I think they're on the roadmap for 2024

Yes and Yes! We are still awaiting inventory as most of these kits are still just going into production now, but we should have a kit in to at least test any time now.

These will have the same number of options for their other kits so there should be 590 and 660 pound per inch springs in varying lengths.

They are focusing on modern strut suspension vehicles like Tacomas, Hilux, 4Runner, and Ranger now, and we have not heard of them extending fitment yet, however they already make their top of the line BP51 shocks and complete kits for the Defenders so I would not be surprised if MT64s are coming too.

We'd go with Eibach or Fox for a bit smoother response on-road. Eibach is more affordable, and will arguably last longer

it may be a while until we get to their new offering

Yup! They will be available for both the front and rear with the same big 64mm pistons. We have not gotten any in to test just yet, but that is definitely happening soon, and we think they will be very comparable to each other given their similarities. It might be the typical deal of the Bilsteins win in the handling department but the OME might be more comfortable, but we reserve any true judgment until we can do some real-world testing for ourselves. Where we think these will win big, though is really on those rear shocks. Bilstein usually pairs their 6112s with 5100 or 5160 rear shocks and often does not carry a 60mm piston smooth body alternative for their rear shocks, so that is definitely a plus in our book. We think these 60ish mm piston or 2.5ish inch body type shocks are right for many people too. The larger body and piston size allow the shocks to be way more supportive without having to use as restrictive or as stiff valving as the more common 2" body shocks, so you get the performance without sacrificing comfort. The problem is most 2.5"+ shocks are only available with external reservoirs, and most people will never drive their rigs hard enough to even get basic 2.0 shock warm, so you end up spending a lot of extra dough on performance you do not need. So at the very least they hit a sweet spot in the market that is lacking right now. Whether we like the Billies more or not, we are confident these will get a fairly high spot on the "Goldie Locks List" of just right shocks for the average driver.

@ShockSurplus thanks for the response, any idea on the type of valving?

​@@LancerNik13digressive, but high flow valving, so similar to icons approach to damping

will have a limited run available in a couple months

Available yet??

The tundra mt64 are a ways off

Yup! However knowing ARB, it will be a heck of a long time before they will need it.

@ShockSurplus thank you sir! 👍🏻

They aren't available for that vehicle, but we'd suggest the Fox 2.0 for those conditions and use. There are also icon and fox 2.5s that will work well, but more expensive

@@ShockSurplus will they also work good win towing? And the Fox 2.5 are out of stock. I’m a semi truck driver I love the smooth ride of a erase suspension and I wish my 2019 Chevy 3500 had that same ride. It is a smooth ride win I have a load on it, but is stiff as hell when I’m empty. And I’m also looking for a shock that will last too.

Unfortunately you probably will not be able to have it all in one shock, but a Fox 2.0 CD adjustable shock would likely do the trick, they wqill just need service every 30-50k miles. We charge $100 a shock for rebuilds so if you did go that route, we could also take care of those services for you so they last forever.

@@ShockSurplus will the 2.5 Factory Series Reservoir last longer? And what is the difference between the Fox 2.0 and the Fox 2.5? And the 2.5 Factory Series Shocks w/ DSC Reservoir.

@@ShockSurplus what’s your thoughts on the B8 5160 w/ Remote Reservoir Shocks Front Pair

No unfortunately that vehicle isn't on the release list as of yet