What are your thoughts about the rule change?

Why stop at P12 for points? Hand out a point for finishing the race plus an additional point for each car behind you. Both the fans and teams want the fight for each position to matter every single week, and such a system would accomplish that.

Points should be awarded from 1-20. Every position, every race week should be fought for.

This is a clear indication that the field of teams will expand to 12

I'm in favour. I remember when only the top 6 places scored, that was the case for the first couple of decades I was watching. Making it the top 8, then the top 10 has been broadly positive, doesn't seem to have caused any issues. Going down to P12 sounds like a good thing.

MotoGP awards points down to 15th. It been that way for years

This only means they are adding more teams... it's a needed change.

Adding the "budget cap" (and it's not) allowed the top teams to lock in past investments and will never allow lower teams to make the investment even if they now have the cash. So might as well as add some points lower down.

Why not give everyone points who finished.

If there are more point-scoring positions, there is more interesting stuff goingon. When there's a 3-driver battle for P15 towards the end of the race, I often wonder "why do they bother?" and "why are we watching this?". Often times this is the only battle for position because the field has spread but still, if they fought for some points, it would be more exciting. A more "accurate" points system would also be needed for reverse-grid sprints (two qualies + 2 races are too much).

There should be 1 point for every driver that finishes a race. So you all start on levle playing flied. If you crash out 0 points. Here's a way for back markers to get 10+points per season. That will chalange the top 5 teams and we could see top drivers going to drive for back markers teams that are more consistent in finishing racesess.

I think having points till fifteenth place would be more fun... but the thing is... the more you stretch the the points... the bigger the diference between the top three gets... (To win a championship, you can em theory finish first fewer times i think...)

They need to reverse the points like they do in other sports, ie 0.5 for 1st, 2 for second etc for the complete grid, any dnf gets max points. Driver with the least points wins the championship. That way finishing becomes much more important.

there has to be a fan vote on the andretti case. I'm near certain that an overwhelmingly amount of fans would vote for andretti. Oh yeha... and... just give us points for everyone from p1 to last - don't see a problem with that and would give great racing.

YES! Every place should matter! That will bring even more heat into the grid

I agree fully with the new point system, for a 100 reasons, but it also signals that they’re seriously considering another team or have already done so and are simply laying the ground work for this to be implemented. One new team alone means 10% more cars in the field, sponsors and possibly fans, it’s a win win. NASCAR runs 43 cars on a road track race as well and it makes for great racing, 22 cars is literally half of this and will only increase the competition and ‘fun’ of the sport which is why people view motor sports.

The Constructors should have allowed Andretti into the "firm" !

Expanding the points system to p11 and 12 is less important then making the awarded point more gradual, avoiding one lucky race will effectively seal the deal for which team ends as number 6 in the constructors championship

Rewarding lower teams with points should have been done years ago...I'd even go so far as to give points to the entire grid...except for the last two positions...creating a very hostile environment on track, because no one wants to be last, or score no points, but I don't think that will ever happen. What could be a good idea is to reward consistency from p11 to p12, like a bonus point for fastest lap, drivers can be eligible for a bonus point if they finish three races in a row, p11 or p12, theoretically making 8 bonus points available to the lower set teams, but that also means that top teams can break someone's streak if they have a problem in the race and finish p11 or 12. Reward consistency rather than some out right racing miracle, adding points to p11 and p12 doesn't really solve the problem in the long run as explained in the video.

I find that is good, they should also do handycap points for the top drivers, the difference from your points between first and second divided by 2 as minus points for the next season, that would make it more interesting for teams not to have plus 200 points

Honestly, I think it should be all 20 drivers scoring points as below. Drivers who retire don't score any points. So the rule is that drivers must finish the race to score points. This would create much more battles in the mid and back of the field. No more would there be a season with a team scoring 0 points which is just a disgrace, and it would make things more exciting in the championship battles below the top 4-5 teams. 1st: 30 Points 2nd: 26 3rd: 22 4th: 19 5th: 17 6th: 15 7th: 14 8th: 13 9th: 12 10th: 11 11th: 10 12th: 9 13th: 8 14th: 7 15th: 6 16th: 5 17th: 4 18th: 3 19th: 2 20th: 1 Fastest Lap: 1 Point Pole: 1 Point

Reduce the points for 1st to 6th(maybe?), spread the points so all teams get at least some "reward". How demoralising is it for drivers to continuously be driving their hearts out, and it's all for nothing. Lower points at the top would make it more competitive(once every team is somewhere near or closer to natching Red Bull).

I think points to 12th is a decent idea, it gives the middle of the pack teams more reason to push. It's also not as bad as giving points all the way down to 20 like a participation award.

