*NEW V3.00* Roland TR8S & TR6S (V2) with CR78 and Chromatic 808

NEW V3.00 Roland TR8S & TR6S (V2) with CR78 and Chromatic 808

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Starsky Carr

Күн бұрын

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@synthnerd4539 10 ай бұрын

Ah yes - Fill 1, Fill 2, and everyone's favourite, Fill Collins.

@robertsutton7949 10 ай бұрын

Fill Oakey, surely.

@synthnerd4539 10 ай бұрын

@@robertsutton7949 Great band but Fill is a drummer's name.

@murphyjulian7393 10 ай бұрын

Did Fill Valve ever get famous?

@andyjones760 10 ай бұрын

Been hoping they'd do the CR-78 for years! Awesome.

@robertocaba5915 10 ай бұрын

Same 😅

@Noise-Conductor 8 ай бұрын

Now that you got it, what did you do with it?

@therealmattmann 11 ай бұрын

I love the CR-78 sound! I'm very excited and can't wait to update my firmware!! Woo hoo!!

@SynthgodXXX 10 ай бұрын

Sounds really cool! Such vintage charm! Great video!

@sonarfreq 10 ай бұрын

Awww brilliant stuff... been looking for CR78 samples recently so this is spot on! 🙏👍

@robertreid8241 11 ай бұрын

Gotta love the CR78, the start of "same old scene" always makes jump for the volume knob!

@caesarsheadache 10 ай бұрын

What a lovely update 🤗 Great demo as always Cheers 👌🔥🤘

@electronaut7429 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for another video and the information! 🙂

@robertocaba5915 10 ай бұрын

Brilliant! I always missed the c78 lovely snare on my tr6

@tb-cg6vd 10 ай бұрын

Impressed Roland are continuing with the updates - it's a brilliant machine and deserves a long shelf-life. Gonna have fun copying Blondie!!!

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

Have you got the outfits and wig ready :)

10 ай бұрын

wow, that's awesome little update

@trevormalcolm4328 10 ай бұрын

I love my TR-8s, all my favourite drum machines in one box. Now with the missing piece CR-78! My life is complete!!!

@ncapone87 10 ай бұрын

Now I wish I still had a TR8-S :( I love the CR-78. It's really cool they included the patterns.

@fredrikw1447 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for this Roland!

@Charlie-Sheen 11 ай бұрын

Another great video thanks. Nice update for the TR8s. It’s a shame they don’t do the same for the original TR8 and the 707 kit!

@andrewstanworth529 10 ай бұрын

Thanks to this video, I've realised what the dust bros used in the fight club soundtrack! (CR78) one of the fills.. wonderful! It's been bugging me for years. Cheers!

@peterkadarmusic9728 10 ай бұрын

This is cool. The 78 is my fave vintage drum machine along with the Linn Drum. I've not considered a Roland drum machine in a long time but if anything could change that, it would be this.

@skeletonmodel 10 ай бұрын

I got one and loaded it up with the samples from mars sampled kits. You have a lot to choose from

@ktreier 14 күн бұрын

The CR-78 is the defining sound of John Foxx’s Metamatic album.

@rumplebunny 10 ай бұрын

What an awesome update. The CR-78 is my favorite vintage drum machine. I actually own one but you know, it's kinda good to know this is available in case my CR-78 kicks the bucket heh. Also, really nice touch of including the original patterns though I suppose you're missing out on the ability to mash down a couple buttons at a time to get interesting pattern mashups (unless I missed something here). Not a huge deal really though, it's just a fun tactile thing on the 78.

@TheDjpredator 10 ай бұрын

So nice Roland keeps updating the firmware, love that coarse tune on the 808 bass, they should add that to all the sounds (if possible) Great video again, love my TR8S 🤘🥳

@coolo73 10 ай бұрын

TR8skreamer…that’s a 3rd-party desktop app that’s been out for years that translates incoming midi notes to Tr-8S/6S course tune values. Makes every voice on the 8S chromatic and playable on a midi keyboard, but you have route through your computer to the hardware in order to use it.

