|NEW| Ultimate Guide To Mental Health C&P Examination

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We talk with Dr. Vonetes, a licensed Psychologist and C&P Examiner in Florida, about common C&P Exam questions.
00:05 A Typical day in the office
02:54 Discussion of the DBQ
04:59 Most Common Mental Health Conditions
06:02 Why don’t personality disorders qualify?
09:02 Can you aggravate or separate personality disorders?
11:47 Can a C&P Examiner give a diagnosis?
12:22 Can a C&P Examiner change a diagnosis?
13:46 What you SHOULDN’T DO at a C&P Examination
16:07 Is a C&P Exam a good thing?
20:19 Should I bring my Safety Plan to my PTSD Exam?
22:05 Okay to ask examiner if they reviewed medical records?
26:14 What can you do about an inadequate C&P Exam?
28:38 Can you refuse VSR C&P Exam?
31:24 What happens when you need an addendum?
32:55 VA asks for re-examination from another examiner?
35:34 Take a copy of the DBQ to the exam for assurance?
36:26 What if examiner number shows up as spam?
38:13 What would it take to get Dr. V as my examiner?
40:37 Any advice for a virtual C&P Examination?
43:43 I have a massive C-File, can you realistically read it all?
45:30 Is there something I am supposed to fill out?
46:55 No buddy for a buddy statement, what do I do?
48:31 What if my examination is too far away from me?
49:37 Should I answer my PTSD Exam honestly?
53:43 Wrap- up
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@walter992 Жыл бұрын

I am dreading my PTSD C&P exam. I have been receiving treatment for almost two years and just now feeling like I can fully trust my BH therapist. Not sure how you can be expected to talk about your darkest moments with someone you have only known for 20 minutes. I haven't even talked about these things with my wife......?????

@devongonzalez2037 Жыл бұрын

mine is tomorrow morning. video conference. A bit nervous.

@hwhitley93 Жыл бұрын

@@devongonzalez2037 how did it go I got mine in a week

@lezgurl67 Жыл бұрын

Same

@ZZ_90 Жыл бұрын

@@hwhitley93 how did yours go? I have a virtual C&P Thursday.

@hwhitley93 Жыл бұрын

@@ZZ_90 I haven’t gotten the results but it was like 40 mins long was supposed to be way longer

@michaelgonzo8820 Жыл бұрын

Good Day I watched almost every video and followed the information and in 7 months I got 100 percent P and T for PTSD I suggest if you watch these and follow what they say it works . Allison and Dr Alfred explain so much I filed by myself and Only had a VSO after I had already filed Glad I watched these so grateful

@jamesturpin8271 Жыл бұрын

Thank you. This bridged a gap over an otherwise gaping hole in my process of trying to get benefits for 30 years now. My C&P examiner stood behind his profession 100%, but never once, made me feel as if I were falling into yet another dark place thats so common in my day to day. He too was a bridge for me. It's good to know that just watching your video shows that you, Alfred, and Alison, keep the human element of understanding. That's comfort that helps ease the complications, and sometimes, embarrassing talks, someone like me feels, and has to go through, and having to explain, when otherwise, an uncomfortable conversation to share with strangers. Your videos are very helpful.

@arrow_head24 Жыл бұрын

I like Tele-Health/Video better than in-person.

@russell311000 4 ай бұрын

I would take the cnp in a hook shirt and draws. Don't forget the mask while doing the interview.

@deadlyoneable 4 ай бұрын

Had my C&P exam for depression last week. This period of waiting is excruciatingly painful. Very nervous about it

@LuisDiaz-sd4pp Жыл бұрын

Dr. You are so right in all your comments. I can see that you really know the ins and outs of early (late '60 early '70's) issues we faced.

@jimmie2349 Жыл бұрын

Very Helpful... Thank You Both for the Transparency & giving your time

@ms38355 Жыл бұрын

I had a private doctor DBQ and refused to go to VA Back C&P exam. I instructed the VA to rate me based on what I submitted. They did and I went from 20% to 70%. 38 CFR is clear, for new claims they must rate you, even without their C&P.

@showmeyourdaleel6568 Жыл бұрын

That doesn’t work for PTSD. A VA doctor or va paid doctor must diagnose it. You can submit a private opinion, but for PTSD the VA wants you to use their expert.

