new linux exploit is absolutely insane

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Low Level Learning

Low Level Learning

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The new privilege escalation against the Linux is absolutely wild. In this video we talk about what a privesc is, how they typically work, and why the techniques used in this one are so wild
Writeup: pwning.tech/nftables/
PoC: github.com/Notselwyn/CVE-2024...
Author: / notselwyn
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@LowLevelLearning
@LowLevelLearning Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching guys! ( come learn C at lowlevel.academy 🥺)
@Daniel-vs7it
@Daniel-vs7it Ай бұрын
hi
@Alfred-Neuman
@Alfred-Neuman Ай бұрын
Ha! I always knew Linux was unsafe! That's why I'm still using Windows 98 and I only connect to the internet with my 56k modem...
@drpoundsign
@drpoundsign Ай бұрын
@@Alfred-Neuman LUV that toilet-flushing sound. I DO hope you are being Facetious and Sarcastic.
@real_yoplayer1
@real_yoplayer1 Ай бұрын
​No, @@drpoundsign, Windows 98 is the newest version of Windows, safe and secure
@ChuckNorris-lf6vo
@ChuckNorris-lf6vo Ай бұрын
OK but I need to debloat my android phones can I use this to root and debloat ?
@PS_Tube
@PS_Tube Ай бұрын
It was discovered in January, 2024. And has been patched already. All the rolling distributions would have the patch already installed. Ubuntu has already issued the patch back in Jan.
@rbgtk
@rbgtk Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@maxturgeon89
@maxturgeon89 Ай бұрын
Thanks! That definitely should have been part of the video
@sunilpaul6891
@sunilpaul6891 Ай бұрын
I got really worried because i run linux; thanks
@zeckma
@zeckma Ай бұрын
Thanks for informing us!
@TurtleKwitty
@TurtleKwitty Ай бұрын
@@sunilpaul6891 A professional researched bug like this is always patched before it becomes public like this, assume its fixed unless it's mentioned it's not
@Swampdragon102
@Swampdragon102 Ай бұрын
The most shocking part of this video was that 2016 was 8 years ago.
@edwardmacnab354
@edwardmacnab354 Ай бұрын
I missed the 2016 mentioned , where is it in the video ?
@NisheshTyagi
@NisheshTyagi Ай бұрын
@@edwardmacnab354 2:02
@maro0ozzz
@maro0ozzz Ай бұрын
@@edwardmacnab354 2:02
@ryadboufar4741
@ryadboufar4741 Ай бұрын
sad reacts only
@jjm7797
@jjm7797 Ай бұрын
@@edwardmacnab354 2:02, you didn't miss much!
@WansVids
@WansVids Ай бұрын
If you're wondering which kernel versions are vulnerable, here's what I found: The exploit affects kernel versions from (including) v5.14 to (including) v6.6, excluding patched branches v5.15.149>, v6.1.76>, v6.6.15>.
@Blaineworld
@Blaineworld Ай бұрын
i’m on 6.8.0 so that means i’m safe? right?
@WansVids
@WansVids Ай бұрын
@@BlaineworldYeah, you're fine. It's patched since 6.7.
@rayauxey
@rayauxey Ай бұрын
I'm surprised he didn't include this in the video
@guilherme5094
@guilherme5094 Ай бұрын
o7!
@Tobsson
@Tobsson Ай бұрын
​@ap3ture0switch distro to fedora or arch. You'll always be up to speed.
@jimdiroffii
@jimdiroffii Ай бұрын
I just read this entire write up yesterday, and I was blown away with the thoroughness and complexity of the research. And, it was only found because the author found a bug while trying to do some work. Most people just find another way, this guy found a wild exploit. Very impressive. Cheers to notselwyn
@stopcensoringmen5044
@stopcensoringmen5044 Ай бұрын
What I like about Linux is that when a vulnerability like this is found, the community comes together and fixes it asap.
@akulkis
@akulkis Ай бұрын
In contrast to Microsoft, who hides security bug reports while working feverishly to replace the functionality of the discovered back door by writing a patch which closes the discovered back door with a new back door. Only then does Microsoft admit that the security issue even exists.
@poisonouspotato1
@poisonouspotato1 Ай бұрын
the sun never sets on the global open source community
@BakelitTV
@BakelitTV Ай бұрын
yes! unlike Windows or other communities where they don't fix vulnerabilities asap. (???)
