New Cross Slide Handwheel Part 2 - Schaublinisation Of The Mini Lathe

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This is part 2 of the new cross slide handwheel built for my Mini Lathe. I copied the design from the beautiful highest class swiss Schaublin lathes. The way they made the locking mechanism for the cross slide dial is very interesting.
In this second part I made the new acme leadscrew, the locking mechanism, the new nut and finished the whole project.
Part 1: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o9eHdpill67HgYk.html
It took quite a while finishing this project and video, longer than expected due to personal reasons. There might be a little summer break now.
Plans and drawings for this project are available on Patreon:
- www.patreon.com/wecandothatbetter
I hope you enjoy watching. Feel free to comment and if you like the work subscribe to the channel. Many thanks.
If you want to support me, you can send me some love: paypal.me/wcdtb
00:00 Intro
00:27 Making the new leadscrew
07:07 Making the steel spacer
08:00 Dial lock first part
09:52 Dial lock expanding ring
13:04 Clamping knob
15:05 How does the lock work?
16:08 New acme nut
18:44 Adapting the lathes bedslide
20:10 All parts and final assembling

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@WeCanDoThatBetter Жыл бұрын

Plans for the Cross Slide Handwheel modification on my Mini Lathe are now available on Patreon: www.patreon.com/wecandothatbetter

@TheWhitsboy Жыл бұрын

Great job, handwheel turned out fantastic. Would love to get plans, but I would rather pay up front instead of joining patreon. So many good youtubers, it can become quite expensive. No matter, I enjoyed watching. Cheers

@WeCanDoThatBetter Жыл бұрын

@@TheWhitsboy Yes I understand, you can contact me via mail when interested in this specific plan.

@josseman Жыл бұрын

I have watched this video over and over again. Hats off to the quality of the work and beautiful design.

@WeCanDoThatBetter Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your compliment! I really do appreciate that!

@JamesJones-zg4bv 2 жыл бұрын

I've noticed that many of these lathe's get reworked. From all different companies, by many people. This is the best build I have seen yet.👍

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

I'm humbled! Thank you so much for your compliment. I really do appreciate that!

@robertnicholson7733 Жыл бұрын

a bit of nit picking, it is only an Acme thread if it is imperial, metric threads are called trapezoidal. Both are trapezoidal, it is just the name that changes. I only mention it as searching for metric Acme threads will result in far less hits than metric trapezoidal, especially on websites belonging to nit-picking suppliers. >:-)>>

@PaulsGarageProjects 2 жыл бұрын

Many a full size lathe would be envious of those handwheels!

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

hehe ;)

@jean3xyz Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this beautiful video well done, ingenious and practical as a transformation! I would never have thought of doing that on my metal lathe. What a monk's work and what patience you put into it! Congratulations, that's perfect!

@WeCanDoThatBetter Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your kind comment and compliment! I really do appreciate that! Yes, it is a lot of work, but in most cases it pays off later as it makes working with the machine much more convenient.

@Gottenhimfella Жыл бұрын

My Ursus (Italian) lathe has that locking arrangement on both cross slide and compound, and it is indeed a treat to use.

@Carnold_YT 2 жыл бұрын

I'm impressed. Great upgrade and great update, there are quite some parts involved!

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your comment! Yes in the end it was a lot more work than I expected starting this project. Struggled getting it done in the end.

@DavidHerscher 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, excellent demonstration of skill, creativity, and problem solving. Perfect example of the saying, "it's not the machine, it's the machinist". Bravo!

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your commen! I really do appreciate that.

@lucasandri5462 2 жыл бұрын

The final piece looks awesome, very good parts. For the locking wedge try to make the angle steeper so it becomes self releasing because the force that pushes the wedge out of the ring becomes greater. At least in theory is also kin of the reason because morse tapers lock themselves whereas 5c collets don't for example.

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment! Making the angle wider would be the ultimate solution, yes. At the moment I'm lazy of machining it new. But perhaps I will do this some day:)

@3in1Machining Жыл бұрын

Really impressed with the quality of workmanship from such a young man. Well done.