@arrow_head24 Жыл бұрын

Va doesn’t have a 20% for PTSD. It’s 10 30 50 70 & 100 bro. Lol

@tc3690 Жыл бұрын

@@showmeyourdaleel6568 You are correct. If you look at the M21 manual , it says what you just said. Initial PTSD claim has to be diagnosed by VA or VA C&P examiner

@ms38355 Жыл бұрын

@@arrow_head24 I never said PTSD. My claim was for my back. And my comment had zero to do with what type of exam and everything to do with having to attend a C&P for a NEW claim. I didn't go to the one the VA scheduled because I had a complete and actionable DBQ by a private doc and 38 CFR states they must rate me based on the evidence on hand, and they did. So, stop assuming.

@ms38355 Жыл бұрын

@@showmeyourdaleel6568 Perhaps, if that is in writing. Anyway, my comment was a general one just to let veterans know that if they have a private doctor fill out the DBQ , completely and accurately, (except PTSD per you) they don't have to submit to VA C&P., unless they really want to.

@fredtjack23 Жыл бұрын

He's a very good doctor 👏 ❤️ he understands

@lg7728 11 ай бұрын

Great team and I love both you! It is nice to make the work entertaining and I hope you do more videos together.😊

@ljsteward5050 10 ай бұрын

I genuinely appreciate your discussions as I have many detailed questions you cover. I was awarded a Purple Heart and Silver Star as a combat medic serving with the Marines in Vietnam. My challenge is finally dealing with the issues that happened so long ago. Your information is helping me in many ways. A big thanks to both of you.

@monicastokes302 8 ай бұрын

More power to you, brother. Service connection is service connection whether it happened 5 months or 60 years ago. I was in from ‘79 to ‘92, applied in late 2019, got 80% right off the bat, increased to 90% for the secondary of depression (could barely get out of bed some days and thinking about…well, you know). With the crazy VA math I am technically at 94%, one % point away from being rounded up to 100%. I got fired for the first time in my life this year- memory issues and problems with stress adaptability and anger. I am unsure if I should even try for another job in my field I have been in for 40 years. I am going for 100 this month. I wish you a good VSO as I have- Ex-Marine, or someone knowledgeable to guide you through. This is not the time to ‘buck up’, it is time to tell the truth and stop covering things up or minimizing them.

@bertcollard6619 9 ай бұрын

I’ve had very bad luck dealing with VSOs since the 90s it wasn’t until I started using a lawyer on my appeals that results happened . I tell co-workers to use a lawyer on an appeal it’s like having a guardian angel on you side .

@sunnindawg Жыл бұрын

Informative

@brokeboijd6983 11 ай бұрын

I got my first c&p exam in a couple of hours haven’t slept up watching this and their video from 2 years ago to be perfectly prepared

@moonshot9510 5 ай бұрын

How was it

@brokeboijd6983 5 ай бұрын

@@moonshot9510 not good denied didn’t really complain enough felt rushed

@russell311000 4 ай бұрын

@@brokeboijd6983Don't give up. Go back harder.

@russell311000 4 ай бұрын

@brokeboijd6983 Those bastards. Don't give up keep trying.

@cassiuswilliams6633 9 ай бұрын

This is good to &ave copies of your service medical records. This is connection between service and present conditions. Im going to try to get SMC O or R1 for and injury i endured in service and still currently effecting me and my daily life. Keep your service medical records on standby because it can definitely help more to benefit you fr an increase in rating. Never leave the service without it.

@tonyvpounds32 Жыл бұрын

What is the safety plan that you mentioned? Also, in regards to the C&P exams, what is the time window for appealing the results? I was approved for service connected compensation, but strongly feel that I was low balled and they down played the percentage and have at minimum , two dozen secondaries that can be tied to my disabilities, to take me from 90% service connected (60% combined) to the hundo club!

@Jason-96 Жыл бұрын

I just got done with my mental C&P Exam! 15 minutes via video conference. Wish me luck...

@MrOmar0021 Жыл бұрын

Update?

@ricardof9394 Жыл бұрын

I did a virtual C&P for mental health and I was rated at 70pct. So total I am at 80pct now.

@berlinbear11b18 Жыл бұрын

Congrads

@deadlyoneable 4 ай бұрын

How long did it take to get the rating after you C&P exam?

@Phantom0fTheRouter Жыл бұрын

Actually, any pre-existing condition, especially personality disorders, could be proven to be made worse by service (reinforcement of negative actions), and are therefor, very appropriately (any condition aggravated by service), service connected. Discounting all such disorders, as non-service connected point blank as this Psychologist did, shows a lot of bias.

