New Strong Evidence for Existence of Planet 9, Here's What We Know

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Hello and welcome! My name is Anton and in this video, we will talk about new statistical evidence for the existence of Planet 9
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#planet9 #astronomy #solarsystem
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0:00 Planet 9 in a nutshell
0:40 History of evidence
1:55 Original proposition
2:55 Unless we find it, it's not real
3:45 Alternative explanations
4:35 Could it be bias?
5:15 Exoplanet resembling planet 9
6:00 Properties
6:20 New evidence of TNOs
7:30 Anomaly?
8:10 Conclusions
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@dustinosborn6269 15 күн бұрын

I don’t typically take planet 9 videos on KZfaq seriously, but if Anton is covering it, it’s worth a listen. 😊

@raisnaix 15 күн бұрын

facts

@BobWidlefish 15 күн бұрын

💯

@Ratzfourtyfour 15 күн бұрын

Same.

@danielvermeer3363 15 күн бұрын

Mainly trustworthy as he will also tell you it's definitely not, if it's definitely not.😂😂

@DNotzz 15 күн бұрын

That’s funny because science seems to always be behind “pseudo-science”. The problem is these modern scientists have become too skeptical. They’ve lost the ability to think “what if we have been wrong all this time?”. They think everything has been found and studied. They are so wrong. And this is just another example of that. Hopefully so,eBay soon they’ll come down of their high horse and realize the universe, reality, we, are a lot stranger than we could begin to imagine.

@WynnofThule 15 күн бұрын

If a study ever comes out against Planet 9, you should title the video on it "Planet Nein"

@kerolokerokerolo 14 күн бұрын

I was thinking all time during the video about possible names... all I could think of were deities names, but as it was kinda a different type of planet, I thought it could be cool naming it after an egyptian deity. your idea cracked me up thoug

@Deletirium 14 күн бұрын

@@kerolokerokerolo I would sign up to go explore Anubis, for sure.

@phoenixjones7191 14 күн бұрын

@@kerolokerokerolochronos because it took forever to find it

@kerolokerokerolo 14 күн бұрын

@@phoenixjones7191 lol

@kerolokerokerolo 14 күн бұрын

@@Deletirium I've always loved Ra or Osiris :D

@ryanwoods5493 5 күн бұрын

I tune in for Anton because he speaks directly to the point. No CGI or AI coupled with click bait video titles.

@markamd1 3 күн бұрын

Calm down 😂

@TheMeritCoba 10 сағат бұрын

Instead, you get an 11-minute video(because of the ads) that could have been five minutes long and doesn't deliver. I stopped watching his channel because of his tendency to pad his videos, and here I am again, falling for it.

@ralphralpherson9441 11 күн бұрын

Ever since I learned about Quaroar, Sedna, Makemake, Orcus, and Eris, I have been fascinated with minor planets. I love how bizarre and unexpected most of them turn out to be (like having weird shapes, or rings outside its Roche limit, or bizarre moons). How amazing would it be to have the technology to visit these bizarre frozen worlds? Sometimes space is so vast and amazing it gives me chills.

@andrewfarrar741 11 күн бұрын

Can you imagine trying to name all of the planets?

@ralphralpherson9441 10 күн бұрын

@@andrewfarrar741 You mean like, in the solar system? Or the galaxy? Or the Universe? Because even in the solar system you're gonna be a while.

@andrewfarrar741 10 күн бұрын

@@ralphralpherson9441 We can also MakeBelieve™️ humanity exists in an infinite expanse of universes, each containing countless atoms, stars, galaxies, and realities. Who knows, maybe our universe, with all its complexities and wonders, is just a tiny atomic particle in the grand tapestry of the Supraverse™️ which contains the Metaverse©️.

@DashMcdash-gz4qq 10 күн бұрын

@@andrewfarrar741no

@ralphralpherson9441 10 күн бұрын

@@andrewfarrar741 That would be nuts, however.... I always found the Metaverse/Multiverse theory to be a shitty lame argument. Its just a non-theistic place-holder for God. (An extremely vast powerful thing we cannot observe or detect by any means, that explains a lot of shit we dont understand yet). Hence, lame argument. A "God of the Gaps" argument for atheist cosmologists.

@CarlForgey 14 күн бұрын

The search for planet nine has been going on for so long, it started out as the search for planet ten!

@dearthditch 14 күн бұрын

😂 I’ll be happy so long as the people who deleted the 9th planet aren’t allowed to help name the replacement

@rogerwilco1777 14 күн бұрын

@@dearthditch Its gonna be called "Not Pluto"

@metalswifty23 14 күн бұрын

@@dearthditch I'll be happy if they call it Mondas

@uncertaintytoworldpeace3650 14 күн бұрын

They should name it brap hog

@allentac6222 14 күн бұрын

@@rogerwilco1777 Well that would be Goofy. I’ll show myself out.

@jordanremington 15 күн бұрын

I found your channel about 3 years ago and I try to listen to every video you drop. I am very poor and unable to donate, but when I have money some day I promise to give you a donation to say thanks for doing what you do. Thank you Anton!

@barbthegreat586 15 күн бұрын

Take care, Jordan and enjoy free resources!

@phillm156 15 күн бұрын

Yes, KZfaq can be full of knowledge and resources. Use them to further yourself.

@jordanremington 14 күн бұрын

@@barbthegreat586 that is greatly appreciated! I hope you are well and keep supporting Anton!

@jordanremington 14 күн бұрын

@@phillm156 thanks for the response, I try everyday to learn something new. Hope all is well with you brother.

@JenMaxon 14 күн бұрын

Just by turning up and clicking the thanks button you are making a contribution. So don't sweat it. I hope you enjoy the videos as much as I do

@marcse7en 14 күн бұрын

Before Pluto was reclassified as a dwarf planet, in 1966 there was a Doctor Who story called "The Tenth Planet." It starred the first Doctor, William Hartnell (1908 - 1975) and introduced the Cybermen from the planet Mondas.