I never understood why formula 1 didn't just give out points for the whole field like the other motorsports I really couldn't understand it

Points should be awarded from P1 to P15. It would line up with more logic for the back end of the field in qualifying. Break it down like; 1st - 25 points. 2nd - 18 points. 3rd - 15 points. 4th - 12 points. 5th - 11 points. 6th - 10 points. 7th - 9 points. 8th - 8 points. 9th - 7 points. 10th - 6 points. 11th - 5 points. 12th - 4 points. 13th - 3 points. 14th - 2 points. 15th - 1 point.

Im not in favour, this will just push it back 1 team. So next time you'll get: We are only fighting for P13, and thats zero points..... The only real way is like to give practically all places points and ramp it up even more or just run with half points. 20 - 0 19 - 0,5 18 - 1 17 - 1,5 16 - 2

20 drivers? 20 points! and one for the fastest lap. constructers also get a point for the fastest pit stop.

Bottom two teams at the end of the previous season should get an additional day of testing and 20% more wind tunnel time in the next season.

I think it would definitely make the drivers more valuable come silly-season. That would be good for them. Especially a good driver (I.E. George Russell/Williams) stuck in a back marker team.

this rule change has nothing to do with helping the teams out...its to do the teams paying the FIA for scoring points and the lower down the grid that points are scored the more money the FIA get from that.

What does it matter if the backmarker teams are scoring mercy points? They aren't fighting at the top so they aren't taking anything away from the top teams. If anything, adding points for 11th and 12th would create an additional motivation to keep competing if you're a top car having a bad weekend rather than a situation like Alonso bailing out of the sprint in China due to nothing being gained to keep running.

The big benefit this change will bring is it will more properly rank the teams EOY. Right now they struggle so hard for points that freak situations often lead to a large increase in points for 1 or 2 of these lower teams. If the lower points are distributed this way the 6th - 8th place teams will sit on a larger buffer earned over time which mitigates the spike these freak situations cause. It should lead to a better team ranking system for financial distribution. Right now there is a real possibility a trash team in 10th all year could climb high with one insane rain week where crashes and diminished machine differences completely change things.

Nascar awards points to all finishers, as does V8 Supercars. You could vary this so the driver who leads the most laps gets a bonus, base on percentage of laps led. Or have a points finish for the middle lap, like a cycle race.......FOM just needs to actually start thinking instead of cashing checks.

I Remember when only the top 6 would get points. F1 Should do what MotoGp does and award points from 1st to 15th.

There are hundreds of point systems that could be applied. For example, you could have a skeleton point system, 1-5, 1-10, 1-24 or whatever, PLUS points for finishing better that the previous race, plus points for voted driver-of-the-day, plus points for most overtakes, minus points for causing accidents, minus points for ruining someone else's race and so on. You might even have 50% of the points awarded by finish position and the rest by public voting regardless of finishing position. By the end of the day, these are only magic tricks that affect public betting more than the sport. The real issue here, is how to make the 24 cars equally competitive. And this cannot happen when races are decided by stewards like the infamous Massi in the paddocks rather than the track. The more regulations the more boring and unfair the spectacle is. Bus drivers (no offence) are more exciting during their routes these days than Formula 1 is. So, my suggestion would be to go back in time and see what was really working then. Six drivers awarded points, and everyone was excited. That would take the big money out of Formula 1 and would bring talent and imagination back in. Cut down the regulations by 80% and let the drivers race. you don't need car manufactures in. You need backyard garages building cars. Don't need Mercedes in the race, you need AMG for example. Forget safety cars, virtual safety cars, race stewards' penalties and so on. Let them race!

Separate the constructors and drivers into two different point systems. Leave drivers points as is. Convert constructors to a lowest score, points=position system. 1st gets 1 point, 2nd gets 2, and so on. The constructor with the lowest points wins at the end of the season

I know some series (Supercars in Australia and NASCAR(?)) that all finishers of a race score points.

Call me crazy, points should go as followed. 20 points for 1st. 19 for 2nd. 18 for 3rd. And so forth. 2 points for 19th and 1 point for 20th. I think it would make a huge difference. Every race and position actually means something to the teams. Other wise the grid will just always stay top heavy.

I am a huge fan of points for P1-P8, as it used to be. We're going in the direction of participation trophies and that is bad.

if it means more actual battles for points, then of course they should do it. Increase the stakes.

Points per the number you finish, i.e. last you ern 1 point etc.

The fact that the points system HASN'T been reworked since 2010 is absurd. I honestly think that at least teams up to P15 should be awarded points, I also think the distribuition should be a little bit better bunched up at the top. Instead of 25, 18, 15. I think it should be 15, 20, 18...

