Same. Reckon they'll do another album? I hope so since they've been touring a lot since music complete.

If by 'dorks' you mean 'off their fucking tits', then yes they are dorks.

Been taking lots and lots of them dork pills yeah?

A dork is a mis-shapen penis.

He learned to speak for this video.

He always sounds like he's telling the funniest joke

He spoke in an interview at 1979 when they played at Something Else. You can watch the video in KZfaq

He spoke on Joy Division Documentary film

jajajaja

I cant wait for his autobiography

Joseph Marrero he seems like the only one who can give an unbiased view on the Hooky v Barney situation.

That's debatable, since Steve is still in New Order with along with his wife Gillian. I can't imagine he's going to tell 'the whole truth' regarding the ups and downs of working with (for?!) Barney throughout his career.

I love Stephen. Amazing drummer and seems to be a nice lad.

I heard he's low voltage when it comes to spillin the beans

12" floppy, very rare format that couldn't compete with 8" 5¼" and 3½"

that was a myth, sorry.

​@josephkyle1557 It is true though. It's well documented that they lost 5 pence on every copy sold, and it became the biggest selling single in the UK for a while. It's not a myth.

k___g___ b___ that’s the time when the digital synths were getting hyped. Now it’s the other way around.

onenarrowdoor

You mean Hooky was miming the drums, or playing them shitly to annoy Bernard? When they played live on TOTP Hooky hits the drum one time too many with his hand and there's no sound, so I wondered if he did actually mime the drums?

Very few bands were live on TOTP.. unfortunately.

With the very noteable exception of New Order, who insisted on playing live each time or they wouldn't do it. Hence my enquiry above, as it seems odd Hooky would mime drums when they made such a song and dance about being allowed to play live.

Ohh nice one...I sung live every time Combawomba came on TOTP🐵🐵🐵🐵

DiamorphineDeath Interesting too, I've read that Joy Division was moving in the direction that New Order ended up going in. One of the 'great ifs' as to how JD would have gone.

mark anderson I think one of them said Ian would’ve sang Blue Monday. :(

@@markanderson3870 Yeah, listen to The decade from Closer. You can definitely hear that New order in there even as far back as no love lost

This is great, I always thought this artist was Depeche Mode. Live and learn.

It's not a secret, they went to NY, went to the clubs and wanted to produce similar stuff to what they'd heard there.

Pete certainly new how to rile Barney

To have seen them in four different decades has been a privilege. 81, 87, 94, ‘08, ‘17. Plus Hooky last year killing it on complete play through of “Closer.”

Roy Mustang omg I agree !!!

Jonas de la Plata it depends, but I think I'd rather hug him instead lol

***** I think you do too ;)

***** you could be tho

***** yeah pretty much! And I think you like to suck too since ya mention it so much ;)

You should get in touch. I'm sure they will welcome your skill and expertise.

And that thick Dutch accent too 😂

Seconded. Love this.

The Toyota Corolla is the best selling car of all time. It doesn't make it great.

@@leoarc1061 it’s reliable and popular

@@the_fifth_wheel So popular, in fact, that when one passes by nobody even notices it.

​@@leoarc1061what are you on about mate, corolla is fun cool little car to drive around 😂

Yes... the last remnants of the empire.

You are one lucky bastard 🥁😉

Batcavesales Batman...I am from Centennial, Colorado and have seen dozens of shows at Red Rocks Amphitheater...it truly is the 8th Wonder of the world!! Justin Hayward, of the Moody Blues played with the Colorado Symphony on a live recording in 1992 and loves the place.❤❤❤John Keating

Super jelly

tour w/ pil and sugarcubes was technique in '89. saw them then as well. 1987 us tour was co-headline with echo and the bunnymen

I saw the show in Philadelphia during that tour with Gene Loves Jezebel opening.Great show.Never got to see the Sugacubes,but saw PIL open for INXS.

He is!

Kyoko - looks like you missed the Winky Face, he was busting balls! 😝😝

He’s a monster on the bass tbf- absolute legend

Audun Laading was a close second.

And he (some of the time) plays a very unique bass that no one else (famous) plays, the Shergold Marathon 6 string.

It was the same in some respects. You had the big record companies, radio stations, TV trying to keep everything mainstream and commercial as possible. You have it better in some ways. You can access non mainstream music online, go to the bands sites and through specialised digital radio stations there's many more options. On the BBC we had an hour a night of John Peel, some alternative stuff through the 2 Kershaws, occasionally some stuff on late night TV, very occasionally on totp, NME, Sounds, word of mouth or go to the gig. Gate keepers everywhere. It wasn't all better then.

sidewaysonhighways agreed

They all were.