@Z3rgatul
@Z3rgatul Ай бұрын
linux community has no way to hide vulnerability fix, since fix goes open source. unlike with close source you can make a fix, and hackers will not know what was fixed and they can't exploit vulnerability on unpatched systems. i am not defending close source, I am just saying there is pros and cons everywhere
@Moe_Posting_Chad
@Moe_Posting_Chad Ай бұрын
So how long was the vulnerability sold and exploited before it leaked? *That's the real question.*
@XerrolAvengerII
@XerrolAvengerII Ай бұрын
me, a plucky wizards apprentice resetting user passwords and setting up accounts, watching a KZfaq video about dark sorcerers unraveling death itself and warping space and time
@LowLevelLearning
@LowLevelLearning Ай бұрын
I love this analogy XD
@Dirtyharry70585
@Dirtyharry70585 Ай бұрын
Simply about money and or destruction of property by people who have no morals, and could care less about who it affects or lives that can be lost
@slayeryt637
@slayeryt637 Ай бұрын
@@Dirtyharry70585 there's so many more reasons to want to make exploits than just death and destruction. What about the pure beauty in the exploit itself?
@52665736
@52665736 Ай бұрын
my name is my passport, then only i can be i as good as i... especialy in tron trades of wireless energetic multi androidic communication, were the cyberwar algorithm makes attack due ineffecientcy by having a password different then own name.... entering string linguistic and design of solid state reality... and so on and so forth.... = no pwd, then it is my own PersonalComputer communication fassett!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@demonman1234
@demonman1234 Ай бұрын
We’re making it out of the userspace with this one boys
@pu239
@pu239 Ай бұрын
Hi, this was a slightly unleveled video: It was basic in the beginning with you explaining what the kernel does and about syscalls, and then you explained the whole exploit in less time than that, which was too advanced. I know what the kernel is and that by interfacing with the kernel you are asking the kernel to do stuff. I also understand double-freeing and use after free, but socket buffer freelist/all those page descriptors/modprobe was explained in less than 2 minutes If you spent maybe 2 mins explaining the kernel and syscall basics part and 4-5 mins on the actual exploit, it would have more sense Thanks!
@adammontgomery7980
@adammontgomery7980 Ай бұрын
Nah, this deserves an hour at least.
@a.lollipop
@a.lollipop Ай бұрын
i agree, i got very lost when he was explaining the actual exploit haha
@WasguckstdudieURlan
@WasguckstdudieURlan Ай бұрын
Maybe he did it by intention, it's quite new after all. However he linked the full article in the description (77 min read) that goes into full detail
@aaaAaAAaaaaAa1aAAAAaaaaAAAAaaa
@aaaAaAAaaaaAa1aAAAAaaaaAAAAaaa Ай бұрын
its mostly just data structure manipulation
@patrickstival6179
@patrickstival6179 Ай бұрын
Yeah, I got that same feeling. I will ask chatgpt now about that stuff
@clintonreisig
@clintonreisig Ай бұрын
It was fixed almost immediately. That is a strong advantage of Open Source in contrast to big corp coverups
@GoogleDoesEvil
@GoogleDoesEvil Ай бұрын
If it was Windows, it would have been fixed before it was disclosed.
@kooostia16
@kooostia16 Ай бұрын
@@GoogleDoesEvil it would be fixed after it was disclosed after several years
@YTDeletes90PercentOfMyComments
@YTDeletes90PercentOfMyComments Ай бұрын
@@kooostia16 it would then take 30 years for corporations to implement the fix
@dusxmt
@dusxmt Ай бұрын
A disadvantage is that a whole bunch of companies "just ship" open source solutions based off of Linux and barely provide any security updates, which are critically important. This is one of the reasons I don't like IoT, because it's extremely susceptible to issues like this.
@edwardmacnab354
@edwardmacnab354 Ай бұрын
@@GoogleDoesEvil it would have been fixed ? by windows ? , tell me you don't know the history of windows by not telling me --lol
@incogninto1124
@incogninto1124 Ай бұрын
Time to finally root the Oculus Quest 2
@hyperkiko
@hyperkiko Ай бұрын
it has already been done anyways
@incogninto1124
@incogninto1124 Ай бұрын
@@hyperkiko Why not do it again?
@n0tjak
@n0tjak Ай бұрын
​@@incogninto1124sure
@hyperkiko
@hyperkiko Ай бұрын
@@incogninto1124 i will actually try it on my quest 3, i checked the kernel for the quest 3 and it isnt patched on it
@wheeI
@wheeI Ай бұрын
looking for a poc right now
@Catalyst8487
@Catalyst8487 Ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this kind of video from you! Admittedly, some of the exploit explanation went over my head and I'll need to do some further research on my end. You might have yourself a little niche here of in-depth explanations of vulnerabilities in an ELI5 manner if you want it. I'd love to see more videos like this with other well-known or new vulnerabilities.
