New Goths Strat (My Attempt)

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3 жыл бұрын

A few days ago (not yesterday as I said here lol) I uploaded a video with the "new goth strat" featuring the forward villager and drush. Well guess what? Here I try this against the very player that killed me with it, AND he has a counter civilization. Is it good enough to work in this situation?
Original Vid - • NEW Goths Strategy
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@T90Official 3 жыл бұрын

In this video I said "yesterday's upload" it was actually a few days ago. Also I recorded this a week and a half ago, I have a lot of recordings to come to KZfaq lol! Enjoy the vid!!

@schnitzelhd3844 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, I am doing a similar thing with spanish, as you mentioned. I go with forward vill while going into Feudal, building barracks and tower/s (using the tower for denying recources and militia for raiding) and trying to go castle age knights as quickly as possible, you can go for scouts and all-in Feudal. I have trained this for like 3 years so I can do it pretty fast by now (for my measurements).

@lucasb1904 3 жыл бұрын

@@schnitzelhd3844 seems Nice to me. I Will check this out.

@braedonvangorkom3408 3 жыл бұрын

It was a super fun video! Make sure you take care of yourself though!

@connormac4401 3 жыл бұрын

I live to see another LeL and the video about straggler trees

@ifsaitamafacegetsyouageblo7198 3 жыл бұрын

Im hyped for most of the low elo legends or normal legends recordings or wacky strats that make the game as messy as possible and i respect the people that can find winning strat from chaos and mess of a game Thank you for constant day to day uploads too,man '*desperately tries to forget the farm placement from last video that reminded him of 3 archery ranges on neutral island and wonder wall*'

@brigwilson1297 3 жыл бұрын

25:36 "Thank you for helping me procrastinate just like I help you procrastinate" Hits way too hard.

@obu007 3 жыл бұрын

this was too real

@lps89br 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I didn't expect to be called out like that

@Earnie8 3 жыл бұрын

I want to like, but I see you are already on 69 likes, and that is too nice.

@flarik1353 2 жыл бұрын

Yea, that one hurt

@krankarvolund7771 3 жыл бұрын

T90"s brain: I just want relics. T90"s hand: Instructions unclear, made a monk rush.

@fyrjefe3928 3 жыл бұрын

How is that even in the ballpark of a rush? he made a dozen militia line into knights first! I think the word you're looking for is "spam"

@krankarvolund7771 3 жыл бұрын

@@fyrjefe3928 Yeah, probably ^^

@Cytoplasm_ 3 жыл бұрын

Tried this last night as low elo legend (550) and won

@andreasnesto4220 3 жыл бұрын

T90official cast it?

@andyw5962 3 жыл бұрын

“My wrist was hurting because I was playing too much” Sure....

@bhrhsrhsrehsdg 3 жыл бұрын

Hijacking this to say to anyone who wants to help t90s wrist could pass this on with dono or w/e. Had a rsi on my wrist for years, assumed i just gamed too much, did streatches every day yet it never improved. Finally traded for the lightest mouse i could find and i havent had an issue since. Seems obv but its his livelihood at the end of the day

@IHSchwingo 3 жыл бұрын

Guys, guys! Of course he has a gf. We just don’t know her, she goes to a different school

@wintermath3173 3 жыл бұрын

@@bhrhsrhsrehsdg +1, do not wait to address rsi

@happiprod.8160 3 жыл бұрын

@@bhrhsrhsrehsdg i luckily have never had a wrist issue or any kind of chronic pain and Im confused at how others do when gaming. I've worked many physical jobs that use the wrist quite a bit like pushing carts dishwashing at a buffet place landscaping never any pain. maybe its a lack of muscle issue im not sure. and Im the type that will play a game for 10 hours straight if i get a chance

@casusincorrabilis1584 3 жыл бұрын

I see exactly three ways to counter it: Spot it early: Deny the Barack at all cost. Spot it late: Turtle in, go full archers, hit eco and deny castle. Don't spot it: Tip "advanced to the imperial age." and pry.

@tamaskosa3283 3 жыл бұрын

The TC hits in Dark Age: Militia are marching in a coloumn. He aims for the front -> hits the ones in the back :)

@anblueboot5364 3 жыл бұрын

this strategy seems perfect for me ^^ I'm a roughly 950 elo player and just found out how much I love goth spamm, I prefer having messy games because my macro awareness is pretty bad especialy when it comes to raids (I hate hussar raids in imp,... I have trouble dealing with those) etc. so I prefer trying to end the game before this comes into play too heavily even if it means that I need to go on a full on base trade. I surely will try it out in the next days.

