It’s a shame Ludwig wasn’t fast enough to join the trend
@Respear7 ай бұрын
He was probably avoiding it ☠️
@doublestarships6467 ай бұрын
Ok coomer
@bigcooltony4377 ай бұрын
so sad 😞
@garnelien80257 ай бұрын
or he was about a year early lol
@YSleepish7 ай бұрын
This is Mogul Mail, not Ludwig. Stop mixing it up, it makes them angry.
@Jonathan_Collins7 ай бұрын
She's like an auditor for Twitch's sexual content policy. Constantly pushing to see how far she can take it before they either ban her permanently or she changes the rules.
@SappyEuphoria7 ай бұрын
Haha perma ban you almost had me
@CraiiZeD7 ай бұрын
i think this was literally the top comment somewhere else
@Factguy1227 ай бұрын
who’s she
@Griec_e7 ай бұрын
Why would they ban their best streamer? Twitch is getting more money from these people than anyone else
@Amaling7 ай бұрын
@@Factguy122 literal pornhub/onlyfans girl
@aircatcher68917 ай бұрын
I like the idea that Twitch saw Boogie break the meta and said "mm this needs to stop now"
@limitedbom22067 ай бұрын
it's sad twitch is at the point where they completely tune out the thousands of people in the community complaining non stop about the problems, saying and showing clips of how the only fans girls are trying to go one step further to see what they can get away with and nothing changes. The only way twtich does anything is if some of the popular guys step up and go out of their way to show just how stupid the rules are, like tectone saying look at me i'm pretending to jack off on stream and twtich cant ban me because of their rules.
@kabs4207 ай бұрын
right!!! as soon as the men join in it’s a no go😂😂😂😂
@aurelien57477 ай бұрын
Honestly I don’t even care about most of the drama he talks about, but Ludwig is such a good and funny presenter that it’s entertaining enough to watch
@bobhanson10377 ай бұрын
This is mogul mail...
@Respear7 ай бұрын
Who is Ludwig? This is Mogul Mail...
@eb_elite13757 ай бұрын
right like im interested bc of him its weird
@ruairi91097 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s not Lud
@bigcooltony4377 ай бұрын
this guy thinks Mogul Mail is Ludwig 🫵😂
@mayuwu44087 ай бұрын
I think this sounds like a resonable compromise, although if they want to actually let people moderate their own experiences then labeling the 18+ category as "Pools, Hot Tubs, and Beaches" is weird and it's name should more clearly describe what they intend it to be.
@LazoGT7 ай бұрын
but if you name the category "this is where you get nakeddd oooooohhhhh" then every advertiser on your site will be on your ass
@Marryjanesbud7 ай бұрын
There really shouldn’t even be an 18+ area on a streaming site geared towards young teenagers & kids. I’m So sick of ppl trying to normalize hyper sexual content man. It’s degenerate behavior & the longer that lifestyle is glorified, the more incels & 304’s are produced from it every year. It’s disgusting.
@myqtie7 ай бұрын
if they outright label it 18+, advertisers may see that and not want to advertise on twitch
@christianberry30317 ай бұрын
@@luthaidan4232true
@777skyline7 ай бұрын
Ludwig showing his balls was truly the harbinger of what's to come to the streaming world
@lenoxpI7 ай бұрын
Facts
@MacDaddySam7 ай бұрын
The thought of boogie just hoppin on stream with his bare butt, balls, and back just out and about will haunt me for the rest of my days. Thank you for bringing this to my attention Mogul Mail, I hate it :)
@ulto29157 ай бұрын
if he was a big old guy with a big burly white beard would you still be yelling at him?
@MacDaddySam7 ай бұрын
@ulto2915 if nobody wants this car, I guess I'll take it
@Yulenka-7 ай бұрын
Don't be haunted, just learn to see beauty in all kinds of human bodies. That's what people look like, all of us
@Waffles176437 ай бұрын
@@Yulenka-nah lil bro that shit ain’t beautiful
@Rossoneri27 ай бұрын
@@Yulenka-It's a sloppy mess, Stevie wonder wouldn't approve
@alpacamax34047 ай бұрын
I was putting up a straight face watching this until Tectone perfectly finished Lud's sentence
@TheBananamonger7 ай бұрын
The way Lud chuckled and said, “thank you”
@Rembreiker_lychec92577 ай бұрын
It's crazy that people are watching and paying her for this when she does actual hard core content that’s available for free.