@kayakMike1000
@kayakMike1000 Ай бұрын
Running in kernel is worse than running as root.
@dahahaka
@dahahaka Ай бұрын
from my understanding they're not really running or changing that much code inside the kernel, that might be pretty complicated, but they're letting the kernel execute their binary as root by changing a path, that's still not running inside the kernel
@rusi6219
@rusi6219 Ай бұрын
Everything should run in kernel This comment was posted by TempleOS Gang
@kayakMike1000
@kayakMike1000 Ай бұрын
@@dahahaka well, depends. Running inside the kernel could cause a kernel panic and crash the whole system, running as root just causes a segfault
@dahahaka
@dahahaka Ай бұрын
@@rusi6219 niche and I love it
@averagegeek3957
@averagegeek3957 Ай бұрын
@@rusi6219 RIP Terry
@petermathijssen9470
@petermathijssen9470 Ай бұрын
Great that you used one of the Tuxlets in your video, that I made with my son years ago. 👍
@oscarmendez9079
@oscarmendez9079 Ай бұрын
Relatively new here - background is in mechanical engineering but I would really like to learn embedded software development ( for myself and for my job). Really enjoy these types of videos. I will say I always write some of the acronyms from these videos down on stickies to look up later, given my lack of knowledge of the inner workings of computers. TIL what a TLB is. Anyways, looking forward to any and all videos 👍🏼
@edk3539
@edk3539 Ай бұрын
translate look-aside buffer. i learned it in early ee/cs course on cpu's
@arthurmoore9488
@arthurmoore9488 Ай бұрын
Analogy, you know how you can have a reference book which has a chapter list at the front, then every chapter has a section list at the start. That's how these work. Another common trick is to say: * Chapter 1 - Pages 100-199 * Chapter 2 - Pages 200-299 etc... Sure there may be some blank pages, but the hardware can be designed to be really really fast.
@thedtubeteam7981
@thedtubeteam7981 Ай бұрын
Welp, time to upgrade my kernel.
@kolz4ever1980
@kolz4ever1980 Ай бұрын
you think? Might be why distros push out updates..
@ent2220
@ent2220 Ай бұрын
Tell me about it. I'm still on Fedora 37 with kernel 5.15 LTS, which I haven't updated in about 6 months because the updates stopped lmao. I might have to jump to the newest Fedora 40 beta.Luckily 99% of my apps are flatpaked, installed with the --user flag, and I have dconf commands to apply all my GNOME settings. So I would barely have to re-setup anything and will have all my apps and userdata once I upgrade.
@robertjenkins6132
@robertjenkins6132 Ай бұрын
What's the big deal? As I understand, malicious code running in userland could take advantage of the exploit to run arbitrary code as root? But why would you run malicious code on your computer??? My personal policy is that I don't run anything that I'm not getting from a trusted source. You have javascript on web pages but that runs in its own sandbox in the browser (on Windows as well), and if you have AdBlock installed then that blocks a lot of crud right there. The Internet is more centralized nowadays so most people spend their time on a few websites run by giant corporations. Presumably your personal network is protected with a wifi password and firewall. I mean, if you're a network admin and people can come in and run any kind of code on your network's computers, then maybe that's where it would be warranted to be a bit concerned about such a privilege escalation vulnerability. In olden days everything ran as root in Windows 3.1 (or the Windows analogue of "root"), but you would not become infected if you did not click on malicious .exe files (also best to avoid Internet Explorer and ActiveX). I think that if there is malicious code, which might be inclined to _attempt_ a privlege escalation exploit, running on your machine, then you're already in a bad place. In my opinion, it's not good to have malicious code running, even if it is not escalated up to root...
@dustsheep1316
@dustsheep1316 Ай бұрын
I love how you keep it short all the time, I don't want to watch through 40 minutes of detailed explanation. This is the perfect overview - thank you very much
@morgwai667
@morgwai667 Ай бұрын
the amount of grinding through kernel code and memory dumps that must have been put to develop this exploit is beyond my comprehension... now if i add to this that merely obtaining a kernel memory dump is way more complicated than in case of a user space results in me getting a headache just thinking about it ;-]
@hawkbirdtree3660
@hawkbirdtree3660 Ай бұрын
Bugs never went away, but recently, it feels like bugs just did 20 years in prison, and they've been released on parole.