@WeCanDoThatBetter Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I really do appreciate that!

@SethKotta 2 жыл бұрын

I think the lock, while unnecessary, is a good option to have just in case. Even if you wind up using it as a fine adjust to make the ring require a teeny bit more force to turn.

@homemadetools 2 жыл бұрын

Schaublinisation; good one. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing my work! I really do appreciate that :)

@bahaddoutarik Жыл бұрын

C'est du très très beau travail rien a dire félicitations t es le meilleur. Merci pour ta vidéo

@proxxonpd250e2 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely a work of art!!! Incredible your creativity!

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your kind comment! I really do appreciate that.

@Omegajet223 Жыл бұрын

As always an impressive project, with a craftsman finish. 👍🏼

@WeCanDoThatBetter Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your comment! I really do appreciate that!

@nortonp240 2 жыл бұрын

you easily have the best mini lathe on earth :)

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

haha thanks :D It's still a lot to do. In the end I guess I have to scrape the ways in.

@robertosaragoni2218 2 жыл бұрын

A professional touch???? Man the whole thing is a work of art. Amazing work!!!

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot!

@fredflintstone8048 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful work as usual. I've found one of the best things I did for my lathe was to add a DRO to the X and Z axis. The increments on my Chinese metric version mini lathe show increments on the cross and compound slides that are not exactly in thousandths, but are really metric (they show both), so you accumulate quite a bit of error over several turns of the wheel. I would of course compensate by getting close, taking a measurement of the material and then sneaking up on the dimension when it was critical. The DRO made life a lot easier plus it allowed me to program the X-axis for Diameter measurements instead of having to remember of course that the dimensions on the wheel are radius measurements. Of course we get used to that so it's not a problem, but one must pay more attention.

@fna-wrightengineering 2 жыл бұрын

Gorgeous work. Seeing the whole thing coming together was awesome! Amazing job of improving function, while also adding some genuine class to the humble mini lathe. The locking mechanism is an elegant solution... I think, if you make the angle wider on the wedge and locking ring, the tapers wouldn't lock together like that. Maybe add a spring, or a Belleville washer between the wedge and the handwheel? Regardless, great job! Looking forward to more!

@WeCanDoThatBetter Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your kind comment and feedback! I really do appreciate that! Perhaps some day I will make the wedge angles a bit wider so that it doesn't stick anymore. But at the moment I'm used to it and there are so much other things to do :)

@malarikavela 4 ай бұрын

@@WeCanDoThatBetter From tapper theory locking angles (like Morse) are up to 15 degrees, self releasing are above that. BTW job well done. I'm impressed!

@kenthutchins1431 2 жыл бұрын

Nice job!……cleanest hands and fingernails I've ever seen on a man.

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

haha :) Thanks!

@jrkorman 2 жыл бұрын

And excelllent piece of work! And yes, it does look professional! Well done!

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. I really do appreciate that!

@Vinlaell 2 жыл бұрын

Nice work i love seeing your tooling expand

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@francisamanton1789 Жыл бұрын

travail de professionnel ajustage parfait , félicitations

@francis.a2596 Жыл бұрын

très beau travail de haute précision chapeau bas.............! un régal de regarder cette vidéo

@WeCanDoThatBetter Жыл бұрын

Merci beaucoup mon ami! C'est tres joli!

@ricksweetser1683 5 ай бұрын

I am ALWAYS amazed at your ingenious engineering and master craftsmanship! What new projects do you have in store for us in the future?

@foogee9971 Жыл бұрын

Thats a thing! Very well done, congrats! 👍

@WeCanDoThatBetter Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! I really do appreciate that :)

@temyraverdana6421 2 жыл бұрын

WOW! an incredible work! Thanks for share it

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your comment!

@jonnyphenomenon 2 ай бұрын

you finally got a bandsaw! congrats!

