NEW UPDATES! Zorin OS 17 vs Mint | Which is better for new users?

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InfinitelyGalactic

InfinitelyGalactic

5 ай бұрын

Considering the new updates to both Zorin OS 17 and Linux Mint 21.3 right around the corner, I thought it would be high time to evaluate these distros in terms of which one is better suited to the new user.
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@purpasmart_4831
@purpasmart_4831 5 ай бұрын
I think Zorin OS has a much better UI, that alone can help new users out. First impressions matter!
@easymoney480
@easymoney480 5 ай бұрын
Too many "pro" features in zorin os come standard in linux mint
@Nemesis-db8fl
@Nemesis-db8fl 5 ай бұрын
​@@easymoney480doesn't matter you could always find an open source software on the internet
@dragonballjiujitsu
@dragonballjiujitsu 5 ай бұрын
@@easymoney480 Such as? As far as I know the only "pro" features are a few different desktop layouts and a handful of software anyone can download in 3 minutes.
@viveksreedharan88
@viveksreedharan88 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely! That's a very valid point..Mint is fully free.
@dragonballjiujitsu
@dragonballjiujitsu 5 ай бұрын
@@viveksreedharan88 So is Zorin unless you want to pay for the pro version. The core and lite versions are completely free.
@raderator
@raderator 3 ай бұрын
Zorin is still the only distro that looks like they used professional graphic designers, like a commercial OS. So it's not a letdown when coming from Windows, Mac or Chrome OS. I wish the major PC makers would get together and develop OEM Linux and put some money into it to make it look nice.
@doomnationalist
@doomnationalist 7 күн бұрын
I agree with you on this, a lot of Linux distros look like their UI were designed by engineers and not real designers. But Gnome looks pretty good and KDE is getting there.
@konradzuse4778
@konradzuse4778 5 ай бұрын
The integrated file search alone would lead me to Zorin.
@beanbag345
@beanbag345 5 ай бұрын
Appreciate the video, looking at both of these, used Zorin the past, a few years ago, nice to see an update and a recommendation
@raderator
@raderator 5 ай бұрын
Coming from Windows or Mac, most Linux distros look old and frumpy. Zorin got me to switch by being the first distro that looked like a commercial OS.
@konradzuse4778
@konradzuse4778 4 ай бұрын
This is really funny, because: coming from Linux, Windows and (especially) Mac look old and frumpy.. (seriously)
@p0358
@p0358 4 ай бұрын
@@konradzuse4778 Windows 10 looks old and frumpy, but I can't say the same about Windows 11 and later Mac OS's. If anything, it's KDE that starts to look dated, followed by other DEs besides Gnome that looks very nice.
@illegalquantity
@illegalquantity 4 ай бұрын
@@konradzuse4778 Linux looks old or kindergarten styled. Windows looks like Android with windows and normal icons. MacOS looks cutting edge.
@konradzuse4778
@konradzuse4778 4 ай бұрын
Sorry, but none of the important Desktops looks more antiquated than MacOS. That's the price MacOS has to pay for its large number of regular users. @@illegalquantity
@rockyraab8290
@rockyraab8290 5 ай бұрын
For people who have never even heard of Linux, I recommend: For diehard Win 7 users, try Zorin. For those sick of Win 10, try Mint. I have just the opposite opinion of these two desktops - which is the first impression a new user gets. Zorin looks simpler, plainer, more basic. Mint looks more advanced. True newbies will be comfortable with either, based on their long-learned Windows exposure, but first impressions count. I'd bet that the vast bulk of computer users do very little more than access the internet with maybe some basic "office" work on the side. For them, it matters very little what OS is running when all they do is boot up and open a browser.
@ShadowPriestBear
@ShadowPriestBear 4 ай бұрын
for w10 = Zorin Core for w7 = Zorin Light
@kuhluhOG
@kuhluhOG 4 ай бұрын
ok, and what do you recommend for newbies to Desktop usage meaning no exposure to Windows, macOS or a Linux distribution (just to a phone)
@ShadowPriestBear
@ShadowPriestBear 4 ай бұрын
@@kuhluhOG Zorin lite no doubt.
@brennenraines51
@brennenraines51 4 ай бұрын
they say, they are good for beginners but getting a copy of Mint without being scared off by the huge warning to verify SHA is a trick, the instructions on how to verify on windows look scary and most people would stop right there, i was. I ended up going with Zorin for my first because they didnt have any mirrors and it looked like the only copy of the iso was on Zorin's website. Its a good operating system, i learned alot about the basics and then Linux didnt seem so scary anymore. I have yet to try mint, i installed it today.
@taidee
@taidee 5 ай бұрын
Zorin is nice, I've ran it in VMs for quite a while, thanks for the review.