@howiewood 14 күн бұрын

My favorite Space Dude!! I grew up in Houston Tx.,during the Apollo era,and was a school kid when we lost the Challenger shuttle. The resurgence of the space industry is much appreciated, n I feel needed. I love your subtle accent ,and no matter where you got it ,you're as American as apple pie in my heart. You are a great asset to science ,education and one of my favorite obsessions. Im back in school, pursuing a Mechatronix degree...Your take on stuff is passionate, and I think ,very genuinely refreshing. I think n feel that U r one of the beautiful people in my life and you always lift my spirits and give me a fire under my ass to study more diligently. I have a good feeling that you have a similar affect on others as well .plz keep it coming,Ive been following You for a good long while and wont stop watching and learning from you ,so dont stop,you're doing agreat service to me and many,many others. You seem like the kinda guy Id enjoy having a beer or five with,.. maybe one day, ..Ican dream and I know that you're a dreamer too ,.Peace Out,,Howie from Houston. ;)

@skateboarder27292 14 күн бұрын

There’s very few people who’d get a click from me talking about planet 9… but Anton is one of them. 😂

@rogerwilco1777 14 күн бұрын

ITS FULL OF LIZZURD PEOPLE!!!, (trust me! I watched ancient aliens!!!)

@traveler263 14 күн бұрын

is planet 9 also flat ?

@lifedevice 13 күн бұрын

@@traveler263 Yes, probably flat. Likely has nazi bases all over it too, like everything else in the solar system. 🤣

@PASHKULI 12 күн бұрын

Guys, it is not a planet! It is a dwarf (and dead) star, brother to our Sun. Our solar system is a binary star system. By the way Jupiter once could have also become a star but it did not.

@aquarius5719 12 күн бұрын

Think of it. Oort cloud has plenty of objects. What are the chances of having planets with high inclination?

@rhysun 15 күн бұрын

Imagine discovering a black hole that's close enough to send a probe to.

@leepatterson5710 15 күн бұрын

So much science could be gathered, and we could learn so much about the universe from such an object so close.

@QH96 15 күн бұрын

We should first send some probes to uranus.

@Hiznogood 15 күн бұрын

I would sleep better not having a black hole that close!

@nekdozahadny4846 15 күн бұрын

It's like every physicist wet dream... But I doubt it will be black hole :/

@noobslayer815 15 күн бұрын

@@Hiznogoodit is still so far away from earth that it wouldn’t matter

@Daydream3rz 14 күн бұрын

I love Anton so much. He always makes me feel welcome and he’s always so polite

@AKkachie 14 күн бұрын

Met somebody in a planetarium show who watches your vids. You’re Super informative and interesting. Love the work Anton, thank you!

@racookster 14 күн бұрын

If anyone had told me twenty years ago that our understanding of our own solar system was incomplete (as Zecharia Sitchin heads sometimes did), my response would have been, "You're crazy. We've got it pretty well mapped out." I might have been wrong about that.

@RandOm-hr5jn 14 күн бұрын

Yup, it seems it pretty much depends on whether we are lucky to spot it or not, finding planets in our back yard turns out to be more difficult than first thought

@7xr1e20ln8 14 күн бұрын

I think the lesson here is to be humble. Everyone trashed Sitchins hypotheses outright.

@johnbox271 14 күн бұрын

"In 1874, Max Planck's advisor, Philipp von Jolly, a Munich physics professor, told Planck that studying theoretical physics might not be a good idea because there wasn't much left to discover. Planck told the story in a 1924 lecture, saying that von Jolly described physics as a mature science, with only small things left to examine and classify." 😉

@Lund.J 14 күн бұрын

The Vatican's infrared telescope is named Lucifer for a reason. PlanetX manifests through heat(aether) before its dim reddish light is seen. Mythologically, it has several names, depending on the point of view: In a way, it is the counterpart of the archangel of the sun (the supresser of the dragon, Michael). On the other hand, it is the fallen Elohim (6th Sephira), the sun-demon ("Sorat"), the "failed sun", in which sense it is the counterpart of the Creator, or the Destroyer. Jeremiah 48:8 Jeremiah 48:18 Jeremiah 51:48 Jeremiah 15:8 Exodus 12:23 and many others...

@Lund.J 14 күн бұрын

The Vatican's infrared telescope is named Lucifer for a reason. PlanetX manifests through heat(aether) before its dim reddish light is seen. Mythologically, it has several names, depending on the point of view: In a way, it is the counterpart of the archangel of the sun (the supresser of the dragon, Michael). On the other hand, it is the fallen Elohim (6th Sephira), the sun-demon ("Sorat"), the "failed sun" ("dwarf"), in which sense it is the counterpart of the Creator, or the Destroyer. Jeremiah 48:8 Jeremiah 48:18 Jeremiah 51:48 Jeremiah 15:8 Exodus 12:23 and many others...

@grumblesmudie3141 15 күн бұрын

Way back in the mid 1990's I had a friend who used to talk about this but the difference was that the planet was orbiting almost 90° to the other planets.

@smurt1403 14 күн бұрын

I consumed 6 sausages today.

@jonstfrancis 14 күн бұрын

Yes, I remember that concept too.

@greysunited7317 13 күн бұрын

@@smurt1403 Probably not the food kind ;)

@FitzgeraldStanburyWeissV 12 күн бұрын

@@greysunited7317 LMAO

@PASHKULI 12 күн бұрын

Guys, it is not a planet! It is a dwarf (and dead) star, brother to our Sun. Our solar system is a binary star system. By the way Jupiter once could have also become a star but it did not.

