragus and Broly actually cared for each others, while paragus may have turned broly into a weapon for his revenge that is IMO just secondary to paragus, paragus really cared for broly now (he actually wanted broly to stop fighting and flee from there after he thought broly was no match for vegeta, if paragus didn't care he could just left him there) and broly actually respect his father, that's why he went ssj after freeza tricked him into believing that he killed his own father.

Kale. Kale is his place in the story, especially with the theories about a U6 arc. Also Frieza, since he clearly has future plans for him.

@@balrog0444 Kale is not because that is before Broly was added to the continuity. Now Broly is his own character, much more interesting that Kale, as she is just some shy girl that clings on to Caulifla and occasionally loses her shit. Frieza himself is becoming a boring character, or played out. He had his time in DBZ, now in Super, he's just there. Only so many times you can use the same villain before it becomes dull.

@@ericksantos4555 I meant that if a U6 arc happened Broly could come along and meet his counterpart, learn to control his power like she did and get some more character development for both of them. Disagree about Frieza, but that's opinion.

@@balrog0444 He could tag along, but it could also be written without him. He has no connection to any of the U6 Saiyans and meeting Kale wouldn't do anything for his character. He could learn far more from Goku than from Kale. Do you disagree because you like Frieza? or do you disagree because you actually believe that he adds something to the story? If it's the latter, why?

LOL. Poor Vegeta. You'd think he'd be less trusting of random people.

@@fandommusings5302 as a die hard Dragonball fan I thought the movie was pretty good, but I'd never call it the best movie ever, (even though I've seen it in theater's 3 times.) But here are my issues with the movie. One: while Broly is an actual character now, his character is just Disneys Tarzan in Dragonball, that's pretty much all he was. Making his character scenes quite boring to me honestly. Two: the first 30 minutes. Now don't get me wrong I really enjoyed seeing planet Vegeta and the saiyans, buuuut I really didn't need the Dragonball Minus rectcon that just turns my favourite character in the franchise into Superman. That just annoyed me, but I liked the rest of that portion. Three: The beginning argument between Goku and Vegeta. Now while I did find this scene funny, I really didn't like how they made Goku as stupid as he was throughout all of Dragonball Super. I know he's always been dim and naive, but it was always to the degree where it was charming. But Super made him so dumb that it was really annoying. Luckily his characterization was pretty much spot on for the rest of the movie, I particularly loved the scene where he's holding Broly back and trying to calm him down. And I also loved the ending scene he shared with Broly. Four: the ending fight was really anticlimactic. Now I for one am really glad Broly's still alive and sticking around, but I think they should've done it this way. They should've had Gogetas Kamehameha actually hit and kill Broly, but then use the Dragonballs to bring him back. Because this would do two things better than how the wish was actually handled in the movie. One: it would make the end of the fight actually satisfying. Two: it would give Broly an actual reason to be reverted back to his normal state, rather than be in his SSJ Berserk form. Because last I checked wishing for someone to go to another planet, doesn't include bringing someone out of a berserker rage and back to their base form. But yeah those are my gripes with the movie, I still had a blast watching it everytime though, so all in all I'd call it a success.

@@izukumidoriyaisssss3049 One: Fair enough. Two: Also fair enough. Three: Goku's always been a complete idiot. The DBZ anime toned it down, and the dub toned it down even further. I don't know how accurate Super's Goku is to the original DB manga version but I can totally buy him not knowing what repugnant means... Though that may be the DBZA fan talking. Him not realising Frieza could get stronger than them is more his arrogance than his stupidity, and that's not a Super thing. Gohan Vs Cell is probably the biggest example of this. Four: Heartily disagree. I was already hoping Broly would survive the film before going in, but after seeing how sweet and adorable this version was, that became the main source of tension in the fight for me. And when Gogeta started brutalising him, that only amplified. Watching Broly realise he was about to die (which is what snapped him out of it, his eyes returned to normal when that Kamehameha launched, and they were full of fear) only for him to be saved last second actually felt like a victory. Killing him only to resurrect him would have felt like a cop-out.

Ooh just shut up! Do you really think the writers think that deep? Even the writer of the movie said 'Goku must always win'

@@saibamen2597 And what does "Goku must always win" have to do with "Broly's motivations"? Second of all, no i don't think the writers thought that deep, because they failed to follow up on the concept they introduced, leaving us, the audience with our asses in the wind.