@binaryboyo9674
@binaryboyo9674 5 ай бұрын
Excellent review as always. It's bit like the old Holden vs Ford debate although they are now both defunct. The thing that impresses me is that there are options and Not just 'one size fits all' especially good for new new users. So I'll be trying Zorin alongside Pop and the Mint/s on my systems and then gravitate to the most suitable one. Always look forward to your vids so can't wait for the next one. Have a warm/hot silly season. 🎄🏄‍♂ 👍
@BNLReactions
@BNLReactions 5 ай бұрын
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🚀 *Introduction to Zorin OS 17 and Linux Mint 21.3* - Introduction to choosing a Linux distribution for new users. - Mention of Zorin OS and Linux Mint as popular choices for beginners. - Overview of the video's goal to provide thoughts on Zorin OS 17 and compare it with Linux Mint. 01:38 🖥️ *Installation Process and Development Lifecycle* - Both Zorin OS 17 and Linux Mint 21.3 use the same ubiquity installer. - Mention of their common base on Ubuntu 20.04 with distinctions in development timelines. - Discussion on Zorin OS 17 having service pack updates for kernel and driver compatibility. 03:09 🌐 *First Impressions: Desktop Environment* - Zorin OS 17 noted for a polished, modern, and spaced-out interface. - Linux Mint 21.3 desktop described as standard with more granular details. - Comparison of UI elements, menu, system tray, and overall aesthetics. 07:04 ⚙️ *Performance Insights* - Remarkable performance of Zorin OS 17 with RAM usage under 1 GB at cold boot. - Linux Mint 21.3 also praised for responsiveness with a focus on Spartan functionality. - Mention of Zorin's optimizations for a smoother and fluid user experience. 10:18 🎮 *Gaming Performance Comparison* - Brief comparison of gaming performance, acknowledging Zorin OS having a slight advantage. - Recognition that neither distribution is explicitly built for gaming. - Emphasis on Zorin OS delivering a slightly better gaming experience in superficial testing. 11:42 🛍️ *App Selection and Installation* - Zorin OS praised for a polished GNOME Software Center with support for Flatpak, Snap, and Deb packages. - Mention of Zorin's seamless integration of Windows app support. - Acknowledgment of Linux Mint's functional but somewhat aged software manager with more customization. 14:39 📱 *Integration with Hardware and Smartphones* - Both Zorin OS and Linux Mint discussed for using similar backend tools for hardware integration. - Recognition of Zorin Connect for smartphone synchronization out of the box. - Acknowledgment that Linux Mint can achieve similar functionality but requires separate installations. 16:03 🛠️ *Quality of Life Improvements and Longevity* - Discussion on Zorin OS having quality of life updates and service pack updates. - Concerns raised about Zorin OS being based on an older Ubuntu release and potential hardware compatibility issues. - Acknowledgment of Linux Mint following closely behind Ubuntu for hardware compatibility. 17:56 ✨ *Conclusion and Recommendation* - Zorin OS recommended for new users due to its curated and polished experience. - Personal preference for Linux Mint highlighted for users seeking more configuration and customization. - Overall acknowledgment that both Zorin OS 17 and Linux Mint 21.3 offer positive experiences for Linux users. Made with HARPA AI
@user-gp9pc1bp1x
@user-gp9pc1bp1x 3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@thehighwayman78
@thehighwayman78 3 ай бұрын
Very nice content, thank you. I will try to get Zorin running on my old iMac from 2009
@geoffreyrenemoiens3089
@geoffreyrenemoiens3089 5 ай бұрын
Good job on the comparison 👋
@bobbyfried7478
@bobbyfried7478 5 ай бұрын
I don't normally watch Linux comparison vids...BUT i broke my own rule and watched yours. hope your having a wonderful holidays. keep up the good content. i may try zorin for a few months..see how i like it. looks interesting. i run LMDE 6 and i love it...using it since 2 on one device or another.
@tomasbarek2852
@tomasbarek2852 5 ай бұрын
I personally use Fedora Workstation KDE spin and I switched from Mint (which I still use on other computers) and If I were to recommend an OS, I would recommend Mint. It has pretty much everything you need preinstalled, the codecs, the LibreOffice suite, great multimedia players, backups and huge Debian repository - wide software selection and I personally still prefer APT (or miss?) over DNF. However I must admit that after watching this video and seeing Zorin in action, it is really another awesome OS. I absolutely agree with what was said in the video - Cinnamon in Mint allows more customization, while Zorin is more polished and minimalistic - yet it does not lose much in personalization and customization. I personally prefer some more customization options here and there, that is why actually use KDE on Fedora now. And if something goes the wrong way with Fedora or Red Hat, I am returning to Mint or LMDE for sure. Anyways, thank you for your time and great review!
@towel9245
@towel9245 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the overview! I didn't know that it can run with just 1GB of RAM, that's impressive. Hardware compatibility per the older LTS is somewhat of a concern, but I don't have anything that new, and the overall package looks great. So long as "it works on my machine" 😅, I'll be happy.
@williamhughes1067
@williamhughes1067 5 ай бұрын
I'm relatively new to Linux and have tried both Zorin OS Pro and Linux Mint. I gravitate toward Zorin OS because of the "fit and finish" benefits you describe. Mint just feels more primitive to me when I compare it to Zorin OS, although I understand that's not really the case under the hood. I would like to add that my favorite distribution, however, is Fedora, but I consider Zorin OS a close second.
@WVWVW1
@WVWVW1 5 ай бұрын
I've heard good things about Fedora? What does it allow you to do? I want the opporunity to have a wide range of file directory and UI uh applications.
@williamhughes1067
@williamhughes1067 5 ай бұрын
Fedora is more cutting-edge than Zorin OS. However, it is not so "bleeding-edge" that you need to be a Linus tyro to use it. That is probably why it is Linus Torvald's personal choice above all other distros. I have to agree that it is probably your best bet.
@WVWVW1
@WVWVW1 5 ай бұрын
Ah ok. What do you think of Solus? Any specific distro best for gaming and basic office work? I was originally going to use Mint but Solus seems interesting. Does Zorin have any I guess bumpyness? I might wait untill I get a functional CPU for my desktop and use a cut down windows 10 or 11 on my laptop. @@williamhughes1067
@perfectlyroundcircle
@perfectlyroundcircle 5 ай бұрын
I am just very happy Linux has come such a long way. Both distros look great, and there are fewer reasons to use Windows.