@AndySomogyi 2 жыл бұрын

Ingenious idea for locking dial, love it! I’m totally going to make better dials like this for my lathe

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment! The idea itself is copied from the Schaublin machines :) So I haven't inveted it but it is highly cool:)

@rc166honda 4 ай бұрын

Beautiful work.

@jaimeandrade9973 2 жыл бұрын

Disfruto enormenente ver sus trabajos, lograr lo que logra con ese torno es digno de Felicitaciones. I greatly enjoy seeing his work, achieving what he achieves with that lathe is worthy of congratulations.

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your kind comment!

@jozsefbalatoni8782 2 жыл бұрын

You always give me good ideas. Thank you!

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your feedback!

@HanifKasukoknikangol Жыл бұрын

Excellent engineering

@WeCanDoThatBetter Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@erlinghagendesign 2 жыл бұрын

thsk man, life center next 😉 | Danke für die Aufnahme mit dem touch tool 😀

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

@markwieben7341 8 ай бұрын

Mic Drop! Nicely done indeed!

@Jailguzzi 2 жыл бұрын

Hallo Martin, das Entstehungsvideo schaut ja super aus. Das Schild hast du mit Kerbstiften befestigt. Schaut auch super aus.👌👌 Gruß Bruno

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, vielen Dank:) Ja, ich habs zusätzlich noch mit Kerbstifen gesichert. Sieht einfach originaler aus:)

@3in1Machining Жыл бұрын

Excellent project. I need to make one. 😊

@WeCanDoThatBetter Жыл бұрын

Thanks my friend! Good luck for yours.

@Pushyhog 2 жыл бұрын

off the hook incredible

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks my friend!

@VanFlausch 2 жыл бұрын

You are a great Machinist!

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'm humbled.

@marcelopizzutipes2695 Жыл бұрын

Amazing process and a excellent job. Maybe if you use a spring in the clamping it will release easily. Congrats!

@WeCanDoThatBetter Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@paulmanhart4481 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful.

@EddywaKenya Жыл бұрын

Wow! That's talent! Keep up the good work!

@WeCanDoThatBetter Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your kind comment!

@magcase2127 Жыл бұрын

Very nice upgrade and great work.

@WeCanDoThatBetter Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@bustednuckles2 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely FANTASTIC machine work. Especially out of the little Chinesium machines. You have a lot of skills. I see a new project in your future though. Upgrading the clamping slides under the saddle. A massive failure in the name of keeping costs down IMO. There are lots of ideas out there. Mine took a month to do but I also filled in the "H" of the Cross Slide and incorporated a locking mechanism. I'll look forward to your take. Either way, this upgrade you just did turned out fabulously.

@WeCanDoThatBetter Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your kind words! I really do appreciate that! Good ideas, there is still a lot to improve on this machine...

@Foz9852 Жыл бұрын

Lubricating the fixed center when using it to stabilise your workpiece will help reduce friction and heat, just an occasional dab will do :)

@WeCanDoThatBetter Жыл бұрын

I think I did but didn't show it on camera ;)

@owenclark7210 2 жыл бұрын

That does look really nice. Well done.

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@valdecijalbarez 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for the video.

@Bob_Adkins 2 жыл бұрын

That method of removing backlash from the Acme threads was savage, something Ca` Lem might do.

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

You mean, that's not the most elegant way? I agree :) but it was relatively simple to do and I was getting a little bit impatient to the end :)

@Bob_Adkins 2 жыл бұрын

@@WeCanDoThatBetter Hey, I thought it WAS elegant, but the elegance was overshadowed by the rock-solid fix. That's the way I like fixes... no half-measures!

@maximohuenulef 3 ай бұрын

Is an ancient anti backlash nut type

@ellesse59 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@bmfbmf5954 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful! Congrats!

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@65jcbc Жыл бұрын

Great job👌

@eduardocamji308 2 жыл бұрын

Excelente, muy buena terminación.

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Muchas gracias!

@hoernst2762 2 жыл бұрын

Gratulation, sehr schöne Arbeit!

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Vielen Dank!