@unitdroid51587 ай бұрын
I think alot of it comes from countries where content like that is banned but twitch is allowed cause yknow its mostly gaming
@EarlHare7 ай бұрын
THIS. This is what I don't get. It has to be all wrapped up in the fact that it's a livestream and you can interact with her, but people really need to be honest with themselves about what they are getting. 2 seconds of your existence being acknowledged is not worth $, it never was, you will feel just as empty after as before and here is the crux of why they spend so much, it's the same as a drug.
@lordfizzz7 ай бұрын
It's that weird parasocial shit they talk about
@drakesacrum84457 ай бұрын
@@EarlHare I don't get that either. There are sites for streamers doing hard core content and some of them are actually talented entertainers outside of corn like Melody who now mostly does safe for work stuff and is still successful. There is no actual reason to watch this streamers in twitch.
@jabbawookeez017 ай бұрын
this is what gets me.. bro she got hella free shit on the hub of her litterly getting her cheeks clapped.. so why tf are idiots giving ger money to have clothes on 🤦🤦
@user-sw7od4yg7n7 ай бұрын
Calling it. They will just swap clothing to tight fitting clothing, gym wear, or "superhero spandex". Then do something else, like giving a stuffed animal or object a sensual massage or riding a rocky horse or something.
@Artimidorus7 ай бұрын
Went to the work out section shortly after this, there was a lady doing yoga in sheer, see-through, panties. Her yoga consisted of full display of her privates with the legs open to the camera and thrusting the hips. Reported it and she was not touched. So, guessing you are correct and that will be the next move as it's already starting.
@dontanyellphillipjr59137 ай бұрын
true
@shimeco99617 ай бұрын
Don’t give them ideas 😞😞
@DetoNateFPS7 ай бұрын
im almost sure this is where it started lol, full circle.
@Ceylonwithcheese7 ай бұрын
Is there a reason Ludwig is dressed like a plumber
@Uhdksurvhunter7 ай бұрын
It really does not seem like Twitch itself has had a battle with nudity etc. To me, it feels like viewers and sponsors working their ass off to make Twitch realize this is not acceptable for a site such as theirs, and twitch plugging their ears for as long as they can, untill they start losing money and have to make a statement.
@megaluhdon7 ай бұрын
I think what’s been the most frustrating of all for me was how artists got fucked over in the process. The reason the meta was introduced in the first place was for artistic nudity and even then it was pretty stringent about no genitals. And of course the new innovations of bad actors PLUS the lack of (or I guess now, DELAYED) moderation on Twitch led everything to spiral down. Idk I feel like these “new” features should’ve already existed on the platform. Lud’s absolute right that it’s very much a “Catch Me If You Can” situation lmfao.
@hugothecat7 ай бұрын
good to feature ludwig again on the channel
@maverickcotsen35427 ай бұрын
Already got age restricted. KZfaq was quick on this one 💀
@RomnysGonzalez7 ай бұрын
Morgipie about to popoff and create a new meta. The ethots evolve faster than anyone in this world
@Anngrl697 ай бұрын
It’s impressive and unfortunate
@stickmandaninacan7 ай бұрын
Twitch can say whatever they like about pretending to do something about the sexual content meta they started by drawing attention to it in the first place. Fact of the matter is i still open up their site and majority of the content on the browse page is still "18+..." And all sorts of sexual content. Nothing has changed and its just become the popular thing now to try and get away with it in whatever way they can. Ir feels like it will be a while until this meta actually dies
@jimmyneutronium40167 ай бұрын
Imagine being an exec at Twitch and having to discuss the innovations of pornstars and how to work around them. Amazing times we live in.
@nobodytrulyimportant7 ай бұрын
Still never going back to Twitch, but thanks Lud!
@lythe20667 ай бұрын
who's Lud? this is mogul mail
@maurits48457 ай бұрын
@@lythe2066 I know right? Rookie mistake
@DatDaDatty7 ай бұрын
we all know twitch is not gonna follow the rule and still let it slide. its all a cover up
@steezsauce69937 ай бұрын
twitch handled this a lot better than i thought the containment is smart
@SanDiego619RS7 ай бұрын
Yeah, okay… what ever you say Mr. Zipper.
@Gorbgorbenson7 ай бұрын
Twitch has to REALLY enforce that shit, or it wont be the end. Even then, it's insane that that content is on the same website as normal gaming streams. I was thinking about this before I watched the video, and I feel like the only way they could get rid of that content is banning advertising for other websites on their platform. That would come with its own issues, though, like sponsored streams being banned. I think it's just something that has to be accepted as a norm on twitch now.
