New Tactics with Greg Koukl

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@thebibleformula
@thebibleformula 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great book! The book is full of examples that you can readily apply to anyone else in meaningful conversational style.
@Yesica1993
@Yesica1993 4 жыл бұрын
35:00 The new non-Christian tactic (no pun intended) in answering the, "Do you consider yourself a tolerant person?" question is to say, "Yes, except I am not tolerant of bigots." They no longer have fear of being called intolerant. They are happy to say they are intolerant of what they define as bigots. I'm just letting you know, because I've seen it over and over.
@SOULSafeProductionZ
@SOULSafeProductionZ 4 жыл бұрын
You are an asset!
@GBaker-fx9om
@GBaker-fx9om 3 жыл бұрын
Ask them, "What do you consider a 'bigot' to be?" They would have no choice but to admit that a bigot is a person who is intolerant of others. Then you can apply the roadrunner tactic. "So, by your own definition, would you agree that you are a bigot?"
@John14-6...
@John14-6... 3 жыл бұрын
I plan on purchasing the book because it sounds like it has excellent techniques to defend your faith. Im hoping it also has ways to open up the conversation with the gospel
@festushaggen2563
@festushaggen2563 4 жыл бұрын
What I've found with presenting evidence to unbelievers is that their ability to dismiss it is greater than any evidence you can give them. If they're set on not believing, it doesn't matter what you show them. The true power is in the gospel of Jesus Christ so make sure they get that. Also accept that most of them are going to reject it. Approach it as sowing seeds that take time to take root and grow. God will bring the increase. If they're going to believe it'll be by the calling of God and the work of the Holy Spirit. We can't save anyone.
@Godlimate
@Godlimate 4 жыл бұрын
Trucker_Pete if we decided to accept evidence on the basis of the gospel, then we could believe in any religion and call it “evidence” because the standards of evidence is lifted, and all believers of different religions would argue the same case that their own gospel is right. We can move passed evidence and go straight into faith and belief, but we’d be creating a new set of problems which doesn’t get us anywhere closer to finding certain truth.
@festushaggen2563
@festushaggen2563 4 жыл бұрын
@@Godlimate Yeah that's one of the common arguments to dismiss Jesus Christ. "He's just another religion". That's doesn't work just based on the Bible alone which is a verifiable historical document that names people, places and events that even non-believing historians and archeologists can verify as true. Eyewitness accounts cannot and should not be easily dismissed, especially when those who made those claims suffered and were executed for them. Hardly something a group of people would do for something they knew was a lie. Then there's also the many prophecies that were written hundreds of years in advance that gave specific details as to the place, and time of the birth of Christ and then His life and death. All of those being fulfilled is a practical impossibility. That's a very small summary from the written word alone and no other religion even has that. It also cannot be dismissed by any counter evidence saying otherwise. Anyone who brushes it off is doing it by sheer will alone. Not by facts. I'm not saying exclude everything outside the Gospel in apologetics, I'm saying that the Gospel should always be given as it's still the most powerful thing as God's word.
@Godlimate
@Godlimate 4 жыл бұрын
Trucker_Pete Islam has made many fulfilled prophecy claims, Catholicism’s validity is stretched to the abundance of miracle claims. It’s not necessarily eradicating Christianity from the picture, but like I said, it brings a new challenge to the table when religions are competing against each other. Persecution only promotes the sincerity of the belief but it does not validate the belief itself because there are other religions who hold sincerity to their beliefs too, and rather than dying for it, they would instead kill for it. In either way it promotes a form of power, but I would probably argue that what makes Christianity stand out above the rest is the protagonist (Christ) who took it upon himself as the scapegoat. This was a radical social phenomenon that shaped our society in how identifying as a victim gives its own power because society that develops a conscience to empathise is becoming more popularised.