@RobertHyrkiel
@RobertHyrkiel Ай бұрын
I'm learning that the safest way to store your secure data is on a piece of paper
@Gogeta70
@Gogeta70 Ай бұрын
Yep, no better method than writing your password on a sticky note and "hiding" it under your keyboard... lol
@YeeLeeHaw
@YeeLeeHaw Ай бұрын
Only second to your brain, but sometimes the files can get corrupted up there or with package loss before reaching your fingers.
@Sypaka
@Sypaka Ай бұрын
And all it takes, is a pencil to make a copy of everything you wrote.
@oxylepy2
@oxylepy2 Ай бұрын
@@Sypaka assuming the location of the written information is known. Sure it isn't going to stop your kids from finding it, or Boeing, but it works against the hackers online
@someoneelse5005
@someoneelse5005 Ай бұрын
@@Sypakaor a photo but you keep forgetting the whole part of physically being there
@IngwiePhoenix
@IngwiePhoenix Ай бұрын
I am looking at the proprietary Linux devices at home and at work and just... curiously tapping my chin. This ought to be interesting (:
@xeqqail3546
@xeqqail3546 Ай бұрын
Really hope one day I could comprehend all this shenanigans lol .. great vid!
@nunyobiznez875
@nunyobiznez875 Ай бұрын
This works a bit like a digital Rube Goldberg machine.
@TalsBadKidney
@TalsBadKidney Ай бұрын
okay the GH says this blows right through defaults on debian-core systems... does this work on more serious SELinux like RHEL or Gentoo?
@researcher_x
@researcher_x Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your enthusiasm on this exploit. Next time, please try digging into it.
@AadidevSooknananNXS
@AadidevSooknananNXS Ай бұрын
Hey @LowLevelLearning, how do you decide what to learn?
@UltimatePerfection
@UltimatePerfection Ай бұрын
Can you talk about the backdoor in liblzma/xz that lets you avoid SSH?
@softwarelivre2389
@softwarelivre2389 Ай бұрын
He just did! The man is really quick
@BenjaminVestergaard
@BenjaminVestergaard Ай бұрын
The poor guy that was tasked to educate me about Linux wasn't allowed to use an updated Linux for education... he had to stick to one (old) version of RedHat, because that's what the book used... It took me 1 Google, 3 potential exploits and 15 minutes to become root of that educational Linux server. (Okay, I was familiar with Linux before they tried to educate me). I just made an extra root account, which was allowed to login via ssh. Could have locked out everyone else... but I was just making a point about using outdated software for education. Netfilter is quite a problem if it can elevate privileges. But at the same time kinda predictable... I'm happy that it's been found, so next iteration will be safer. Worst is how easy it can be used.
@user-ym4xy6us5e
@user-ym4xy6us5e Ай бұрын
Excellent whitehat hacking.
@enigmatico6209
@enigmatico6209 Ай бұрын
Yeah all Linux distributions probably has this patched, but think about all the routers and phones and devices like smart TVs and everything that are connected to the internet and are probably still outdated, like your router if you have an ISP that doesn't allow you to switch it. A lot of these run on Linux and are likely using an outdated version of the kernel.
@techwolflupindo
@techwolflupindo Ай бұрын
And to think, one can now hack it to put there own updated software that the manufacture locks you out of so you can't update.
@user-ym4xy6us5e
@user-ym4xy6us5e Ай бұрын
@@techwolflupindoTheir?
@haywardgg
@haywardgg Ай бұрын
Should have pointed out that so long as people were doing their updates, this was patched back in January. FUD, for clickbait!
@b00gi3
@b00gi3 Ай бұрын
This channel is so awesome and educational. Look forward to spending more time with it.
@itskarudo
@itskarudo Ай бұрын
you should definitely do more detailed exploit writeup videos! :)
@epolpier
@epolpier Ай бұрын
He acknowledges himself that this is sth beyond his knowledge so better not try it...
@vasiliigulevich9202
@vasiliigulevich9202 Ай бұрын
Exploit explanation starts at 3:47
@claudiu7909
@claudiu7909 Ай бұрын
Hmmm, what I hear is: NEW android rooting method (possibly) if someone implements this functionality into a su/sudo, someone else might be able to port it on android and we'll have a new way of rooting some of the older phones that either didn't have a way to be rooted or didn't have a big enough user base for someone to find a way to root them. ofc this is only possible if the same exploit is available in the android kernel.