@LuisDiaz-sd4pp Жыл бұрын

Some examiners are terrible!!! My initial PTSD C&P was horroble. She did not asked me about the stressor or symptoms. Denied me. I have PTSD and MDD diagnosed at the VA hospital!!!

@excitationofstereocilia2103 Жыл бұрын

Same here written severe anxiety right in my record and denied think it takes 3 appeals though...

@donnacoffin4068 Жыл бұрын

what does you decision letter say? it will tell you why they denied it (or if they approve it, why you didn't get a higher amount)

@derekcasanares4785 Жыл бұрын

Video C&Ps can be great

@LuisDiaz-sd4pp Жыл бұрын

And they can bad too!!!

@derekcasanares4785 Жыл бұрын

@@LuisDiaz-sd4pp they were a blessing to me and several collegues

@elia.8993 Жыл бұрын

Mines was virtually and was fine with me. Save me commute time and overwhelming fact to see a psychologist face to face.

@samsungiphone Жыл бұрын

By watching your videos maybe you guys can help me with my claims.but how do I get out of my current attorney?

@Verticalpedalgarage Жыл бұрын

After years of fighting I finally got noticed of a scheduling for a C&P exam. When I called the VA to ask what I need, they told me not to worry about anything because it’s going to be a paper C&P exam and that the doctor would review my claim and represent me to the VA with their findings. Have you ever heard of a “paper C&P? What is it? How can a doctor accurately represent me without interviewing or evaluating me?

@lg7728 11 ай бұрын

I had an ACE exam, and I was granted 50% for migraines from 0%.

@stevencraig1335 9 ай бұрын

Should you get your CNP result back In a timely manner

@tommoore577 Жыл бұрын

I just had a c&p exam for mst ptsd. I researched the dr. And he has lost his credentials 4 times. I don't feel it went very good. I was not allowed to talk about all of my problems only what he ask about. If it was bad I will call cck.

@berlinbear11b18 Жыл бұрын

Any updates? He sounds like perfect hire

@Troy-rl4tl Ай бұрын

What if I’m already diagnosed. Will the C&P exam be done just to confirm, say for example a ptsd diagnosis or major depression while on Active Duty so already service connected.

@robertleski3307 Жыл бұрын

I just got some old medical records that I didn't know I could get and they should help my PTSD claim and I didn't know if I could get them entered in my claims file now. And could I bring them to my c&p exam that's coming up. Thank you

@donnacoffin4068 Жыл бұрын

you should also enter have them entered into the VA system. Don't rely on the examiner to put it in your VA file.

@practicalprepper47 Жыл бұрын

What is the Safety Plan you keep mentioning?

@barbaramatthews4735 9 ай бұрын

I have a virtual exam for depression. I didn't choose this, it was assigned.

@Brandon-tz5pn 9 ай бұрын

Howd it go? I have mines tomorrow

@barbaramatthews4735 9 ай бұрын

@Brandon-tz5pn Mine's tomorrow too.

@markhudson4282 9 ай бұрын

Any advice?

@franzie4158 3 ай бұрын

I just went the VA C&P exam, and I think it was a scheme. How can it be explained that I went to the exam in Wednesday afternoon, and received a letter from the VA Friday in the mail that I was denied? Seems to me that the results was already decided before the exam was completed.

@donnacoffin4068 Жыл бұрын

I had a C&P examiner not even have my records. Told me to call the VA. I called Records who wanted me to send them to me to print out over 800 pages....Oh hell no. Not my job.

@charlenharis1204 Жыл бұрын

Me too ! I'm glad I brought me.

@Drathaar01 9 ай бұрын

My first C&P for mental health was a waste of time. The doctor asked me two questions, the second one I couldn't understand him. He was Greek and has a really hard accent to understand. I asked him to repeat the question and he said, "Ok, I've heard enough." The entire call lasted five minutes. It would have been shorter if I didn't ask him a question at the end. Then the prick denied me. Two questions, one answer. Higher level review didn't care. I'm waiting for another C&P now.

@deadlyoneable 4 ай бұрын

Damn bro. Sorry to hear that.

@imveryhungry112 2 күн бұрын

This doctor is very smart person. I guess thats why he is a doctor 😂

@tomasmrod 6 ай бұрын

I submitted a personal statement (21-4138) with my ptsd claim. But I realize that I didn’t fully and clearly describe my symptoms and experience. Would it be advisable to submit another 21-4138 in this claim providing more clarity and detail of symptoms?