@mfletch392 Жыл бұрын

Bang on good job.

@daveys Жыл бұрын

Neat job, well done! Maybe remake that main wheel a bit smaller to give you a little more clearance?

@WeCanDoThatBetter Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment! Either this or I will redo the carriage so that both handwheels are further apar as they are now allowing for a little bit more clearance in between. I'm not sure yet, what to do with it :)

@daveys Жыл бұрын

@@WeCanDoThatBetter - No criticism on my part, just guessing that you’ll constantly be cursing the bruised knuckles otherwise!

@UncySpam 2 жыл бұрын

I have a cheap live centre. I pulled it down and cleaned out the gunk in the bearing and reassembled and it was much better

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

I haven't tried yet but yes, perhaps I can fix it by myself.

@tonypike5785 Жыл бұрын

Very nice work.

@WeCanDoThatBetter Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@geordey9532 2 жыл бұрын

Nice little mod you’ve made there cheers for sharing 👍 as for your dial lock issue just make the thumb screw captive for example plunge an end mill into the back of the handle deep enough for an circlip and cut a groove in the screw and hey presto instant fix the screw catches on the handle and pushes the wedge out

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your comment. And thanks for your ideas. Have to think about what I can fit into the tight space in the handwheel :)

@geordey9532 2 жыл бұрын

@@WeCanDoThatBetter I know there’s no clearance between the dial and the handle which is why I said plunge an end mill into the back of the handle it’s for clearance the clip sits in a recess/pocket allowing a flush fit between the dial and handle problem solved ✌

@Bigwingrider1800 2 жыл бұрын

THAT'S GONNA BE A MILLOIN DOLLAR MINI LATHE... i LIKE IT

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!:)

@YooProjects 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic job bro. I like your style 🍻

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I really do appreciate that!

@waynethomson3852 2 жыл бұрын

Looks Uber cool!!

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@davidsamways Жыл бұрын

Nice work. Lots of Schaublin's designs are just too complex for their own good. The dial locks on my Hardinge HLV-H are simpler and more rational than those on my Schaublin 135.

@t1j1 2 жыл бұрын

Good job! You might want to adjust the ways in the cross slide in your mill. The noise indicates that there is some play.

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Hi and thanks for your comment! I'm not sure if the noise is comming from the cross slide. I would guess its from the wobbly column and motor holding vertical slide. That is really a bit flimsy.... The cross slide is set rather tight but off course isn't the most rigid too.

@airflow49 2 жыл бұрын

It turned out to be a chic limb. I have the same lathe. I put the DRO on the longitudinal and transverse feeds. It became very convenient to work.

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps some day I will install one too.

@airflow49 2 жыл бұрын

I installed 300mm on the longitudinal, and 150mm on the transverse. Helps a lot at work. In addition, a Chinese plastic caliper was installed on the tailstock. I bought digital rulers and calipers from Aliexpress.

@steventimme5268 2 жыл бұрын

Install a spring on the locking wedge shaft and a dash of grease and it should unlock without having to push on the lock knob.

@daniloagostini4156 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant!👏

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@leslieaustin151 2 жыл бұрын

A lovely job, well done! Les in UK

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks my friend!

@parvizaghayarov935 2 жыл бұрын

Wonderful thanks for video

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment!

@OL6162. 2 жыл бұрын

Nice work. 👍👍

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@capman911 2 жыл бұрын

I put a bigger single knob handle on my top slide as I got tired of the two little handles trying to turn them. The knobs are close but no worries.

@fredericbryla6412 2 жыл бұрын

Superbe Travail!. 🐸👍

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Merci beaucoup!

@Jajamilan 2 жыл бұрын

Perfect. 👍

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Sigmatechnica Жыл бұрын

hmm interesting upgrade!

@higosousamáquinascaseira 2 жыл бұрын

Trabalho muito bom excelente peças

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Muito obrigado!

