Toyota

Funny of you not to mention the price drop coincided with higher inventory and slowing sales before the massive price cuts in the beginning of 2023.

@@justin9152 Not funny at all. Of course Tesla would raise prices when demand exceeded supply. Musk said the prices for Models Y and 3 were "embarrassingly high". When demand at that price fell off, well that's when Tesla began to cut prices, and they were ready for that. In the last year the average cost to produce a Tesla across all Models was down $3000 to $36,000. Incredible! They're still the only company outside BYD to make a profit on EVs. They will cut prices more to keep selling more cars. Tesla will soon have the next gen small Teslas starting a $25,000 with the innovative Modular Manufacturing System and that, with other innovations, will make them profitable too.

He probably got 2x back the Model 3 price from his youtube channel. 😁

@@rsamd make that 3X, and he will buy the Highland and make another 3X to 4X off the views of that series of videos. If they bought that BMW, they would lose money on the videos of that ultra boring brick on four wheels! I figure they would make only 0.25X on that one because nobody wants those! Their attempt to polish that turd, show how out of touch they are or is indicative of promotional dollars flowing to them to push this flagging in sales, model by trying to influence us! Good try BMW, but no German cigar for you!

“EVs are too expensive!” *big price drops to shrink the gap with ICE cars* “Ugh price drops?! EVs don’t retain their value!”

How much was it 65,00?

@@amirtz3342 61 000 with 4 winter tires and 6 years service included

@@amirtz3342 I have the top trim i4 M50 and it cost $77k (on my profile). Real range on 19inch tires is 270 miles during mid-spring to mid-fall and as low as 180 miles during the winter when the temp dropped to the mid teens Fahrenheit. The good news is where I live, our cold weather is around mid 30's F and that leave me with 220 mile range which still gets me to the office & back without having to charge outside my home.

@@obieWanmotivationit is a great car for that price I would buy a model S.

We have an i4 eDrive40 since June 2023 and love it. Test drove multiple cars before settling on the i4. Interesting that the i4 in this video is pre-facelift ~April 2023 with the old style gear shifter. I can’t believe we’re still judging the value and utility of EVs based on whether or not it has a frunk.

Because it decimates resale value for current owners of the cars. All cars lose value after leaving the lot, but if they drop by $30,000-$40,000 over the course of a few months like the Model S and Model X did in 2023, some buyers will be put-off by purchasing cars from that manufacture.

@@justin9152 you're ignoring the price markups most legacy dealers were adding to most cars at the same time. It was everywhere.

@@justin9152 Oh no, my car value dropped by 2k! Anyway I am selling my car and buying the new one at the discounted price. You're assuming you aren't buying the same car. Your car dropping in value doesn't matter if its value drop is because the car can be bought brand new for cheaper. And it isn't like other cars aren't affected either.

Well said you articulated the point very well 95% of charging should be done at home

Good luck with the suspension

@@VoltLover00 The suspension has been improved for over a year now. My Model Y's and my wife's Model Y's suspension is great. ... If you're gonna talk smack about Teslas, you need to keep up with the latest developments. They're changing rapidly. Like Sandy Munro said, Tesla's innovating at the "speed of thought".

I have a model Y performance, and feel the exact same way

Congrats that’s what I’m going to get. It really is the best EV. The reliable charging network is a huge plus and very important which every other company has totally failed I’m hoping they refresh the new Model Y.

Wheels are optional

@@Chris-ly8wt Winter wheels are. On tesla it was a lot of things that were missing like seat material opsions, interior color, eksterial color a sun roof, head up display, el trailer hook, etc. Even a instrument cluster is not included om m3 and y.

@@ulyden1947 your comment is wrong on so many levels. Tesla Model and Model 3 come in two colors, black and white, but I assume you want a color such as Red, Brown, Tan, Blue, or gray? Well that just adds cost to the production line on a couple of vehicles that are in the Buick price class, not the Chevy or Hyundai or Kia range. As far as the material, Vegan Leather was chosen on the basis of Tesla not wanting to contribute to the pollution of growing cows, which create methane, is offended to those from PETA. The speed, turns signal, high beams, headlight and range / battery status are only 12” to the right of the driver’s center line. There are aftermarket displayed to install in the ridge of the dash, but I already have a GPS Based speedometer as part of the Escort Live App, which works with my Escort Max 360C GPS aware, Radar / Laser Detector. So I would mount it in front of the steering wheel. It already has a total glass roof, and a small glass roof in a metal roof, is just an invitation for an interior leak, when the drain channels get clogged with tree debris or dirt. Tesla do come with a hitch receiver, the ball is available from just about any towing store including Hertz, and many camping stores as well as the Tesla Accessories online catalog. As far as winter wheels for snow tires, it recommend a set of stamped steel wheels with wheel covers, as there is no sense, beating up pretty Aluminum wheels in salt spray!