@TheDjpredator 10 ай бұрын

@coolo73 Thanks, thats nice, will check it, still would be nice to have it in the TRXs series so you can do it stand alone 😎

@patricklaureys9238 10 ай бұрын

Kuruki with Crocodile Tears. ❤ Love this update!

@RaquelFoster 10 ай бұрын

This is awesome. I have a TR-6S and I was just looking at reverse-engineering the kit file format to convert some TR-8S kits (to split them into 2 kits so I don't lose 5 of the instruments) JUST because I wanted a good CR-78 kit. Now I don't need that Cyclone TT-78!

@robert_locke 8 ай бұрын

I also have the TR-6S and would like to do something similar to what you are saying. Did you find a way to do that?

@thedeepblueskys 10 ай бұрын

Moon Safari front to back is a great album, and I just randomly heard Tainted Love last night.

@YotamPiano 10 ай бұрын

Nice detailed, thorough and clean video like always Starsky , seems like the TR8S is truly a band in a box now ! btw, I you were already notified that "Clave" is pronounced "Kla-Veh". Don't forget that "Beguine" is pronounced "Beh-Gin" (..or like Begin, so yeah - the song's name is pronounced Begin the Begin). Cheers mate !

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

Haha cheers… I looked up clave as I wasn’t sure I was pronouncing it correctly as klav - eh … just felt weird. and got Claives .. I’m never trusting the inter set again 😂😀 better than ‘clap’ which is what I assumed it was before I heard it!

@chicken_flavoured_bacon3230 10 ай бұрын

oh it comes with the original cr-78 rhythms.. all you're missing's that guys bling!! ;D

@manysimilarshapes 10 ай бұрын

Looking forward to getting a CR78 Roland Cloud plugin soon (hopefully)

@Vim-Wolf 10 ай бұрын

Ooh, yet again you've flagged up an upgrade I wasn't aware of. Thanks muchly, I'll install this when I get home.

@Zeal808 10 ай бұрын

Roland forever

@Kkidzz 10 ай бұрын

Love my CR78. Had it midi’d a couple of years ago…. tones are now velocity sensitive.

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

Show off 😂😂

@Zeal808 10 ай бұрын

Siiick

@andrewvann2578 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for another excellent video! I believe the CR-78 was the first *microprocessor controlled* drum machine (hence computer rhythm - CR). I have one and it's awesome. I saw Phil Collins playing it on stage during the Duke tour in 1980 and wanted one ever after but it took me thirty years! One of the really cool things is that the Guiro and Tambourine rhythms are synced to the tempo (fading them in and out is what Phil used to do during Duchess) - I also have an R8 and that doesn't work with the CR78 samples on there of course. I have faked this in Beatmaker with timestretching. Does the TR8S ACB implementation do this?

@skummelkatt 10 ай бұрын

EKO Computerhythm was the first programmable drum machine back in 1972. But the CR-78 was of course a lot more accessible and popular so it’s no wonder people tend to believe it was the first programmable drum machine.

@tonyjones6256 10 ай бұрын

Excellent news! Collins, if course, was an early user with Genesis on Duke, playing one on stage. IIRC In The Air was a Linn…

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

🤦‍♂️ and I double checked that one! You can’t trust anything anymore 😂😂

@tonyjones6256 10 ай бұрын

@@StarskyCarr though I've found people also claiming it was the 78, so what do I know! Thanks for the timely video

@rufusssewell 10 ай бұрын

@@StarskyCarr Nah, In The Air is CR-78.

@peterkadarmusic9728 10 ай бұрын

@@rufusssewell Yeah it's a 78 for sure.

@GolabKitsForTR-8s 7 ай бұрын

Cool thx.