@SgtThiel
@SgtThiel 5 ай бұрын
I love mint, it is super intuitive and user friendly, but I am tired of the windows xp vibes and title bars in general. it needs to get on with the times and start looking good. I am currently trying Zorin OS and am happy so far, nice looking, responsive ...
@blitzstrk0
@blitzstrk0 5 ай бұрын
Flat glossy ui isn't "good" imo
@CTSFanSam
@CTSFanSam 5 ай бұрын
UI is just like art. I am just fine with Mint. It agrees with my eye. Title bar? I don't really care, I am using the stuff in the window (client area).
@ericb8150
@ericb8150 5 ай бұрын
I am fairly new to Linux and exploring distros. Zorin was so hyped - i tried it and liked it. I was hesitant, but finally got around to Linux Mint, and I absolutely LOVE it! My other favorite , when I want the bells and whistles , is Kubuntu. I came to Linux to get away from Windows for better, more customizable features, control and stability - that i do not get from Windows. I give Zorin 17 credit 4 improving speed of performance over 16. But I'll be waiting on Linux Mint's new release in a few months.
@ShadowPriestBear
@ShadowPriestBear 5 ай бұрын
I feel Zorin runs perfectly and the UI is perfect.
@SgtThiel
@SgtThiel 3 ай бұрын
@@paxalotin I'm that case they have a KDE image
@jwd116
@jwd116 26 күн бұрын
Hi, I loved the clear explanations. But, I want to ask which is better for an i5 5th gen 4gb RAM laptop? Thanks.
@bojanalex5927
@bojanalex5927 5 ай бұрын
Great review
@powerpopjoey
@powerpopjoey 3 ай бұрын
Outstanding review. I'm a new Linux user and I went with Zorin. Great user experience. Everything works exactly as i hoped it would.
@brads2041
@brads2041 Ай бұрын
Excellent review
@MrOrtmeier
@MrOrtmeier 5 ай бұрын
I'm on LMDE 6 and cold boot runs at a little over 900mb. Not super light but better than Ubuntu which was using 1.6GB cold. Zorin have done a good job with this release and I think people coming from a Mac would be better suited to Zorin. Whereas Windows users might find Mint more familiar.
@ChaiBronz
@ChaiBronz 5 ай бұрын
Just checked and same for me. LMDE6 at 900mb on bootup. This includes the software update checker and gnome-terminal w/ Htop running.
@pfitz4881
@pfitz4881 2 ай бұрын
@@ChaiBronz Yep, same for me.
@gordangrgic7532
@gordangrgic7532 5 ай бұрын
I have been using linux mint for daily driver for years, yesterday I tried Zorin OS 17, I think Zorin Os 17 is the best linux distro for 2023
@borutp
@borutp 4 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you. I am installing Zorin
@Komanturne
@Komanturne 5 ай бұрын
I consistently recommend Mint to new people; and I have been meaning to try ZorinOS, currently running Windows on my main PC (for compatibility with editing software that are harder on Linux) and Mint on my slightly older PC. Can't wait to try ZorinOS :)
@viveksreedharan88
@viveksreedharan88 5 ай бұрын
Trust me buddy! You can try Zorin. But don't try to look for all features of mint. You may find certain features missing. Linux mint has update manager which makes a lot of things easy including managing kernels. I didn't find that convenience in zorin.
@ShadowPriestBear
@ShadowPriestBear 5 ай бұрын
I feel the added value of Zorin is superior than mint.
@viveksreedharan88
@viveksreedharan88 5 ай бұрын
@@ShadowPriestBear my point here is we can't compare an apple 🍎 with orange 🍊. Both are unique.
@oskar417
@oskar417 5 ай бұрын
i have distro hopped since 2014? linux mint is the only distro that feels like like an alternative to windows and mac to me. sure other linux distros look better have more flashy features, but linux mint is well rounded like mac and windows.
@Crystawth
@Crystawth 5 ай бұрын
I'm running two Intel NUCs from 2013, one on Zorin 16.3, and the other on 17. Zorin is very usable and they make very good TV media boxes for youtube/jellyfin content.
@mhelmreich1
@mhelmreich1 2 ай бұрын
I am really happy with LMDE, which is basically the same interface, but built on Debian rather than Ubuntu.
@avidwriter2882
@avidwriter2882 3 ай бұрын
Candy coating is nice but rounded edges disappear once you are deep in and barely see your desktop or explorer anymore. I normally turn all that stuff off just to keep things moving as fast as possible.
@Tux256ND
@Tux256ND 2 ай бұрын
Not only for beginners. I'm coming from some years of Fedora to Zorin OS to try and i love the UI.
@marufbepary100
@marufbepary100 5 ай бұрын
I am a Fedora Workstation user and I would recommend Zorin. It is a great intro to Gnome in general so if people like the concepts of Zorin but don't like the outdate stuff, they can just use another Gnome based distro and replicate what they like.
@Maisonier
@Maisonier 4 ай бұрын
What about performance and power consumption? Is there any difference?
@tucsonsduke
@tucsonsduke 5 ай бұрын
I tend to encourage pop os for new individuals for the first impressions. It was the first os that I felt confident I could walk my parents through installing over the phone.
