I was gonna say this. The implementation suggested by Andrew is exactly how Ying's illusions work

thats been there since the start it even triggers from different floors

@@fem-yan Ik which is why I’m confused why they didn’t fix it for like a year

they neglect my waifu there is so many undocumented glitches and very specific ones that i myself have found@@mikehawk1856

Body you did not just steal my ideas and just straight up edit your comment to make them yours 💀 Well I guess as long as it reaches the dev i'm not really caring

@@AllYourConcerns ??? What Bruh Nah man. It’s something many people have been saying, Andrew even said it before. I mean I’m sorry that you thought I’d “steal the comment,” all I usually do is just comment my opinion on something, spitball ideas I have, you know basic comment stuff I edit a lot cause I feel like adding more stuff without needing to add more comments (it’s “cleaner”) and I check others comments to see their opinions but I would comment on them instead of stealing it Hopefully the Devs do listen to us, they’ve been doing real good so far but they can still do more you know

Or can also be a bait/throw talent once enemies know how to play around them....on top of being destructible the explosion range is too small to fear anybody and using this method one can bait any kasumi into a bad position and kill them. That's why base trap design was almost always useless

​@@rkrb3112you dont have to tp to every trap, plus you can kinda place them around corners where enemies will be alone

@@diegomastro5681 That would only render them useless if not tping to them as theres no way to know if they ahead of the trigger radius unless tping asap once you hear the trigger and putting behind corners might be good against noob unaware players but note that it gets triggered even behind walls and also don't fear them...so in a nutshell her trap ability has only become worse with only usage for increasing stacks and the talent that fears them still doesn't work well despite the reaction time needed to tp and trigger

@@rkrb3112 oh i thought it was like spirit bombs, fear on trigger and you have the option to tp. If it's like you're saying then it sucks lol

kasumi was never unplayable, she is just situational and also people don't know how to play her. 600 damage from her traps would be way too broken and removing her identity and lowering her skill gap to be boring. its very strange that her shift cooldown is staying the same at a whopping 14 seconds, going into the flank role. if they really want to make that shift they need to change that.

For real they were funny at the start now they are ruining andrews streams and videos

People are mad that their fav character was nerfed to hell. So of course they’re going to be mad 🙄 I’m pretty mad too tbh and I’d be acting the same way

me too shes hot

it seriously isnt but okay lol. that small increment of aoe is a huge deal when you realize how quickly people respond to stepping on your traps. that card is completely necessary to hitting traps ever. i was hitting 0 traps but got that card in my deck at level 4 and instantly hitting every trap/every other trap. completely necessary to have in your deck if you want any success with her. pretty sure deadly prey is broken because it literally provides 0 value to kasumi if she is running spirit bombs even though weirdly enough that card is in it's default deck.

Yea im so confused

its good, my queen kasumi is honestly just misunderstood and it's a controversial topic. i personally believe that: auto-aim means kasumi should inevitably perform less damage, and having less damage from her weapon than anyone you want to duel segues perfectly into making her champ perform at her best when utilizing her fear traps, which also segues perfectly into her having auto aim to successfully execute targets who have gotten psyched by one of her traps. in a perfect world, kasumi isn't at all an aim champion and more of a 3d chess champ that seeks to outplay by catching the enemy team slipping from mis-positioning and bamboozling flanks.

@@virginboy3d78 i just read "i can fix her" from you, and i can respect that to be honest