@philipgilligan_art 5 ай бұрын

Gonna grab one of these next month…… still wondering 6s or 8s but less menu diving on the 8, wont be travelling with it BUT not much space on desk!!!!! Currently only got a tr08

@extra-servings 10 ай бұрын

Just a note - I had to reboot a few times after updating & doing factory reset - it was showing "?" instead of the CR78 Kick. Also you'll need to update the TR Editor if you use it.

@Janomix 10 ай бұрын

Awesome! no show TR6S? Anyway. Really the ACB technology are the most accurate recreation of these legendary drum machines. I test beside the Cloud versions, but the machine has a fantastic sound. Hope te CR78 in the cloud too. Thank you!

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

No, I've not got one unfortunately.. but thought I'd let the TR6S folks know its there and what it does.

@NormanStansfield1 7 ай бұрын

John Foxx used the CR 78 on his amazing solo albums with songs like "Underpass" and many others.

@jacobbaxter123 10 ай бұрын

😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫 beats the free sample kit i loaded onto my tr-8s last night, now we just need all the non-Roland kits in ACB 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

haha yeah a Linn Drum would be cool. Can't quite see it happening though!

@drsamurai009 10 ай бұрын

Something I've always wondered about when it comes to these modern groove box/drum machine units as compared to the originals. I have an Autovari 64, and a Roland TR-77. Both of these (very) old analog machines had a great trick up their sleeves in that you could press multiple physical buttons (typically two) and get some compound/combined rhythms out of them like mix a Latin samba button with a rock 2 button at the same time to get some cool interplay. On these modern TR machines can you select two or more presets at the same time like the original analog units?

@orbitfold 10 ай бұрын

Fingers crossed for mc707 update

@waddilove10 10 ай бұрын

Thank you amazing video as per usual ..having a few problems with mine seem to have all the instruments and tr8s saying version 3.0 but have no kit .. on 085 I have last step demo instead of the CR-78 and no patterns for CR-78 if anyone can help be much appreciated .. thanks in advance

@dionleeuwenburg1264 10 ай бұрын

Hey @waddilove. I had exactly the same problem. If anyone has the answer re: how to remedy this please share.

@mattchang3266 10 ай бұрын

Best part, it’s a free ACB model. I was expecting paying $100 like the 7x7 expansion on the TR8.

@cornishwavesmusic 10 ай бұрын

Great vid dude, wondered if it can be updated without the card

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

I don’t think so - I think you need to put the bin on the SD.

@kevinbaker1873 10 ай бұрын

i upgraded over usb with no card @@StarskyCarr

@cornishwavesmusic 10 ай бұрын

Cheers buddy@@StarskyCarr

@pauldablue 10 ай бұрын

@StarskyCarr - Yeah the internet is full of misinformation.

@HamHavoc 7 ай бұрын

When are they going to do global outputs. The fact that they change whenever you change kits is insane

@endoflevelboss 10 ай бұрын

A rhumba dumba.. a rhumba dumba.. cha cha cha. 🎉🥳

@bigdebbie6265 10 ай бұрын

Updated mine. Have the individual CR78 sounds scattered. But can't find the Kit or the CR78 preset rhythms. My guess is because I have my projects saved there. Do I perform a back up and then do a factory reset? In order to get the CR 78 pattern presets and the Kit. Has any one done this before? Is it confusing? Any help much appreciate it. Thank you.

@technodrone313 10 ай бұрын

hope they put a tunable 808 on the sh-4d

@vibratehigh89 10 ай бұрын

after I've updated to 3.0 why is it that my kit 85 is not the same as yours? my kit 85 says last step demo... not c7-78, I do have the cr-78 sounds if I look through inst, but not any kit

@miltza 10 ай бұрын

I just did the update.. got the CR-78 sounds, but didnt get the cr-78 kit? did i miss somthing?

@stevephillips6322 10 ай бұрын

Excellent update, thank you for previewing it. Can i please ask, where did you get the TR-8S CR-78 pattern chart you show at 01:11? Thank you.