@DeusGladiorum
@DeusGladiorum Ай бұрын
You should do a video on the most impactful or crazy bugs of all time, or perhaps per decade/computing era
@ACium.
@ACium. Ай бұрын
Nice one
@raelimec
@raelimec Ай бұрын
I dont understand almost any of these but still catches my genuine interest, congrats bro!!
@supergamerfr
@supergamerfr Ай бұрын
Thank you for the quality content don't hesitate to go super go level and in depth I love it
@kenny-ze8eg
@kenny-ze8eg Ай бұрын
So, this information only makes my situation way more puzzling to me. My respect for you guys is beyond comprehensive. I just wish I could cling onto the information and actually put it into play to fix my situation.
@davidyanceyjr
@davidyanceyjr Ай бұрын
So how do you double free the kernel without being root? Or another privelaged user?
@benjaminshropshire2900
@benjaminshropshire2900 Ай бұрын
I wonder if segregating the kernel dynamic memory meta data from the allocate-able memory would make this harder? Use the freed block to hold their own meta data is nice, but is it an unnecessary risk?
@eliotmansfield
@eliotmansfield Ай бұрын
as someone who spent his teenage years in the 80’s aligning floppy disks who also had an engineering background - I always found that disks would run far more concentrically if you lowered the disk clamp slowly to give the cone a chance to clamp the disk correctly
@cprhroaehssneteonr5488
@cprhroaehssneteonr5488 Ай бұрын
Does this work on all Unix systems? I’d like to know if this can be done on a Mac in any way.
@carlynghrafnsson4221
@carlynghrafnsson4221 Ай бұрын
I had this question over "immutable" os utilizing overlayfs, and escaping containers and chroot in this low level way.
@AWIRE_onpc
@AWIRE_onpc Ай бұрын
Right after i installed debian...
@vaisakhkm783
@vaisakhkm783 Ай бұрын
XD good luck for next 10 years...
@yramagicman675
@yramagicman675 Ай бұрын
@@vaisakhkm783 eh, if I'm not trying yo completely kill the joke it's more like 3 months. Debian does apply security patches pretty effectively. To kill the joke completely, in reality, the bug is probably patched in latest and LTS kernels by now, it's just up to the distributions at this point, and Debian uses a patched version of the LTS kernel
@Excalibur13
@Excalibur13 Ай бұрын
rm -rf install gentoo
@Jeppelelle
@Jeppelelle Ай бұрын
So? Just update the kernel like you would on any other distro
@darthrevan501st
@darthrevan501st Ай бұрын
@@Excalibur13 rm -rf --no-preserve-root
@woahblow4127
@woahblow4127 Ай бұрын
How is double free a thing? Is it for multiple locks on the same file? Lock decrements instead of setting to 0? Are there double lock errors then when files are permanently closed?
@anthonybernstein1626
@anthonybernstein1626 Ай бұрын
Kinda, but it’s not files, it’s memory: foo = kmalloc(whatever); (lots of other stuff) kfree(foo); (more stuff) kfree(foo); The allocator uses the freed memory to store pointers to other free memory so that it knows what’s free (and not to waste additional memory to store this). You can imagine it as free pieces of memory pointing to other free pieces of memory in a long chain. If you free the same piece the second time, it will be in this chain twice. Now if you allocate a new piece, you could get this twice-freed piece back so you can write data to it - but it’s still in the list (since it was added twice) so whatever you write there, the allocator thinks is part of the free chain - so you can redirect the allocator and force it to write to memory it’s not supposed to.
@David-XCsoaring
@David-XCsoaring Ай бұрын
This video was fascinating to listen to as a Linux fan but if I am honest, I have no idea what he is talking about. This is on another level way over my head.
@Ilovecruise
@Ilovecruise Ай бұрын
Hmm, self learning cyber security here, so this attack would not work on environments where Structured Exception Handling Overwrite Protection is enabled, because the kernel entry does not match the one as recorded? Or is it not available on Linux? Thanks
@test40323
@test40323 Ай бұрын
Congrats on doing an excellent job explaining it. Thanks!
@jama211
@jama211 Ай бұрын
Thank you for having a correct title, seen some people saying stuff like "linux got wrecked". I appreciate your title game more for being truthful.
@Little-bird-told-me
@Little-bird-told-me Ай бұрын
_I have learned so much from this channel its amazing. I was scared of writing _*_Hello World_*_ in C until last year, and now I am learning about exploits in the kernel. Thanks so much !!_
@CFSworks
@CFSworks Ай бұрын
Welcome to the field! Now go do the next thing you're scared of failing!
