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Comparison is the thief of joy. It truly is. It’s extremely sad how social media has affected our youth.

@@Taravat76 Before social media, there were still a lot of unhealthy beauty standards.

@@kcurran9913 it’s been made significantly worse by social media

youre saying this as if plastic surgery is bad?

Might I add she is gorgeous and she is someone who honestly didn’t need any of those procedures. For some people I get why they go through with plastic surgery but this young woman really doesn’t need it and she’s playing with fire. If it ain’t broken don’t risk it!! I understand there could be an internal battle going on though.

Indeed! And trends change regularly so pursuing perfection when the definition changes just as regularly is a never-ending game that none of us can ever win!

The nose to my eyes is so unflattering. It's way too small, it makes them look like caricatures or something

It's the Bratz doll look.

I'm soooo ready for this trend to END. I am the opposite to all this hahaha, but I never had any trauma with my face

Her face changed from heavy square to u shape

I dont think she had jaw surgery. In that first video she is jutting her jaw to sing, some people do that, her jaw look normal in the other photos.

Or hear me out…she got OLDER 😂🤦🏾‍♀️ For certain face shapes, the cheeks and/or jaws get more defined in mid 20s and by 30s some women get that snatched model face cause of age related facial fat loss 🤷🏾‍♀️

@@augusto7681 I don't so either. Its a reach...

yeah it's called.. puberty. aging. your cheekbones, jaw, and chin grows. you took a photo of her from when she was 13 and compared it to her in her 20's... ofc it's gonna look different. my bone structure is different from when i was 13, too, and not because of surgery. madison had cheek fillers 100% but jaw surgery?? LMAOOO

They do this because they don’t want the average Joe to have access to the stuff they have access to. So they say stuff like “I was born like this”. When the average person has access and starts getting procedures; then it doesn’t allow the celebs to feel different and special

Exactly! Celebrities are on some pick me ish

Especially when there's photos of her leaving a plastic surgeon

People who have something to hide seem to get more upset when it comes to light.

no bc when these changes were spotted they are recent. 2022 and she hasn’t denied it this year

She went overboard with her eyes and nose. She's looking a bit uncanny. Which is sad because she had such a harmonious face. A few tweaks to her look I get but not this many

I kinda wanna look alien

couldn't agree more. she was so flawless to begin with - shame she couldnt see it

Well that‘s good to know for my future nose job. I will keep that in mind what you said😂

Not true at all. As someone who had rhinoplasty it made my face appear slimmer. And it's the same for most people. Obviously there's a point when your nose is already slim and proportional to your face and making it thinner makes your other features looks too big- but that's less common

@dbaisy6094 I meant the disclaimers Lorry put. I think it’s ridiculous because stans sent threats and hate to her. But as for Madison, she was su*cidal.

@@Rebecca-eg1bm yeah i know for legal reasons she has to put a disclaimer but now it’s more so for the people who attack her

she has too after what doja did did to her. she was so nasty to her on live

Yeah there's a lot of crazy fans out there. They'll defend their favorite celebrities to the death.

@@coreynmarie right omg I already wasn’t really a fan but that really confirmed it

You are naturally pretty! And if you don’t mind me asking what blush and lip color is that you have on in your pic? I like them both I been looking for a peach blush that’s more on the orange side.

It's common with people who get maxillofacial surgery. It's changes the look of their face so they start doing surgeries to get it back to "normal"

@@Chilly9058 you are so sweet 🖤🖤! I use Aveda lipstick in Bronzed Pecan + the accompanying liner. I use two faced and Charlotte tilbury flawless filter when I'm contouring. The blush is NARS multiple cream stick in South Beach, I pop that on and do a setting powder over.

agreed! sooooo unnecessary

She should have stopped after the jaw surgery, she was good right there

I agree. The almond eye is often an Asian feature so it just looks kinda off when been surgically done to someone who isn’t Asian. It’s like an uncanny valley situation. Also that just feels problematic to me.