@mr.wonderful4307
@mr.wonderful4307 3 ай бұрын
Which OS has the most recent version of the Linux kernel ? I'm using new hardware: AMD Ryzen 9th gen Ryzen 9-6600 and discreet AMD 6650 video. Also would it benefit me to manually partition my installation of Zorin?
@skorne7682
@skorne7682 5 ай бұрын
I would usually recommend Kubuntu over these two for new users, you get all the best parts of Ubuntu I think. As much as people recommend Mint I've often had cryptic problems installing it, or getting gfx drivers working properly and they aren't supporting Wayland yet as far as I know. Zorin is pretty slick though and may be a good option for those who are impressed by pretty desktops, but I feel Plasma over Gnome is a better option for traditional Windows users (Those who started out in the Win 95 - 7 era).
@WillWise808
@WillWise808 19 күн бұрын
Hi, Is Zorin OS 17 lighter on resources than Mint? Thank you for your time.
@NFvidoJagg2
@NFvidoJagg2 5 ай бұрын
Guess ii have to go try zorin on my old netbook.
@jani3253
@jani3253 5 ай бұрын
Thank You from other side of earth.
@jefft8597
@jefft8597 5 ай бұрын
I don't know about LM but with Zorin I don't think there is anyway you can go wrong. I started with Elementary OS ans switched to Zorin 15 a long time ago. I actually bought the Pro (Ultimate) version because I was new and I wanted to see what programs were included. Pro version also offers support if needed. If you are just doing simple things like web browsing, video watching, PDF reading, e-mail, using Libre Office, then this Zorin is perfectly fine. It is super simple to install side by side with Windows or some other OS without overwriting everything on your disk, and when it starts it is in Windows 7 layout mode making everything as simple as it can be.
@k.b.tidwell
@k.b.tidwell 5 ай бұрын
Are the only things you miss from the Core version vs Pro the additional software and the tech support? Are all of the backend enhancements and efficiency settings the same between the two?
@ShadowPriestBear
@ShadowPriestBear 5 ай бұрын
I use Zorin for technical support in my job and really runs perfectly! Love it
@oscard7256
@oscard7256 3 ай бұрын
Which of both to not throw away a notebook with touch screen instead of using Chrome Os Flex?
@aerotro
@aerotro 2 ай бұрын
I'm still trying to get the cube to work no idea how after toggling the feature on?
@mikefromwa
@mikefromwa 5 ай бұрын
I don't recommend distros anymore, what I recommend are desktops. Currently I suggest people try something with Cinnamon on it as it's an easy transition from Windows. These days that usually means Linux Mint. Zorin OS certainly looks slick, though.
@owenwilsonjunior
@owenwilsonjunior 5 ай бұрын
what about LMDE? that is moving away from Ubuntu altogether and going back to Debian
@cyclepath2519
@cyclepath2519 5 ай бұрын
Recently bricked zorin, switched to mint for the snap shot feature. Probably my fault, but it’s a nice feature to have.
@whosestone
@whosestone 3 ай бұрын
Used Mint for years, great simple to use distro. Just moved to Zorin and love it much the same and will be keeping it due to the native GPU drivers.
@user-vd7pg3fd4v
@user-vd7pg3fd4v 5 ай бұрын
another great video
@r3lativ
@r3lativ Ай бұрын
Would be interesting to see a Zorin vs PopOS comparison.
@johnnyblack4261
@johnnyblack4261 5 ай бұрын
Last time I heard that zorin OS does anonymous pings to their server, I am not too sure if this is still the case?
@gregcampwriter
@gregcampwriter 5 ай бұрын
I've been using Cinnamon Mint for two and a half years now after becoming terminally frustrated with Windows 7 and 10. If I get a spare computer to play with, I might try other distros--or if I get time to work with a virtual machine--but for getting work done, I'm sticking with Mint.
@andyspark5192
@andyspark5192 5 ай бұрын
I would put MX Linux into the mix. And just for fun. Get 5-10 non-Linux users and let them test Mint, Zorin and MX. Then they should give the rating and opinion after: setting up the personal desktop environment, use some multimedia apps, check some of the personal daily important apps, do some file management (search, organize, transfer, ...)
@PerfMonk
@PerfMonk 4 ай бұрын
I'm on zorin 17 pro since end of December and I have to say that it is the best distro I have tried since I begin to use linux in 1998. It fast, stable and even if I'm more of a KDE user the gnome interface can be tuned with the same look or better than what I liked on KDE. I will keep Zorin on my laptop and it will stay there for a long time. Everything works and it's very stable, fast and good looking. No this distro is not only for linux beginner. Cudo to Zorin team for that nice distro. :=)
@rialbbe
@rialbbe 5 ай бұрын
Try to compare Big Linux. My grade 5 & 6 find Big Linux is very easy compared to Linux Mint & KDE neon. I haven’t ask yet their answer in Zorin is yet. I hope you can make a comparison between this and Big Linux in the future aside from my comparison as your fellow KZfaqr.
@AdventureSMBW
@AdventureSMBW 3 ай бұрын
Ive given Zorin to all my home users. Never had an issue. Ive given Mint to all my business customers. Never had an issue.
@GigAero
@GigAero Ай бұрын
Why not Zorin for business users too?