@user-pd5ot4zd4b
@user-pd5ot4zd4b Ай бұрын
Sweet 'sploit, scary 'sploit. It must have been there for a long time and I wonder what other well resourced adversaries were sitting on it in a zeroday portfolio. Appears to require a local user, but also seems to be the kind of thing that might be projected through a web service bug into a RCE.
@unguidedone
@unguidedone Ай бұрын
with grsecurity kernel hardening you should be fine but ill have to test anyway
@chrissimpson1183
@chrissimpson1183 Ай бұрын
So could the same thing be done on Mac OS since it is based on UNIX like LINUX is?
@disieh
@disieh Ай бұрын
I get freelist is probably the prime example where to use linked lists over other alternatives, but for sake of argument assume freelist would have been a plain array (or vector). Would that have prevented the abuse from double free? (Yes I know fixing the double-free is the first priority)
@4.0.4
@4.0.4 Ай бұрын
I love how the author made such a cool graphic instead of just writing about it. It's clearly a lot of steps.
@aga5897
@aga5897 Ай бұрын
Superb exploitation ! The author of that one must really really have a hands-on grip of Kernel code. Kinda narrows it down some.
@TheEtrepreneur
@TheEtrepreneur Ай бұрын
this video finished too soon!! Very simple explanation, this dude might be a great teacher.
@misterrreco2535
@misterrreco2535 Ай бұрын
I'm proud I was able to understand half of this after my OS college classes
@AllForMarketing
@AllForMarketing Ай бұрын
modprobe? You should sign the module if you are using secure boot, right? Does the exploit work with secure boot? kinda tired to look for my self r8 now :)
@cj.wijtmans
@cj.wijtmans Ай бұрын
I dont even use modules. Run a custom kernel with whatever i need enabled or disabled.
@yellingintothewind
@yellingintothewind Ай бұрын
Privilege escalation as a class does not depend on exploiting anything in the Linux kernel. It just means gaining permission to do some normally-restricted thing without proper authentication. This _can_ involve a Kernel exploit, but often means targeting set-uid binaries like ping or sudo. Alternatively you can target a service running with the desired permissions. For example, suppose you have a guest user with ssh-only access to a desktop with a running X11 server. This user does not have permission on /dev/input, nor permission to talk to the X server. Further, suppose this is a legacy system with X11 installed setuid. If the user finds a vulnerability in X11 that makes it change permission on an existing X11 socket to 777 before it drops root, the user can use that vulnerability to give himself permission to talk to the primary user's already running X11 server. Then, through the running X11 server, the guest user can listen to the keyboard and mouse or snoop on existing windows. As this is not an intended permission, gained through an exploit, this is a privilege escalation attack. In practice, relatively few privilege escalation attacks use defects in the kernel. Local-user privilege escalation usually involves finding a misconfigured or defective setuid program. There are also remote-user privilege escalations, usually gaining admin rights on a website or similar service. In this case the attacker doesn't even get permission over a new process, just escalated privileges within a specific application.
@framegrace1
@framegrace1 Ай бұрын
setuid is not used on linux systems from 2008, where `capabilities` replaced most of its uses, and then we have SELinux on top for a long long long time. Been years without setuid files on any modern system. Non syscall derived escalations are ultra rare (Never heard of any for a long time)
@dusxmt
@dusxmt Ай бұрын
@@framegrace1 There's been several privilege escalations caused by bugs in things like sudo and policykit, some of which have been pretty recent (e.g. due to some of the code in policykit being written in a "clever" (read: hacky) way and not handling argv[0] being NULL correctly, CVE-2021-4034)
@yellingintothewind
@yellingintothewind Ай бұрын
@@framegrace1 Really? Because `/bin/su` and 12 other binaries in /bin, /sbin/, and /usr/bin are all setuid on my stock ubuntu VM. Sure, granular capabilities have helped, and programs like firejail take advantage of that to even further restrict capabilities of even normal users (which makes escaping firejails a relatively new area of escalation attacks). More than granular capabilities, dbus (and things built on top of dbus like the typical wayland implementations) use posix file handle passing to grant granular access to system resources across users. For example, X11 no longer is setuid because it gets access to /dev/input and the video card resources by asking for them over dbus. The Login1 provider (usually a combination of PAM + (e)logind, running as root) then opens these files and passes handles to them to X11 for session creation. Like with the possible firejail escape above, this means system services like Login1 listening over dbus are now viable attack surfaces for privilege escalation attacks.