@@madmaddi69 there some people outside east Asia who have eyes like that tho

@@madmaddi69 100%. It's a trend right now for white american celebrities to get this eye surgery. I wonder if it's because of the rise in popularity of asian celebrities? It's just super weird that they all get it, even when it doesn’t suit their face. The trend will fade and they'll be stuck with this weird look

Miley definitely got cheek implants and pr buckle fat removal.

I have large round eyes and would never change them. They are one of my best features. If I got the surgery, fox eyes wouldn’t look good with my other facial features at all. Although I do agree that they are beautiful when they are natural.

It's a crazy idea to me that Lorry's viewers would bully or condemn celebrities based on them getting plastic surgery. Lorry has had a lot of procedures done herself, and one of them even led to a serious complication, so why would her viewers employ such a double standard? As in, support one and condemn another based on the same action? Then again, it is common for people to have double standards so I appreciate the disclaimers.

@@Padam91 Lorry doesn't lie and deny ever having anything done though. She does not chalk it up to makeup. 😂

Ya,but when Lori says believe this girl just because she sensative is kinda ridiculous.she makes videos to expose them but then says if they are too sensative just believe them....im lost

Yeah I get it with Madison Beer too for whatever reason people tend to go extra hard on her.

@@holy9781 I didn't take it that way! Lori shows regular people that the glam of Hollywood is often not all natural, and requires thousands upon thousands of dollars. She's letting us know that these people setting beauty standards have access to things most do not. Reminding her audience not to use her videos to shame these people is just a reminder of what her intentions are with these videos, and it's not to bring down the celebrity, but to empower the viewer.

she literally looks like megan fox

@@jvteam9513 yes!! I was just gonna comment this. I wonder if they go to the same plastic surgeon, being in LA and all. Madison looks more and more like young Megan

This is indeed sad. But it’s Hollywood and their toxic beauty standards we should blame. I don’t think celebrities would actually do any surgeries if they weren’t famous. The industry forces them to do that. Also just imagine how many hate comments they get, ofc it affects them and they instantly feel the need to change something in their appearance.

She looks like half the girls in a southwestern high school.

side eye

It’s extremely irresponsible

@@yasmeenamzk exactly Like she really could've said: " it's nobody's business to know what I have had done or not done to my face and I want people to focus more on music than on my appearance" She is talented and has a pretty voice But behaving the way she is behaving is just not it Like all the extra filters, photoshpping and the lying about plastic surgery will only get people more mad at her than have people like her It's not rocket science to understand that

I agree. I used to always look at her instagram and wonder how it was possible for one person to be soooo perfect

she never screamed at her fans? girl she was getting pissed off at all the hate so she brought it up 😂

Very gross and I lost a lot of respect for her she had me and her other fans looking like an idiot defending her… we looked like Ari fans defending her plastic surgery😬💀

Yes, i have naturally a super thin nose bridge and i have a breath problems but i’m scare of surgery....

i would say it could! sad that these girls are butchering their noses for the sake of vanity. i completely understand changing it, but so many are undergoing multiple surgeries and are going to run into problems. Kim K's nose looked great after the first rhino, now look at how awkward it is currently.

I have a pretty small nose bridge and I have difficulty breathing out of my nose, but that might be bc of a possible deviated septum

@@GR-gk5xs There are many reasons for difficulty breathing, allergies, rhinitis, and deviated septum... your nose is naturally slim so that is probably not why. A doctor could find the cause.

I've wondered that too. To start even as a kid she had a thin nose but it fit her face. I don't know why she would want to make her thin nose even thinner. There's not going to be anything left.

exactly what i was telling myself yesterday! Getting defensive is my number 1 tell sign that the person DID get something done lol they’re really exposing themselves by reacting this way. I expect natural people to take it as a compliment like you did lol. i never imagined someone coming up to me being like OMG you got your nose done right ?? And me getting all upset and defensive about it, unless i DID actually get it done and don’t want people to know. it’s very simple

@@maera415 She said she has bpd so that could also be a factor

@@maera415 i get defensive when a lot of ppl attack me for saying the truth

exactly!! I take it as a compliment too@@maera415

Anyhow it's clear as daylight she had so much work done even if she woould be all chill about it it's still clear. We are sick of these celebs imposing their fake standards on us, normal people who barely afford to live.