@Tw33zD 11 күн бұрын

Saw posts online and been waiting for you to cover this thanks

@polygondon 9 күн бұрын

I planned to write a comment Anton would see, but this channel has grown so much since I last looked. It's been such a long time. You deserve all this success!

@eddiebowens1919 14 күн бұрын

It will always be planet X to me, You know 10. I with Jerry on this one.

@leighz1962 11 күн бұрын

China says it is an 11th planet, Xi

@eddiebowens1919 11 күн бұрын

@@leighz1962 awlsome

@daMillenialTrucker 10 күн бұрын

@@eddiebowens1919 very awlsome

@dj.j5099 6 күн бұрын

I'll seriously call it Nibiru 😂

@jlert7297 6 күн бұрын

Yep

@CaseyW491 15 күн бұрын

In case nobody has told Anton today, you too are a wonderful person. Ill always choose to listen to him on anything before just about anyone else. Edit: We need more positive and uplifting people in this world. Be kind, everyone.

@lindaseel9986 14 күн бұрын

Well said. 😊

@jamessoucy3740 13 күн бұрын

Agreed!

@gregproefrock4114 14 күн бұрын

Good work, Anton! Easy to understand. Thank you

@Simon_Jakle__almost_real_name 14 күн бұрын

"We" keep on forgetting or abandoning that a star like ours would often begin with a silbling, so if "Nemesis" had left the solar system, a correction mode could have started sucking or accumulating mass from outside (aswell as the Hills cloud), building up Jupiter until it would be a surrogate for "Nemesis" ("Jupiter, you'll be a star one day"), gathering so much mass, gravitation or "solar system spin" to even deduct Kallisto from Mars making Mars tumble slowly. So with Mars-Kallisto the normal planet system would have been a double System, like Pluto-Charon. And there's a gap in the Edgeworth comet torus (the "Kuiper belt").

@Farcehole 11 күн бұрын

Most educated comment in the section. People forget that the planets don’t have the same inclination, so any “evidence” could just be the result of the chaotic formation of the solar system billions of years ago. The other problem is that the only people studying the possibility of Planet 9 are desperate for it to be true, and they aren’t releasing the thousands of other models which could explain any eccentric orbits. Confirmation bias is a problem in science.

@michaelleroi9077 11 күн бұрын

Good thing you called it Nemesis and not the unmentionable Nibiru! Oops! I mentioned it!

@Simon_Jakle__almost_real_name 10 күн бұрын

@@michaelleroi9077 The struggle of argueing for the better words still makes me kinda stare through the mist, kinda triple-ing the load in the mind(mine) when communicating, as far as i think i feel that. Just like "the greatest of all time" is mostly just a record so far (a lot of improvable examples 'd appear), expecting to stay in perseverance, not wanting to gather "younglings" that would keep on trying to follow me. But "i'm so queasy" appearing in "the off"...

@michaelleroi9077 10 күн бұрын

@@Simon_Jakle__almost_real_name word…(s)! I’m there!

@johnsinclair4448 Күн бұрын

Are you just making random space related comments?

@MyraSeavy 15 күн бұрын

It will be so interesting to finally know! One way or another! I'll be patiently waiting! 😊

@archmage_of_the_aether 15 күн бұрын

Not me, I bought my ticket, I'm going out there to check for myself

@christinabeanma6618 15 күн бұрын

Spoiler alert. It's the oort cloud. 😅❤ Thank me later

@VikingTeddy 14 күн бұрын

It's the blackhole future humanity will use for interstellar travel.

@bigguy7353 14 күн бұрын

It's called Pluto. Since what? 1954 or something?

@bigguy7353 14 күн бұрын

@christinabeanma6618 Right because you know everything. Ok.

@sp_ce. 14 күн бұрын

I’ve heard the certainty this study gives for a gravitational anomaly is 5 sigma. That’s really conclusive, 99.99994% chance (if the data and modelling are correct).

14 күн бұрын

'Sigmas' don't translate into probability like that. I think what you quoted is the probably that we observe something at least as extreme as the data we did observe, in case their null-hypothesis is true. That's not the same as probability of the hypothesis being true. In this case, modelling error is one of the big things to watch out for.

@jameshart2622 14 күн бұрын

Statistics like that are only as good as the assumptions you feed them. If there is some kind of systemic or observational bias, or other mistake, you can get absurd statistics results that mean nothing. Of course, the researchers know this and have probably already asked for help finding such things.

@ClosestNearUtopia 14 күн бұрын

You realist just now? Planet 9 or x, depending on the moment, has been speculated in my 1970s spacebooks. Also, the dumb study released in 2013, like anton said, was already known in that time as wel..

@KaitlynBurnellMath 14 күн бұрын

Worth noting it doesn't need to be a planet or a black hole, though. Could just be more mass than previously thought (more asteroids/comets/dust/whatever) in the oort cloud.

@Wiseman501 14 күн бұрын

@@KaitlynBurnellMath Unfortunately, this is most likely the case... Some mundane space rocks rather than a super cool black hole we can study and play with. However, if there IS a tiny singularity so close to us, it would help explain dark matter, prove primordial black holes, which is pretty much locked in anyway, and provide stimulus for generations of scientists to attempt to harness its properties. But... Life is boring. Most likely just rocks... Le sigh.

@sageastreaus7905 12 күн бұрын

My knowledge of space has expanded even more. Thank you once again Anton

@CasualCatAnimations 5 күн бұрын

I feel like Anton should do more videos on Planet 9, it’s one of the many space things that I absolutely love learning about

@AltGrendel 15 күн бұрын

It’s a Death Star hidden by the Imperium ages ago.