@Ethorbit
@Ethorbit Ай бұрын
🤓
@phobos.anomaly
@phobos.anomaly Ай бұрын
@@framegrace1 _"Been years without setuid files on any modern system."_ - The system I'm on now has like 20 setuid binaries. I'm pretty sure binaries like su, sudo, passwd, mount, chsh are still setuid on most if not all systems.
@diobrando7642
@diobrando7642 Ай бұрын
How was this bug discovered?
@LowLevelLearning
@LowLevelLearning Ай бұрын
manual source code audit. absolutely insane
@weiSane
@weiSane Ай бұрын
@@LowLevelLearningwoah crazyyy
@Reydriel
@Reydriel Ай бұрын
@@LowLevelLearning That's pretty hardcore lol
@dengyun846
@dengyun846 Ай бұрын
That's amazing that someone would just...read the source code like that.
@diobrando7642
@diobrando7642 Ай бұрын
@@LowLevelLearning That is nuts
@pixelgameing
@pixelgameing Ай бұрын
Is it possible to use this exploit to get root access on a Android device?
@stefan8410
@stefan8410 Ай бұрын
I wish there was a linux/bsd channel ran by someone who actually knew anything.
@johnkallimanis1599
@johnkallimanis1599 Ай бұрын
I run the CVE testing code from the github account on a very recent (and patched) kernel and it froze and crashed the system. Very interesting
@heitormbonfim
@heitormbonfim Ай бұрын
I'm loving your Cybersecurity stuff. That's the future
@BacklTrack
@BacklTrack Ай бұрын
I usually kinda understand a lot of general exploit stuff but this is just insane
@ryangrogan6839
@ryangrogan6839 Ай бұрын
Soooo, what is vulnerable to this? Is this something that can happen if you have a socket based connection? Do you need access before escalating? Itd be nice to know how to protect myself and not just how they do it.
@nou712
@nou712 Ай бұрын
This windows users priorities are not to inform linux users like yourself. It is a local privesc so unless someone accesses your system you're fine. If you install buggy software from GNOME and their diverse programmers you open up more privesc possibilities.
@Pharoah2
@Pharoah2 Ай бұрын
It has been patched for months so unless you’ve manually disabled security updates you are not vulnerable
@Pharoah2
@Pharoah2 Ай бұрын
@@lawrencemanning not your fault. I have no idea why he didn’t mention it in the video.
@anthonybernstein1626
@anthonybernstein1626 Ай бұрын
@@lawrencemanningProcess namespaces are enabled by default on most distros. A quick way to check is cat /proc/self/uid_map. If it exists, you have user NS.
@Ch40zz
@Ch40zz Ай бұрын
many of these techniques are used for windows kernel exploitation quite often
@ent2220
@ent2220 Ай бұрын
Yeah except they don't tell you about it and keep them open on purpose for the NSA, CIA etc. I'm also fairly confident that Bitlocker has a bunch of backdoors as well.
@rusi6219
@rusi6219 Ай бұрын
@@ent2220 yeah why use that garbage when veracrypt is available
@kidnamedfinger.productions
@kidnamedfinger.productions Ай бұрын
@@ent2220 Some guy made a video on KZfaq how he cracks bitlocker in 50 seconds. Bitlocker is an absolute garbage.
@elzabethtatcher9570
@elzabethtatcher9570 Ай бұрын
I didn't understand a thing after the graph went up, but I hope kernel patches it soon! Did kernel devs found about this exploit "from the news", or maybe they were given a head start into fixing it?
@michasmarzewski3670
@michasmarzewski3670 12 күн бұрын
It's impossible to catch exploit like this in closed source software. Libarchive that was modified by the author of the Linux backdoor is actively used in Windows for more than a year. We know this thanks to Linux being Open Source.
@pacifico4999
@pacifico4999 Ай бұрын
Sounds a little similar to Asahi Lina's MacOS exploit, that also messed with page tables. At least that second half of the exploit
@spencernold7121
@spencernold7121 Ай бұрын
"In 2016, about 8 years ago", god damn man, you're making me feel old
@downwardtumble4451
@downwardtumble4451 Ай бұрын
“Dirty Cow” sounds like it would be a drink in Wisconsin lmao
@alexlefevre3555
@alexlefevre3555 Ай бұрын
That visual aid chart is very Charlie from It's Always Sunny-esque.
@Z3rgatul
@Z3rgatul Ай бұрын
So, who was affected by this? Any system? Or just very specific network configuration?
