Yep. The only frustrating thing for me is swapping artifacts, it's just impossible to keep track when you've already swapped too many characters' artifacts 😅 and now yiur Chevreuse has a dendro damage goblet 😂

"you need a lot of characters" people with *insert weapon*/*insert element* only accounts: fck my life

LMAO

​@@atriyakoller136i have most characters equipped with decent artifacts thanks to my 2 year grind for raiden's ultimate emblem set lol

I can say I wanted to be economically friendly by claiming rewards and also see progression. But I always wanted to have more varieties of teamcomps. Glad I kept that in mind. Meanwhile time to build my hutao and forget about that damned domain for arle

What do u mean?

Classic 😂

I didn't get it

@@Grass_rock-kb7gi wdym you don't get it? If you ty hard enough, you'll catch it.

I don’t get it 😂

I love that aspect of the mode. In Spiral abyss, everything from environment to music seems so hostile, and it is always stressful to get those stars. In this, you complete a round, come out and play with friends, refresh and go in again. Love that!

*"YOU FIND THE IDEA OF CRUSHING ANTS AS FUN!??"*

WANDERER HAHA XD ​@@_gqt

Was doing it and considered that the voiced lines might be why Aloy is unselectable in the mode

Honestly true and meaningful impactful gameplay would see them expand if not entirely overhaul co-op without their idea just being pvp. Lets hope there will be new aspects to look forward to and a better reason to play together and to make it fun

Yes, coop would be amazing. I'd love to help some of my lower-level and newer friends. They would feel better about being able to participate in the game, and I'd get to feel useful and helpful. As it is, my low level friends feel left out and I feel bored.

Unfortunately the closest to coop in this is players borrowing your characters.

Well, I only expect to see "No" "Endgame" and "Genshin" on the same sentence

@@otakugamer6933 i edited it lol i shoumd have precised

​@@Delkaguit's fine, I understand the joke lol

Only took 4 years too lmao

Here we finally are boys lol

Most ppl who complain don't like to build chars or new to game, and don't understand what is end game stand for

Surely it's not because they themselves decided to put artificial barriers everywhere Clueless

Yeah, when they put all these character restrictions yeah it’s gonna be a lot of anxiety

​@@greenvega Genshin is not about building characters, it's about building teams with limited resources. Why would I build my C0 Sara or Faruzan if they are unusable until C6? And if I don't have Wanderer, why would I ever bother to build Faruzan in the first place?

@@r.d.6290 your first sentence is already a contradiction. faruzan and wanderer are already default trial characters here and they dont have to be crazy well built to clear in the first place

Found this out after lightning raising my Lynette to level 70 😭 Although I have her C6 and was planning to build her at some point anyway..

that's what i did, and i didnt have to use traveller because i used a friend's assist character.

Oh that's clever! I had just enough to get by for hard mode already, but I'll definitely have to share this tip with some of my friends who are newer players and don't have as many characters built yet.

Yes Venti and Sucrose helped me alot with those annoying waves of group of enemies 😅😅😅

I was disappointed after I saw that video about Venti's downfall in yesterday. Powercreeps exist always makes everyone blaming weak characters with worst reasons about Power and Glory only.

​@@VrtielA6300that video exist because they need to pump out content and of course, you wouldn't use characters that arent appropriate for the enemies, right? (e.g. using pyro chars vs pyro slimes/shields, or venti vs ruin/large enemies is just asking for trouble) It has always been like that, people just make a topic about it to create content, venti is fine as he is (I have all anemo except wanderer and xiao, and still uses venti on monolith/liftable mobs mostly)

Fr, i used kazuha and he did pretty good but I'm sure if i had venti I can keep kazuha for other rounds, although I have an ER sucrose so I guess that's good

Right??!! I didn't do too bad on my first attempt, but missed out on the bonus objective by 1 enemy. Retrying it with Venti, it wasn't even a challenge; cleared with barely any damage to the monolith at all.

Same it was easy with many pyro , electro anemo dps. How about Geo and Cryo theater?? Im cooked 🤣🤣 i only have Zhongli too

yeah when it have geo we're cooken I only have chiori 😂

Dw, we will get more geo characters when the nation of geo Liyue comes out

OH NO GEO... time to build noelle ig....

@@shiinaaaaaaa dw there's trial characters :)

ITS SOOOOO ANNOYINNGGGGGGG!!! How tf am I supposed to do it ._____.

It's an achievement, I don't think you're supposed to get that one on your first couple runs.

Yeah, i was thinking that too, but i'm not gonna focus on getting it because it's impossible to complete that achievement set right now anyway.

I got to 7 but 8 is really hard. I can't choose my team and so many vigors are being wasted because you have to form a team of 4 where I can just do it with 2 in some case

Not worth the effort

I use my em raiden in overload teams, it's also good. Even works in abyss.