It will take more than a change of points to make F1 interesting again,

I get how you can get crazy with it. If they did points from first to last you’d have Verstappen getting to 1000 points with how much they’d have to ballon the rewarded points a race. But at the same time, if you did award points all the way back you’d have a very clear indication of who sits where in reality. You couldn’t get away with everyone remembering the one time you got p10 if the rest of the year you sat in p20. Fans could evaluate and have their own more informed opinion and the broadcasters and teams could explain or criticize or applaud a driver in the back more easily and give solid commentary that even someone watching F1 for the first time could more easily understand. Though at the same time, races without scoring a point measurement of a drivers ability would become pointless obviously and you’d have fans from before the point system change arguing with new fans like they do when comparing point totals of the 90’s vs now when people try and bicker who’s better.

I think it would be cool to see just a 1 point reward for getting back to back p11 and it wouldn’t be too destructive to the scoring system

Let's just give points and participation trophies for every fucking body 🙄

P1 20points p2 19points and so on make it a full season sport

I dont understand why you don't get points simply for finishing. If it were up to me, I would give 1st 30 points and 20th 1 point, 0 points for a DNF. Then everyone is fighting for something every single race. It wouldn't make much difference to the top teams but would make a huge difference for everyone else.

They should do something meaningful if a team wins two years in a row they should give a percentage of prize to lower teams cars are too big shrink them back down to fit road coarses

only if a team that finishes last is thrown out of F1 ... & Andretti replaces them.

This is a long time coming, it is the main reason behind F1 being so easily dominated by a select few teams

As many drivers should score points as can be overwhelming likely to finish any given race. If 14 drivers finish 99.5+% of races, 14 drivers should score, etc. At the moment nearly invariably 12 drivers finish every race, so that’s fine. It very likely won’t affect the top drivers / teams, and if it does, well the championship was so close whoever wins is a deserved winner. I wouldn’t call it “bending the rules”, it’s just moving with the times as they’ve done before and will do again.

I'd be in favor for points to be distributed to all finishing cars.

Crap idea IMO Rater make them be more close to each other or get the cars to be smaller at least so they can race each other on the narrower tracks. The 10 point order was perfect as it was. And now there is the sprint where they said that the slower teams will take more risks but there is still nothing going on there either...

Half the field already gets points. It's not the fault of the top 5 teams that the rest can't make a decent car. At least add another 2 teams, then.

so we went from rewarding first 6 to first 10 to first 12. Soon they will give points for being alive when the race ends.

Imagine ur in the bottom (p20) and u fight tooth and nail to to secure p11....but it's pointless because it's pointless

Here's the *PERFECT point system* that rewards ALL drivers that manage to cross the finish line (asuming there are a maximum of 26 drivers ...without engine failuers or crashes) *Comparison with current point system:* (-points from car ahead!) *1st 25pts 100pts* *2nd 18 (-7) 85 (-15)* *3rd 15 (-3) 75 (-10)* 4th 12 (-2) 70 (-5) 5th 10 (-2) 65 (-5) 6th 8 (-2) 60 (-5) 7th 6 (-2) 55 (-5) 8th 4 (-2) 50 (-5) 9th 2 (-2) 46 (-4) 10th 1 (-1) 42 (-4) 11th 0 38 (-4) 12th 0 34 (-4) 13th 0 30 (-4) 14th 0 27 (-3) 15th 0 24 (-3) 16th 0 21 (-3) 17th 0 18 (-3) 18th 0 15 (-3) 19th 0 12 (-3) 20th 0 10 (-2) 21st 0 8 (-2) 22nd 0 6 (-2) 23rd 0 4 (-2) 24th 0 3 (-1) 25th 0 2 (-1) 26th 0 1 (-1)

Should be points for every finished position,

It's a good idea, supercars give points to all positions.

"crash at the front" shows mercedes...

Make all the cars the same and use the drivers skill to see who gets the points.

This all about money for the FIA! The FIA collects money from the teams based on the points they acquired the previous season. All this does really is put more money in the FIA's pocket.

Every driver to sign contract never to put pressure or overtake His Shyness, Leader of The Knee People.

Make it simple you finish you get points

Clearly think the points need to be expanded to at least 15th place. The majority of the overtaking and fighting for positions are in the P9 to P15 spots anyway so at least reward teams and drivers for their efforts. It’s clear the other teams can’t compete with the top 5 teams, and never have.