@PonceTheArg 3 жыл бұрын

i'm on board with you friend, i'll try it on 1100 elo and see what happens

@bsmith3506 3 жыл бұрын

I also prefer early-aggression messy strats because I hate long games and don't have the attention span and end up losing them because I can't be bothered with trash wars.

@anblueboot5364 3 жыл бұрын

@@PonceTheArg good luck! Hopefully it'll Work for you, I just would hate playing against it

@hotjavalava 3 жыл бұрын

Goths don’t get arson because they get 1 attack against buildings each age starting in feudal

@TheCrimsonSky7 3 жыл бұрын

lol whenever t90 plays he has like a billion excuses for every mistake lmao

@trublood6410 3 жыл бұрын

Not really

@Kakwann 3 жыл бұрын

yeah... but he still better than 99.9% of us viewers XD

@Thetarget1 3 жыл бұрын

I was really tired, my wrist was hurting, he had the wrong civ, it was late at night, air moisture was too high and the Moon was in the wrong phase... which is why I produced 8 monks.

@peterpetrosilius6450 3 жыл бұрын

@@Thetarget1 Its honestly so impressive that he still delivers, tho he makes those random misplays :D

@tommybear4458 3 жыл бұрын

He was obviously being sarcastic tho so not really

@SanyoVojta 3 жыл бұрын

He was hitting your back Militia because maybe he was aiming on first in group, but arrows impacted on back soldiers

@ApocolypseChild 3 жыл бұрын

That was exactly what I was thinking! If he'd had them in a line, the tc wouldn't have been able to land a single shot prob.

@LilGamingYes 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know how T90 doesn't know this... I haven't played AoE II since the first month it came out on Steam and even I know this... They needed to be either side by side or more spaced to not get hit.

@M0rdFustang 3 жыл бұрын

@@LilGamingYes because t90 is low elo legend

@LilGamingYes 3 жыл бұрын

@@M0rdFustang True, sometimes I forget T90 is the highest rated LEL

@walkerhumphrey181 3 жыл бұрын

"You have very busy lives" Villager: Ja

@wishcraft4u2 3 жыл бұрын

I've noticed that building arrow fire is very good at hitting groups, as in, not hitting the unit in front of a moving group, but still getting hits on the followers. It's definitely nothing new.

@Cloud.Strife 3 жыл бұрын

15:24 Go back to work villager: what's the work??? Death

@0Atche0 3 жыл бұрын

the bug with the villagers working, but not really working and being stuck is so annoying dude, mainly cause they don't even show up as idles, so you have to manually look for them..

@Entenuk1 3 жыл бұрын

You can try killing one of them. That way, the others will return to work in fear of your wrath :^)

@0Atche0 3 жыл бұрын

@@Entenuk1 I've tried, in fact they've died in whole groups, they still don't care, they really like their lunch break

@surrehue333 3 жыл бұрын

I love this format. You commentating and explaining your own game like behind the scenes

@foolwise4703 3 жыл бұрын

*Your talk about procrastinating just reminds me I should get back to work*

@HazmanFTW 3 жыл бұрын

12:41 You've been hit by, You've struck by, A man-at-arms!

@brokentombot 3 жыл бұрын

New Goths strat is make a forward barracks and harass them? I guess some things don't change cuz that's been Goths strat since the game came out.

@yeoman1091 3 жыл бұрын

Remember when this bonus was removed from the aztecs for being to good?

@satyakisil9711 3 жыл бұрын

It actually boosts Aztec fast castle in Arena.

@omologo95 3 жыл бұрын

Aztecs could abuse it better, but yeah it's a dangerous bonus

@brandonbrooks6780 3 жыл бұрын

Titanic Icebergs disagree, Goths cheaper militia and faster build time in Dark age makes it more viable

@TheAmazingDom 3 жыл бұрын

It was removed because the Aztecs were too good. More efficient villagers + better drush and no loom research time was pretty bonkers. It's pretty balanced on Goths, imo

@DommHavai 3 жыл бұрын

The difference is that Aztec are a top civ even without this bonus, and Goth are quite weak without it.

@schuylerpierson896 3 жыл бұрын

I want to see more of this strategy. I've always loved the Goths.

@ghaznavid 3 жыл бұрын

Really cool! I have had far more success with Goths than any other civ, but I usually FC and go for a large castle attack around 25 mins with 2 rams and a mangonel, plus 15 or so infantry (and more building to keep the pressure up). Then again, as a 1050 or so elo player, that works a lot better than it would at higher elo - well, I was 950 elo player a week ago, and this strategy has been working really well for me recently! 4 tries, 3 wins.