@thedeepblueskys 10 ай бұрын

I just paused and screen shot it

@stevephillips6322 10 ай бұрын

@@thedeepblueskys - Indeed, I have done the same. I just wondered whether Starsky Carr had made the document himself based on a best guess of the patterns, or whether this was any formal notification from Roland. Thanks.

@thedeepblueskys 10 ай бұрын

@@stevephillips6322 I with ya on that. With other people having install issues I’m gonna wait a bit to see if they update it or something. Did you install it yet?

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

I think people who have had issues haven't done the factory reset (the final stage).. .so backup then install).

@thedeepblueskys 10 ай бұрын

@@StarskyCarr that sounds about right. I was thinking if that was a missed step in the process. I’ll give it a try later this evening.

@emmettkemet-dt5ko 10 ай бұрын

Lol Starsky sounds like yer merry teddy boy uncle down the local "ha haa a lil samba..a lil cha-cha"😂 Whats is name from Hi de Hi😂 Another great vid cheers

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

Haha Ted Bovis or something like that.

@MaxZorin8 10 ай бұрын

Boutique CR-78 & Boutique JP-4, please...

@paulmint1775 10 ай бұрын

👍👽

@guntheriscariot3064 10 ай бұрын

just a little pedantic info, the EKO computerhythm was the first programmable drum machine...

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

Well I did say I ‘thought it was’ 😂👍

@guntheriscariot3064 10 ай бұрын

@@StarskyCarr ahahah indeed! But yes, the first one from the "big players"...

@telogic1 10 ай бұрын

TR-8 update?

@dankeplace 11 ай бұрын

My TR8 was a gr8 little machine, just that it was limited with those specific sounds, something that I think the market is a little too saturated with. Mind you, who doesn't like free things with firmware updates? TR8S is a nice machine, just too expensive when compared to other alternatives, no love loss though, I'm happy to have moved on but still can appreciate when others use these kits.

@qwer4621 10 ай бұрын

did you make these original preset paterns on your own or did they come with the update?

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

They come with the update.

@Rockhistoria 10 ай бұрын

How do you find these presets, disco rhumba etc?

@FatalFriction 10 ай бұрын

Hey Carr! Do you recon they might bring these new features to the TR-6S?

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

They are 😀 the download’s on the Roland site.

@didierambact3978 10 ай бұрын

Do you know if Suicide / Martin Rev used the CR78 for their early stuffs?

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

no idea, but it's a distinct possibility.

@bosh_music 10 ай бұрын

I just updated my tr6s to the 2.0 firmware but when I go to select a kit the CR78 is nowhere to be found. I can only access the CR78 in instruments. Does anyone have advice?

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

Did you do the factory reset? ... instructions say to back everything up, perform the update then factory reset.

@bosh_music 10 ай бұрын

@@StarskyCarr ah I see. It worked. Thanks!

@TransistorBrothersMusic 10 ай бұрын

Did you just add the 'TR8S_UP.bin' file to your SD card at root level and then update from that? Updated but missing the CR-78?

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

Factory reset is the answer I think. The instructions say to back everything up, perform the update then factory reset.

@TransistorBrothersMusic 10 ай бұрын

Boom! Starsky to the rescue. Thank you.@@StarskyCarr

@tranquilityweaver6870 10 ай бұрын

hi where do you get the CR78 from? updated TR8s to 3.0 however can't find it anywhere would be grateful if anyone can point me in the right direction. Thanks

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

Backup then factory reset

@tranquilityweaver6870 10 ай бұрын

that's great thanks, will give that a go.@@StarskyCarr

@tsunamitattoo2362 10 ай бұрын

I did the update but I cannot find the kit on my tr8-s. It states version 3.0. Did I miss a step?

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

backup then factory reset

@GNeuman 10 ай бұрын

Ultravox, Gary Numan, Roxy Music.....

@brettlemmings 10 ай бұрын

does TR8s play the guiro like CR78 when tempo is slowed down?

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

Yes it does :)

@brettlemmings 10 ай бұрын

great!