My mom always said my dad looked like him when they met.

I can hear some similarities between Atmosphere and Ceremony. The guitar in Ceremony sounds a bit like the synths in Atmosphere, to me at least.

I think everythings gone green sounds like an early blue monday

these were punks, of course they dressed like regular folks you can't forget the indulgence of the glam-rock stars

Реально

Бернард милашка всегда

Yes, but this is Dutch count down...en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countdown_(Dutch_TV_program)

Yep, the Dutch Countdown with Erik de Zwart as the ever annoying host.

@@ronanrogers4127I thought that was a Dutch accent

*bass

@@attackinberlin5895 I'm sure he's not holding a fish

The whole song is essentially one big sample lol

It’s crazy to think how easily you could execute this whole song at the push of a button now but these dudes are legends for manning that transition

Yes. If you read Hooky's memoir about Joy Division, he is *very* critical of Bernard being a control freak--both before, during, and after Joy Division. I think Hooky's books post 2007 have been cathartic for him--a lot of pent up anger at Bernard. To be fair, I think the evidence is there that Bernard was a control freak about the group, especially after Ian died. If you read Brian Edge's book, New Order + Joy Division: Pleasures and Wayward Distractions, I believe he quotes Hooky as saying something to the effect, "Bernard can be a genius, but there's a fine line between being a genius and being a dickhead."

Possibly he was a control freak to an extent, but Hooky was a very abrasive personality. The way he is behaving now with the whole royalties dispute is very childish imo, and it is pretty telling that Stephen and Gillian are perfectly happy to work with barney nowadays and produced a cracking album together, while Hooky plays Joy division covers with his son and writes books laden with bitterness. His revelations about his marriage to Caroline Aherne 3 months after she died from cancer was a classless move as well.

Possibly he was a control freak to an extent, but Hooky was a very abrasive personality. The way he is behaving now with the whole royalties dispute is very childish imo, and it is pretty telling that Stephen and Gillian are perfectly happy to work with barney nowadays and produced a cracking album together, while Hooky plays Joy division covers with his son and writes books laden with bitterness. His revelations about his marriage to Caroline Aherne 3 months after she died from cancer was a classless move as well.

Possibly Bernard was a control freak to an extent, but Hooky was a very abrasive personality. The way he is behaving now with the whole royalties dispute is very childish imo, and it is pretty telling that Stephen and Gillian are perfectly happy to work with barney nowadays and produced a cracking album together, while Hooky plays Joy division covers with his son and writes books laden with bitterness. His revelations about his marriage to Caroline Aherne 3 months after she died from cancer was a classless move as well.

Well, as Peter Hook basically says in a youtube interview, 'Barney's account of the events are false, mine are true, and if Stephen was not in the band with him and was on his own, Stephen's story would be much like mine.' Stephen never says anything, and never fights with Barney, so why should he mind playing in the band and making easy money? I have read both Peter Hook's book and Bernard's book. I wouldn't say Peter Hook's book is laden with bitterness any more than Barney's is. My impression (I obviously don't know either of them personally), is that Peter gives a factual account of what happened (not just the breakup, but every year of New Order's existence, some really hilarious anecdotes, great details on the recording sessions, etc.), while Bernard only really talks about himself and mentions the others in passing, and writes the book as if it's a work of fiction but true; by that I mean he interjects descriptive language about events which make them seem fabricated. Bernard also implies credit of a LOT of what New Order created. The end of Bernard's book gets really new-age like, while he's trying really hard to convince the reader that he's completely happy (he struggles with depression), and that he only wishes Peter Hook well, while in the meantime slagging him left and right. And for all that Peter Hook complains about Barney in his book, he continually says the Barney was less of a pain than other lead singers he got close to! Not to mentioned Peter Hook refers to Barney as the best guitarist in Manchester (better than Johnny Marr), and a musical genius, but a twat. In fact, if you want to sum up their relationship, from what I got out of the book: Peter and Barney always fought a bit, it was healthy, Barney was a twat and had a controlling personality, Peter Hook got sober late into the production of "Get Ready", and nothing really changed to cause a breakup except that now Bernard was not so easy to take without the booze and drugs and partying, so they split.As for the "modern new order" producing a "cracking album"...New Order hasn't done that since "Power Corruption and Lies". They are so mainstream and formulaic these days it's boring.As for Pete Hook playing covers with his son...if I were a musician, it would be a dream to pass that on to my son and get to play with him live, I do not fault Peter for that at all. And, if you remember when that all started, Bernard said he would never "go back in the catalogue" to play those old songs, but he's doing it now, isn't he?

BERNARD ENVELHECEU TANTO, QUE PARECE OUTRA PESSOA.