NEW STEAMDECK KILLER? “MSI Claw” Specs LEAKED!

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Jason Witmer

Jason Witmer

6 ай бұрын

Original Article: videocardz.com/newz/msi-claw-...
The MSI Claw is seemingly going to be one of the most powerful pc handhelds on the market. Will the Steam Deck finally be toppled as the king of handhelds?
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@JasonWitmerYT
@JasonWitmerYT 6 ай бұрын
What do you guys think? Will the MSI claw make a huge splash, or just drown when it releases? Comment below! (This is a new type of video from me, should I do more?)
@nathan_tasker
@nathan_tasker 6 ай бұрын
Great video, Jason. I hope you continue doing videos like this as I find them quite interesting.
@StickyGeko
@StickyGeko 6 ай бұрын
Its got to be a similar price to the Ally/Go and have better battery and similar/better performance or why would you pick it up over the Ally/Go
@ArcSilvertongue
@ArcSilvertongue 6 ай бұрын
No trackpads? I just see black ROG ally
@daspotjoel
@daspotjoel 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, that’s a bumber
@shadowk11r
@shadowk11r 6 ай бұрын
How much do you think its gonna be
@akapeegly6463
@akapeegly6463 6 ай бұрын
@@shadowk11rhonestly, if its more than the ally it will flop. Ive said this before, until one comes out with a competitive price, ppl wont care about the extra performance if the battery is shitty and price is high
@USConnexion
@USConnexion 6 ай бұрын
Steam deck is an underpowered overhyped product
@ArcSilvertongue
@ArcSilvertongue 6 ай бұрын
@@USConnexion Underpowered? Absolutely true. It can't hold candle to ROG Ally, Legion Go, GPD, or Ayaneo. For god's sake, it still use RDNA 2, TWICE generation difference. It became great because of linux and steam, period. Linux for console-like experience, and steam for their software support. Do you think SD owner love their device because of it's specs?
@stephenxs8354
@stephenxs8354 6 ай бұрын
Please manufacturers. We want VRR screen! VRR helps with low fps. Also would help with battery life.
@Umbralogy
@Umbralogy 6 ай бұрын
Even though its not one of the first intel powered handhelds its definitely one of the first "main stream" ones. Im hoping we can get optimized drivers. I really want intel to succeed since more competition is always better but i always say to be cautious. Im curious to see the pricing and how the updates will be. This year will definitely be the year of handhelds for sure.
@JasonWitmerYT
@JasonWitmerYT 6 ай бұрын
Excited to see what a big company like MSI does with it 🙏
@Flurarn
@Flurarn 6 ай бұрын
Agree here Handhelds year for sure
@EthanD19
@EthanD19 6 ай бұрын
32gb (10-12 really rn on the Ally etc is not enough) IS NEEDED on these devices. Part of the problem with these handhelds AAA performance comes down to the ram speeds and the amount on them. 16gb is not enough especially when it’s shared as vram (hence only having 8-10gb usable). Take for instance the new avatar. This game uses 12gb of vram right now, streaming in games (streaming as in the worlds and textures etc) are only going to go up, indies etc sure but to run actually any game without hitching you will need more ram. I’m glad they are doing 32gb a I’d say 24gb is becoming the minimum very quickly, especially with how game companies aren’t even bothering to optimise before release. (Look at any game today, the only time optimisation is a thing is if people are into it THEN they’ll optimise it). Being an intel chip I’m worried about the support it’s going to have going forward and if it will be able to utilise FSR well. Im looking forward to this handheld and seeing what it’s capable of, ik it won’t be anything amazing like a pc but I’m actually thinking of getting rid of my 4090 system to go mobile (no I won’t be using it as a mobile gaming device more like a 100w on car battery kind of deal - tbh you shouldn’t be looking at battery life when buying these mini PCs after all they all last what 1-2 hours, you might as well set it up on a power source at that rate. If you need the power on the go who cares buy a 80-100w battery pack problem solved.
@cheerful_crop_circle
@cheerful_crop_circle 6 ай бұрын
Yes
@brightya
@brightya 6 ай бұрын
The ultra GPU outperforms RDNA3 with more than 30W power. On the lower end power such as less than 20W it is not as good as RDNA3. For handheld mode, the 7840U chip may still be a better choice.
