That would be bad ass. Maybe if I LS swap my 944 it'll seem more like a lifted 928.

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Yeah, the longer I have this thing, the more I notice it’s not nearly as clean as I thought it was when I bought it. So naturally, let’s give it a slow death by gravel.

Thanks! I'm pretty excited about this. Can't wait to make some videos actually driving it.

Sounds like a fun project!

Good call, thanks for the heads up. I'll start using those inner frame rails. On my car, the frame rails are a little deformed, presumably from someone using them incorrectly, which is why I didn't want to use them again. But I just looked on Clark's Garage, and you're right.

Thanks!

Thanks!

If I can inspire only one person to take on a dumb project, I’ve done my job.

Ah, that’s good (not for those people) to hear that my concern is valid. And yeah, even if it’s not taking all the weight, a lower bolt failure with the TB in can still be driven.

@tfrasca142 definitely can, my buddy broke his at the Rallycross event at 944fest last year and he has the same setup as me. He was able to drive his car 9hrs back home with only 3 coilovers 😳

Thanks!

I thought about that bolt still taking more than it would at stock ride height, but figured it’s still better than no torsion bar. I’ll definitely be keeping an eye on the bolt. Also, you’d think the rear spring+torsion bar would be much stiffer than the front, but it doesn’t feel that way. Again, I haven’t been able to put many miles on it as it’s not aligned yet. But I do think I’ll end up with softer springs all around, eventually.

@@tfrasca142 You can help the bolt resist bending by putting a larger outer diameter spacer in the position between the shock and suspension - the spacer will provide additional support when the bolt starts to flex. As it is, I don't think that spacer is too thin to resist shock loading from big hits very well, as the mating surface on the torsion bar is much larger and it looks like just a thin aluminum assembly. The ideal setup would be a shoulder bolt with the minimum amount of threaded length in the spacer itself - I'd start with an outer diameter matching the clean area on the suspension assembly and step it down to mating side of the shock at the end. Then the majority of the loading under hard hits would transfer into the spacer and then the suspension assembly, as opposed to relying mostly on the bolt.

Yup, I agree with everything you've said here. Maybe it's a good excuse to get that lathe I've been wanting...@@Neosho1337

I can’t believe you’re the first person to challenge me on that.

Thanks. I've been trying to just go through with dumb ideas more often. Turns out, it's pretty fun.

Thanks! Here’s that link: ceika-store.com/collections/custom-coilovers/products/ceika_custom_coilovers_for_porsche_944_na_-86-91

I figure they’re still doing a little, and as the car sags further into the travel, they’ll be doing more to help take at least some of the load off the lower shock bolt. I’m thinking of it as almost a progressive bump stop, if you will.

Definitely. As the ride height goes up, the camber goes more positive, and the toe goes in. Castor will also be affected, but the hope is that it can all be corrected with an alignment. Once I get the tie rods in and get it aligned, I'll make an update on the ride height and what (if anything) I had to change.

@@tfrasca142 I suppose worst case it's a matter of custom making shorter and/or longer suspension arms.

Yeah, longer front control arms would help with camber, but I won't be doing that on this car. Playing around with the camber plates on the front, I was able to get visually more negative camber than needed, so I think it'll work out. I don't know about the rear, though. Will have to wait to see what the alignment tech says. @@chappardababbar

Thanks! Here’s that link: ceika-store.com/collections/custom-coilovers/products/ceika_custom_coilovers_for_porsche_944_na_-86-91

@@tfrasca142 👍

Not currently, but I did recently see a video where a guy got his working with modern bluetooth, so maybe if I get bored enough...

Glad to hear it!

$1k is a smoking deal. I paid 4 for mine and still feel pretty good about it.

The best Harbor Freight had 10+ years ago.

Did you also get the nine one one, or do you call it a nine eleven?

Its a Nine Hundred and eleven@@tfrasca142

@@tfrasca142 good point ... are they made from aloominum ,, we got the aluminium ones too

Yeah, that's a key difference between the 944 and the 944. We got them aloominumb trailing arms. @@tomthompson7400

@@tfrasca142 it looks great with a lift all the same ,,, way better than all this lowering carry on ,,,, a big wippy Ariel would finish it well ,,,

Haha, I reply thought more people would take that bait.

@@tfrasca142 looking forward to seeing more of your “safari build” You could describe it as Aussie build too 🤔

By many metrics, it’s absolutely ruined.

@@tfrasca142 Germans believe in purity, Ferdinand Porche engendered that car to road race not to go mudding its ruined. Ach du bist ja nicht mehr so viel Spaß gemacht und Schlaf schön meine süße Träume und Schlaf.

@@Workerbee-zy5nx that’s the cool thing about owning a vehicle. You can do whatever you want with it. How is your 944 set up? Also “Germans believed in purity” isn’t the best hill to die on…

@@tfrasca142 would you 4x4 a classic jag and Ferrari? If so then you should settle on a jeep..🤔

@@Workerbee-zy5nx first of all, a non-turbo 944 base model isn’t a rare or particularly sought after car. And secondly, I already have a 4x4 Land Rover. The fact that you’re equating a sports car with mild all terrain tires to a purpose built off-road 4x4 tells me you don’t know much about off-road vehicles. Enjoy keeping your 944 stock, like Ferdinand intended.