@russell311000 4 ай бұрын

Have your spouse write one or a coworker. It holds more weight.

@rasinCaine_Gen 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for this video Canadian Veteran here.. Thanks for this video. I went through similar process here I had a good Dr do my assessment nice lady Doctor. 4 hr... long exam I Filed for my Diagnosis of PTSD ,Major Depression. Presently waiting for decision. Claims are estimated to tske 140 day to process. Canadian Vets are also given a percentage rating Monthly payments or Lump sum . This Dr is really nice I wish had a Dr like him

@karlnordinger5968 10 ай бұрын

The presentation should read : Clinical psychologist( Ph.D. )" not " Doctor " . I asked my " older C & P " Doctor " how many covid shots have you had - he said four. I told him he should have had six [ initial covid 19 (2) , boosters (2), bivalent boosters (2) ] .This told me I'm being evaluated by a " Doctor " who doesn't take care of business and is not conscientious . Shakespeare wrote , " the patient must minister to himself "and the DSTM - 5 is a folio for half -wits ( everything is a mental illness ) .

@subway1391 11 ай бұрын

I messed up my PTSD C&P exam two weeks ago, is there a second chance to talk to the examiner?

@buzzsawyer2289 Жыл бұрын

Question for you...I had a recent C&P exam for Major Depression and the rater listed me with 4 symptoms from 30%, 3 symptoms from 50%, and 3 symptoms from 70%. I can't find a regulation to state how the VA will rate me but do they rate based on the range the majority of the symptoms fall in or the range the highest symptoms fall?

@MrOmar0021 Жыл бұрын

From my research and other 100%P&T Vets, they take in consideration the worst symptoms. Any update?

@buzzsawyer2289 Жыл бұрын

@@MrOmar0021 Yes I understand your reply but I think my question was unclear. So let's say you have three symptoms chronic sleep disorder, depressed mood, anxiety and one other that falls into the 30%, but then you have three symptoms and a 50% similar to the previous and three symptoms in the 70%. Do they give you 30% because more of your symptoms fall in that range? From my experience I just got rated 100% PNT The majority of the symptoms did fall into the 30% but they went with the more severe symptoms. That's my update. The reason I asked the question is because in doing research I noticed that there was a site that said it would be 30% cuz more symptoms fall into that range. I sent it a statement of support a claim to rebute this in advance. I don't know if it help but they did rate me at 70% which is what I wanted!

@MrOmar0021 Жыл бұрын

@@buzzsawyer2289 🔥❣️🔥❣️ Yes regardless of you having 30% 3-4 symptoms and the amount on the others, by VA Law and 38CFR they have to rate you in regards to the worst symptoms of each disability. Which seems it’s what happened in your case and is correct ! BUT in most cases Examiners/Raters make the mistake in ignorance of the VA Law and rate based on the higher amount of symptoms in lower %.

@buzzsawyer2289 Жыл бұрын

@@MrOmar0021 Yes And that's what I posed. I noted that depressed mood doesn't have any quantification of severity whereas near constant depression and anxiety does any have to leverage that over let's say the static symptom that shows no frequency. I read a post somewhere that that's how they figure out what range it falls in and I couldn't find any help. I lost so much sleep over it. Thank God I went with my gut your father statement is support acclaim. I got really good with regulations and statement support of claims from this recent claim. I'm now 100% P&T

@MrOmar0021 Жыл бұрын

@@buzzsawyer2289 Mmm understood, was the decision short after exam or did it take a month? My normal anxiety coupled with the VA Process anxiety is killing me. Have one last C&P exam and then the waiting game

@marcjohnson4385 Жыл бұрын

What if one of the things you can't forget is the sounds of the hospital ward at night mine have been like that since 1975.

@toddwatson6288 11 ай бұрын

ptsd

@kerriemacon5494 Жыл бұрын

My claim was denied without me ever being allowed to have a C&P EXAM

@charlenharis1204 Жыл бұрын

Me too. I hired hill and pontan. I'm going to get one know ! Best of luck.

@Brandon-tz5pn 9 ай бұрын

Do you know why? I got scheduled quick and was wondering why.

@kerriemacon5494 9 ай бұрын

There's no way to tell with these people but good luck and I wish you well.

