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New Seagate 20TB Ironwolf Pro and EXOS Hard Drive Fully Revealed

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It's been in the pipeline for a while (originally revealed way back in Jan 2020 with hopes of arriving in Q1 2020 and developed deployed in the background since) that Seagate has had a planned 20 Terabyte 3.5" SATA and SAS hard drive for 24x7 server use - but data center users may well be looking forward to an end of 2021 release. Arriving in their popular Ironwolf Pro NAS server and EXOs data centre-class series, these are among the biggest commercially available drives in the market and are a real feather in the cap for Seagate - who recently announced their roadmap for reaching 20TB, 50TB and a staggering 100TB by 2030 - see video here. Both the EXOs and Ironwolf Pro 20TB hard drives are arriving with helium seal design, high workload rating, CMR architecture and maximum drive speeds reported at 285MB/s. For those concerned with early adoption, 20TB Hard drives have already been in usage with the likes of major cloud companies and providers (for example Facebook, Google, Amazon Web Services, Azure etc) for well over a year now, so this tier of storage is by no means in its early days of development. These are going to be some serious kit (with the EXOS series arriving in SATA/SAS and onboard encrypted hardware versions) that are going to be available to the average company. Let's take a closer look at each of these drives, how Seagate hit the big 2-0 and whether these should be your next big business storage purchase to hit the Petabyte mark?
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@jamesdk5417
@jamesdk5417 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the LOL’s. “Throw it in the river” 😝
@nascompares
@nascompares 2 жыл бұрын
Ta
@hughhemington9559
@hughhemington9559 2 жыл бұрын
As the capacity increases, the granularity of redundancy is reduced, so with more data at risk, RAID6 becomes imperative. At what point is it better to run multiple NAS units? For most of us, $/TB is the key factor.
@nascompares
@nascompares 2 жыл бұрын
I think the target demo for drives like these already enters a pretty hefty tier of storage user who (I would hope) would consider RAID 6 the minimum, as well as a remote network server backup. Even as little as 4 of these drives and most office internet services would make cloud backups a no go. Then you have the EXO unit that is targeting petabyte storage tiers... These drives are a very cool flex, but yeah... Not really gonna be SoHo or average SMB purchases
@modbox9560
@modbox9560 2 жыл бұрын
Shingled magnetic recording vs pmr. Smr can overlap data tracks it's how it gains more GB I've seen it done inside newer 2.5" seagates I have an exos 16tb it's fully pmr I can't say if they switched to exos smr after 16tb
@remyazharyyosef1811
@remyazharyyosef1811 2 жыл бұрын
I used this for my ever-expanding Plex movie library on my Synology.
@reto4214
@reto4214 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for the video! 12TB Iron Wolf (non-pro) are currently priced the same as Exos 12TB where I live. Which of the two would you choose for an 8 bay Synology NAS sitting in the living room? I'm currently using 8TB IronWolf and the noise level with those is not an issue. Thanks again!
@mdd1963
@mdd1963 7 ай бұрын
The synchronizing/resilvering for BTRFS RAID 1 on my pair of 14 TB Ironwolfs will take ~18 hours it seems...!
@tommybronze3451
@tommybronze3451 2 жыл бұрын
the good thing about spinning rust is that if you power it down for few years, you still will have your data ...
@modbox9560
@modbox9560 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I can for sure verify alot of newer drives after Seagate gain more memory cause they can shingle magnetic recording overlapping tracks there's pros and cons EXOs are pure PMR drives verified up to 16tb
@LordRythorn
@LordRythorn 2 жыл бұрын
I can confirm that both 18 TB and 20 TB pro drives have exactly same dimensions and thickness. According to qnap official website the 18 TB drive, currently is compatible with QNAP TS-453D but it is not supported by Seagate IronWolf Health Management in the current QTS version. Qnap website says that support will be added for this drive in the future releases (4.5.2). Any good reason not to get the latest 20 TB version for my QNAP TS-453 NAS? Qnap email service support would be useless at this time, I know for sure, they didn't test the 20 TB drives for my NAS, but they will do it in the future... I'm not quite sure why drive tests takes so much time, particularly for the top hard drive manufacturers.
@leotheevinci
@leotheevinci 2 жыл бұрын
Does EXOS drives have higher failure rate (DOAs) than other drives in the market? I checked Newegg, Amazon etc reviews, they'll have some DOA's in their batch.