@BeefLettuceAndPotato
@BeefLettuceAndPotato 6 ай бұрын
All those damn cores and threads just for the thing to be GPU bound anyway. Going Intel is a ... Choice. "It's a bold strategy Cotton. Let's see if it pays off"
@krinodagamer6313
@krinodagamer6313 6 ай бұрын
32 gig in a hand held is crazy
@cheerful_crop_circle
@cheerful_crop_circle 6 ай бұрын
So it is going to be the most powerful handheld PC? Is it going to be more powerful than the Legion Go?
@dtectatl1
@dtectatl1 6 ай бұрын
Dude when lenovo dropped the legion go I called that MSI would be next.
@sueellin9543
@sueellin9543 6 ай бұрын
Sure you did...
@dtectatl1
@dtectatl1 6 ай бұрын
@@sueellin9543 yeah you're right I actually thought it'd be apple but don't tell anyone.
@sueellin9543
@sueellin9543 6 ай бұрын
Oh, HEY! I was just messing with you! ha ha!@@dtectatl1
@Walkinthe
@Walkinthe 6 ай бұрын
I bet nzxt is next
@scc519
@scc519 6 ай бұрын
I bet any manufacturer would be next.
@blueeple
@blueeple 6 ай бұрын
if it cost s atleast 600 - 700 bucks then im buying it
@Steven-yf2ef
@Steven-yf2ef 6 ай бұрын
Well I guess you're buying it lol
@blueeple
@blueeple 6 ай бұрын
@@Steven-yf2ef lets see the benchmarks first
@steveybiggunzgaming8118
@steveybiggunzgaming8118 6 ай бұрын
I thought ram and vram would make a difference but it doesn’t really. I have 64 gig ram on my win mini and 16 gig vram, but aside from an egpu u can’t utilize it. U can crank up to ultra and be fine but you’ll be at like 15 fps in most games
@MobileDecay
@MobileDecay 6 ай бұрын
You don't need a beastly gaming pc to edit some documents and browse the web. Lol. The Rog Ally and Legion Go are more than capable of that.
@quickstrike3573
@quickstrike3573 6 ай бұрын
Do we know what the pricing could be?
@JasonWitmerYT
@JasonWitmerYT 6 ай бұрын
No idea yet! Will know more next week
@thereallettuceweabois5918
@thereallettuceweabois5918 6 ай бұрын
im making an assumption but based off of what ive heard about laptops with "intel ultra" id say atleast 750usd
@thereallettuceweabois5918
@thereallettuceweabois5918 6 ай бұрын
this would be for the base model, 16gb ram probably
@cppctek
@cppctek 6 ай бұрын
799
@Jake-kw4ql
@Jake-kw4ql 6 ай бұрын
More ram could mean more room to assign vram in the bios.. potentially.
@jeanfrancoisjulien8890
@jeanfrancoisjulien8890 6 ай бұрын
chinese handheld aleready have 32, 64gb of ram and no difference at all in perf
@Jake-kw4ql
@Jake-kw4ql 6 ай бұрын
@jeanfrancoisjulien8890 you would have to assign vram allotment in bios otherwise you won't see a difference. Steam deck has 1gb of vram stock, you can bump it up to 4gb in the bios, but that takes away an additional 3gb from total RAM. With higher RAM you have more head room to assign VRAM which will help performance in games that need the VRAM. big open world games like mine craft, 7 day to die, etc etc should benefit from a bump in RAM and VRAM. Not to mention multi tasking, benefits from RAM, keeping windows open for alt tab during games eats up RAM.
@jeanfrancoisjulien8890
@jeanfrancoisjulien8890 6 ай бұрын
i have all... deck, legion and rog ally.. i think i know how its work... some youtuber tested it and its Inconclusive.. @@Jake-kw4ql
@CuriousTinkering
@CuriousTinkering 6 ай бұрын
Intel has terrible gpu drivers. I doubt they'll be able to fix it for this device anytime soon.
@JasonWitmerYT
@JasonWitmerYT 6 ай бұрын
🙏 I hope it’s awesome
@powerplay074
@powerplay074 6 ай бұрын
So does amd
@mysterio7807
@mysterio7807 6 ай бұрын
Well, pretty weird going Intel.
@JasonWitmerYT
@JasonWitmerYT 6 ай бұрын
I hope it’s awesome 🤞
@AtrusDesign
@AtrusDesign 6 ай бұрын
Steamdeck was never killed by anyone. If you run a game it can runs well, it remains the BEST handled experience without doubts. You can think to other devices only if you need windows or the handled is your only gaming device.