Contrary to what some idiots here are saying, it's not a matter of awarding participation, it is a matter of incentive. If the racing further down the pack became more interesting - the way it was last weekend in China - then people would want to watch it. If people are watching it, then sponsors will be more inclined to invest, and the more money the lower order teams get through sponsorship, the more competitive they can be. Last year Lewis Hamilton managed to come 3rd in the Championship - he almost managed to beat Perez and come 2nd - despite the fact that he never won a race, and wasn't in the second best car. Alonso managed to come 4th in the Aston Martin! How did they both manager to beat the Ferrari drivers? Because they are both so consistent that they were able to score a good number of points in every race, and as a result they beat guys who were driving better cars... However, the way things currently stand, the guy's who are further down the pack don't get the same luxury. Someone could come 11th in every single race of the year, but end up at the very bottom of the table with no points. They would lose to someone who came 10th in the first race, then crashed out on the first corner of every race thereafter. That would be extreme, obviously, but the fact remains, the further down the points go, the more accurately the Championship Standings reflect the reality of the drivers and teams.

Im really confused about why there can be a new point system for backmarkers but Andretti still wont be allowed in.

Added bonus: Max's records in terms of points will no longer be unatainable.

F1 looking to give participation points to keep "partners" happy 🤣🤣.

You can't call drivers top or bottom drivers based on the performance of the car....get with the sporting ethos of equal playing field and get to " Spec Car " racing to have a TRUE world champion driver, based on ability... not the fastest car on the grid.

There should be points from 1st to 20th and all drivers should be able to compete for fastest lap point. And as a pit crew incentive, a point for fastest tyres changed.

Just spreading the money more....is the 1 point rule going to change ??? This new point system are giving almost every team at least 1 point wich is rewarded by paying all travel costs of a team.... Points should go from 12 to 1 not 25 to 1....

All teams that finish on the lead lap should get points.

Completely stupid . This is top level sport . NOT an elementary school foot race . Where all participants get a ribbon , to avoid hurting their fee-fees . The original system should never have been altered . Next some wussies will suggest a 5 driver podium ........... with juice boxes instead of champers .

Bring in moto gp point's system

Points up to the 12th place means 2026 will have an additional 2 cars 😅😅😅😅 i think 😅😅😅

Start the fastest cars at the back of the pack

Points for Formula B!!

the grid is filled with 2nd tier teams... simple as that.

implemented so Lewis will still have a change of a scoring point season next year.

yes there should be change

EVERYTHING will change, EVERYTHING. the top 5 will not be the same... 😑

Wan't to make F1 Racing interesting???? Simple place concrete blocks in Red Bulls cars.

FIA will be happy

Yes

We need to see a reverse, starting grid for the fastest starts last with extra points for pole and the slowest starting first with zero points

I like this change

Top six drivers only get points. Let's go back to the old rules then? If they want to whine about more drivers getting points now? Lets go back to the old ways.

I think Its a good idea but prob should have points down to last place, as that would really push teams to race smart and focus on reliability. If you are currently 11th to 20th you don't loose anything by driving like a ......... but if you make up positions its a massive win.

yep

We need relegation. A viable newcomer can displace the P10 Constructors team.

ppl becoming more and more soft 🤦🏼‍♂️ it used to be ppl fighting for p1-3 and thats it then to be nice to others give them participation points till first 10 positions now ppl want to score whole grid its a joke. if you dont get p1-3 know what come back next week and get better...its not red bull or mercedes or ferrari fault they figured out how to make a good car 🤦🏼‍♂️ not feeling bad for Williams or Viza or Aston or Mclaren just make a better car its simple as that 🤦🏼‍♂️ Driver rankings should be p1-3 and constuctors should stay as it is..end of story 🤪 let the hate begin 😁

give points for all drivers, 1 point for 20th 2 for 19th and so own up to 10th,then regular points

Long overdue! A driver finishes 19 should get a point over a driver coming in 20th! Boring is what we get when they mess with the teams to stop Merc winning everything, and trying to stop a black kid beating the rich white boys, F1 and the FIA have almost destroyed F1. Now we have a rich white boy winning and ONLY one rich white boy winning everything!

Cosmetic difference.

How about a solution taken from WEC? Two leagues on the track, like the hybrid one and the GT something one. In F1 you would have, generally speaking, works teams(back markers) that can compete with eachother and the top league that compete mostly on the highest points. Call them F1-S class. And F1-A class.

Why not just give everyone 100 points for finishing (sarcasm) go back to 1 to 6 only. Like all things in life today let us reward mediocrity.

YAWN !

This is dumb. F1 is taking all competition out of the sport. The cars are deisgned now for "Closer Racing", the tracks have been re-done to be less technical, they put a budget cap so wealthier teams can't spend on engineering, the stewards bend the rules to manipulate the outcome of seasons & now......now they want to give out more points so theres no use in putting effort into bettering your car. What a fucking joke.