@edwardfletcher7790 14 күн бұрын

A Death Star the size of Neptune ? 🤣

@mrsamaritan6881 14 күн бұрын

The Imperium? As in the Imperium of Man from Warhammer 40K instead of the Galactic Empire from Star Wars? lol

@mikeoxmall69420 14 күн бұрын

@@edwardfletcher7790 a deathier star

@felixar90 14 күн бұрын

It’s a Mass Relay

@halburd1 14 күн бұрын

that;s what the moon was and we were the ewoks a long long time ago

@inesis 15 күн бұрын

Finally, a video about planet 9 on KZfaq that isn't complete doodoo!

@douglaswilkinson5700 14 күн бұрын

Anton lists the sources he uses to create his videos. You can read them for yourself and judge ther quality for yourself.

@curiositycloset2359 14 күн бұрын

Event horizon has the actual guys writing papers on it. There's probably Something there. But it's a needle in a haystack, looking for a dark object somewhere in space.

@fredericjanelle 14 күн бұрын

Gaston Lagaffe!?

@bigguy7353 14 күн бұрын

Yeah it's called Pluto.

@cherriberri8373 14 күн бұрын

@@bigguy7353 no, you confusing dwarf planets for planets. Pluto is a wanderer like the rest but just quite, quite small

@dr4d1s 14 күн бұрын

You are such a gem Anton; never change!

@jeremyveverka146 14 күн бұрын

Alway love your videos, Anton! You mention that it could be something other than a planet, for example, a primordial black hole, and it made me wonder: are there any possible explanations involving dark matter? Do proponents of the theory of dark matter as actual particles (as opposed to MOND or MOG,) posit that such particles could possibly clump together in such a way as to have a gravitational effect on the solar system, similar to what we are observe?

@PASHKULI 12 күн бұрын

Guys, it is not a planet! It is a dwarf (and dead) star, brother to our Sun. Our solar system is a binary star system. By the way Jupiter once could have also become a star but it did not.

@chadatchison145 15 күн бұрын

As unlikely as it is I'm hoping it's a black hole, can you image how exciting it would be to have a black hole so close to us, the experiments would be almost endless and invaluable.

@robbarkhouse351 15 күн бұрын

Yes and no. Yes because of exactly what you said and the things we can find out but no because of how terrifyingly destructive they are and what they could pull out from the Ort cloud and send our way

@QH96 15 күн бұрын

The whole planet should vote on who to throw into the black hole once a year.

@leepatterson5710 15 күн бұрын

@@robbarkhouse351 How would a Neptune sized BH be any different than a Planet 9/X the size of Neptune?

@XavionofThera 15 күн бұрын

@@leepatterson5710 If something goes inside the black hole couldn't it flare gamma rays that could be bad for us?

@OscarGonzalez-ld4np 15 күн бұрын

@@leepatterson5710 Small correction, that would be a black hole with the mass of Neptune. Its size would be on the ballpark of a basketball which is not that terrifying even though it absolutely can tear anything apart. A black hole with the _size_ of Neptune would probably be an issue.

@LDSG_A_Team 15 күн бұрын

I have been waiting for you to talk about this, Anton! Thanks!

@yvonnemiezis5199 14 күн бұрын

Great video, glad to see you again👍🤗

@gecsus 14 күн бұрын

I really enjoy your peaceful presentation. Unlike the high hype world around us, you present information that is well researched and you present it in well thought out and organized order. Thank you.

@PASHKULI 12 күн бұрын

Guys, it is not a planet! It is a dwarf (and dead) star, brother to our Sun. Our solar system is a binary star system. By the way Jupiter once could have also become a star but it did not.

@Demonrifts 9 күн бұрын

@@PASHKULI There are hypotheses that it may be a dwarf star. I always find assertions like this, said with full confidence and no supportive evidence, absolutely hilarious, though.

@boxy3087 14 күн бұрын

Black holes in our solar system would be astonishing and scary at the same time

@jero4059 Күн бұрын

A solar system in our black hole.

@mrexists5400 15 күн бұрын

Would be awesome if it was actually a black hole, we'd finally be able to throw random stuff at a black hole to see what happens

@l10zzardk1ng2 14 күн бұрын

What if it throws "stuff" back at us?😅

@brianwesley28 14 күн бұрын

@@l10zzardk1ng2Like Species 8472 if the Borg don't leave them alone in peace.

@disasterincarnate 14 күн бұрын

celestial rubbish bin.

@sneeringimperialist6667 14 күн бұрын

If you threw a comet into it, the radiation pulse would sterilize earth...

@darthrevan1281 14 күн бұрын

You do know that would just make it bigger, right?

@remolalougarou6512 10 күн бұрын

Great job Anton Keep us informed brother

@offgridas 14 күн бұрын

I remember a kid at school in the 90s talking about plantet x, before Pluto was stripped of its title, antons the only one on KZfaq id take seriously talking about this

@dg8620 14 күн бұрын

If aliens land one day and its being covered by all the networks, I ain't stockpiling toilet paper until Anton confirms it.

@william14able 13 күн бұрын

Get a Bidet now, just for preparation

@brigidsingleton1596 13 күн бұрын

@@william14able Does that mean that if you (?)/ America(?) has _Biden_ ...that you(?)/America(?) is / are already _more than_ three-quarters the way there...?!

@IanHobday 12 күн бұрын

If you wait for confirmation, all the TP will be gone. Always keep an extra pack at home...

@clemlo4973 12 күн бұрын

Stock pile toilet paper but do not forget youre towel.

@leighz1962 11 күн бұрын

Make sure to check the expiration dates on toilet paper. Don't want the old stuff.

@sweatysam6264 15 күн бұрын

I'm not the conspiracy type but if Anton talking about it I'm popping some popcorn and tuning in.🌌

@nozrep 14 күн бұрын

yes and it’s not even a conpiracy, so, you can rest easy. It’s a scientific theory that they have proposed and done calculations for, only have not proven it yet. So now they are looking for the proof with all the telescopes and stuff. If it gets proved, great. If not, it is still ok. Because it wasn’t a conspiracy to begin with. But a scientific theory to which scientists are trying to apply the five steps of the scientific method.