@akapeegly6463
@akapeegly6463 6 ай бұрын
8:54 i think the bag is a promotional deal, not the actual size Sort of like “buy the Claw and get this backpack for free” but if they put a backpack the actual size, the product would look small
@JasonWitmerYT
@JasonWitmerYT 6 ай бұрын
But look how big the red zipper tag is! Haha
@akapeegly6463
@akapeegly6463 6 ай бұрын
@@JasonWitmerYTi agree but it looks like sort of a keytag like ppl put in their bikes, makes it easier to grab ur keys, my guess is just a big tag on the side so zipper is easy to grab
@craigjoe8691
@craigjoe8691 6 ай бұрын
Triple fan design, only 1 USB-C Port, 50Whr battery.
@miketran4289
@miketran4289 6 ай бұрын
I agree, It's a dud.
@craigjoe8691
@craigjoe8691 6 ай бұрын
@@miketran4289 100% they had so much community feedback with recent releases and they still managed to make all of the same mistakes ASUS and Lenovo made.
@Steven-yf2ef
@Steven-yf2ef 6 ай бұрын
@@miketran4289 So better power than steam and asus and it's a dud makes sense
@c6c6c68
@c6c6c68 6 ай бұрын
More handhelds yay!!!!🎉🎉🎉
@snowflakes4874
@snowflakes4874 6 ай бұрын
I like MSI but Intel? It’s kinda weird to pick Intel on a console.
@supergooglelee
@supergooglelee 6 ай бұрын
OLED please
@c28.
@c28. 6 ай бұрын
Intel on apple computers ran way too hot. Hopefully they fixed that issue. If this just overheats it doesn’t matter how powerful the handheld is. It will just kill the lifespan of the handheld.
@styls3429
@styls3429 6 ай бұрын
Stickin with my OLED SD ……
@dungimon1912
@dungimon1912 6 ай бұрын
You just know the software is going to absolutely atrocious for at least 6 months.
@Hotcatfish1
@Hotcatfish1 6 ай бұрын
115w max power with a 50w battery. Sounds like a bad time. No track pad and having xbox lay out sticks is yuck on a handheld. Screen looks small too. Think this well be too late and others will come out with their 2nd gens soon enough. Time well tell, knowing msi it'll cost an arm and leg
@3cs0r
@3cs0r 6 ай бұрын
Is it smart to Dock ur steam deck if you dont wanna buy a full gaming pc?
@lilstewy5091
@lilstewy5091 6 ай бұрын
That’s what I keep asking as well, my dock coming in today and I will see how it turns out. If no one updates you then I’ll update you later today.
@3cs0r
@3cs0r 6 ай бұрын
Thanks, man
@lilstewy5091
@lilstewy5091 6 ай бұрын
@@3cs0r I got good news and bad news, I got the core skull n co for dock. Bad news is that the core drive gets super hot and it does everything a steam deck does just full screen and no graphics improvements(unlike nintendo switch). Good news is that you need to get the MClassic and connect it to the dock which will improve image pixels which is wayyy better plus it increases FPS slightly, but it’s stuck at 4k either 30 or 60 fps you can’t do the sweet spot which is 40 FPS. Overall it’s like a ps4/pc (with the items above) not a ps5/pc or high end pc.
@3cs0r
@3cs0r 6 ай бұрын
Ok, thanks man i will look into it and think about it for some time🙂
@patman3310
@patman3310 6 ай бұрын
It’s a handheld. Most are gunna look the same. I’m more worried about what’s under the hood
@santosrramirez8252
@santosrramirez8252 6 ай бұрын
Don’t be that guy. Your preferences are for your handheld. Don’t be the guy be objective and consistent
@JasonWitmerYT
@JasonWitmerYT 6 ай бұрын
As a content creator, I have to buy all of them, so I don’t have a preference for “my handheld”
@user-wx9oj2gv9u
@user-wx9oj2gv9u 6 ай бұрын
Steam deck has already been slain in terms of power last year, but its still the most popular handheld. So yeah, no need to discussed SD being slain 😂
@BReal23-qm8hs
@BReal23-qm8hs 6 ай бұрын
Steam Deck is the not most powerful spec'd device but the most efficient in hardware and software optimization. The rest of the competition seems to be overcompensating because they run Windows 11.