I just invest heavily in a lot of my characters, not because of meta but just because I get bored using the same team constantly. My deyha and beidou helped me alot because I was messing around trying to build them for fun

same

well this is an endgame so you still have to work on your account

​@@sierrablue2206 Same. Out of boredom, I built ALL my characters. So Imaginarium theater is not a big problem for me

add random people, and use they characters, use trial characters too = easy day.

I mean you do have that tho, with the trial characters. And the other characters you pick can all come from Ur friends. So basically start making friends in genshin 😂

I fr need that. There are so many 4 star dps I want to use but I can't get artifacts for all of them (even if I do its from sharing) and leveling them and their talents is too much

How I unlock normal mode

@@Urahara_07 u need to have 10 chars matching the cycle element for easy, 14 for normal, and 18 for hard

I tried that and I ended up with teams with NO dps and all supports which didn't really work well (especially since we are restricted by elements. I could 100% make a hard hitting hyperbloom team with all healers, but dendro and hydro are not an option this season.) I'd recommend having a nice balance of both since, unless you are lucky with your cards you get 2 battles out of each unit max.

I ran up of DPS at stage 5 and that's annoying

Great fucking tips, EXCEPT I DIDNT ANY COMPANION FUCKS. It's all luck based. Fuck this.

Anemo characters don't even need talents, if you swirl. Off field dps are still the best as it has been forever!

Good tip! I will do that!

@@dudeinadoughboy4327 somewhat but not entirely. just skill issue yourself

@@dudeinadoughboy4327 Just level up your supports. Not that hard :D U can use Clorinde, arlecchino, fischl, raiden, benett, Xiangling, Sara, Hu Tao with C0 Chevreuse i used Wanderer with C6 Faruzan, a 800em kazuha, and rest are just for to let the game start on hard mode.

Problem? Skill issue if u can't clear easy af game with those

Funny enough, out of those three, dendro would probably have the hardest time when being played alone. Geo can brute force its way out, and with anemo you could swirl multiple elemental shields to amp your damage. But dendro does pretty much nothing without its secondy reactions unless they do something special like an arena that implicts the hydro state on the enemies

They might bring Hydro cryo anemo next rotation And Dendro electro hydro for the next

U mean Cryo, Geo and Dendro? anemo is already on this season

​@@nationalgeografic7687 You sound like a loser lmfao.

i'm kinda selective but completed it anyway

A gacha game where you don't need multiple team comps? Lol. Of course new players will have issues, considering it's a end game mode. I wasn't able to clear Abyss 12 for months until I had more characters. If you're "selective" and actively chose not to pull, then it sounds like a personal issue. You're meant to pull multiple characters as a F2P and horizontally invest, not vertically. You could get away with it before since there wasn't much need for more than two decent team comps, but players who have multiple team comps complained that they couldn't make full use of their entire roster, so we got a game mode where you can--and people are complaining about not having enough characters now? What a joke.

​@@pistolero995RNG gods were merciful then😂

That's the case for me I mainly play 2 teams and work around them, I managed to clear the new content but it was so hardddd

even if your selective you'd probably still have a decent amount 4-stars, it really just punishes you for not building a bunch of characters.

I paid no attention to anything and just yolo'd it, was left with Klee, Yae, Sucrose and Kazuha. Just about scraped through though!

learnt this he hard way. i ended up with jean, beidou, kazuha, and bennett, and jean and beidou were barely built

The vishaps are so annoying not really hard but, I agree. Coppelia and Coppelius is a tank n' spank.

I adore Beidou; you will not regret it! Her block ability is so much fun!

Fischl is literally the best ngl

@@idrankjungkooksbananamilk9382 better than yae miko as well STUNLOCKED

Yes, Beidou and Fischl worked really well for me here... as for Keqing- I didnt want to play her without dendro

How have you not built fischl? She’s like the best electro support in the game

as AR 60, igot a ton of characters built as well, but i dont have any cryo above 80, and in dendro the only built i got is Nahida, and in Geo, it's only Noelle, yunjin, zhongli, We'll pretty much need to get to work if we gotta keep up with those seasons-

You can just run Gladiator on Noelle… Husk isn’t a big upgrade for most people because they usually have better Glad pieces

If you really want to invest resin in noelle husk is best, otherwise gladiator is a good set as well and isnt even that much worse then husk anyways

Is it glad with the def time piece ? I have enough of the double crit piece on glad . Surely I will have enough to give her a full set.Thanks ..! I am not putting my resin into the husk set as I need to build some more cryo .( I have ganyu , kaeya, eula , rosaria , diona , Layla ,qiqi, Frrminet leveled up. But imma gonna level up chongyun and Charlotte as I have enough talent mats for those 2)

I have decided not to put so much on geo but I will definitely get Navia cause I lost 5050 before . I will double down on building other elements so that I can just skip Geo. The husk domain was a nightmare. It took me 2 months just to get workable piece for Yunjin .