@@adalvarthepeaceful With win i mean that Goku should get the main role in all dbz movies, even if it don't make sence like with the Broly movie.

@@saibamen2597 Again, what the fuck does that have to do with the "writers not thinking deep enough" in regards to Broly's backstory and motivations. You complained in such a colourful way, but have failed to provide any connection between both statements

@@adalvarthepeaceful It's pretty obvious. Goku cried when they were kids and Broly didn't like it. There was no complex meaning behind it at all.

Love how he died, he died like how he killed that Saiyan on Vampa, he deserved it.

Well what did you expect? This is Frieza we're talking about?

MA UG Old Bardock was trash

@@yamuna6154 Not really but ok

MA UG the whole subversion was that goku was sent to the planet to destroy it where as in this retcon he was sent there to be safe. Really takes away from what is supposed to make goku unique as a saiyan

@@prl4122 Goku is still unique though, even if in a completely different way Superman and others of that archetype are sent to Earth as if Earth were a special planet, with them as "chosen ones" who are meant save the special people from Earth. Goku in DBS Broly is a survivor, who's sent there out of paranoia, precisely because they didn't think he'd survive in any other place that's not such an undeveloped planet. I think that's just as good as his previous backstory

#kickVic

Nope. Texan

I have a weakness for Saiyans and strong women. Strong Saiyan Women? I'm a goner.

@@fandommusings5302 You and Kale have that in common, then

Yeah, I thought the same thing about a day after I watched the movie. I didn't even pick up on it during, it just popped into my head the following day like "Wait, why did Shenron leave? He only grant Cheelai's one wish."

Wasn't the three wishes porunga tho@@SB170

@@deadrock1678 When Dende became the new Guardian of Earth following Kami's & Piccolo's rejoining, he had to recreate the Earth's Dragon Balls and thus Shenron. When he did this, he granted Shenron the ability to grant three wishes instead of one. Unfortunately, the number of wishes is reduced to two if the number of people being revived with a single wish is too large, but still. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oLSXY9OXv7zWfKc.html

I thought it was mainly because they used up 2 wishes of Shrenon during Battle of Gods and Super and that they didn't use the 3rd wish.

Last the they summoned the dragon they wished 2 times. Hence the 1 wish.

Sure you say Paragus instead of Pargarus but say Piccoro instead of Piccolo.

@@AnimatorBlake I'm Latin American, my dub is objectively better, Mario Castaneda is god

Broly wasn't happy with Paragus' death because 1) he's not actually insane in this movie 2) Paragus had been the only person in his entire life, so even if Paragus saw Broly as nothing more than a weapon to be used, Broly on other hand had no experience dealing with any other sapient being other than his dad. It makes 100% sense for him to think that what his father was doing with all the electric collars and shit was just normal instead of abusive. He didn't know any better, and his father was the person who trained and raised him. Loyalty achieved. Paragus mentioning that Broly is gonna kill him doesn't support anything, Paragus for fearful for his life because he knew Broly would eventually get lost in his rage and he'd be unable to distinguish friend from foe if not brought under control quickly enough. You said it yourself, Broly doesn't act on his own accord, just on his father's wishes and his blinding rage. And because Broly was utterly loyal to Paragus, he would not make the concious decision to kill Paragus. Regarding the electric collar, ever heard of conditioning? Broly was conditioned to fear the electric collar and the remote because it caused him pain, although it probably caused no actual physical damage. Yes, after Broly went to his Wrath state the collar would do jack shit to him, hell it probably wouldn't even hurt him anymore, but he didn't know that. Just the sight of the remote would be enough to make Broly subservient to Paragus.

Fizzbizz your Paragus argument is debatable, it’s not clear cut. Paragus casted away/hurt Broly’s only friend. And the line he said was clearly referencing himself, not everyone ( in Japanese at least) so it could go either way on this topic. Of course I know about conditioning but it just doesn’t ( shouldn’t?) apply to someone stronger than a God. I see no argument there making this better than the old version. I get that they used it to make Broly looked like a wild animal and give us empathy for him, but in the end it would have worked better with an abstract tiara ( less plot holes). Actually I think they should have swap the behavior of the two Paragus, it would have been more consistent with the plots. Original Paragus doesn’t hurt Broly with the tiara, he just calms him down and he is less a dick than the new one, yet he gets killed by Broly. The new one is a douche ( except at the beginning but then it creates consistency problems with his character later on the movie), he hurts Broly and his friend Bah, but yet we are supposed to believe that Broly loves him. But anyways maybe we are looking too deep on what it is. A really good action anime movie and they got that part right.