@Corteum 14 күн бұрын

Now you have to become the conspiracy type to entertain Anton's new findings lol

@PASHKULI 12 күн бұрын

Guys, it is not a planet! It is a dwarf (and dead) star, brother to our Sun. Our solar system is a binary star system. By the way Jupiter once could have also become a star but it did not.

@sweatysam6264 9 күн бұрын

@@PASHKULI True Jupiter needed roughly 4-6 times its current mass to become a star.

@cthulholmhastur5317 14 күн бұрын

The only channel with cool info and a healthy splash of ASMR. Anton's voice is definitely one of a kind.

@brigidsingleton1596 13 күн бұрын

Um... There's also 'Astrum' ...🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟❤️

@tomkelly8827 11 күн бұрын

I am not sure what I was hoping for more, confirmation that it does or does not exist or continued mystery around it. I think I like the mystery a little more. just to think that there could likely be another planet close by that we don't know about is really fascinating. Part of me is still hoping to find Niburu or mount Olympus out there still. I am a big Sitchin fan

@john_blues 14 күн бұрын

It was cooler when it was Planet X. Planet 9 makes me think Bela Lugosi is about to show up.

@Arigator2 14 күн бұрын

Planet X sounds like a Public Enemy album.

@thhseeking 13 күн бұрын

Planet 9 from Outer Space :P

@cybergothstudios94 13 күн бұрын

Bela Lugosi is dead.

@thhseeking 13 күн бұрын

@@cybergothstudios94 Bela Lugosi is UNdead :P

@hellskitchen10036 13 күн бұрын

We have a 9th planet, it's called Pluto.

@vatesedgar 14 күн бұрын

There is something about that smile at the end of your videos. Plus, they are always so informative. Thank you, Anton!

@Paulofibonelli 13 күн бұрын

I quite remember the vídeo you made when Sedna was discovered back than

@QuantumConundrum 14 күн бұрын

I used to do exoplanet research (datanalysis: TTV, RV, etc.). My 2 cents is that I think we are underestimating the oort cloud. There could be more mass, and it could have been distributed very differently a few billion years ago. The parameters it leaves open are a bit too much to explore and rule out the oort completely, short of a direct observation of a body, of course.

@davidmcmahon4192 14 күн бұрын

Just wanted to thank you for all the awesome info over the years bro

@aaronhenderson84 15 күн бұрын

great information. I still think some of these TNO's are a product of our sun capturing objects that other solar systems may have ejected (which partially explains their orbits). but it does make sense for something like planet 9 to exist, even after the hundreds of TNO's we have discovered.

@plektosgaming 14 күн бұрын

Absolutely. Our own galaxy is oddly shaped due to a previous collision with another cluster about 10 billion years ago. When we collide with Andromeda in 4-5 billion years, it will create more oddities, I'm sure.

@goobot1 12 күн бұрын

Could even be something that was once there and then got ejected and we are just seeing it’s past influences

@plektosgaming 11 күн бұрын

@@goobot1 Because of that past collision, every 40-60 million years or so, something "bad" happens to most solar systems as a large number are displaced slightly. I'm sure you know about how our sun wobbles up and down as it circles our galaxy. It shouldn't do that. And so we get rogue asteroids, things captured or ejected, and on and on. A lot less stable than we thought it should be. And why always being on one planet kind of IS silly, long-term. But we are talking about tens or hundreds of thousands of years, not decades, so we do have time.

@Robinhood1966 14 күн бұрын

Can you show the plane of ecliptic of Sol in relation to the atypical inclined planets' orbitals in your graphics? Is it assumed the plane view you display is oriented in relation to the solar equatorial ecliptic plane? Am merely an amateur astronomer, so not familiar with the view orientations. You are doing terrific work. Thank you! 🙏

@rezking12149 14 күн бұрын

It's Nibiru! :O

@stalbaum 15 күн бұрын

I remember Art Bell's show and how exciting it was when Sedna was discovered.

@kittywampusdrums4963 14 күн бұрын

Coast to Coast AM! I miss it

@barkmaker 14 күн бұрын

Who else remembers it being called planet X?

@tiranito2834 14 күн бұрын

Yeah, because X is 10 and Pluto used to be considered a planet at the time. But yeah, that is a far cooler name. We'll see if it really exists or not. But just imaginate, if it really does exist... it will be pretty interesting to see the reaction of all the people who already believed in its existance. They'll be all like "told ya so".

@MrWowh 12 күн бұрын

A lot of people lol

@christinevenner183 11 күн бұрын

Yep.

@coreyh9175 11 күн бұрын

When Pluto was considered the 9th planet

@Quino2 10 күн бұрын

Or Vulcan

@pdmv8471 9 күн бұрын

I have a question. Is this "object" in or near (or its trajectory) the Pleiades, Orion, and or Arcturus? I ask because of both, the translations of the King's Library of Nineveh regarding the Anunnaki and Nibiru as well as the Old Testament of the Bible (specifically Amos 5:8, Job 9:9 and 9:11, and of course Revelation 8:11 and 12:3-4).

@katheyjberry Сағат бұрын

Appreciate the update. THX!

@thomasm9384 15 күн бұрын

Great vid! love and peace to you and yours!

@lostboytnt1 14 күн бұрын

Glad to see you back and feeling better!

@dexio85 13 күн бұрын

He looks drunk though - slured, slow speech, etc. I got used to his word cadence and speech over the years, it's easy to notice :(

@FutureChaosTV 11 күн бұрын

@@dexio85 I disagree.