Yessss. She’s so unique looking I feel like it’s hard for me to read her face well but I definitely know something is different

@@madmaddi69 her eyebrows are lifted, and her eye area and facial fat look super different too, but I don't know either

Her face screams buccal fat removal and ponytail facelift to me

@@skabwsksiwb I think her look is so unique, little procedures that other celebrities are able to subtly get by with are very noticable to us on her face. Also she's been in the industry for a while now and her looks are part of why she's so well known

I definitely think she's got a nose job. It's easy to spot.

Since the subject of this video atempted suicide over this kind of scrutiny real kindness and grace would be to not make it at all in the first place.

@@krusher74 you’re so right.

@@krusher74 can you elaborate?

shes jealous of prettty girls lol thats why she tries her best

@@an7328 who?

As someone who got lucky with having beautiful features that many want & later messing with it I cannot stress enough, not worth it & the damage it does to you mentally, terrible. I've been able to move on, fix and accept my changed features. I still look good, and people can't tell unless doing pic comparisons. It definitely taught me a great lesson that perfection isn't everything and imperfections are beautiful.

@@rubiibarra2277 Thanks for sharing that. 💗💗

I was borned wife very beautiful features. But then I went through male puberty bc I'm intersex and trans and didn't take puberty blockers 'now I have to get several revisions and other procedures. Killing myself

You’re gorgeous!

@@jordanashtonsmith5436 The person in her pfp is a famous actress called Rita Hayworth, it’s not her LOL

Heres a tip that you don’t have to take if you don’t want! But just always remind yourself that 99.9% of the time these beauty standards can only be achieved through permanent cosmetic procedures. It is impossible to reach these standards nowadays without plastic surgery (not even makeup can fool the eye anymore) remember that they have access to even the slightest procedures to “fix” themselves to however they want to look. I’ve accepted that I will never look like these people because I don’t have access to all of this cosmetic work. The copy paste face is starting to die out because we are loosing our originality!

@TripleTheat yes indeed I just realize she Gaslighted us into believing she never had plastic surgery. When in reality she has had plenty of work done.

The puberty excuse. Her face has always been this way excuse. Weight loss excuse. Grows into her face excuse. Maturing excuse. Changing her style excuse. Aging excuse. Makeup, angling, editing, lighting and other factors that can cause her to “look” a certain way. All those things can affect people, but don’t explain away the differences in Madison’s appearance. Such as contouring may make her bridge look smaller, and her nose tip was sorta upturned before. So, let's analyze these excuses. Look at the pics from 2015 + 2018 at 4:15, which more pics can also be found showing this difference. The nasal tip is more downward in 2015, altho it’s small and subtle. 2018, her nasal sills are higher and more open. In 2015, her nose tip is also slightly more bulbous (rounded). Makeup’s not going to explain those obvious differences. Both pics have similar lighting, angling, posing, facial expressions, likely less editing bc of being from news outlets, and other similarities. The timeframe between the shots is short -- 3 years, so aging, no. Can’t lose weight in your nose tip, as it’s cartilage, altho buccal fat can make the nose overall look smaller or bigger. But as people gradually age, the nose becomes bigger, cartilage can weaken, which is the opposite of getting a more upturned, thinner nose. Again, the soft tissue around the nose can sag or shift to perhaps maybe make one’s nose look smaller. But lol. She’s still very young. Puberty? Lol. She was in her mid-late teens. She was 15/16 in 2015, when her bones were likely fused and done doing major shifts that could have any affects on the soft tissue. It’s not like the pics were from when she was 9 or 10, which likely is the onset of puberty but can be later. Unless she has some kind of puberty-related disease or medical conditions that can cause the bones to shift or change, which I doubt bc she’d likely address it to get people off of her. I’ve heard she had corrective surgery for a deviated septum, but that was a rumor. Who knows how true. I do think Madison is naturally pretty and pretty either way. And I have seen plenty of natural beauties. Like Melodie Monrose. Absolutely beautiful and haven't heard any rumors or seen any proof that she's had PS. So, lol, this isn't jealousy, but bc I like to analyze, am interested in the science of beauty, and want to find the truth. And I can’t deny the obvious differences in Madison’s face that can’t be chalked up to vague reasons like puberty, maturation or aging. If people are going to use those reasons, they need to show in detail and with proof how and why they think those are the likelier or definitive causes.