@afctin 2 жыл бұрын

SUPER!👍😉

@garygruber1452 2 жыл бұрын

cold bluing works a lot better if you clean the part in acetone and then warm it up with a small torch prior to applying the blue.

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip! Didn't know that.

@JoZf_Gibson 2 жыл бұрын

Merci

@ÁREAJ27 2 жыл бұрын

Que maravilha trabalho perfeito amigo!!! Abraço daqui do Brasil a todos aí!!!

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Muito obrigado!! Thanks my friend!

@karlmansson8319 2 жыл бұрын

Nice work! One thing that made me think though was your backlash adjustment. Squeezing the thread will maybe make the acme thread tighter on the flanks but it won't adress pure axial play, which is what causes the backlash. I think the usual way to do it is to split the nut the other way around to make two separate segments of thread and making those adjustable in their mounting on the corss slide so that you can alter the spacing between them. That way you can compensate for wear later on as well.

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment! Yes, the common way is to have two seperate parts which get axially pressed together to eliminate backlash. I thought this is a bit more work to do so I first tried it this way. As the threaded spindle is a bit smaller than the threads in the nut, when you squeeze the nut it also eliminates backlash. The range isn't as big as with your method as the threads someday reach the bottom of the nut internal thread. But as this machine won't get used excessively it should last for a while before I can't adjust for backlash anymore. I hope that makes kind of sense :)

@heybabycometobutthead Жыл бұрын

A trapezoidal thread has contact on 3 faces, this method of reducing play has been used for longer than you've been alive, the leadscrew on most lathes squeeze the half nuts together until play is removed.

@gordon6029 2 жыл бұрын

What’s next? Lovin this!

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

I have something in mind with the leadscrew bearing.

@ernani228 Жыл бұрын

I don't know if anyone has mentioned it but you could use a type of bent washer that will act as a spring although you may need to turn back the tapered part to make room.

@WeCanDoThatBetter Жыл бұрын

Maybe that will work. I haven't tested so far. At the moment I use it as it is.

@ianbertenshaw4350 2 жыл бұрын

The closeness of the two hand wheels was always a real bugbear for me ! I wonder I’d putting a small spring / spring washer/ Bellville washer in to push the taper lock out when the knob is loosened would be possible ? Awesome result none the less!

@matthewl.459 2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same. A small firm spring and washer should do the trick.

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, both handwheels are extremely close to each other :/ I see no easy way of changing this. I have to try if a spring or something fits in the dial. It's really tight there... Thanks for your comment!

@IGBasov 2 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

If you missed part 1: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o9eHdpill67HgYk.html

@grahameblankley3813 2 жыл бұрын

Instead of a lock nut I got a large o ring to fit inside the dial in a groove so that the o ring gives the desired friction you need 🇬🇧👍.

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

That's a way to go, yes. But here I wanted the complicated Schaublin thing inside ;)

@adriankohli4870 2 жыл бұрын

meeegaaa- Job, Sir👌

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@steventimme5268 2 жыл бұрын

Oh, btw...nice work!

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@ParsMaker 2 жыл бұрын

amazing

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@megandjaz7051 2 жыл бұрын

excellent channel,you just got another subbie

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your nice comment and for subscribing! I really do appreciate that!

@danielstewart3507 2 жыл бұрын

Outstanding! These videos always get me so inspired. You are a man of great talent and patience. May I ask, what do you hope to achieve with such a great upgrade to a cheap lathe? Are you after a watchmaker's lathe or similar? I am in need of a new lathe and I am tormented with the decision of buying a new lathe or carrying out monstrous upgrades to my current machine. Curious how you approached the decision. Well done!

@WeCanDoThatBetter 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your kind comment! I really do appreciate that. I have no exact plan. I have some upgrades in mind to realize in the future. Target is to have a well functioning lathe which is pleasant to use. I don't think it's possible to make it a watchmakers lathe. At the moment making modifications and videos about it is the main target :) But if you really need a lathe for doing work, don't go this way and buy a lathe which needs no modifications or use it as it is. Otherwise you just loose time:)