@CarlVolt7 ай бұрын
Can't wait for Ludwig to yoink and twist this meta
@Beaurisque7 ай бұрын
4:57 "It's basically an Anything goes category ." Immediately scrolling over Rambo The Ape Driving A Gold Cart 24/7 channel.
@Remiwi-bp6nw7 ай бұрын
I literally looked up this channel 30 minutes ago wondering where the uploads were. So yeah you could say I've noticed you upload less lol.
@airroasted40417 ай бұрын
SCP-21**1: Twitch's Pools, Hot Tub, and Beaches category
@barioth69697 ай бұрын
All it took was tectone and boogie doing it for twitch to change their minds, truly the heroes we didnt want but needed.
@alpacamax34047 ай бұрын
It's a super tough question: How do you make sure explicit content won't be seen by unwanted audiences, especially underaged folks, while allowing the maximum amount of freedom of expression, when it's hard to define what is explicit or not in the first place, when you have to do all of these moderations in real-time(cuz they're live streams).
@a.w_.7 ай бұрын
I think the clear option is just not feeling the need to allow the maximum amount of freedom and personal expression. This is not something that’s necessary for a media platform to run.
@alpacamax34047 ай бұрын
@@a.w_. I doubt a US-based company and users from the US will be cool with that(freedom of speech stuff). Even if they will, where do you draw the line so that it won't backfire and hurt those who actually try their best to put out good content?
@fart637 ай бұрын
Do they really need to include sexual content under freedom of expression though
@alpacamax34047 ай бұрын
@@fart63 Yeah I get your point. The problem is where do you draw the line? Sure those who are naked on the stream are definitely producing sexual content. But what if, for example, a female streamer simply wears something slightly explicit while doing normal content(like that piano girl). Do we enforce some dress code for female streamers? That would be unfair to them, right? Cuz male streamers would have more freedom in terms of dress code. So let's say we enforce the same dress code to all genders. But that would create a new problem: now some types of content revolving around cosplays would not be allowed on Twitch (for example male streamers wearing cat maid costumes), which are perfectly normal content but wouldn't be allowed under the dress code. This is a made-up example but the gist is it's just hard to draw the line.
@daftyduck_7 ай бұрын
I'm glad Ludwig is here covering this shit and it's not JUST Critikal. I enjoy hearing different sides.
@unai499997 ай бұрын
I'm not even mad at ppl trying to loophole the new policies, like, it's not thir fault that the rule is written so vaguely.
@DexTag7 ай бұрын
Finally something good from this entire saga. My personal view is that Twitch has transformed ages ago (just to the people still somehow thinking it's a gaming platform despite all the categories completely unrelated to gaming), but it got out of control and turned into a alternative soft corn streaming website on some channels. And these "some channels" started to become a larger proportion, just mixed in with everything else.
@bruvulouz7 ай бұрын
As expected. They stopped it when guys started doing it lol
@LucidProtean7 ай бұрын
Am I wrong? I feel like the blurred thumbo is gonna increase viewership (by a small % at least). I feel like if you're a coomer searching for something to goon to, a blurred image that can be unblurred by one click isn't gonna stop you. And once you do open the stream to see if it's sometime you're interested in, the streamer has more control in making sure you stay. Honestly the unskippable ad at the beginning is a bigger deterrent. I can't imagine someone deciding what to watch, seeing one thumbnail that's unblurred but slightly suggestive and one that is blurred and more suggestive, and that forcing the decision towards the unblurred streamer.
@llllIIIlIll7 ай бұрын
Twitch tos does not matter one of the lines says you cant promote porn links etc but they literally have !phub etc that leads you to porn and non of them get punished even if they break other tos rules they get 1 day ban normally 3-4 would get you perma they have 15+ bans
@quinqx82367 ай бұрын
i remember opening twitch after that update and literally seeing overflow being streamed. if you dont know you dont know.
@Cous-Cous7 ай бұрын
That mirror on his mic better not get lud cancelled oneday 😅
@Anabriella7 ай бұрын
More videos, Mogul dude 🙏
@deron22037 ай бұрын
This meta is just disgusting. Especially since many youtubers have shown that in chatting topic on twitch, It isnt age protected and so little kids or just young teens are seeing this for top streams.