@mattihp
@mattihp 6 ай бұрын
As long as it runs windows without a snazzy launcher - steam will still have a place
@MrRoundthetwist
@MrRoundthetwist 6 ай бұрын
Although I think Steam Deck is/will be the clear winner it’s great to see so much competition to keep Valve on their toes
@akapeegly6463
@akapeegly6463 6 ай бұрын
The price has to be below $700 if they really wanna sell these the same amount as an rog ally. Msi is not as known as a whole Asus branding. Maybe in the gaming community but again, these are for the mainstream community, not really for one group of ppl
@dtectatl1
@dtectatl1 6 ай бұрын
What are you on about msi is just as well known as asus?
@akapeegly6463
@akapeegly6463 6 ай бұрын
@@dtectatl1 msi is a premium brand, asus isnt, u can get budget sub $200 computers from asus, its marketed towards budget more as a whole msi just does the gaming stuff, its only for gamers
@s3ms3m80
@s3ms3m80 6 ай бұрын
intel chipset is dead allreasdy before release
@mareo187
@mareo187 6 ай бұрын
It's not a steam deck killer It's a Rog ally killer especially if matter to cut their price a little lower than them.
@JasonWitmerYT
@JasonWitmerYT 6 ай бұрын
Big true haha
@mareo187
@mareo187 6 ай бұрын
@JasonWitmerYT from the specs alone it's aiming at something higher end than the steam deck. I'm definitely getting this to take aim at my always jealous friend who gotten the Rog to make fun of my deck.
@alexythimia23
@alexythimia23 6 ай бұрын
lol nothing is going to be a steam deck killer. What people don’t realise is it’s not power and graphics so much that will sell better, it’s all going to come down to which is the most user friendly, a pick up and play and that is steam deck all the way. Yes on these vids you have tech geeks salivating over more tech but they will be niche, valve is in for the long haul, optimisations, and steam deck 2 will learn and surpass all of them. I don’t have one yet but after every video I have seen I dont have the time to be tinkering for an hour in settings and folders just to play a game. The majority of people want this, more power is nice but not at the cost of ease of use as at the end of the day we just want to pick up and play, that’s it.
@mareo187
@mareo187 6 ай бұрын
@alexythimia23 yes with the steam deck it's a budget pc gaming handheld that beats their competition with sales because it's cheap. They recover the lost with the help new comers joining steam and buy games from their store
@robertsmith20022
@robertsmith20022 6 ай бұрын
Screw design. Give me performance.
@garyharris9750
@garyharris9750 6 ай бұрын
Won't compare to the LG. Intel?!?! Lol. No thanks.
@galvanicmass
@galvanicmass 6 ай бұрын
Software will be shit tho
@mmsuwaid
@mmsuwaid 6 ай бұрын
Windows OS?! Believe me, it won't beat steam
@nathanjuan6042
@nathanjuan6042 6 ай бұрын
I actually prefer windows more than Steam OS atleast your not limited not only on steam games but also outside of steam.
@lilstewy5091
@lilstewy5091 6 ай бұрын
@@nathanjuan6042 It’s like comparing android(windows)and apple(steam). As someone who uses both I prefer steam only because of how easy, and great layout it is. Windows can run powerful games with tweaks while steam has games ready to go(great for traveling).
@nathanjuan6042
@nathanjuan6042 6 ай бұрын
@@lilstewy5091 Not really that hard. Ally is also ready to go at the same time it has 3 months free xbox game pass which is more of a ready to go you don't need to buy games right of the bat. As a matter of fact I've downloaded tons of free games already never have a problem with any tweaks. Actually it depends on people also like for you its easier to use apple while for me its harder to use apple because there is no navigation bar which is what I'm used to same with windows, linux, or macOS its harder for me to use Mac because everything is the opposite of windows same on linux I'm more used to wimdows.
@vashSJ
@vashSJ 6 ай бұрын
@@nathanjuan6042 the OS actually helps the handheld to save power, WindowsOS is not made for handhelds unlike what Valve did for the SteamOS. the OLED version combined with the optimized OS + Optimized CPU + solid temp while gaming works together to be as efficient as possible, hence the extra hour battery life compared to the competition.
@nemo_0688
@nemo_0688 6 ай бұрын
Deck killer lol
@FriendsFade
@FriendsFade 6 ай бұрын
Its good to have competition but to say its a steam deck killer is just clickbait, every handheld pales in comparsion to the steam deck and that will remain so for a very long time.
@miketran4289
@miketran4289 6 ай бұрын
It's dead in the water. Stop reporting on it. Intel is not competitive.
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