@festushaggen2563
@festushaggen2563 4 жыл бұрын
@@Godlimate Islam has made many prophetical claims but have they all come true? That's the real question. If anything hasn't, even just one, it casts doubt on the validity of not only the claim but the god they credit it to. And their willingness to kill for their religion is nowhere near as remarkable as those willing to die for their eyewitness testimony. Having all 11 original apostles and then Paul willing to give up their lives, careers, families, be imprisoned, flogged, beaten, threatened and ultimately executed for claiming Jesus rose from the dead if they knew that wasn't true makes no sense at all. They gained nothing. No power, no fortune, nothing for it. In fact they lost everything and they knew they would. All they ever had to do was give up and go home. They were offered many chances and denied them all for what? A lie? 12 people being willing to do that defies any logic or reason regarding human behavior. Christianity is also unique as you said by Jesus (God essentially) suffering and dying for His people. That's unheard of anywhere else. Also unique is the Christian path to salvation. We can have no part in it. Every other religion is a works based religion where the believer can take some credit for themselves for attaining it by their devotion and good works. Christianity is all about the work of Jesus Christ on the cross. All we're called to do is believe on Jesus, the work that He did on the cross and His resurrection to be saved. Many don't like the fact that they can't help out by doing something and add those things themselves, hence some of the cults and denominations. When it comes to atheists, I like to remind them that they're not really atheists unless they mean it as the willful rejection of God. Because many will say that there is no God but that claim has a burden of proof on it to give evidence to support it. Of course there is none. When faced with that fact, I've had some concede that agnostic is a more accurate name for their beliefs. That way they can avoid that burden by admitting that there's a possibility that God exists but that they personally don't believe from the evidence given. Another way to look at all the religions is that either one is true or they're all false. They cannot all be true so we can eliminate the claim that they're all valid. The different faiths make contradicting claims, especially about the identity of Jesus and that alone leaves the conclusion that they cannot all be true. Once that's established, they can be narrowed down by their foundations, historical evidence, documentation and the nature of their followers and converts. When closely examined and researched, the Christian faith has far more credible, historical, archeological, prophetical and testimonial evidence than all the rest. It's not even close.
@hwd71
@hwd71 Жыл бұрын
Having read the first edition I bought the 2nd edition which I am still reading and gleaning.
@4ucmikey
@4ucmikey 4 жыл бұрын
I tell everyone no one keeps scriptures in truth but Michael.. and then I post scriptures. “But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.” ~ Daniel 10:21 (KJV)
@4ucmikey
@4ucmikey 4 жыл бұрын
Greg did a good job on the Genocide/Sinocide topic. God commands love, God doesn't make request. Love is law, vital people understand Love as Command not as Request to understand the bible. Gal 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Luke 7:47 Therefore I say to you, her sins, which are many, are forgiven, for she loved much. But to whom little is forgiven, the same loves little.”
@4ucmikey
@4ucmikey 4 жыл бұрын
God is love, God commands love, that really is the core of the teaching. John 13:34-35 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.” 1 John 4:7-8 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.
@4ucmikey
@4ucmikey 4 жыл бұрын
Muslims dont need to be changed the prophet Muhammad s.a.w said, “you will not go to heaven unless if you believe, and you would not believe unless if you love each other, shall i told you what if you do you will love each other? disclose salaam among you (hadith of muslim 1/74)
@StephaniePeeleIAm
@StephaniePeeleIAm 4 жыл бұрын
The goal of these tactics is to not have to answer any questions of a non-believer. Lets face it, we don't want to have to prove that a man came back from the dead, and we don't want to have to prove that this man is the mind that created our universe.
@LindeeLove
@LindeeLove 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus must have known he would kick off such a huge industry of Savior based books explaining what the Bible means.
@StephaniePeeleIAm
@StephaniePeeleIAm 4 жыл бұрын
When someone says, "Greg, you are the one making the claim, so you bare the burden of proof"....if Greg then responds, "What do you mean by that?".....This doesn't help bring anyone closer to Christ.
@cameronclark447
@cameronclark447 Жыл бұрын
The 3 questions is meant for people who make truth claims. If I say God exist I better give evidence God exist.
@SOULSafeProductionZ
@SOULSafeProductionZ 4 жыл бұрын
I love Greg's book... "What do you mean by that?" "How did you come to that conclusion?" "Have you considered _______?"
@frankwillet9221
@frankwillet9221 4 жыл бұрын
SOULSafeProductionZ Ha ha ha. That’s the position of the atheist. The creationist claims they have a relationship with god. What do you mean by that? How did you come to that conclusion? Have you considered you might be deluded? The atheist has nothing to answer.
@SOULSafeProductionZ
@SOULSafeProductionZ 4 жыл бұрын
@@frankwillet9221 And atheists, like you, claim and believe that an unobservable "event", evolution can be categorized as science and fact even though the only proof you have is your opinion. And you call me deluded? Give me a break.