@np22973
@np22973 4 ай бұрын
Zorin 16 xfce cold boot takes ~550m RAM. Zorin default software installed and configured are sufficient and no extra Zorin configuration tools are better managed and straightforward to use Zorin +1
@AndreaBorman
@AndreaBorman 5 ай бұрын
I didn't know that Zorin OS used Gnome Extensions to get their start menu and other Windows like features. I thought it was a customised version of Gnome the same as the old versions of Linux Mint Gnome used to be. Mint is better as when I used Zorin some years ago it did have some bugs. And if you want to use Gnome you can do that by installing the Ubuntu desktop on Linux Mint as I have done, Then installing Dash to Panel and Arc Menu in Gnome Extensions. Which gives you the Mint or Windows style taskbar and start menu.There is also a Zorin menu extension for Gnome but it does not work on the current versions of Ubuntu or Mint. So the Arc Menu is better and it works best with Dash To Panel Extension. Which moves the taskbar to either the top or bottom of the screen. Depending on your choice.
@nodak81
@nodak81 5 ай бұрын
I really like Zorin but the software manager is slow as hell, often hangs at 99% install and often just won't search at all. Not sure what I could be doing wrong. I have several older laptops (varying ages and brands) and they all have this problem, so I don't think it's a hardware-specific issue. I also dislike having to install and configure Samba on Zorin, in order to access my router's NAS drive. Mint has Samba installed but I still have to enable the older protocol for it to work.
@saltyabcdef3202
@saltyabcdef3202 5 ай бұрын
Also find Zorin to be a heavy OS as it comes with a lot of software pre-installed but most of it functions well nonetheless.
@Archangel96
@Archangel96 3 күн бұрын
i use Zorin i tried using mint but for some reason wine just did not work at all, i dont know what i did wrong just installed it and the program didnt work, so i switched to zorin 17 and it worked perfectly right out the box
@Manthan7_7
@Manthan7_7 5 ай бұрын
As new user myself,i would go with zorinOS 100%
@anonymous_opinions1924
@anonymous_opinions1924 5 ай бұрын
I'd recommend giving Mint a try
@home-of-the-brave
@home-of-the-brave 5 ай бұрын
Hey thx for the great Review, I also tryed mint ant Zoron. For Me is Zorin the best Distro, because it‘s most polished and modern looking 😊 Where did you get the wallpaper from your Mint OS ? It looks very clean and calm 😊 can you share it?
@r1ftzy
@r1ftzy 5 ай бұрын
Zorin is literally Ubuntu with a gnome extension called dash to panel.
@deepchange2973
@deepchange2973 5 ай бұрын
I love the simplicity and availability availability of Linux mint
@theadoresmith2777
@theadoresmith2777 Ай бұрын
I've been using Ubuntu since 2014 ... I like zorin 17 because really, its the Ubuntu that Canonical should have done. I'm using it as a daily driver and does all that Ubuntu 23.10 does. At 6gb, I thought Ubuntu must be joking so I shall keep using Zorin 17.
@williambaldwin9346
@williambaldwin9346 5 ай бұрын
Hey man, how are you? Did you finish your college degree wasn't it in Computer Science?
@nahuelasc1
@nahuelasc1 2 ай бұрын
great video. zorin is most modern
@colinreece3452
@colinreece3452 6 күн бұрын
I recently istalled Linux Mint on to my laptop, I was pleased with it and did my preferences and up dated stuff. So I decided to build a PC from parts I had and I added a 1tb SSD and installed Linux Mint on that too, but then I had a problem, no internet, I had a wifi dongle insterted but no joy, then searching online lots more had the same issue. I go on KZfaq only to find lots of videos of how to resolve it but none worked, I found an old wifi dongle and for some reason that worked so I got Internet and was able to upgrade etc. Then again for some reason my PC didn't recognise the SSD, I edited the bios only to make things worse, after spending nearly all day I gave up, so now I'm looking for a different distro rather than Mint, shame really coz I did like it.
@dominus6695
@dominus6695 13 күн бұрын
I think the elefant in the room is that no linux distro has a mouse scroll wheel speed selector out of the box. Most distros also don't let you configure different mice individually (remapping buttons can be one with a workaround tho), which is necessary in case you're ambidextrous using 2 mice. I guess in the end linux will always remain a forced gateway to coding, tweaking and so...
@rinyamashita
@rinyamashita 2 күн бұрын
I am thinking of switching to Linux again; however, I only had experience with Ubuntu until around 2018, then my old Laptop died. Therefore, I wonder which would you recommend to me. Zorin or mint? I don't have any knowledge of programming or how to use the terminal… I need something that is effortless to use. My hardware is an HP Pavilion Laptop from 2018, you can still switch out the battery easily!! OMG it's about to be 6 Years! Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz 2.81 GHz RAM: 8,00 GB I know it's old. I just don't want it to get slow in operating Linux. My old Laptop came with a Linux operating system when I bought it.
@k.b.tidwell
@k.b.tidwell 5 ай бұрын
Would switching to the Liquorix kernel eliminate issues with new hardware compatibility in Zorin? Or really, just installing a newer stock kernel?
@ogrejd
@ogrejd 5 ай бұрын
@15:30 - What does the smartphone connectivity actually entail? Is it more than just file transfers (which is all Mint's Warpinator does)?
@k.b.tidwell
@k.b.tidwell 5 ай бұрын
The KDE Connect app does the Warpinator stuff but it also lets you completely mirror your phone on the computer so that you can actually run phone apps on your display, text, etc. all of your phone stuff. It's very comprehensive, and really probably much more than anyone needs since your phone is probably right there with you anyway. It is nice to do your texting with your keyboard, but it's not convenient enough for me to enjoy the constant notification interruptions lol. (You can turn all that off, but then...what's the point?)