1) i argue that the miss lockout should stay and all of those weaknesses you described are all intentional and should still be in play. you see, i think her having auto aim isn't bad, and people who complain about it don't understand WHY she has auto aim. the hefty cost for missing is reasonable, and she definitely has hugely outrageous single target damage. think about it this way, given she has a miss lockout it incentivizes most of her value from hitting fears, rather than running around holding left click on people. by design it guarantees value if you hit good traps on enemy teams, since you can't miss and you will inevitably get 5 stacks of curse on anyone who you successfully fear given you have the right deck, which makes missing almost impossible. it punishes players who rely on getting kills by relying too much on only their weapon and encourages the player to utilize all of her kit.. i think it's almost perfect design but it really needs tweaking. the lockout being reduced i think is good tho. the real problem is when people understand how kasumi's aim works and they try to cheese corners. even so i think that just increases her skill ceiling and isn't necessarily something that breaks her ability to duel. 2) while i agree her range needs a pretty significant buff, since she gets smoked by a lot of champions due to this very reason, i think her damage then should stay the same as it is now and shouldn't be buffed. once again i don't think it's fun to have her character rely solely on her left click and right click to win duels, but she should have defense against characters like drogoz. however i think her escape is perfectly fine and fits her champion model. 3) i understand the frustration of dealing with people who cheese corners but this is, once again, why i believe it's just another intended obstacle that prevents people who play kasumi from relying too hard on her left and right click. it's very easily countered by just placing a trap where they are, nothing less and nothing more. i think people who cheese corners can be outplayed regardless given they want to actually duel you. it's once again something that just increases her skill ceiling, not really a problem with her champion. tbh i feel i've had minimal problems dealing with actually hitting people cheesing corners and i've dealt with more bugs in other aspects with her character, namely the noregs. 4) once again i think this is just another thing that prevents kasumi players from relying too heavily on their weapon and i think instead there should be changes to her trap. if someone gets feared i think they should exit invisibility and have their invisibilities go back on cooldown. i think thats a pretty fair middle ground because i imagine it would annoying as hell to be targetted by someone when you are rightfully supposed to be invisible, but still creating the opportunity to counter it with a fear. also, illum exists if it's really that big a problem. 5) i actually like this idea, and think it helps a lot and creates a little more defense for kasumi. the way kasumi plays when played her best is basically being a silent killer. if someone walks on one of your traps, especially being a damage character currently, that person will get killed in about 2 seconds max without being able to respond. same honestly goes for tanks honestly, she can delete them 2 seconds flat at the very start of a point if your team responds to your fear. however she can get punished very severely in that amount of time and the added DR and ability to continue stacking is a good idea. 6) lol im very biased when it comes to this one because i honestly love hitting savage tears on flanks who thought they were in the clear, especially talus. but if it got changed because of how annoying it was i would understand. i think removing the cauterize aspect would really be helpful too. 7) that is a bit too broken in my opinion. full damage immunity alone is a huge hit and prevents characters like lian from being able to outplay them with ult among just being unnecessary due to the fact that the DR she gets from her escape ability alone is more than enough and adding the flying bit to her escape would overload her kit. if she does make the switch to flank though, i feel like i could see it working, i just feel it might be too much in practice. 8) the way haunted grounds treats traps is exactly why her character is such a dumpster fire right now, and is the unending battle to why evil mojo can't get her character right, and in my opinion, if done right, kasumi wouldn't need any other changes whatsoever. the trigger time of the traps is awful WITH spirit bombs, but paired with haunted grounds, gives the enemy who just stepped on the trap ample time to get away from the aoe. there isn't even a reveal to people who stepped on your trap. once you TP to the trap, you are fully committing to what's going to happen, and once players understand how her traps work, will prove a detriment to kasumi, given her lower damage numbers against literally every other damage and flank. i love how the traps are now. spirit bombs is perfect as it allows the trap to proc sooner and you don't have to risk your positioning to use it, cuz we all know how much of an old grandma kasumi is. it additionally gives kasumi the ability to place and use more traps. also i think the "bug" you are talking about shouldn't exist, it just makes outplaying her almost impossible without resil and reduces her skill level to something completely nonrewarding, and i can also see myself accidentally using my trap without wanting to with a mechanic like that. however, i think her trap going through terrain is massively needed. 9) obviously you know my stance on traps if you read up to here so i don't like that talent idea. simply because it just deletes the one interesting aspect of her character that doesn't generate her to become a left click holding aim bot champ. but i would say there are definitely some cards that are genuinely useless, especially deadly prey, but yeah. in my opinion, i REALLY thought evil mojo were on the right track with how they were designing Kasumi, and my controversial opinion is that kasumi isn't per say bad (talking about damage kasumi), it's just a combination of people not knowing how to play her as well as her being very difficult to play, AND being situational. a champ that combines her core ability in her kit along with her weapon to get kills is perfect. some satisfying and fun trap play to kill high value targets makes her a complete joy to play. its really how she plays into flanks that is the real issue, which is why i predict her winrate will go down further since even with her damage buff she will still have less damage than flanks. you can't realistically trap a flank, which is why the changes i would make to her character would be more anti-flank than anything. i think that when kasumi pops her escape ability, nearby enemies should also be feared, or should at least drop a trap to where she was just standing. sadly i really don't think anyone sees kasumi the way i do which is why i feel the future on her character is quite bleak. i think kasumi is actually designed amazingly way as she is now (speaking before she is a flank) and once again i just think she is incredibly hard to play, situational, and i haven't seen any players who actually knew how to get the most value from her champ (which is more than you might think) besides one master rank kasumi who had explained to me that spirit bombs is her only useful talent. so obviously im quite biased, i don't like the new changes and once again they are making kasumi another glorified aimbot champ, and because the traps got messed up so hard people probably won't even bother to learn how to use them.

​​​@@virginboy3d78 I agree with mostly everything you said here, hopefully she gets tweaked a little in the coming updates to end up being less situational. Still a really fun trap playstyle however! I love the short ghost lady

13:48 was cope but 12:21 was undoubtedly noregs and is a consistent problem with her champion. when kasumi makes contact with an enemy, it does that exact animation and if it really was a miss you would see the lockout animation.

@@virginboy3d78 I didn't notice the animation but his aim at least was off koa when it missed

she plays terribly as a flank. sure, she CAN have good success as a flank, but will get bitched out by any other flank in the game.

@virginboy3d78 she's worse as a dmg character. They made certain dmg characters as flanks and certain flank characters as dmg characters. Kasumi flanking feels alot better than being a dmg.

I disagree with you

They are not going to rework a weapon switching character. If they didnt rework kasumi weapon they are definitely not going to change his weapons and abilities. Also give Vii a break. They nerfed his most fun playstyle and you still want more nerfs?

You have a major skill issue if you are having trouble dealing with VII in current patch. VII is literally a mid-tier flank that gets outclassed by a lot of other champions.

VII is so weak now. He isn’t even viable in his current state. If ur still losing to him it’s def a skill issue.