@SOULSafeProductionZ
@SOULSafeProductionZ 4 жыл бұрын
@@frankwillet9221 The atheist has much to answer because the atheist has to answer why reality is not in their side. The atheist has to explain the assertion of humans coming from apes when there is no observable evidence of it. They have to explain why the finches on the Galapagos Islands are still finches and not dogs, cats nor elephants. Adaptation is the only thing that can be shown, but many atheists push adaptation as if it is evolution. The only way you can show evolution is in science fiction movies (FANTASY) where you can manipulate time and visuals to tell the story you want to tell, but at the end of the day, it's still only AN IMITATION OF LIFE! Not reality! No one has billions of years to wait for something you claim will happen, but that will never happen. And we definitely don't have time to wait for some magic trick of a monkey turning into a human. Again, sir, you're the deluded one. You believe in the myth. You believe that magic tricks and mindless processes formed all of the precise intricacies of the universe. You believe that NOTHING created everything.
@frankwillet9221
@frankwillet9221 4 жыл бұрын
SOULSafeProductionZ Atheism has nothing to do with evolution. And then you projected a bunch of false beliefs into me. Why do creationists do this? Why do you tell other people what they think and believe and get it so wrong?
@iQuiiKKz
@iQuiiKKz 4 жыл бұрын
Frank Willet So what do you believe?
@SOULSafeProductionZ
@SOULSafeProductionZ 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought the book
@frankwillet9221
@frankwillet9221 4 жыл бұрын
What a waste of time. You need to understand why the atheist doesn’t believe. And for that you need to ask each individual.
@SOULSafeProductionZ
@SOULSafeProductionZ 4 жыл бұрын
@@frankwillet9221 So, why don't you believe then?
@SOULSafeProductionZ
@SOULSafeProductionZ 4 жыл бұрын
@@frankwillet9221 But somehow, I get the strongest, strangest feeling that you'll avoid answering the question and then try to tell me that I actually need to ask every atheist...
@frankwillet9221
@frankwillet9221 4 жыл бұрын
SOULSafeProductionZ I don’t believe the bible because it’s not believable. From the beginning it gets it wrong about how the earth was formed and It just goes downhill from there. Neither am I superstitious and I don’t believe in demons, angels and magic. Then further reading has shown that it is completely made up from earlier myths and stories and the stories about Jesus were made up after he died.
@frankwillet9221
@frankwillet9221 4 жыл бұрын
SOULSafeProductionZ On top of that, believers reasons for believing are based on misinformation and logical fallacies. The apologetic ministries are dishonest and lie about evolution and believing on faith only is not a good reason to believe anything.
@4ucmikey
@4ucmikey 4 жыл бұрын
He says Socrates before Christ :P He doesn't really get it. Before Abraham, the Spirit of God was. Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the Lord, And besides Me there is no savior. Acts 28:25 So when they did not agree among themselves, they departed after Paul had said one word: “The Holy Spirit spoke rightly through Isaiah the prophet to our fathers, Romans 8:14 For as many as are "led by the Spirit of God", these are sons of God. Luke 4:1 Then Jesus, being filled with the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was "led by the Spirit" into the wilderness,
@Yesica1993
@Yesica1993 4 жыл бұрын
Who doesn't get what?
@4ucmikey
@4ucmikey 4 жыл бұрын
@@Yesica1993 Greg misses the Spirit of God coming down upon Jesus therefore he doesn't see God the Savior before Jesus.
@4ucmikey
@4ucmikey 4 жыл бұрын
Greg's a smart guy and he has faith in Jesus, but he needs to know God is love and God is a Spirit to really go forward. Acts 9:15 But the Lord said to him, “Go, for he is a chosen vessel of Mine to bear My name before Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel. For I will show him how many things he must suffer for My name’s sake.” Galatians 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love. John 17:26 And I have declared to them Your name, and will declare it, that the love with which You loved Me may be in them, and I in them.” Hebrews 9:14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? 1 John 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him. 1 Cor 13:13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
@4ucmikey
@4ucmikey 4 жыл бұрын
Love worshiper, not Christian.. when you Really put love first you will see how the other term gets in the way of the law. John 8:31 Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. John 13:34-35 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.” the prophet Muhammad s.a.w said, “you will not go to heaven unless if you believe, and you would not believe unless if you love each other, shall i told you what if you do you will love each other? disclose salaam among you (hadith of muslim 1/74) Leviticus 19:18 You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord. Leviticus 19:34 The stranger who dwells among you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God. Partiality is Sin. Love is law, religion cannot be factored in. James 2:8-9 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you do well; but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors Deu 10:16-20 Therefore circumcise the foreskin of your heart, and be stiff-necked no longer. For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality nor takes a bribe. He administers justice for the fatherless and the widow, and loves the stranger, giving him food and clothing. Therefore love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt. You shall fear the Lord your God; you shall serve Him, and to Him you shall hold fast, and take oaths in His name.