@juharoning6361 14 күн бұрын

It is Nibiru

@pyresflood 7 күн бұрын

That's what they say

@azazel0783 5 күн бұрын

Nibiru... That takes me back about 2 decades, the good ole days of KZfaq

@TheWadetube 14 күн бұрын

The spinning flat part of the accretion disc produces more stable orbits as the whole mass of it is spinning in a lateral plane around a center of gravity, but as the center gathers more mass than the outer edges the aggregate particles in the north and south hemispheres will coalesce and be pulled in towards the center from its high angle position with little regard to a circular orbit. There is no need to have an extra large planet in the accretion disc with this scenario, it explains everything but also predicts only in the accretion disc can large planets form and not in the north and south hemispheres of the cloud. Planets could be forming still.

@jamesblackwell5141 14 күн бұрын

Our solar system has encountered 'interlopers' though out history. Perhaps passerby stars and planets have had a gravitational effect we have not been around long enough to realize.

@Unknown17 14 күн бұрын

Finally, someone is asking the same question that I am--namely, what if "Planet Nine" is no longer orbiting? What if it has gone rogue and is just gallivanting around the cosmos, never to return, like the dad who says he's just going to the corner store for some cigarettes and never comes back?

@lucastornado9496 14 күн бұрын

@@Unknown17lol weird simile

@jamesblackwell5141 14 күн бұрын

@@Unknown17 Whaddaya mean? He's not coming back??!! 😱😭

@denysvlasenko1865 13 күн бұрын

"We" (as in astronomers who study this field) did realize that passing stars have a significant effect on outlying orbits.

@Unknown17 13 күн бұрын

@@jamesblackwell5141 How can I put this to you gently? His orbit has become a bit eccentric.

@taleofthestory 14 күн бұрын

Thanks for keeping us informed!!

@mrmagoo9249 3 күн бұрын

If we are to take the Urantia book as a “genuine book” Then we have 2 planets to discover yet And a intelligent life form, classified as a non-breather It would be an interesting thing if it does make legitimate predictions… considering it was written in the 1920s - 1940s

@MeatVision 5 күн бұрын

It makes sense, I guess you need a lot of luck to find it with those distances and axis alterations. Crazy

@lvlndco 14 күн бұрын

I remember an outer planet being thought about in the 70's. It's pretty neat that these teams have been able to find evidence supporting that it may be out there and will be found.

@PASHKULI 12 күн бұрын

Guys, it is not a planet! It is a dwarf (and dead) star, brother to our Sun. Our solar system is a binary star system. By the way Jupiter once could have also become a star but it did not.

@Wayouts123 11 күн бұрын

Disney ahead of you

@michaelevans3904 15 күн бұрын

Thanks for the space info fix.

@justinhorn2395 14 күн бұрын

Can we not directly detect *PNs gravitational effects on the Sun, or KBOs? Could the object actually not be bound gravitationally to our star and simply passed through shortly after solar system formation, I have a tough time believing there is not more gravitational signatures left behind even in simulations, Still, like Moulder " I want to believe".

@user-nt6ie2zx8u 6 күн бұрын

Zachariah Sitchen's Earth Chronicles are worth reading if you have an interest in these things. It's a lot of reading, and redundant at times, but he brings some very interesting things to the reader's attention concerning OUR past as well as some future possibilities. Origins.

@Taomantom 15 күн бұрын

Cutting edge as always!

@zaxko86 14 күн бұрын

It still surprises me that we cant find stuff in our backyard but we can see galaxys far far away. And the beautiful pictures from the James Webb.

@rais1953 14 күн бұрын

Is it strange that we can easily detect huge objects that give off a lot of light and other radiation but have difficulty detecting a small dark object that radiates nothing?

@ssenyl 14 күн бұрын

Why? You can notice a mount 100km away from you, but you can't observe bacteria living on your own hand. These are the same, just different scale

@watcherofthewest8597 12 күн бұрын

The replies are not wrong but you are right too. its the feeling that we should know what is closest to us best...but in life and scientific discovery it is often those things we are closest to that surprise us the most.

@Jon-hh3gz 12 күн бұрын

Simplest answer is we are still young in science and a lot of stuff people might think we should have discovered by now haven't been

@garyphisher7375 10 күн бұрын

@@ssenyl We can see both the mountain and the bacteria. What's your point?

@johanlindeberg7304 14 күн бұрын

A simulation of how the gravitational influence from the galactic center is perturbing the outer planets would be interesting to see.

@markopittman2833 14 күн бұрын

thanks antov , I enjoy your show .

@norbertzillatron3456 15 күн бұрын

When I hear "planet 9", it always reminds me of the special sf gem "Plan 9 from Outer Space". 🤪

@timhaldane7588 14 күн бұрын

SAME!

@pooramelia 14 күн бұрын

Had a feeling I wasn't the only one.

@nostromo7928 13 күн бұрын

I only watched that movie once and never will again. Viewed it in 15 minute increments and even then I thought I would start pulling my hair out! There's another old SF movie with Tor Johnson in it as a radiation-exposed scientist who goes mad and runs around in the desert trying to terrify people. I think it might be just as bad as Plan 9. Can't remember the title just now. 😂 Edit: The movie is called "The Beast of Yucca Flats."

@chrisgriffith1573 15 күн бұрын

I remember when they call this Planet "X"... back in the 70's. "X" for ten, as Pluto was still accepted as a planet.

@richfrank1255 14 күн бұрын

💯 they hated planet X Soo bad they clapped Pluto. .. Just couldn't admit the "conspiracy theoriest" were correct again.😉

@jesusramirezromo2037 14 күн бұрын

Planet X and 9 are different, Planet X was not X because of 10, but x as in unknown, Pluto was belived to be Planet X originally Planet X was supposed to account for errors in Neptune's orbit, and would be the size of saturn, and in the kuiper belt Planet 9 is in the inner ort cloud and the size of Neptune

@berserkasaurusrex4233 14 күн бұрын

It still is. They had to wait until everyone left the conference to make their fake vote because they wouldn't have won otherwise.