I see that as a W, people often said that you'll eventually start pulling for cons instead of characters, and I never understood why would you

honestly most players doesn't, Im ar 59 and didn't have any geo 5* or any geo character leveled till I got chiori which I really didn't want to get anyways

All because of those Geo Purists, as always...

There'll be one as a trial character at least, but hopefully it'll bring more attention to Geo in general and Hydro 4 stars

Time for my Itto, Chiori, Gorou, Ningguang, Yun Jin and Zhongli to shine!

Good thing there will be 2 other elements

From what I understand, the shop's stock is additive and coins should carry over. I'd ask through the feedback page if you want a definitive answer, though.

@@effortlessfury I'd love to, yes!

i will say though, i would still really like a gamemode like sim uni that gives a bunch of crazy buffs and makes you do like 100x more damage lol. i just think that’s fun

From the start you get different element so its obvious. If you're casual you can just ignore this mode like abbys

@@fernandojoseraquel9150I like the og abyss better and now the rewards I could get from it decreased significantly, so as an f2p there is no ignoring option

@@Glnhl884This mode is more F2P friendly than the Abyss. If you’re unable to do it all yet, better start building.

@@shinobu1886 no I can get the rewards but it is very time consuming and not straight to the point, plus I can’t use the characters I put so much effort building so what’s the point

@@Glnhl884 You can and do use your own characters… have you actually tried the new mode?

Its insane hard to new players. For me, it was easy as i have a lot of build up characters.

@@Bullminator not only for enw players, for anyone with less then 2 years this is going to be pretty hard, not everyone has all characters built, and you can only pick 8 trial ones, each can be used 2 times, this is a game mode for wales...

​@@ricardorocha6622 its not that hard to get the rewards tho, with the trail characters (8 characters all used twice makes for 8 completed rounds) then you can get some from friends and some you have yourself. You dont need that many characters build. I did complete it with only having 4 characters build decently ( i can only clear up to floor 11 in spiral abyss with them)

I dont think having the ability to build functional teams off the bat is a smart move. Really, the difficulty of the combat simply revolves around how well rounded your team is in the roles it consists of. The mode is stupidly easy if you have an established team or a team that has complete synergy. The weaker the synergies, the harder it is. The greater the synergies, the easier it is. Rather, I think the companion selection events should give us option between 3 characters rather than 2.

@@flamezforthegamez1056 Yeah, the combat should definitely be made harder in that case. And I agree that choosing from 3 characters would be one possibe improvement. I would also like to suggest something like working with character roles, so that characters can be distributed in a more organized way, like we select a role we need and then get a random character from that role. Anyway, imo being able to build a functional team should be a requirement, because it's the foundation for fun gameplay, and everything else should be balanced accordingly.

I got the impression that "building functional teams" is on the player. You choose whom to pick as your cast before you start, then you choose who to use and when with the team functionality in mind. The opening cast are all workable with each other, so then it's just a matter of unlocking more companions and "whom do I save for the boss fight and how do I make the rest work". (Disclaimer: I'm the person who actively enjoys fighting bosses with friendship teams and finding ways to make them work regardless of synergy, so I'm biased here)

@@whistlegirl5726 I made my initial comment atfer playing the gamemode just once and have now replayed it. This time I ignored boons and just got companions, making teambuilding less of an issue. However, Genshin combat requires pretty much no skill at all while teambuilding is the only part that has depth, so restricting that part of it at all is just cursed imo. I'd rather like to see something like an infinite abyss where every character can only be used once and then try to get as far as possible.

My thoughts exactly. If they were going to lock you out based off of how many characters you have built, they really should give more resources to ACTUALLY level the necessary elemental characters. I'm unable to get into normal because I have 12/14. Now, I have to grind out leylines (both exp and mora) AND boss material to lvl up more people. I simply don't have the resin to do that in a timely manner. I'm sure I can reach the 14 characters necessary (even if they are going to be hella weak), but I definitely can't reach the 18 necessary characters that are needed for the hard mode. We have a month, but the resin given is not enough.

Here's what I've noticed so far playing HSR + genshin. Half of the HSR endgame modes, aren't even really endgame. Like they're so godamn easy The more accurate term for them is something like just free wishes, BC it's not really a challenge it's legit just free currency Endgame is for players who have put alot of time and effort into game, it is quite literally for late game players. There is also an easy mode with 10 charas requirements, and if you do abyss that means you have at least 8 ppl built. What ppl need to realise is that if it's hard for you, it doesn't necessarily means it's a bad thing. Just do the easy level and invest until U can actually do the hard mode.