@attilavidacs24
@attilavidacs24 2 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to build a new Plex server. Which drive is more ideal, the Ironwolf or Exos? Also should I run something like a HBA card on TrueNAS or a RAID card on Windows?
@mathewcrick
@mathewcrick 8 ай бұрын
Love the eastenders and coronation street comment. You are a legend!
@mcsafemcsafe5666
@mcsafemcsafe5666 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking at the Seagate vs WD share price ($43 diff between them $56 vs $99 Seagate). It's clear Seagate are leading the way for mass capacity storage for good reason. OEM Cloud guys trust them & need them as tech/data needs advance. WD are behind and in the years to come they'll be a clear separation. Bitter sweet with past failures but I've had more failures on WD / Tosh but each to their own. Reality check is, Seagate are clearly the biggest data storage supplier Worldwide. Bravo on 20TB, HAMR, MACH 2. Mind blowing stuff. If you do chuck in the river you can send it back with their data recovery service for free Haha. @Robbie does it cover Seagulls pooping on them?!
@Jeff-cq9ed
@Jeff-cq9ed 2 жыл бұрын
I have been watching a lot of your videos and appreciated all the information you provide. I ordered the QNAP 253d nas and have been going back and forth between the Seagate Ironwolf 4tb and 6tb. I know you get 7200rpm on the 6tb as well as 256 cache as opposed to 5900rpm and 64 cache on the 4tb. Is the 6tb much louder than the 4tb? Is 64 cache to small? Thank you in advance
@Ultrajamz
@Ultrajamz Жыл бұрын
Really want to consider exos since it has much better performance per dollar but the noise has me concerned
@richardajoy79
@richardajoy79 Жыл бұрын
I'm looking for a high-capacity, budget-friendly, yet quiet drive...these two will definitely be passed over for something else, I better keep looking.
@Zainphotography
@Zainphotography Жыл бұрын
Exos 7E8 has been replaced by Exos 7E10 and Synology hasn't updated their compatibility list?
@RedZerom
@RedZerom 4 ай бұрын
Owner ds 220+, 20tb exos users here? Just bought one, will it work?
@Mr.Goodkat
@Mr.Goodkat 7 ай бұрын
I'm thinking of buying a new laptop, any clue how to make sure you can fit one of these into it?
@Mike0193Azul
@Mike0193Azul 2 жыл бұрын
Barracuda pro was discontinued for a upgraded upcoming model. Is it these or are there still more upcoming new models such as a new barracuda pro?
@mcsafemcsafe5666
@mcsafemcsafe5666 2 жыл бұрын
BC Pro & IW Pro were effectively the same drive. The difference was that the IW Pro comes with the health management software & NAS specific firmware. BC Pro was Desktop specific firmware. Hope this helps.
@jameiealehandro
@jameiealehandro 6 ай бұрын
does Exos have rotational vibration reducer ?
@AstronomicalAdventur
@AstronomicalAdventur 2 жыл бұрын
NAS I was thinking of buying a sabrent ps5 heatsink but I still just don't know what ssd I should buy alongside it? What ssd are you using mostly and obviously which one would fit that sabrent cover
@LordRythorn
@LordRythorn 2 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if the ironwolf pro 20 TB drive version is compatible with my QNAP TS-453D NAS. I'm looking to upgrade my drives and 20 TB drives full popluated would be a plenty of data space.
@berntespelien734
@berntespelien734 2 жыл бұрын
Hope we see a WD Red alternative shortly
@denisn8336
@denisn8336 2 жыл бұрын
How many war zones can it store?
@gadda33
@gadda33 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, As this is a mechanical drive, I have an important question .... How many physical spinning disks are there in the 20TB model ? I can't find this information anywhere : ((
@nope-uu8sz
@nope-uu8sz 2 жыл бұрын
10 disks, 2TB per disk.
@velvetwonton
@velvetwonton Жыл бұрын
Hello does the Seagate IronWolf Pro 20TB works with Synology?
@Slashingthrough
@Slashingthrough 2 жыл бұрын
Would you use the Exos in a synology NAS in the living room? \
@DougFreidman
@DougFreidman 8 ай бұрын
What’s best for a Video editor?!?
@samanthagriffinv2.08
@samanthagriffinv2.08 Жыл бұрын
There are 22tb drives now
@NzStumpyTech
@NzStumpyTech 2 жыл бұрын
so if i have an exos that is VERY loud and annoying like an optical drive....you are saying that the ironwolf is going to be much of the same??.....