@richfrank1255 14 күн бұрын

@@jesusramirezromo2037 ?? Pretty sure planet X was way out and had a extremely large orbit around the sun . I think it was 30,000 years?? Fact is planet 10 was there all along 😁😁

@jesusramirezromo2037 14 күн бұрын

@@richfrank1255 No, that's something they made up after they constantly failed to prove it exists Planet 9 has actual evidence, even if just math

@each1-teach1 13 күн бұрын

i remember in the 90's when nasa already came out saying it was a black whole inside our system - i just think that in the case of some small blackholes they operate like. pocket universes of their own (bubble within bubble) and a physical planet or solar system is within

@kiiturii 9 күн бұрын

when I was a kid I was for some reason very fascinated about planet x/9, but hearing the possibility that it might be a black hole instead sounds 100x cooler lmao

@lux8a226 14 күн бұрын

Anton petrov has become my fav astronomer on yt, always up to date and blud actually knows what he is talking about

@rundmk00 10 күн бұрын

tru dat blud lowkey

@user-px4td5qe7j 15 күн бұрын

in 1960 on the cover of Time magazine; they showed a picture of Planet 9 but they called it Nibiru

@michaelburns1096 14 күн бұрын

There was speculation in the 80s that IRAS detected a large body out there. With all this UAP stuff, I'm thinking of reading Stitchen... Planet 9's orbit hasn't been predicted to around 3600 years long, has it?

@MrJoshsy 14 күн бұрын

Ahh I remember reading this one a couple of weeks ago Was mildly interesting

@302ci1968 14 күн бұрын

I have a big question: how do we know the excentricity of an object that's so far away when we discover it ? How much time needed before being able to calculate the trajectory ?

@bb5979 14 күн бұрын

Its crazy how we can look out thousands of light years away but we still dont know what is in our backyard 🤷🏻‍♂️

@codename495 14 күн бұрын

If a small child walks in front of a brightly lit window at night you can see it pretty well, even from far away. In a pitch black environment a large person could stand within arms reach and you wouldn’t see them. We don’t see the exoplanets themselves, we see the drop in the sunlight when they pass in front of their stars.

@jeffholt9437 14 күн бұрын

@@codename495excellent analogy.

@nk_3332 12 күн бұрын

The deep oceans would like a word with you.

@rogerkulpnik 14 күн бұрын

There are ancient texts that describe celestial objects, like the phoenix, perhaps others that have been seen at 138 year and longer periodicities. Some of these describe intense meteor showers, objects passing by and obscuring the sun that aren’t lunar eclipses etc. The dates of the reports match up also from cultures on vastly different global regions too.

@hamstsorkxxor 14 күн бұрын

138 year period is way too short to a period to be undiscovered planet. 138 years is very short on astronomical timescale. It would put the planet well inside of the orbit of Pluto, not that far from the orbit of Neptune. At that distance, you'd be able to see a major planet using regular binoculars or a cheap telescope!

@stefanandersson7519 14 күн бұрын

Have they ruled out the orbits being caused by a past event, and not necessarily a present one? I'm specifically thinking of the study that came out a few years ago which suggested that we had a close encounter with another star system at some point many millions of years ago - could a star, with its higher gravity, be able to stay further away from the sun but still produce the same effect as a hypothetical planet? Since the orbits are so big as well, I suspect it would take a god-awfully long time for them to make any drastic changes (unless strongly acted upon), which would be why they still have these eccentric orbits... I want to clarify that I'm literally just spitballing here. Would be interesting to know if it's been considered though 😅

@ryan1111111555555555 14 күн бұрын

I love how everyone's so chill in the comments, no one realises that the global level extinction events which seem to happen periodically, like clock work, probably coincide with this planets perigee, meaning that every time it sweeps through the inner solar system it causes havoc on planet earth and we basically start from zero again, I'm guessing global volcanic eruptions possibly coupled with an asteroid or 2, re-surfacing the earth, shifting the tectonic plates etc etc

@denysvlasenko1865 13 күн бұрын

Tried to test your theory? Anything large "sweeping" through the inner solar system on a high-eccentricity orbit would destroy asteroid belt in just a few tens of millions of years, because it would have close encounters with asteroids in it, changing their orbits until they no longer in the belt (impact Jupiter, cross Jupiter's orbit and get ejected from Solar System, etc).

@ryan1111111555555555 13 күн бұрын

@@denysvlasenko1865 I don't think you quite realise just how big and how vast the asteroid belt is, you think one planet could completely wipe it out in a few tens of millions of years lol, I'm not even sure what you mean by 'wipe out' either, there's a slim to none chance that something passing through the belt would actually hit something, it would most likely drag objects along with it due to its gravitational pull rather than physically hit things, since the actual asteroids are so spaced out

@PASHKULI 12 күн бұрын

Guys, it is not a planet! It is a dwarf (and dead) star, brother to our Sun. Our solar system is a binary star system. By the way Jupiter once could have also become a star but it did not.

@ryan1111111555555555 12 күн бұрын

@@PASHKULI Yep probably true, still it's not a good thing for planet earth in my opinion

@stirfrybry1 15 күн бұрын

Nibiru? It'll be fun to see how the science community handles this topic

@kayhawkins5925 15 күн бұрын

As much as people scoff at the idea of Nibiru many descriptions in the Sumerian texts have been found scientifically correct from the asteroid belt to the description of planets. If planet nine exists as a planet doubtful the public will ever know until it's no longer feasible to hide when it becomes observable in the sky.

@Josh_728 15 күн бұрын

Probably like they handled the pandemic

@ThoughtandMemory 15 күн бұрын

Nibiru doesn’t exist. At least not in the cuckoo way Nibiru fantasists think they know.