@had-sd4hs the thing is, it's "hard" in a bad way. It's not "hard" because it requires skill to beat. It's "hard" because we simply don't have the resources to build the characters necessary. And it's not like we can grind and level them and their weapons up, because the resin simply isn't there.

@@villa_art I don't agree with that??? It comes down to how you chose to spend ur resin, BC there is def enough resin even before the increase. And I can prove it as well. ☠️ I have almost all the four stars in the game, and I spent roughly two months leveling all of them up to 70 last year. And I spent the last two months leveling all my characters talents up to 2-6-8s so I am living proof we have enough resin 😂 I did this all in exams months BC artifact farming required too much brain presence 😅 The end of it is this, abyss tends to reward min-maxing more. So if you go and spend all ur resin perfecting Ur Hu Tao, U will get primos. Theatre rewards variety. So if you spend ur primos leveling ur characters instead, U will get primos. I don't think that's bad, BC if a person who has played even for a single year they can at least do easy mode. Just like abyss, you will need to build up Ur account to be able to clear theatre that is all. What I am mostly seeing is that ppl are upset BC they can't clear. But it's fine BC just BC U can't clear today doesn't mean you won't be able to clear in a month. Now that everyone knows that U need to invest more horizontally, simply spend a month doing that and hopefully U will be able to do next season of theatre. But I think it's unfair to say it is a bad end game just BC it does not favour the way you have spent ur resources in game.

@had-sd4hs so it took you 1/3 of a year to barely build your characters to the requirements? NOT even getting artifacts for them? Nigga..... you really showed me 😂😂😂 HEY EVERYONE, IT'LL ONLY TAKE YOU OVER 4 MONTHS TO BUILD DECENT CHARACTERS AND DECENT BUILDS TO PLAY THEIR NEW MODE YIPPEEEEE. Why is it so hard for people to admit that they are a tad bit too stingy with their stamina system? The higher resin cap does nothing either. You still only get 180 per 24 hours so the resources you acquire are the same

Time for the Geo carries shine lol, as they don't Care for elemental reactions, maybe even Eula as she would be Cryo but her real element is physhical

I think that is where the alternate cast will come in clutch 😅😅😅

Dang alright that could be interesting

@@tristanmanalo6252 you'll basically have to save the special guest appearance for the boss fights in that case

Arlecchino gave us coffee candy aw

It’s a venti propoganda stage😊

You don't need to kill all the enemies. You just need the time to run out with the monolith above the required percentage. That's why killing the enemies draws the stage to a close faster.

Venti: You could not live with your own failures, and where did that bring you? Back to me.

@@JohnDoe-bi1td yeah if you only need the rewards but when you want the stars you gonna need to beat them

Ah yes. The Venti moment

true, they should fixate on some reaction like the event we just finished and not completely stop people from using other elements. Give a buff for the focused elemental reaction but let us play whoever we want. Not to mention you cant for example only use neuvillette to destroy it since you can only play 2 instance per characters

Using just neuvilette is boring

Frrr 💀💀💀

​@@yuvx8516 Neuvillette hater spotted 🤦🏻‍♀️

@@brussailpook8213 arbitrarily restricting elements which means characters just straight up like this is just a bad idea for a gacha why did I roll for these characters if I can’t use them like star rail doesn’t do this even tho it’d actually be less bad there but genshin does when the core combat relies even more on element and character synergy

Yes, Traveler who can switch elements is useful to meet the minimum roster requirement. Note that you cannot share Traveler with friend.

Same I brought Arlecchino Benny Xiangling Kazuha for last act and I eliminated the boss really quick

Having an 18 built character requirement isn't difficulty - its just a grinding requirement.

So hard to get 18 characters with decent and gear and lvl 70 as well just to play the endgame

its not hard, its restrictive because of resin limitation

I've been playing the game since launch and have had sooooo much time to get my characters up, and have done so. This event is perfect for me maybe its time to redownload the game

@BRSxIgnition if you're fairly new then nobody expects to get into the new mode immediately and there's literally an easy mode that requires fewer characters, it's endgame so it's not going anywhere take your time with that, you aren't exactly pressured to finish it as a season is like 1 month, so no rush at all. If you're a long time player then that's on you lol

You need to prioritize picking the draft more character card early game. If you never pick character, you will 100% run out of characters midway through hard mode. 8 stages x 4 characters = 32 vigor, divided by 2 vigor each = 16 characters (out of 18 total). 7 free drafts after every stage 1-7, plus 6 starting squad = 13 characters. So you will need to pick character card at least 3 times, more if you want more flexible options. EDIT: Oops, you actually need to pick character 4 times, because the final free draft comes with 2 vigor but you can't actually use 2 vigor on the last stage, so you'll be short 1 vigor.