@operius2385
@operius2385 5 ай бұрын
I love your reviews. But, please review how GTK *and* QT look and feel out of the box when reviewing a distro. Because nobody that seriously uses a Linux distro is using only GTK or only QT apps.
@bengtl.5017
@bengtl.5017 5 ай бұрын
Used zorin this fall, until it completely stopped update or install new software. Never happened me on any system before. Something with zorin turns me off as if they care more the surface then to have a sound system. And I hate that cold looking boring mountain picture.
@penguin2137
@penguin2137 5 ай бұрын
as for Mint, you get Qt settings so you can use whatever GTK theme you have installed on your system to theme Qt apps. as for Zorin - no clue
@operius2385
@operius2385 5 ай бұрын
@@penguin2137 It's Linux. You can make it whatever you want. These reviews are about the out of the box experience. A lot of times QT apps look like crap on a GTK based desktop. Not allways, but often. And I just don't understand how a distro can ignore how GTK or QT apps looks ootb. They are *the most* used toolkits on Linux distros for over 2 decades. But just to put it out there. Zorin did a great job. Both toolkits look great. Even when using flatpaks they look good. QT apps both native and flatpak use the gtk filepicker too. Offcourse QT apps will never look 100% like GTK apps on a GTK based desktop, and vica versa. But they made it look as good as it can get. Props to Zorin!
@penguin2137
@penguin2137 5 ай бұрын
@@operius2385 out of the box Qt apps in Mint should use the Mint default theme
@dragonballjiujitsu
@dragonballjiujitsu 5 ай бұрын
I've been a huge Linux Mint fan for years but I have to say I'm loving Zorin OS. I'd have to give it the edge at this point. I think it offers a better out of the box experience and the app installation is a bit better experience. Huge win for Zorin on the UI side. The only thing Mint could do to beat Zorin at this point is offer a KDE version again. 99% of people do NOT need support for the latest hardware and do NOT need the latest version of Gnome. I honestly do not know a single person ever who has installed Zorin OS or Mint on a thread ripper running a 4090. Most people will be installing either of the distros on 5+ year old hardware. At this point you cannot go wrong with either distro.
@viveksreedharan88
@viveksreedharan88 5 ай бұрын
Am just trying to understand. You can install KDE desktop environment in mint right? What difference it's gonna make if Mint offers a KDE desktop along with cinnamon, mate & xfce? Cinnamon is very decent enough. This is just my view.
@ninjameep8616
@ninjameep8616 5 ай бұрын
I have a Ryzen 7 and a 3070ti and i Actually had some problems on alot of distros because they specifically didnt support 'new' hardware (despite it being years old still) wasn't very fun to try and install so many distros then finding out it's literally a hardware issue(kinda)
@dragonballjiujitsu
@dragonballjiujitsu 5 ай бұрын
@@ninjameep8616 Genuine question: What exactly are you gonna do on that system? I mean, gaming on Linux sucks and video editing is a joke unless you have one of the few distros you can trick into running resolve. Seems to me that anything over a mid-range core i7 and 16GB of RAM is just a waste.
@dragonballjiujitsu
@dragonballjiujitsu 27 күн бұрын
@@viveksreedharan88 You can, but it really doesn't turn out right. There are many small glitches and problems. It would be nice to have a smooth KDE experience out of the box with Mint. In my mind it would be about the perfect distro at that point.
@je_suis_amor
@je_suis_amor 5 ай бұрын
i started using linux ( mint ) in my relatively new ryzen 5 powered laptop in the start of this year ...and tried Ubuntu, pop os Debian etc. and came back to mint ..but lack of Wayland support and some other bugs forced to switch and finally settled down in Debian 12 and I'm very happy and i have very few problems.i mostly use Flatpak and i side load some .deb and app images also..till now i didn't have major hiccups and i learned how to tackle basic problems..if u ask me mint is great for beginners but if u want to do something more than basic computing activities it gives me some headaches and some time lot of software packages are not compatible or gives problems. And before 2 months I deleted my Windows 11 and i stopped dual booting and I'm daily driving Debian 12 now. And also I'm doing some programming/designing and switching to Linux gave me a lot of happiness. I'm switching back to mint since they announced Wayland support in the future..I will try when roll it on updates
@dorianxonic
@dorianxonic 5 ай бұрын
Welcome to the old reliable Debian stable Linux path.
@anonymous_opinions1924
@anonymous_opinions1924 5 ай бұрын
Nice choice imo. Debian is based.
@k.b.tidwell
@k.b.tidwell 5 ай бұрын
Really, the idea here is what's best for the average new user. You're in the above-average tech category with Linux. I'm high enough on the tech tree to understand everything you're talking about, and experienced enough to understand it's not my cup of tea. I'm divergent enough into "other purposes" to be gravitating to more of a less-tweaking-and-modifying-to-get-the-system-the-way-I-want-it-is-better mode. You talk about Wayland to newbies and they'll be expecting Willie and the boys to ride with them to Luckenbach, Texas.
@Fluffywings84
@Fluffywings84 5 ай бұрын
TL;DR: Zorin OS is the way to go for a non linux user hands down. I started with Linux mint on some old hardware. The bios was 32 bit but the hardware was 64 bit. I could install Linux mint but could not boot. Turns out LM is only compatible with 64bit UEFIs. So now I need to modify GRUB using the boot CD. Well not if LM doesn't recognize your wifi card. Just update the wifi drivers manually? Drivers will not persist on a boot CD. I spent way to long trying to build my my own distro or modify GRUB. I did finally get it all working by buying a USB wifi that had compatibility with Linux Mint which allowed me to make changes to GRUB. After getting it all working which took weeks, I ran across a KZfaq video on Zorin vs Linux Mint. I decided to try Zorin on another machine (exact same hardware) and it booted up on the first try and WiFi worked out of the box. Not to mention the UI looked polished when Linux Mint felt dated/under construction. Linux Mint is great, for Linux users. Zorin OS is great for non-Linux users.