@thegodofsoapkekcario1970 15 күн бұрын

The first Yakubians still live there and are at war with the Annunaki.

@Nathan-jt8zt 15 күн бұрын

@@ThoughtandMemorywhat in the way that there’s a 9th planet, like strongly evidenced in the video?

@nekdozahadny4846 15 күн бұрын

Aliens in the observatory "they're onto us!"

@l10zzardk1ng2 14 күн бұрын

It's never aliens though

@Lou.B 14 күн бұрын

The "lensing effect" you describe sounds a bit like SMACS 0723. Related?

@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 10 күн бұрын

Great video, Anton...👍

@jimcurtis9052 15 күн бұрын

Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. ✌️😎

@aliceholmes4952 15 күн бұрын

Brown dwarf. Might even have a couple planets orbiting it

@edwardfletcher7790 15 күн бұрын

Hmmm something like that would be MUCH easier to spot, unless you're talking Phobos/Deimos size orbitals...

@MrBlueBurd0451 15 күн бұрын

Brown Dwarf is basically excluded at this point, WISE would have seen anything remotely that size.

@smilebeatz5103 14 күн бұрын

ye in the video he said the JWT could pick something like that up really well because of its infrared capabilities.

@edwardfletcher7790 14 күн бұрын

@@MrBlueBurd0451The number of times Anton mentioned primordial black holes makes me think he's got a personal theory 👍

@BeyondAldebaran 14 күн бұрын

@@smilebeatz5103Does anyone know what is the infrared range on JWST, or WISE? How cool can they detect?

@ConstantContent123 2 күн бұрын

Anton. What do you think about anti gravity made with old tech? Im contemplating a project and wondered what you thought about the etymoligist that allegedly made anti gravity devices and if possible adding A symmetrical RF signal to the original system,maybe inside the platform.

@jelledemaeyer7329 12 күн бұрын

I hope for them to find it or something, next to a major scientific descovery this would be the perfect catalyst for a ton of new scifi movies, books and other media :D

@benspiers6147 15 күн бұрын

Glad to see you back, Anton. I hope you’re okay.

@riyadhfirdausehh 14 күн бұрын

Maybe physics itself is missing something.

@Arigator2 10 күн бұрын

Most definitely. More than 1 thing.

@mikegrimm9492 7 күн бұрын

I think we are missing something in physics

@eamonahern7495 11 күн бұрын

I think the oort cloud mass hypothesis is the most plausible. Could it be that there was a planet 9 until relatively recently in astronomical terms that got destroyed somehow but its influence was such that it kept the TNO's on the orbital path they're on through momentum?

@thewackykid 14 күн бұрын

someone should do a study on... what if there is a primodial black hole of the size and location of where the gravitational anomaly is.. how likely or easy it would be for our instruments to detect.. or what sort of instruments it will require to be able to detect it.. and what methods would have the highest chances of detecting it...?

@ReptilianRichardRamirez 15 күн бұрын

It's just the evil rogue planet from The Fifth Element. Nothing to see here guys.

@josephstaton4820 14 күн бұрын

LEE-LOO DAL-LAS MULTI-PASS!

@timhaldane7588 14 күн бұрын

That explains the Hershey's Syrup dripping down my forehead....

@HombreDeLaNorte 14 күн бұрын

The “Rouge” planets could be my favorite planet color.

@ReptilianRichardRamirez 14 күн бұрын

@@HombreDeLaNorte for some reason this device replaces with word rogue with the incorrect version every single time it's typed. I think i need to delete the cache again or something. So annoying bro.

@halfstache1070 14 күн бұрын

Or Yuggoth.

@revolvermaster4939 15 күн бұрын

Pluto will always be planet 9 to me.

@ImBasedKids 15 күн бұрын

Pluto is a dwarf planet, get over it.

@richardbritton4675 15 күн бұрын

Weird hill to die on

@LyndaHill 15 күн бұрын

Same.

@ekkehard8 15 күн бұрын

Wouldn't it be more consistent to count Ceres and Pluto be #10?

@darkoz1692 15 күн бұрын

@@ImBasedKids- semantics, it's a planet get over it.

@kenshirogenjuro873 14 күн бұрын

I remember one astronomer throwing out the possibility that as far out as these objects are from the sun, it's not outside the scope of reason that a star passing in the vicinity of the solar system could end up picking off a hypothetical planet nine. It seems to me this would require a pretty sizable coincidence for a planet to be out there billions of years herding all the smaller TNOs into their current orbits then getting stolen or kicked out recently enough for the other TNOs to not have reshuffled their orbit. But wild things happen in the universe sometimes.

@Rebel7284 14 күн бұрын

It's certainly good to keep an open mind about planet 9, but there are a LOT of possible explanations besides it. Remembering that we still don't know what the original stellar nursery was for the sun's formation, there could have been many massive objects involved that could have messed up a lot of trajectories before all drifting away.

@davidponseigo8811 14 күн бұрын

It is interesting that we can discover planets orbiting other stars but can't seem to find one in our own solar system.

@ep8009 14 күн бұрын

It's easier when you have a bright star in the background to detect something crossing in front of it. This would be against the black background with all the stars, producing no infrared heat and being far enough away to be extremely dim. All theory but it's actually harder to see things past the inner planets but in the solar system

@cherriberri8373 14 күн бұрын

Imagine you're trying to find something near you in darkness with a far away light source, but by taking photos with a camera. Most of those photos are going to result in nothing and not even be pointed at the thing you are looking for. And even when it is pointed at the right thing, the only light going back into the camera is from that far light source reflecting from the target into the camera. But looking for far away planets is like looking at a cars headlights, you can see pedestrians going in front of car's headlights even if you cannot see the person themself.