You do know that was not that huge if a thing killing him in 1 punch when he clapped everyone until the BS at the end what makes that so different for him going to to toe in the Canon lol

@ You, sir, are an idiot. TFS make real quality content unlike the Broly movies. I need a good explanation of why the old Broly had good motivations, and don't give me the "He associated Goku's crying with people stabbing him", it makes no fucking sense and was never even hinted in the movie. If you had actually seen the new Broly movie you would know he is not just a sheep that thinks anything new is better. It IS WAY BETTER. You are just a fanboy who can't accept that.

@First of all, I heard of TFS much much later after watching DBZ. Second, tellimg me that I am "just one of those" zombies" that does whatever" is no argument at all, and third, you didnt even defend your statement with any reasonable arguments you just said that he had more lines spoken and then insulted me. Well when basically all of those lines is him shouting nonsense over and over again, I prefeer the more silent one. Also his character is just shit l, his motivation is that Goku cried... that's it. I still want you to defend your case without being an asshole who just insulta because he cant accept he is wrong

Krljavi Dzo bro what’s up with the whole “greater than thou” complex you have going on here? Just because they like something that you don’t and vice versa, you just regard them as a brain-dead zombie? Come on now, I think we as human beings should be way past the whole “can’t accept that people have different opinions” thing. And you still never gave a valid reason as to why the old Broly is better or why the new one is bad, you just resulted to name-calling when someone felt otherwise. Btw, hating popular and/or new things doesn’t make you cool, nor does it show that you have “refined taste” of some sort.

@@ceddytuck7920 imagine someone puts a bucket of shit before you and says eat it, are you gona eat it and say it tastes good because other scat fetishists did the same or are you gona reject it like a sane person?

Villains are characters too

He didn't give a fuck about his father

Lol. Hilarious.

Exactly, these new DBS fans are out of touch with what made DBZ characters good and memorable.

@ the testosterone from dbz was pretty much what fueled my puberty lmao

Exactly, the new broly just screamed the entire time he fought goku and vegeta no shit talking at all

@@eftultima That does not make him a good character. Most dbz fans like good character development and good villains like Freeza and Cell. Saying that we are out of touch for liking good characters is the dumbest thinhg i've read.

@@gooeymon8146 when did i say all that in my sentence?

Pargarus

'Pargarus

He's the perfect representation of the meme 'HOW CAN SOMEONE BE SO ADORABLE AND HOT AT THE SAME TIME'. We need more fanfics about this cinnamon roll.

A loud minority is still a minority. Also, ya know, Gohan fans didnt have to worry about whether or not he'd be included

Animationmaniac talking about objective when all these things are just opinions. Also this broly isn’t a character he’s hulk without the Bruce Banner to make him even remotely complex

@@mattcarter1781 I mean, I don't really agree with the sentiment that the new Broly's just a hulk, since we got a pretty significant amount of time just seeing him talk in the movie, and his upbringing and relationship with his dad were fairly well explored. But regardless my main point was that he's MORE of a character than the original Broly who really was definitely nothing more than a hulk. Of course when I said "objectively" it was with some sarcasm, but I do stand by the notion that if you were to compare the characters of the two Brolys, the new one definitely has more points of note to his name.

> Pargarus

Lol. Thank you. I blame my bad pronunciation on a mix of excitement and Texas accent. :)

You gonna hate him even more when you realize that Bardock was battle damaged and had broken armor when firing that Ki blast towards Freeza. Which means they cut out a few scenes involving Freeza and Bardock and maybe more, kinda lame. He clearly was fighting someone before he got killed.

Good.

I will say this dbz from the Saiyan saga to the namek saga were wonderful and very well written and the best dbz has ever been the cell saga was good but also not and in my personal opinion dbz should’ve ended with Goku gone and Gohan taking the mantle I personally hated the buu saga with the exception of the vegeta character arc