@CFSworks
@CFSworks Ай бұрын
Looks like any unpatched Linux system newer than 3.15 (!!) with USERNS enabled. So... the vast majority of them. A mitigation is to set the sysctl kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone=0
@garrettsmith5760
@garrettsmith5760 Ай бұрын
Why would a double free imply a use after free in this case? Are you saying that the memory was freed, and then the attacker somehow induced an allocation at that moment? Knowing that the 2nd free would soon occur?
@aravindmuthu95
@aravindmuthu95 Ай бұрын
the moment it is found the repo would have been nuked with pull requests. that's the power of open source
@00jknight
@00jknight Ай бұрын
I wanna see the faulty code path that can cause the double free and what the mitigation is.
@mihai6977
@mihai6977 Ай бұрын
dude i'm high on shrooms rn this is insane.
@anonymouseovermouse1960
@anonymouseovermouse1960 Ай бұрын
Highly based
@mihai6977
@mihai6977 Ай бұрын
;p
@WreeperXD
@WreeperXD Ай бұрын
asa e frate
@_JohnHammond
@_JohnHammond Ай бұрын
holy poop dude this video is popping off get that root shell 🔥🚀🐚🐚
@jonclement
@jonclement Ай бұрын
what tool created that flowchart? it's svg based..
@spambot7110
@spambot7110 Ай бұрын
0:23 i think the "author of this bug" was probably not using novel techniques, i think they just made a mistake writing some kernel code
@tremon3688
@tremon3688 Ай бұрын
He means the one who discovered the bug
@TunifyBasic
@TunifyBasic Ай бұрын
netfilter is a good attack surface even in wiki leaks you will find some old exploits on linux that uses the netfilter
@joshuaa3075
@joshuaa3075 Ай бұрын
When do you anticipate this to be fixed and various distro's available?
@burnstick1380
@burnstick1380 Ай бұрын
Newer Kernels (6.7+) have this already patched.
@kleoCodes
@kleoCodes Ай бұрын
I'm sick and this vid is already making me happy :)
@LowLevelLearning
@LowLevelLearning Ай бұрын
feel better
@guyblack9729
@guyblack9729 Ай бұрын
So you're saying now I can run system updates without typing my password?
@Beateau
@Beateau Ай бұрын
I always wondered what Dirty Cow was doing to my phone to root it.
@MyReviews_karkan
@MyReviews_karkan Ай бұрын
This is awesome. Thank you for explaining it.
@vladislavkaras491
@vladislavkaras491 Ай бұрын
Did not understand that much, but still was rather interesting to watch! Thanks for the video!
@iamgeok
@iamgeok Ай бұрын
This is one of those channels I go to watch to feel smart. Knowing a little bit about computers, I understood everything and nothing 🤣
@shiftingsandsgames
@shiftingsandsgames Ай бұрын
Programming vulkan graphics lets me at least not get confused when i hear about buffers and descriptors😅
@Qstate
@Qstate Ай бұрын
I thought the entire reason we pass syscall argument by registers and not the kernel stack is that those kind of things don't happen.
@svarodzic
@svarodzic Ай бұрын
Yes, I definitely learned something here. That I am stupid as a rock! ))) Even though I've been doing system programming for 30 years now.
@dck8740
@dck8740 Ай бұрын
What is the best way to learn Win32 API and Windows exploitation?
@mimimmimmimim
@mimimmimmimim Ай бұрын
One wonders how many embedded and iot devices were affected by this backdoor, errr, bug...
@defnlife1683
@defnlife1683 Ай бұрын
Woah the levels this went through. Sometimes I think some of these guys probably put this forward as advertisement for selling exploits or getting hired to develop them lmao.
@brendanlydon5272
@brendanlydon5272 Ай бұрын
I’d really like to know what percentage of your subscribers can actually follow this. Because technically I am a lower level software engineer. But tbh? W.T.F?!?!? I’d assume I’m not alone, but truly some people are on another level.
@TeslaExplorer
@TeslaExplorer Ай бұрын
Appreciate the lecture!
@0oNoiseo0
@0oNoiseo0 Ай бұрын
explaiend really well! thank you
@scootergirl3662
@scootergirl3662 Ай бұрын
LLC has a knack for explaining complicated low level processes in a way noobs can understand, without boring the people that do actually know a bit more. Rare skill.
@keithmanning6564
@keithmanning6564 Ай бұрын
Privilege escalations do not necessarily exploit kernel code, they could exploit weak applications which have higher privilege themselves
i cant stop thinking about this exploit
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