@@Chris-ly8wt they all come with wheels. But in the winter I’d pull those pretty wheels off and put stamped steel wheels on, to preserve the beauty of the aluminum wheels while protecting them from harsh salt and other snow and ice melters.

@@DishNetworkDealerNEO I dont see whats wrong? Can I have it deep blue? Dark gray, Dark green? How much to respray? Color options are cheap when ordering. Most is option metallic. Same with seat materials and colors. Synt vegan leather brakes in few years and are expensive to replace. Don't want it. Sunroof is cool. Never had any issues. Even have a cover to cover glas opening when strong sun. Adding on a speedometer in a new car? Stupid. I have had a electric tow hitch for 15 years now. Just push a button and its there. No tesla for me

The cover is there to not show all the empty space (and poor design) behind it.

BMW should have put some storage up front… seriously, what were they thinking? The back of the car is pretty tiny too. They could leave the fancy ‘engine’ cover if they wanted… whatever…

Wrong on all fronts. BMW had decided to not build single-use architectures for their EVs (the Mercedes strategy with the EQ line). Instead, at this stage of EV evolution they are using one architecture to support ALL powertrains. In doing so, it is less expensive to manufacture the EVs, BMW can produce the EVs on the same production line with petrol vehicles, and most importantly, BMW can adjust the mix of vehicles based on customer demand. Right now Mercedes is sitting on a boatload of EQs as demand has slowed dramatically as well as their equivalent petrol vehicles. MB now has two underperforming production lines (EV and Petrol) where BMW can optimize production on one. BMW has stated as EVs continue to evolve they will decide what vehicles will be built on an EV exclusive architecture/facility. This will happen when BMW designs 3-4 EVs using a common architecture as they can cost justify a dedicated manufacturing site and architecture.

BMW EV owners get hit from all sides: From Tesla owners who say we overpaid, and from Mercedes owners who say we couldn't afford a real luxury car...

@@BogeyTheBearBMW owners do not care about Tesla (quality from the 80‘s), or Mercedes (pimp car)

wtf is a pimp car@@martinuelten7668

Exactly, and the highest depreciation rate is the first year

re: "Depression is a part of automobile ownership. If you can’t handle it. Stop buying new cars..." ikr...? cut the bullsh!t of thinking every car you buy is a Ferrari or Porsche (when you know damn well you're not "shelling out" for a Ferrari or Porsche).

Never heard of a brand called Toyota?

Everything is political. Mirage: I spend little money on cars. Range Rover: I wipe the road with money. Toyota: Economical life. etc.

@@TYAC_TPE_SF-Bay Toyota is anti ev, that's their political message. They also scam you with their hybrid agenda so there's that too... people eat it up too. You would think people would at least question when the Automaker that makes the most hybrids say that hybrids are the future... but nope. They look up Tesla's catching fire totally disregarding the fact the hybrids are the worst offender for fires... yes even worse then petrol cars!

And at 50,000 miles they’re falling apart. If still running at 100,000 miles owners have rebuilt major components. When my 2019 X1 with under 25,000 miles required $4,000 I’m repairs and maintenance I was done

@@PeteLenz I share your concerns. I was interested in leasing a 2024 X1 M35i for that reason, I don't want it after the warranty expires. The monthly in the Western Pennsylvania region was insane. They wanted like $790/mo with a relatively large down payment. So I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing - rent them for work every chance I get.

Also, good point on the value of M3. I've got burned as well. But I see cars might follow the suit of cell phone lifecycle. Due to improvements in manufacturing and speed/efficiency of assembly cars will no longer have much of a residual value other then collector/sentimental case. There is just no way that demand will outpace supply especially when buying a new car will mean very little in terms of daily driving in the world of connected services keeping your car up to date SW wise. I believe people will just get 2 year car plan w/ say BMW like they do with say Verizon.

Exterior looks nice. That interior is trash though.

Because it’s a BMW not ur average egg shaped ev.

Because they took the 4 series and bolted a battery pack to the bottom. 😂

Model Y

​@@borinvlogsI like to sit low.

It's called the Model Y

Model Y. In multiple Tesla internal documents they call model y a hatchback

@@M_dot202 define wagon

I’m an iDrive fan ofc as well as Mazda Connect and MI-drive select but I also love Audi MMI and Tesla OS! Cadillac also does a good job

That would require Tesla to draw up an entirely new interface for the new screen. That takes money, which defeats the purpose of putting an iPad on the dash on the first place. Tesla is locked-in on that touchscreen forever.