@ventingskeptic2826
@ventingskeptic2826 4 жыл бұрын
Why isn’t the bible enough?
@mylucidadventures6540
@mylucidadventures6540 4 жыл бұрын
this is a joke right?
@frankwillet9221
@frankwillet9221 4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Mione No. I thought a book by god shouldn’t need any help.
@digitalsublime
@digitalsublime 4 жыл бұрын
Because people don't read anymore, and have a presupposition that it's a waste of time, because is old and irrelevant?
@4ucmikey
@4ucmikey 4 жыл бұрын
Bible is the only trustable source and I have never heard anyone keep it 100% in truth. I preach it everyday.. not the entire bible, but select passages that I feel cover the heart of the message.. my guess is this is what is meant by tactics. People will only read so much.. what do you pick to share?
@SOULSafeProductionZ
@SOULSafeProductionZ 4 жыл бұрын
When was this book promoted to be something to replace the Bible?
@LindeeLove
@LindeeLove 4 жыл бұрын
He doubled the number of bad tactics.
@cameronclark447
@cameronclark447 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by bad tactics?
@LindeeLove
@LindeeLove Жыл бұрын
@@cameronclark447 An example is, Greg has the burden of proof when he claims that Jesus AKA Yahweh created the universe. But rather than having to defend his claim, he tries to switch the burden of proof by asking the non-believer, what do you think evolution is true.
@tsapp2831
@tsapp2831 4 жыл бұрын
I thought Greg was a Calvinist?
@joshuang6896
@joshuang6896 4 жыл бұрын
What about it?
@tsapp2831
@tsapp2831 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshuang6896 kinda funny he's selling books on tactics don't yah think, according to Calvinism the un elect can't repent and the elect can't perish.
@tsapp2831
@tsapp2831 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshuang6896 lol John Calvin.
@tsapp2831
@tsapp2831 4 жыл бұрын
@UCeAdiMpGsi7KVFYMOh1mVng according to Calvinism the ones God created for salvation can not resist, the majority are pre selected to be the logs in the flames of hell .
@joshuang6896
@joshuang6896 4 жыл бұрын
T Sapp Could God decree and use the Columbo Tactic to bring His elect from spiritual deadness to grace and salvation?
@frankwillet9221
@frankwillet9221 4 жыл бұрын
Whoever says there is no truth?
@Godlimate
@Godlimate 4 жыл бұрын
I’m an atheist and I just want to say there is no truth, that we were all here by accident, and that my belief in not believing in god is my way of saying there is no god. 🙄
@Yesica1993
@Yesica1993 4 жыл бұрын
Uh, the entire culture? They may not word it exactly that way, but everyone says something along the lines of, "This is my truth." Which is logically ridiculous. Truth is truth. There's no "my truth" and "your truth."
@frankwillet9221
@frankwillet9221 4 жыл бұрын
Yesica1993 I’ve never heard anyone say that either apart from creationists.
@festushaggen2563
@festushaggen2563 4 жыл бұрын
Those who say there's no such thing as absolute truth are dependent on its existence to prove it.
@Yesica1993
@Yesica1993 4 жыл бұрын
@@frankwillet9221 Oh, please.
@4ucmikey
@4ucmikey 4 жыл бұрын
Greg makes mistakes because he doesn't read the bible close enough. He teaches Jesus is only savior and its not true. He needs to read the bible, not write books. Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. John 3:5-6 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. John 4:24 - God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth. Hosea 13:4 “Yet I am the Lord your God Ever since the land of Egypt, And you shall know no God but Me; For there is no savior besides Me. Acts 3:26 To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from your iniquities.”
@frankwillet9221
@frankwillet9221 4 жыл бұрын
Creationists just don’t get it.
@Yesica1993
@Yesica1993 4 жыл бұрын
I am up to 45 minutes in this video. Please give the time stamp where they were talking about creationism. I must have missed that.
@somerandom3247
@somerandom3247 4 жыл бұрын
"Try our all new tactics!!! They are the same old tactics but we called them new because you sheep will believe everything we say :) Yay! More money for me :)"
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