@evanlee937 ай бұрын
Twitch needs to just ban anyone trying to make anything remotely sexual on twitch
@sokay.7 ай бұрын
pls make a video about tom scott. that guy is a legend and just "quit" for awhile
@bobbyliink92527 ай бұрын
I can’t help but to see twitch as the uncool table in the high school cafeteria
@grampaseri7 ай бұрын
Twitch isn't fighting a losing battle. Twitch isn't even fighting. Twitch fucks around and finds out just as much as the streamers until advertisers (and viewers, but only insofar as viewer outrages makes advertisers nervous) push them to clean up their act. Twitch could easily ban all of these, but they don't care as long as it makes money and isn't enough of a liability. Twitch is further disincentivized to ban when competing platforms i.e. Kick are even more loose because they're less beholden to advertisers in their current expansionist, investment-funded models. The only losing battle is how long until legislation and regulation catches on as can be seen with several jurisdictions passing laws that went into effect this year making the age-verification of actual porn sites more strict.
@hayhaydz7 ай бұрын
it's fitting that this video got age-restricted
@TripnotizeVM7 ай бұрын
Now if Twitch removes the pool category I would say Twitch is returning to it's glory days
@Maxim.Nazarenko7 ай бұрын
There should be no half measures.
@Sluka.7 ай бұрын
Ludwig looks like a B-list actor in a bad Jurassic World ripoff
@rasmusjensen82717 ай бұрын
I think it's safe to say that at least 50% of the twitch community needs psychological helps
@Superfluous.7 ай бұрын
... you mean to tell me twitch's 'innovation' backfired spectacularly once more? Geez, who could've possibly have guessed that?! Definitely not LITERALLY EVERYONE.
@gamefreak20167 ай бұрын
Boogie, not the man we expected but the man we needed to make Twitch wake tf up and start enforcing their own rules against everyone, even female streamers.
@elibrabo12387 ай бұрын
watching ludwig talk? nah i like to watch the reflection of his hands in the back left, looks like an italian man is doing shadow puppetry
@xepixicewarriorx26897 ай бұрын
SCP foundation been silent since twitch done this.
@rkgtraven7 ай бұрын
Are Ludwig and Amouranth friends? Why isn't he addressing the fact that Amou said she was being forced to to lewd stuff but before this meta died, she actually joins in on her own free will??
@plumber13377 ай бұрын
One of the major problems is that Twitch is 13+ but allows easy access to content that's clearly 18+ to underage users. Those streamers use their platform, as you and many commentators said, to possibly redirect viewers to other content... So, why the FLIP is Twitch trying to control the symptom instead of controlling what causes that symptom, which is the redirection of the users?
@botsomethingorother7 ай бұрын
I thought epsteins log release date got delayed
@anonwhyz7 ай бұрын
this is ludwigs way of saying he is going to transition to become a cornstar
@arkain17 ай бұрын
This episode got age-restricted *immediately*. I fully blame Tectone.
@TheKnaveOfSpades7 ай бұрын
When will Zelda become a twtich meta :'(
@joosh_uwa7 ай бұрын
it is so weird seeing you look normal now, no more stache or buzzcut
@steelhawk80267 ай бұрын
The only way this type of content will ever stop is if Twitch just starts perma banning everyone that does this without mercy.
@_Michael_.7 ай бұрын
I didn't think I'd hear ludwig talking about boogie's fupa, but here i am.
@howdee_7 ай бұрын
I love the more effort into these videos but I can’t help but miss hearing your opinions about all the latest stuff
@ryanhatesgirls7 ай бұрын
when Twitch becomes Kick at the end
@ManBearJordan7 ай бұрын
Lud is both knowledgeable and greatly interested in the coomer wars.
@Bighyphyaids7 ай бұрын
He’s got skin in the game
@arkain17 ай бұрын
@@Bighyphyaids * foreskin in the game.
@Ins4n1ty_7 ай бұрын
It's crazy how the men had to start doing it for twitch to cut it out. Almost like it's a double standard...
@youngrootv7 ай бұрын
Well I don’t care personally, I only watch Twitch these days to catch my friends streams here and there, I think it’s funny when people say that Twitch is a gaming streaming website. It’s not imo, just chatting is the biggest category and pretty much always has been.
@todhold26737 ай бұрын
Just went to twitch. Of the featured streams, 60% are half dressed women and all of them are in Just Chatting.
@ubesaaa7 ай бұрын
Being able to turn off that cancerous category is a great change. I hope they don't make it so regular mature streams have to be under the same kind of filter as these softcore streams.