@GrgomirGaric 10 ай бұрын

3.0 is still not available on Roland web site? Or am I the onlyone not seeing it?

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

There’s a link in the description.

@DJEuroshopper 10 ай бұрын

When i updated mine today i still says at kit 085: LAST STEP DEMO. Can anyone help me? At the video i see the name CR78..

@kikigalache2753 10 ай бұрын

I have same problem.

@DJEuroshopper 10 ай бұрын

@@kikigalache2753 i figured it out. After doing the update you should do a factory reset. Fixed it for me

@kikigalache2753 10 ай бұрын

Fixed, thanks friend !!!!👌

@vibratehigh89 10 ай бұрын

figured it out, you have to do factory reset then you'll have the kit. problem is you'll also lose any kits you made yourself

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

make sure you backup first so you can load all your old stuff again.

@martinwest1009 10 ай бұрын

Ah man! When you said “Fill 1… Fill 2…” I was screaming for you to say “Fill Collins” and play In The Air Tonight. Oh well 😂

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

Aaah… now there’s a missed opportunity 😂

@andrewcarnegie589 8 ай бұрын

Luvya vids, mate/...and YO ! it's CLAH-VAY or -VAYS, ( plural, as it takes 2 to produce the characteristic Latin sound ) not CLAVES, as in CAVES or CLOVES, for instance. So now you can tell me where to stick my CLAVE', OK ?

@StarskyCarr 8 ай бұрын

Haha.. gotcha

@VincentPresley 7 ай бұрын

Have they added a song mode yet? Yes, I know the annoying “work around” “trick” where you waste a bunch of the memory slots and sit there copying patterns in the order you want them. I want a proper song mode where I can tell the TR8S to play beat 01 b 4 times, 15e 4 times, etc. A feature that’s been around since the 80s yet was left off of this machine for some reason.

@kevinbaker1873 10 ай бұрын

HI sorry to trouble you iv just updated to firmwear v3 but when i select kit 85 i dont get cr78 i get Last step demo ??? can you help me out and tell me what im doing wrong please cheers Kev

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

No idea sorry.

@thedeepblueskys 10 ай бұрын

Did your machine confirm the firmware was updated, and does the version number match the new one? Just curious. I have yet to do mine.

@TransistorBrothersMusic 10 ай бұрын

Having the same issue. Updated to V3.0 only TR-8S but no CR-78?

@TransistorBrothersMusic 10 ай бұрын

Mine updated, confirmed and is displaying v3.00...but no CR-78. Just logged a support ticket with Roland UK. @@thedeepblueskys

@thedeepblueskys 10 ай бұрын

@@TransistorBrothersMusic bummer man, I hope they get back to you soon so that you can get that fixed.

@replikantofficial 10 ай бұрын

I wonder if this will be available for the TR8?

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

I doubt it - I think they all shipped with everything g already on board. The 7X7 update was simply a code to unlock hidden onboard tones.

@replikantofficial 10 ай бұрын

@@StarskyCarr cheers

@kevinbaker1873 10 ай бұрын

can any body tell me why the cr78 stuff is not showing up afater a v3 firmwear update and tr editor update and roland cloud manager so i think im all up to date but NO CR78 cheers

@TransistorBrothersMusic 10 ай бұрын

Having the same issue. Updated to V3.0 only TR-8S but no CR-78?

@stanislavfretless6166 10 ай бұрын

Factory reset is the answer. Please read the update manual.

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

Thanks, a couple of people have mentioned this, and I never thought of the final step!

@hillier22 10 ай бұрын

I was having this problem and figured out what i was doing wrong. The Roland website procedure for the update lists step 4 - restoring data from SD after the factory reset. Just don't do this step and the new kit / patterns should show up. Mine is now all fixed! 🙂

@kevinbaker1873 10 ай бұрын

@@hillier22 yep after a factory reset it all works now

@andyparle5494 Ай бұрын

I cant go for that, no can do….