It sound like ur insecure and jealous😂

Even a mild jaw surgery case can be hard on your joints (I am mild and seeking help ) Jaw surgery isn’t cosmetic; especially hers.

@@LorryHill OMG, you replied 😅☺️ Thank you. I agree, it is hard on your joints, can prematurely wear down your teeth and contribute to sleep apnea and an number of issues. For her it was definitely a health issue but also cosmetic. I have an occlusion myself and snore like a champion. But myself and others, nearly everyone I know would maybe continue to tolerate the nuisances until the surgery was absolutely essential if not for the cosmetic benefits (eg. Wear a sleep device). On all DJS forums I'm on, the main topic people care about is the looks (except the severe cases), they want to see pictures.This surgery is life changing for many people but I doubt the majority of people with mild occlusion would get this if it fixed their clicks but did not improve their appearance or made them uglier, because it is such a long healing process. Furthermore, I nowsee maxilofacial surgerons advertising this targeting cosmetic concerns as the primary focus and fixing various common problems as a bonus. People would do this far less if they didn't come out the other end better looking. Anyway, as a large chunk of people with modern lifestyles have jaw occlusion, most modern people would also need to factor in cost of jaw surgery if they want to look like a celebrity (maybe thats why I think it would be good to know....). It is free in my country for severe cases but not mild/moderate.

Going your whole life with it just means that you didn't had the money for surgert or never went see a dentist. It will get very unhealthy over the years

@@LorryHill I had a misaligned jaw that gave me really bad issues ( jaw getting stuck open, the joint dislocating...) and they used braces to move and fix it. I didn't need surgery to move my jaw. So there's a chance, for some to have it fixed with a very good dental plan without surgery. I was lucky my teeth moved quick. It hurt and took a year, but now I don't need surgery anymore. Also singing and playing wind/brass instruments can mess with jaw placement. Especially if the person has been doing it since a kid.

@@mile_851 it’s not just about money it’s about time . regular people need to work and get two weeks vacation a year where is the time to do the research do the healing etc regular people cannot afford to take the time off work needed to heal from the surgery if you’re an adult

this👆

Kindest comment I've seen thus far

yes people have body dysmorphia for sure and also she lives in la and so many people are so superficial there. I wish women especially weren’t so hard on themselves

amen to that

To me she had cat eyes naturally or just sexy and beautiful eyes naturally.

Thats what I was thinking, sometimes procedures take away beauty.. Like people are born the way they are for a reason.

Her 2018 look wasn’t natural, she started getting work done in like early 2016

Exactly, the "denial" pissed me off. All celebrities have something done, it is the nature of this business, the problem is pretending that the changes are "naturally occurring in their Bodies".

There are photos of her leaving the plastic surgeon office. Like sis who telling the truth you or my eyes

Same! I felt like lorry had missed some of her procedures Madison’s face looked so different to me I was surprised Lordy didn’t see them last time.

tbh i still think her brows are just waxxed. if you look at the space between her eye and her brows, its the same. the main difference is the hair thats been plucked away and her changing her brow shape w the soap brow technique. i do think the rest could be possible.

"Is she gorgeous? Absolutely. Is it okay to keep denying and going out of her way to keep talking about “haters” accusing her of plastic surgery when the most of her followers are younger women/girls? Hell no." im sorry but most women ARE jealous of her. like lets be very veryyy honest right now. Shes gotten hate to a crazy degree bc of her looks even back when she was 14-15. i know bc i was there, seeing it happen in real time, and most of it was due to the crippling jealousy of the others. at the end of the day lorry can be wrong about all this, and madison couldve been honest w this all along.

can you tell me more about your surgery? i've had braces, my dentist told me the reason for my tooth gap is my lower jaw is proportionally bigger than my lower jaw, my upper jaw is underdeveloped making my "nose bone holes" a bit smaller than usual and my mid face area kinda sunken in. it makes my chin stick out when i smile, but i don't have an underbite. i'm interested in having jaw surgery but i'm afraid it's risky or takes too long to recover from.