@AliYar-Khan
@AliYar-Khan 5 ай бұрын
how about LMDE ?
@DistroUser
@DistroUser 5 ай бұрын
When comparing these two Distros and considering newer hardware compatibility, your best choice might be Mint Cinnamon EDGE. I just bought a new Mini PC with newer hardware such as Intel N100 and the WiFi would only work when I updated to the newest kernel. I wonder how Zorin would do in this scenario?
@khoanguyen0001
@khoanguyen0001 5 ай бұрын
Zorin 16.0 is based on Ubuntu 20.04. However, Zorin 16.2 is based on Ubuntu 22.04. I think Zorin 17 will get the same treatment.
@Loathsome_Lynx
@Loathsome_Lynx 5 ай бұрын
Isn't that super outdated now?
@jimacklaw
@jimacklaw 5 ай бұрын
16.2 still 20.04 base, but does utilise 22.04 kernel (or bits of!). 17 is 22.04 base totally. But the gnome is older than Ubuntu 22.04, but is heavily adapted functionally.... Be safe.
@SkyFly19853
@SkyFly19853 5 ай бұрын
As long as Zorin lets me install games from GOG offline... Then so be it.
@NoahHeadglitch
@NoahHeadglitch 3 ай бұрын
I feel like mint is more like the windows 7 we know and love where zorin is more like windows 10 with a more updated UI look and feel. Obviously they both are independent of windows but that's just what comes to mind if you're trying to do a comparison or transition.
@johanb.7869
@johanb.7869 5 ай бұрын
How is the support if you run into a problem? Is it better on Zorin Core or on Linux Mint? Off topic: Do the software stores provide Firmware updates? Discovery on KDE does.
@istvantorok4819
@istvantorok4819 5 ай бұрын
Mint does, with Fwupd, but only on UEFI systems. Zorin I don't know, haven't tried
@Lapidario_
@Lapidario_ Ай бұрын
Zorin is by far the best distro that matches my laptop's hardware.
@OldieBugger
@OldieBugger 5 ай бұрын
I have used Linux Mint from late 2016 and I have tried a lot of different distros on my spare laptop. I still haven't found any that would beat Mint. Zorin... well that's one I haven't tried yet. Maybe I will, one day, out of curiosity. EDIT: The only distro I've planned to switch to is LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition). But, lets watch the video till the end.
@t.v.9696
@t.v.9696 5 ай бұрын
Hi! Linux Mint Debian Edition looks and feels almost identical to Ubuntu based releases. I had used LMDE for quite some time, but after noticing that some of my USB Wi-Fi adapters "stopped working", I switched back. Debian stability comes with a price. Hardware compatibility is my top priority. P. S. I really miss KDE versions of Linux Mint. Those looked way better and worked faster than infamous Aero. However I'm glad the LM dev team focused on Cinnamon 👍.
@k.b.tidwell
@k.b.tidwell 5 ай бұрын
I started with Mint back in 2014, and I've hopped over forty distros, and now I'm back on Mint. I ran Zorin 16 a short while a couple years ago, and I'm going to give this one a go again. I did run LMDE5 and 6 for a little bit, but moving to a twin version of Mint that's less put-together hasn't made sense to me yet. I'll try it again when LMDE comes out of the box as completely setup with minimal tweaking like Mint already is. The faint chance that Ubuntu will go under isn't enough of a reason to switch and put up with even more distractions from my work than I have now, lol, and the morality of whatever Canonical is doing right now this week isn't even worth wasting time thinking about. If Canonical's doings is the high moral hill on which people chose to die, then those people need to reevaluate their priorities.
@OldieBugger
@OldieBugger 5 ай бұрын
@@t.v.9696 I wouldn't notice that. I distrust all wireless crap so I have all the cables ready. I just want to have my network connection to be snappy, not like wifi that can have soggy delays and stuff. I have tried to use that and I didn't like what I saw.
@n7ekg
@n7ekg 5 ай бұрын
If you switch Zorin over to use xfce, it’s even faster :)
@chrisquaglio5265
@chrisquaglio5265 18 күн бұрын
I believe there is a Zorin lite with xfce desktop
@InsideVK
@InsideVK 5 ай бұрын
From what I understand, Linux Mint comes with an old kernel and can be updated, in Zorin could the kernel also be updated? Or does it break something in the system?
@penguin2137
@penguin2137 5 ай бұрын
Mint to try first and get acquainted with Linux, MX as the second distro when you already get used to Linux and realise you didn't like Mint
@williamruy9350
@williamruy9350 4 ай бұрын
Thanks + Gracias x 1,000,000
@charlesmangum2100
@charlesmangum2100 2 күн бұрын
Will use Zorin. Customization is not important yo me.
@thechicotube96
@thechicotube96 5 ай бұрын
Do you recommend any alternative to itunes (any free iphone manager) like syncios or 3utools on windows?