@nascompares
@nascompares 2 жыл бұрын
At Pro level, it will be very comparable, yeah. The real difference is when accessing larger databases of info that is comprised of many, many small files. Watch my recent comparisons on HDDs from Seagate, WD and Synology (WD) and fast forward to the noise tests
@NzStumpyTech
@NzStumpyTech 2 жыл бұрын
@@nascompares cool will do. Thnx
@ChimpRiot
@ChimpRiot 2 жыл бұрын
Corrie and Eastenders doesn't belong on any NAS - ever.
@nascompares
@nascompares 2 жыл бұрын
Here here
@tomhud2022
@tomhud2022 2 жыл бұрын
the bigger the drive the more pain u feel when it dies. And it will die.
@nascompares
@nascompares 2 жыл бұрын
You are a happy sausage, aren't you!
@robertcoleman780
@robertcoleman780 2 жыл бұрын
@@nascompares Hilarious!!
@ausguy4385
@ausguy4385 2 жыл бұрын
100% think of the rebuild time of losing 1 or 2 drives let alone the cost of replacement. Think of the amount of data at risk in one drive and down time lose. Sure you need back ups but dam
@ErraticPT
@ErraticPT 2 жыл бұрын
Thats a lot of data to trust any Seagate drive to hold. Wouldn't risk a byte to any of their products.
@SocialWorkProfessor
@SocialWorkProfessor 2 жыл бұрын
Kewl. Outta my league but cool.
@nascompares
@nascompares 2 жыл бұрын
QUESTION! (following a conversation with my wife whilst on edited this vid on the train, where I considered dropping the intro). You are Canadian, correct? (That's not the question). Are you aware of Coronation Street or EastEnders? I was worried that the intro joke was obscure, even by my dry, Brit standards!
@SocialWorkProfessor
@SocialWorkProfessor 2 жыл бұрын
@@nascompares Yes, I'm Canadian. I don't know how representative I am; but, yes, I know both those shows though I've never watched a single episode. They aired them (and maybe still do?) on CBC television. Not my thing but there are certainly some ardent Canadian fans.
@nascompares
@nascompares 2 жыл бұрын
Hold the phone! EastEnders was shown in Canada?!? Even on the equivalent of expat TV or as a novelty..that's insane. The show is so miserably British that I cannot even comprehend it being watch elsewhere. Cheers for the intel
@peterbreis5407
@peterbreis5407 2 жыл бұрын
Best value for capacity are still the 8tb and 10tb drives. But the more you put on these, the more you have to lose and Ifrom long experience I can never trust any Seagate drive.
@seannguyen6361
@seannguyen6361 2 жыл бұрын
i got 12 years out of a Seagate Barracuda 1tb 7200rpm
@Dragoslav369
@Dragoslav369 Жыл бұрын
Reveal 18 tb exos.
@KeinNiemand
@KeinNiemand 2 жыл бұрын
20TB drives aren't worth it right now as they are waaaaaay more expensive then the 18TB right now 18TB exos drives or 18TB toshiba enterprise drives are the best for cost/GB
@frankthespank
@frankthespank 8 ай бұрын
You can store twenty terabytes of por…. church songs, ‘n stuff. Yeah.
@Jason94941
@Jason94941 2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed just for the joke on those crappy shows, Eastenders and Coronation Street.
@nascompares
@nascompares 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers buddy. Also... ABSOLUTE TOSH...THE LOT OF IT...there.. I said it
@tdome3000
@tdome3000 2 жыл бұрын
U must be listening regularly to 2300 kbit/s WAV files...
@nascompares
@nascompares 2 жыл бұрын
...I'm 103 days in and it's just getting good...
@christopherjackson2157
@christopherjackson2157 2 жыл бұрын
It must take forever to rebuild an array if one those fails lol
@BerserkeR_031
@BerserkeR_031 Жыл бұрын
That's why you use RAID10.
@33alejan
@33alejan 2 жыл бұрын
Talk less and tell briefly
@NhatLinhNguyen82
@NhatLinhNguyen82 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it is his style. Not many people review and cover NAS on youtube. Appreciate his work but his style of alot of words....alot. Not sure if intentional for youtube monitazation or not, but fair game in my opinion.
@darkknight17
@darkknight17 Жыл бұрын
Looking for a large capacity internal HDD for my pc. I currently use WD Black 10TB drive. Which drive do you recommend please? Thank you
@Dragoslav369
@Dragoslav369 Жыл бұрын
Lot of talk
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