@lucasb1904 3 жыл бұрын

This strategy works If you dont suffer any attack until 25 mins, i think...

@dimitrikemitsky 3 жыл бұрын

T90 playing an extremely religious Gothic tribe.

@NicolasGarbossa 3 жыл бұрын

I've tried this yesterday with Goths and Bizantines, amazing results. love this strategy, thanks!!!

@xRnChrisx 3 жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for this video

@tomheuser4545 3 жыл бұрын

"thank you for helping me procrastinate, just as i help you proctastinate" hit me hard

@MrChemiluminescence 3 жыл бұрын

Im writing my thesis on this moment. You don't help us procrastinate, you help us stay sane.

@Gabrol 3 жыл бұрын

7:15 the town center is probably trying to shoot the militia at the front and hitting the one in the back

@fyrjefe3928 3 жыл бұрын

I'm curious to think what the Bulgars could do with this sort of early aggression. They have the militia line upgrade free up to Two-handed Swordsman (with a pseudo champion unique upgrade in the castle) and the faster blacksmith. Those advantages of the "extra" food and time saved would snowball quickly.

@DJKr15py Жыл бұрын

The extremely slow build speed might hurt the opening a bit though.

@royvandersteen8829 3 жыл бұрын

I've been using this kind of strategy with Franks Scouts, so immediatly started using it with Goths. My win/lose ratio was always 20 more lose than wins and it's coming close to 50/50 now. Really enjoy playing aggressive

@krystofcisar469 Жыл бұрын

How does that help with frank scouts?

@Jacks_Suffocating_Nihilism 3 жыл бұрын

7:08 Targeting forward units in a slow formation will allow the arrows to hit trailing units.

@garybrackstone8395 3 жыл бұрын

A Spiffing Brit recommended you.. and I wasn't disappointed, very entertaining

@ajbdkla3652 3 жыл бұрын

"I want you guys to try this." Uh oh

@thiagogmoraes 3 жыл бұрын

He`s pushing us to give him some more Low ELO Legends material

@kristoferkrus 2 жыл бұрын

7:08 Notice that when you walk your militia by his tc and it hits you, you walk in two rows and it always hits the militia in the back row. Maybe he tells the tc to attack the ones in the front and the arrows end up hitting the back?

@ernie5229 3 жыл бұрын

Wow. You should do a low elo legends for the blue player. "Again, I forgot to set the gather point for my town center for over 2 minutes."

@CatLoverOreo 3 жыл бұрын

Also you could go for the 5 militia drush that the aztecs used to do in AoC, helps me a lot around 1300's with those who wall very early or just go Fc, which is most of players.

@peterpetrosilius6450 3 жыл бұрын

Yo man, this gameplay is impressive af :D Me and my friend played this game in our childhood and recently started playing again and just now i realize how nooby we actually are lol

@suxix7312 2 жыл бұрын

I'd really like to see a game of 2v2 were one Civ is all Eco and the other all Military. The Eco Civ sents tributes to the Military Civ through the Market. I think it would make for a very interesting game. Please make it happen for us T90!!!!!!

@guillermomartinfernandez8889 3 жыл бұрын

I use this strategy always with the Goths! It's insane and most of my games I make my rival resing before castle

@b.kloppt9525 3 жыл бұрын

Also didn't knew teuton villagers go kamikaze for distraction

@haiqiwen9704 3 жыл бұрын

Hi T90, I am wondering what if your opponent just send like 4 or 5 vils just wall in the barrack? You can not find them with one vil.

@Diana-le7oh 2 жыл бұрын

i know this videos like a year and a half old, so im late to say this: but playing goths and not making a single huskarl is the biggest flex

@thelosian4751 3 жыл бұрын

T90: I'm about to send a very clear message to resign Also T90: Doesn't Outpost rush to send his message

@ryzziktrognesou1 3 жыл бұрын

I was waiting this vid :)

@unimportantcommenter4356 3 жыл бұрын

T90, here is a challenge for you: play as the Goths but you aren't allowed to make infantry.

@ghaznavid 3 жыл бұрын

Would be a bit like playing Malay on a map without water. Your only bonuses would be free loom and vils killing hunt faster. On the bright side - they don't have the worst archery range or stable, especially in castle, so doable.