@that_guy1211
@that_guy1211 4 ай бұрын
I think i'll wait until Zorin 18 or 19 before i switch from windows
@Tucanazo69
@Tucanazo69 5 ай бұрын
Zorin is beautiful but there's just something great about that old fashioned look of Mint that I Iike more
@that_guy1211
@that_guy1211 4 ай бұрын
I've been seeing a lot about this "Desktop Cube", and i can't help but feel it's a bit useless? As a windows user, i just use one workspace, i don't get why microsoft makes it so you can have more, and i really can't understand why people use it
@AhmedFaisal13
@AhmedFaisal13 5 ай бұрын
this day in history I celebrate 21 years of that very same question 😃
@dermond
@dermond 5 ай бұрын
I didn't knew Mint and Zorin are 21 year old wow
@AhmedFaisal13
@AhmedFaisal13 5 ай бұрын
@@dermond LOL for sure they aren't, even their base. ubuntu, is not that old 😄the question I meant is "what is best for new users". I used Redhat 9 (not RHEL, just Redhat) and Mandrake Linux (long dead, inherited by Mandrava then Open Mandrava).😊
@alap1983
@alap1983 4 ай бұрын
If Windows OS users want to jump onto Linux, they simply cannot go wrong with Zorin OS 17. It has a VERY familiar layout. Windows OS users will feel right at home (mostly). The UI and UX have been intentionally kept VERY similar or nearly identical to Windows 10. Mint OS seems to be geared towards Linux Users who want a reliable Desktop or Laptop and are fairly familiar with Linux as an Operating System. Zorin OS 17 has come a LONG WAY in terms of multiple Optimizations, Tweaks, and Smoothness. It is highly polished but not restrictive. It is somewhat curated but does not limit users. Windows OS users looking to shift can EASILY and QUICKLY get onboard the Linu train with Zoring OS 17.
@jpmyers6950
@jpmyers6950 5 ай бұрын
Be aware that the price for the premium version has gone up, from $39 to $49. Also if you're running Zorin OS 16 premium, you can't upgrade to 17 yet, it will be weeks before you can do that.
@MrJohnSteeves
@MrJohnSteeves 5 ай бұрын
I noticed that they used to charge sales tax on top of the $39 whereas now it's included in the new price, so it's not much of an increase
@scottfread2130
@scottfread2130 3 ай бұрын
I find mint to be my go to, I think Zorin 17 is nice but mint just works better for me.
@Blueeeeeee
@Blueeeeeee 5 ай бұрын
Very good and balanced review, although it should be taken into account how this reccomendation will change when Mint 22 releases next year, while Zorin will be stauck on 22.04.
@_Epictetus_
@_Epictetus_ 2 ай бұрын
Escape from Tarkov is the only thing keeping me on windows 10. This is the most aggravating thing.
@MetalMugger
@MetalMugger 4 ай бұрын
Zorin all the way! Better interface, better features like Zorin connect, and best of all they support the Snap store because they are not snobs who must think for you, the main reason why I switched from Windows. Last but not least the jelly window animation feature is pure eye candy 👁️👁️
@matthewmoore757
@matthewmoore757 5 ай бұрын
My stripped down KDE desktop boots up at 400 mb of ram. :) Between these two however, i still prefer mint. But personally i run Debian wherever i can.
@dragonballjiujitsu
@dragonballjiujitsu 5 ай бұрын
Would be great to see LMDE KDE version again.
@MyTestAccount-md6tb
@MyTestAccount-md6tb 26 күн бұрын
LINUX does RUN ON older hw THOUGH! GOOD LUCK TRYING TO GET ANY other OS to RUN! It's USUALLY TIME to UPGRADE! $$$
@sirrodneyffing1
@sirrodneyffing1 4 ай бұрын
Thanks, it got more useful at the end. Every Linux review spends 50% + of the time banging on about trivial tweaks to the interface. The real problem is the ability to run commercial applications, the availability, how to find and install/uninstall them, where they get installed, drivers, running windows applications..this stuff is REALLY hard to understand to new users...and that 'Terminal,' stuff is a massive turn off.
@Avalanche-Ice1950
@Avalanche-Ice1950 22 күн бұрын
yes yes yes! I am not happily looking at the switch to Linux because I will NOT go to Win11. Period, end of discussion! I know I WILL get used to it and do fine (actually studied Unix briefly at Boeing back... 30 years ago?!) Used to know DOS... But... dreading the set-up. I WISH there were a "package" -- (and with Win 10 being murdered soon, one or more of you techies ought to think about it!) one could BUY / or an EXPERT one could hire -- that would set-up dual boot and one's choice of Mint or Zorin (or whatever) and SET IT UP like Windows! Plus set-up the programs and systems needed for the customer to keep their computer life going while they learn the details of Linux. I'm running a manufacturing biz; I don't have hours and days to devote to learning Linux WHILE running the company on Win 10 (and everthing else I do on a computer)... I can't FIND a local Linux expert to come and SET UP my new computer so I can just begin USING it, while still running my biz (concurrently, till I'm sure the Linux one is steady; the biz HAS to keep working!) and get the two programs for which there IS no Linux version to run under an emulator or whatever. (When last I looked into a switch to Linus (before surrendering to win 10 {sigh}, WINE was ... not very functional for Account Edge nor WordPerfect. (Yeah, my family's secret shame! STILL a WordPerf user. Absolutely NO desire to learn Word; and can and occasionally do/can use LibreOffice... but WordPerf is just BETTER!) I'm SURE I will adjust generally well to either Mint or Zorin. It's the set-up and tweak time to make it work without screwing up my life I dread. ANY advice is welcome!
@Laltun
@Laltun 5 ай бұрын
Zorin is best for newcomers.
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