"Today, we're talking about the finale of the 2nd ever coomer war on twitch." 😂😂😂
@misfortune50917 ай бұрын
today i learned what bubble porn is
@RangerXXT7 ай бұрын
coomers in shambles? i guess, I don't even know whats happening anymore
@nicolamontori7 ай бұрын
I literally only open twitch on the following tab to avoid this. Just out of curiosity after watching this video I went to the Just Chatting tab and I kid you not 9 out of the top 15 streams in there were of sexual nature. Twitch just straight up does not care to / does not know how to moderate their website.
@kieserite7 ай бұрын
5:01 le fishe
@RubenTheCartographer7 ай бұрын
Not Ludwig pointing up to the title! Oof! Ancieeeent
@oak_847 ай бұрын
Where. is. the. GODDAMN STASHE?!
@mokeymale83507 ай бұрын
I remember when Twitch was supposed to be for games…
@J4ckski7 ай бұрын
in before the ban
@Noelle4607 ай бұрын
I love going to mogul mail when i have no idea whats happening
@threeofjays64207 ай бұрын
Will you talk about amouranth lying?
@Whoiskimb7 ай бұрын
Yo that's English major script-writing 101 right there mofo made me spit coffee😂😂😂😂 1:49
@TeppiaxD7 ай бұрын
This is what pissed me off when the Hot tub meta was happening and people were saying maybe we should have less sexual content on twitch and everyone called you an incel for saying that, now look at twitch. Saying you don’t want every platform to have overly sexualized people isn’t incelish, the same way that saying women should be allowed to be as sexual as they want and men have to just get over is not feminism.
@ruairi91097 ай бұрын
Honestly Twitch’s rules kinda confusing and seem slightly contradictory
@beans000017 ай бұрын
twitch is crazy, that’s why I’m a proud KZfaq Live watcher [THIS POST HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY TRUE KZfaq PATRIOTS]
@ChristinaMagma7 ай бұрын
It wasn’t an issue to twitch until men started doing it 😂
@HOWLUCKIISJJ7 ай бұрын
Hello Ludwig Van Beethoven.
@simpforsable7 ай бұрын
ayo, that's basically what they did with rampant crime in San Francisco.
@twisted86317 ай бұрын
Tectone be playing with Fire
@Augustp087 ай бұрын
Nobody talking about how the audio cuts out in the last third
@spankyramone97967 ай бұрын
no they shouldn't contain then, they should ban them
@dreweab7 ай бұрын
5:27 just here to bookmark the most re-watched part of this video
@DrKoneko7 ай бұрын
Thanks Zipper.
@char11947 ай бұрын
Thank fucking god In the past I could keep adult content off my twitch home page as long as I stay logged in, but ever since the twitch meta started theyve been creeping into my recommended even though I have never once interacted with any of those channels Itd be nice too if they wipe the clips from the twitch meta off the site too so they no longer get autoplayed when Im just chilling watching smash clips or something
@Riomojo7 ай бұрын
You’re uploading less because you’ve been watching so many cheeky streams
@ItsOats6 ай бұрын
it started when twitch decided to add pools, hot tubs, and beaches rather than putting a stop to it when they got out of hand...but hey as long as they're making money what's a child innocence really
@VixeyTeh7 ай бұрын
I think this is a very good and reasonable solution. Just have all the smut, sex and nudity in a clearly sectioned off area, which can be turned off or looked up at the viewer's discretion. So that if people don't want to see that, be it because they are underaged, asexual or wholesome, they can safely not see it. If anyone wants to see it they can go ahead to that section and see as much of it as they want. This way no one gets any unsolicited sex pushed on to them and anyone who actually wants that stuff can enjoy it unrestricted. Thus is particularly good for the safety of anyone who might be triggered by trauma, trying to kick an addiction or just be an innocent underaged impressionable child. I want to reiterate, this is very good for those of us that just don't want to see any of that stuff. Which is actually the mainstream majority. Even those that want to see it, most of the time wouldn’t want it to randomly pop up when work collegues or family are around. They would want to be able to only see it when they have privacy. So it is from a viewer's point of view, fantastic to have it safely in a clearly sectioned off area of the site and not have it randomly pop up amongst general content ever.
@tokerxd16617 ай бұрын
"Pools, hot tubs and bitches" category finally working as it should
@RobotnikPlngas7 ай бұрын
Then people wonder why are there so many men and women with porn addiction these days... This is a real problem and people seem to ignore it.
@foopygoopy18607 ай бұрын
Sadly Tectone and Boogie and abunch of other female streamers arent perm banned.