@silvergrove8517 3 жыл бұрын

Their cavalry and siege are not too bad but that would be difficult to overwhelm an enemy with them. Though, since you would play as Goths and they would be expecting infantry, the surprise might be enough to GG them...

@humansRpepul2 3 жыл бұрын

"T90 tries new strat" Village scouting in late feudal? Next level strat for sure.

@blacknwhite6186 3 жыл бұрын

The legend of T90. 😂

@epiroks 3 жыл бұрын

I did this today as a flank 3v3 in Arabia and they quit basically right away. I also did the Persian TC drop. That one took a few tries but they quit too.

@pinguman13 2 жыл бұрын

Persian TC drop is OP lol

@krystofcisar469 Жыл бұрын

U did persian tc drop with goths? :D what a badass :D Tc drop is garbage. Rarely u can hit timing when it does stuff, but people are tilted about it so it works sometime :D

@KaylaJoyGunn Жыл бұрын

Instructions unclear, deleted my own TC as goths

@TheRealHusk 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine destroying someone with a strat, then the very next game they destroy you with your own strat.

@KaylaJoyGunn Жыл бұрын

...it's learning. Adapting. Predicting our moves and using our strategies against us. T-90? Or T-9000?

@DuckieMcduck 3 жыл бұрын

It did in fact take about 2 decades for proxy barracks become a thing in Age of Empires, impressive

@RennieAsh 3 жыл бұрын

Prieto: you _Dare_ use my _own_ spells against me!

@kevinburgueno5128 3 жыл бұрын

Anybody else trying out this game as a Starcraft 2 player and googled "is proxy barracks a thing on Age of Empires 2" and then got this video?

@Omni0404 2 жыл бұрын

I love losing to something and then trying it myself the next match lol

@LuxiBelle 3 жыл бұрын

T90 blacksmiths with T90 monks

@flikwolf4444 2 жыл бұрын

Would this still work as its not 35% discount in dark anymore?

@nabalienalien 3 жыл бұрын

Does T90 have a new microphone? Sounds different somehow?

@HS-kd6pz 3 жыл бұрын

I would like to see a video step by step and slowly from start to finish for booming or fast imperial age, like where to put initial villages, what building to build and what techs to use and when.... If there is a vidfeo like this already can someone point to me ?

@mightybeko 3 жыл бұрын

This man is me but on a higher elo, i do that strategy by celts and goths also, tried this in Nova low elo tournament

@Sessto1996 3 жыл бұрын

that lumbercamp..

@thekramer1097 3 жыл бұрын

New Goth Stratocaster? This seems interesting

@juanbrits3002 3 жыл бұрын

I do this often with Slavs due to getting barracks up so soon

@hrushikeshj8810 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not a high ELO player so I don't need to worry about this... I ll just curl up in a corner when I see more than one Goth barrack on the map, thank you very much!

@Bolt86 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah! I definitely hate being hit while I moonwalk

@drunkendwarf 3 жыл бұрын

Spiffing brit just gave you a legendary shoutout. Your doing something right mate. Hope people sub.

@garnauklaufen6704 3 жыл бұрын

Why would attack a house untill it's almost destroy, and then start attacking just another house?

@xhmaah 3 жыл бұрын

Entertaining game! I like watching infantry wars. For feedback, as a low elo, I cannot defeat goths. Their strength (free loom, cheap infantry, huskarl) is too much for me. However it is enjoyable to watch goth games at higher elos like this game. Balancing the game for all elo players is impossible, I do not expect from developers. I just try to enjoy from this game.

@AlreadyDeath666 3 жыл бұрын

Lithuanian 3 militia rush as a counter? Push Goths super early onto the back foot.

@sn0wy619 3 жыл бұрын

I laughed so hard 5:20-5:30

@maxw9994 3 жыл бұрын

i tried the strat at 1400 elo and won pretty convincingly. Maybe because the enemy couldnt multitask as good with his console against me at the pc tho. But trying out the strat was fun!

@jerer6885 3 жыл бұрын

was against this strat twice and always beat it. kill the barracks and than go archer counter

@TKainZero 3 жыл бұрын

This happen to me in my 2nd ranked game. Dude dropped a barracks on my face and walled in all my gold and stone. I got rekt

@alwayswnbeme 3 жыл бұрын

nice stratt can't wait to try this out! really want to bully my friends with this :D

@the_rover1 3 жыл бұрын

they'll love you for that!