Lol. That's one of many reasons why I went with the i4 M50.

Because the car would become worse. It is like asking apple to make the screen wrap around their phone... it would just make it worse lmao. There's a reason why apple has stuck with the same screen design since 2008 with just bezel reductions. Not just apple either. Unless you count folding phones I guess but they're like 1500+ dollars.

You have to opt in on the bigger, wider wheels to end up with the 230 mile figures.

@@BogeyTheBear the test was conducted with the 19 Hankook Ventus tires. The 19 Pirelli P Zero Winter tires for the other test.

Consumer Reports took an i4 M50 out to 318 miles on a 75 mph real world run. I doubt they had the 20-inchers on them.

That’s a damn lie. I’ve driven my i4 M50 for over 14,000 miles and the real world range on 19” P Zero is 270 miles (or higher) as advertised so long as you’re not driving full time while throttling it in Sports mode. It’s a very efficient EV given its power and torque of almost 600. In the winter the range drops but the battery is efficiently high in temperatures as low as 45F or higher (Spring, Summer & Fall).

Thanks for sharing.

CT likely wont drop in price for a few years. Last I heard they are building about 160 Cybertrucks per week. It's gonna be a while before they ramp up enough to be able to drop prices. Especially on an all new platform. The 3/Y platforms are 7 years old.

re: "wait until the CT is 6 months old....1/2 price." exactly if you're crying about M3P depreciation Roman just wait, that CT is going to give you something to cry about. those ugly monstrosities are $100 Grand.

I would say after a year. It also depends on production. If Tesla is making just 10k a year by the end of 2024... maybe you won't have to buy the foundation series package?

@@phillyphil1513 120k with the foundation series package. You are totally paying a premium right now and the people that buy know that.

The Model S and Model X Plaid owners got it the worse, prices dropped $30,000=$40,000 seemingly overnight.

@@justin9152 That’s some insane economies of scale! I don’t think I could recover from that.

@@Merabbit Taycans worse. You lose 75k as soon as it leaves the dealership with zero miles on it. Not a joke. Porsche is so desperate that if you buy 3 Taycan turbo S's you can get on the list for a porsche GT3RS for MSRP. Usually you need to spend 2 million for a CHANCE to get on the list. Still even with that you're better off spending 2 million and selling those cars... kinda since you still aren't guaranteed to be on the list. So you're best off just spending an extra 100k over MSRP to buy a GT3RS. People still think you can get walk into a porsche dealership and buy on for the 300k msrp LMAO!!!

@@justin9152 That's the premium of buying a new car refresh that is absurdly popular.

Exactly, if you have the budget

Then why do you keep tuning in?

@@justin9152 because they came up in the KZfaq recommendations but I've just flagged it, to never recommend. Goodbye vehicle dealer gouging apologists!

They don't have anything until 2025 right?

@@thejosh0100 as far as new vehicles go? I think the Dodge hornet is new (kind of) for the 24 model year, but I think that's it for stelantis

Lol. A lot of folks complained when the M4 was released and it sold very well. I'm sure when the Neu Klasse's are released, people will find many things to complain about. I will continue to enjoy my i4 M50 and cross that bridge whenever.

@@obieWanmotivation a few months back at a gas station, a guy pulled into one of the pumps with one. The little kids in the Outback next to him started yelling out "suey!" and making pig noises.

So you bought the ugliest beaver fake grilled EV on the market including the equally fugly assfaced iX and you think its a flex? So cringe!

Tesla's entire lineup looks dated. The S and X original designs date back to the late 2000s. 3 is already 7 years old and the Y doesn't look much different from the 3. Even with this minor refresh it looks stale.

The car literally has a lower drag coefficient now

why?

It is the other way around. The tesla model 3 is 20k cheaper

@@user-wr8dm7ie6c Yes sorry i should have put 'more exensive' 😀

It won't matter. Electrons are electrons. An adaptor will work just fine.

My model s had a metal roof

Ehhh Tesla does its own range testing to EPA standards then reports results to the EPA.

Tesla refuses to publish their battery capacities, self-reports the range of their vehicles, and uses a rolling start to get their 0-60 times. Tesla looks better on paper because they're writing the narrative in their favor. Buy one, and reality ensues. Thus the complaints about range which they shovel off to one side.

@@davidradtke160 strike that, reverse it.

Filling gas is quick, but it is so quick that you have to dedicate that time to nothing else but filling up. At least you can fold a recharge session into a meal break on the journey or, heaven forbid, while you're at home or work...