@@MariaGonzalez-mt3px Sorry for not seeing your question sooner! What I can tell you is my dentist referred my parents to a orthodontic surgeon. That’s who performed the surgery. I would ask your dentist if that’s what you need to do. To go to a surgeon or at least, get a consult.

so sad...she is still so young and has completely changed her face to the "trendy" face...i think people are going to start to regret this look eventually. when the huge overfilled lips and cat eye look are no longer considered "the style" of plastic surgery

I don’t think she had a choice. The industry she is in makes her choices for her. It’s very very sad

In 2018 she looked just like her now she definitely doesn’t she doesn’t even look like her self and this is coming from a fan…

Funny coming back to this comment after she recreated Jennifer's Body in her mv

I asked my ortho which changes from braces were cosmetic and which ones would positively impact my health, since I'm not obsessed with perfect teeth. I didn't use rubber bands bc my overbite doesn't cause medical issues, and pulling my lower jaw forward would make my chin more prominent (along with emphasizing the asymmetry in my dimple chin, which I'm a little self conscious about

She was already very gorgeous in 2018/2019 before the new surgery. So much so that accounts were dedicated to lying abt procedures she had to justify their jealouslyand bitterness towards her beauty.

Don't compare yourself to anyone

@@Dolphinboi cool good for her

@@katherineklevenow1808 easier said

@@litneyloxanIt’s more society’s fault than hers. She’s a young woman living in it and def feels pressure from being a celeb more than the avg person. Maybe get a therapist and not blame celebs

The way i think about it is that the skin as a living organ cannot turn back time so you can only maintenance how droopy it gets for some time with plastic surgery before it droops again.I think facelifts maintain how tight your face looks for more years than you would naturally have it unless you are at an age with a lot of saggy skin so you can remove it and have yourself look younger again.

Thank you ❤️🥰

Ur initial thoughts is correct. Lorry used photos where it was contoured really small. Look at Madison's nose from a month ago in a make-up free video she did w/NikkieTutorials it is called, "POWER OF MAKEUP: Madison Beer! ". Her nose shape looks normal/a lot bigger than showed

At this point u know it’s soo refreshing to see someone like saorsie ronan or Florence Pugh. Everyone has this same insta plastic surgery look with the extra contour and that snatched look. I would be elated to see someone Selena Gomez or smth

Thank you ❤️

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It’s a lot worse to lie about surgery than to be scared of what people think. You have to learn to not care what people think. Yea, you’ll be criticized no matter what you do. But it just comes down to basic human decency when being open about your work, instead of denying it and saying “I’m natural”

Well now I wouldn’t go *that* far lol

Subtle? Girl pleaseee lol

her face is way too angular and pointy now which I think makes her look very uncanny valley and gives her a way more masculine look compared to her younger face that was more soft and feminine now she looks like all the other ig mean girls

I disagree too, I've had jaw surgery myself and there's no way any surgeon would perform such a risky major jaw surgery that's pretty much reserved for reconstructive purposes on someone with a perfectly developed jaw just for some slight cosmetic changes. I think people don't understand that it's a pretty serious surgery and the recovery is a lot to go through, it's not like some surgery you can just get willy nilly and under the radar without people knowing and have it heal in a week. You can't even open your jaw or eat anything but liquids for the first month and a half for petes sake. No surgeon i've come across (in the US at least) will do double jaw surgery for purely cosmetic reasons, even the high end ones. It's too risky.

She didn't have jaw surgery. Lorry has a very warped view at times since she had her soooo many cosmetic procedures herself. It's the braves plus lip fillers making it seem that way

agreed