@alwayswnbeme 3 жыл бұрын

@@the_rover1 haha that's for sure! i'm playing aoe the most out of my friends so to make things interesting i told them i would play against all of them (it was a 1v4) i was a bit too kind and let them live a bit too long sooo i lost. Need to get my revenge next time and this will be perfect! NO MERCY

@the_rover1 3 жыл бұрын

@@alwayswnbeme make them fear goths. Make them absolutely HATE THEM! :D

@noahthomas4341 3 жыл бұрын

Yoooo and the follow up video

@deanthelis5578 3 жыл бұрын

What if you did this with Cumans and put a ram on the enemy's TC right after Feudal?

@deanthelis5578 3 жыл бұрын

@ItsDexGaming Okay, but what if you did it , but like, did it good so you won the game?

@deanthelis5578 3 жыл бұрын

@ItsDexGaming okay but what if you did it, like, not in a weird void where all you're sending forward is rams, and instead had militia into maA along with it, and then did it good and won the video game

@deanthelis5578 3 жыл бұрын

@ItsDexGaming Yeah I didn't read all of it sorry bro

@AnunnakiDNApe 3 жыл бұрын

i think the best counter is champions. champions can handle huskarls, pikes and other champions. Paladins can die to a massive goth pike. the only counter is to do champion.

@eldritch6871 3 жыл бұрын

wouldn't just buying loom from the start be the counter?

@richardm.227 3 жыл бұрын

Great. I'm low elo and I just know I will face goths with this strat now :D

@mauer1 3 жыл бұрын

The guess game about monks was worse than I thought, i gussed 0 wasting the mats for the monk creation thingy.

@lucasb1904 3 жыл бұрын

Goths are the best civ to noobs learn early attack and grow economy at same time, in my opinion

@zachariastsampasidis8880 3 жыл бұрын

Their discount really incentivises even players completely new to all RTS to make some military and use it

@lucasb1904 3 жыл бұрын

@@zachariastsampasidis8880 that's is my case. I'm Noob and when i started to use goths and early attack, my victories numbers grow considerable.

@krankarvolund7771 3 жыл бұрын

T90's micro was full low elo legends on this game under the TCs... so I have one question did you go full LOL and researched supplies? XD

@afz902k 3 жыл бұрын

Goths don't get supplies

@krankarvolund7771 3 жыл бұрын

@@afz902k Oh.... too bad.

@zacmillner-cretney6672 3 жыл бұрын

just tried the strat at ~800 elo. ended up with 3 forward barracks, infantry absolutely melted my opponent, gg at 0:26. hectic

@reflection593 3 жыл бұрын

Does T90 have a discord?

@Arkanic 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like if he stone walled and included celt scorps after you switched to militia line he would have done much better, though he would have still lost eventually once you got perfusion and kept swarming him with map control. Feels like if they let you pull ahead with this strat it's gg unless you throw.

@danielho1123 3 жыл бұрын

what is the twitch of puerto prieto?

@arpanasharma5292 3 жыл бұрын

What!! DURING my time Aztecs used to get the free loom

@krankarvolund7771 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but they loose it because it was too op XD

@megamonkey56 3 жыл бұрын

T90, PLEASE COSPLAY T90 BABE! TY 11

@Daawis18 3 жыл бұрын

you are crazy

@tchellovc 3 жыл бұрын

So relatable, impossible not to thumbs up! 11

@streamofthought8662 3 жыл бұрын

also a goth vill can 1v1 a boar if u kite it out

@user-wj6gm3wx9u 3 жыл бұрын

Good job, you've just invented proxy barracks! (And aoe is like older than sc and there no one who used this strat yet?)

@NomoregoodnamesD8 3 жыл бұрын

forward barracks is nothing new in AoE, but forward barracks + walling resources as goths? not common

@nextgen101 3 жыл бұрын

MONK! I NEED A MONK!

@coreoncrack 3 жыл бұрын

Next, spanish same strat! you kinda promis doing this !! :-)

@sekharpriyansu 3 жыл бұрын

Nice low elo match 😁

@dfhy65 3 жыл бұрын

How about walling in the barracks

@dallumm 3 жыл бұрын

I too often let my villagers die....to be relatable

@nostalgicdouchebag1912 3 жыл бұрын

That TC definitely had ballistics wtf

@PClaud 3 жыл бұрын

"If you play standard with Goths you have problems"... How rude! :D

@tassumasi 3 жыл бұрын

Rise of Empires ad in Age of Empires video. They have no shame

@interzone2785 3 жыл бұрын

t90 new tries goth strat

@tankofnova9022 2 жыл бұрын

As if Britons didn't already had problems against Goths, with this strat they stand no chance.