@captainkirk3697 5 ай бұрын

Read the denial and get the reason. Then get an appointment and a document that refutes the denial reason. Then file a supplemental claim with the new evidence.

@jc6112621 8 ай бұрын

I have watched a few of these videos with this doctor and I'm beginning to question the quality of service I just got with my 10 min ptsd c&p exam the "dr" was about as indepth as a wall and worked as hard to get to figure out the issue as a dead cat. I would probably got farther with the dead cat to be honestly. I fucking hate people

@danielalonzo7445 Жыл бұрын

A person can act, look and speak fine at the time, and then collapse and die the next minute due to any disease.

@donnacoffin4068 Жыл бұрын

sounds like me...when I have to go for say an appt, when I get home I literally crash.

@hwhitley93 Жыл бұрын

I have a cp exam I am currently still in does that help ?

@MrOmar0021 Жыл бұрын

Update?

@hwhitley93 Жыл бұрын

@@MrOmar0021got out last month had a shitty co examiner

@captainkirk3697 5 ай бұрын

They can search for key words…..”PTSD”…..”mental health” “depression” “anxiety” “GERD”…. Easy, even if they’re lazy.

@charleshamilton5127 8 ай бұрын

You guys need to remember that not everyone knows short initials for acronyms. Don't be lazy and throw out letters like C&P thinking everyone knows what that is. Please. I've been listening to some of the postings. But end up only getting some of what is said.

@borrago 5 ай бұрын

Sucks to suck

@charlenharis1204 4 ай бұрын

I hate the system!!! One big game!!!

@2023Red Жыл бұрын

Could you please explain just how the vA provides an overall disability rating. In other words, does a 60% and a 40% rating for different disabilities necessarily add to 100% or some lower number? What is their formula? Confusing because my total is less than the parts for my total VA disability.

@michaelmiller4657 Жыл бұрын

I had similar questions I was instructed to look at the va compensation calculator other then that I know from my own experience that If you have a 70% disability rating then if you get under a per say 50% on another rating it will not go over a total 70% but if you get a total 75% or between 75% and 80% they round up to 80% with the rating

@Blaxspirit Жыл бұрын

If you have 70% and then get a 50%, they will do 50% of 30%. Leaving you at 85%. Your next % will be of that last 15%.

@2023Red Жыл бұрын

@@Blaxspirit Your example clarifies the question. I assume then the only way to get to 100% is to get a rating of 100%. That is the math as I see it. Did I miss something?

@kyleb8670 Жыл бұрын

@ketoman8873 it's wonky, but easy to understand once it's explained. Say you get a rating of 50%, that means 50% of you is still good. Say you get a second rating of 50%; that's 50% of your remaining good 50%, so it takes you to 75...which rounds up to 80%. At that point, you have 20% good left. Say you get another disability rated at 50%. That is 50% of your remaining 20%, so raises you from 80 to 90% disabled. Say you get ANOTHER disability rated 50%. That bumps you to 95% which rounds up to 100%. The higher you get, the more it requires to get to the next rating. I'm not saying it's right, but it's the way they rate

@2023Red Жыл бұрын

@@kyleb8670 Thanj you. I get it now!

@masterwrench4252 Жыл бұрын

38min in "what if the # comes in as spam" don't think you're understanding what that means to us older vets. SCARES THE FRACK OUTTA ME! I don't answer unknown numbers.

@Megaslob 4 ай бұрын

cfr 38 3.326 section A and B states that your own private doctors dbq is key word “adequate” I’m not a lawyer but I would highly say to never go to a c&p if you have adequate examination and records from your own doctors especially for mental health. It’s states they need to use your doctors report for compensation purposes. Never trust a c&p examiner they have NO right in my opinion to form ANY sort of diagnosis who the hell are they!! Your own doctor knows you better some some quack who makes a diagnosis in 15 minutes. Better off being denied and apealonf them with a lawyer these rating “idiots” aka specialist do not even know the CFR and the appeal will trump a moron who does follow the rules. I been there fk the VA study the cfr know the cfr and you won’t even need a lawyer and always select to take it right down to a hearing in person in Washington because that shows you mean business and the likely hood they even want you to go to Washington is nill. Cite the cfr and they won’t have a leg to stand on … but make sure you do at minimum have a lawyer look over your doctors dbq and nexus if you try and fight this on your own.

@Bandito-Dorito 2 ай бұрын

People who request for the board will be extending their VA claim by atleast 6+ months if not a year..