@chambre466 10 ай бұрын

is it available for TR6S? I can y find it

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

Yes it is... it'll be on Roland's website.

@chambre466 10 ай бұрын

thanks@@StarskyCarr

@Gainn 6 ай бұрын

Only having 8 pattern banks is a bit annoying with all the new stuff.

@isaac.anthony 10 ай бұрын

I'm disappointed, i would have rather had generic USB mode than CR78 sounds. But tunable kick is pretty sick.

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

I don't know if it's even possible to have a generic USB as a firmware update. I wouldn't hold your breath :)

@isaac.anthony 10 ай бұрын

@@StarskyCarr the MC707-101 have generic USB, so IDK? Also, an "official" VST would be really nice....

@akagerhard 10 ай бұрын

okay, that's weird. My comment disappeared. I promise it was completely harmless!

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

I’ll take a look in the ‘held for review’ naughty pile 😂

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

No, nothin there 🤷‍♂️

@akagerhard 10 ай бұрын

@@StarskyCarr okay, that's weird. So my comment had 2 parts. One was asking you what was up with the mic quality in this video - maybe you were closer to the mic than usual? The other part was me saying that I am getting into Drum Machines (or rather sampled Drum Machine Kits). I purchased the "Beat Machines" library from IKM. Unfortunately those are too many Drum Machines and thus selecting the right one for a Track takes ages. I usually am looking for RnB or Hip-Hop sounds. I then went ahead and posted a list of all the Drum Machines included in that library and kindly asked if anyone recognizes some that used to be common in RnB or Hip-Hop - since trying them out one by one makes me go insane. I'll post the list seperately this time, in case that was the reason...

@akagerhard 10 ай бұрын

This is the list: Ace Tone FR 2L Ace Tone FR6 Ace Tone FR7L Ace Tone FR8 Ace Tone Rhythm Ace FR-3 Baldwind Tempo-Matic Boss DR 110 Casio Casiotone MT-85 Casio MT-35 Casio MT-45 Casio MT-46 Casio MT-68 Casio PT-10 Casio PT-100 Casio PT-82 Casio PT-87 Companion 4 In The Floor Concert RF-Five Conn Min-O-Matic Rhythm CRB-81 Delptronics LDB 1 Drumfire DF 2000 Drumfire DF500 Electro Harmonix DRM 15 Electro Harmonix DRM-16 Electro Harmonix Space Drum ELI CR7030 Elka Wilgamat III ESP Electronically Simulated Percussion ESP Syncussion Formanta UDS Gigster Hammond Auto Vari Hillwood HR-2 Jasper Mini-Rhythm KR30 Jomox MBase 01 Jomox XBase 09 Keio Mini Pops Junior Keio Minipops 5 Keynote Auto-Rhythm MR 101 King Beat 7 King Beat Rhythm R-1000 Korg KPR 55 Korg KPR 77 Korg SR-120 Lell Clapper Lell Rototom Maestro MRK 1 Maestro MRK 2 Maestro Rhythm King MRK-1 Maestro Rhythm King MRK-2 Maxon DS200 MFB Drums 502 MFB Drums 522 Mica-sonic MPC Electronics The Clap Multivox Rhythm ACE FR6 Musicaid Clap Trap NDK Nomad Rhythm Maker 16 Normad Rhythm Maker Olson X-100 Olson X-81 PAiA Drummer Boy 7701K PAiA Programmable Drum Set 3750 Panasonic RD 9844 Panasonic RD-9844 Realistic Electronic Accompanist Regal Rhythm RE 175 Rhythm Boy 480 Roland CR 5000 Roland CR 78 Roland CR 8000 Roland TR 606 Roland TR 77 Roland TR 808 Roland TR 909 Roland TR-33 Sears Rhythm-Matic II Sears Rhythm-Matic Seeburg Rhythm Prince RP Seeburg Select-A-Rhythm Simmons SDS 8 Simmons SDSV Sound Master Rhythm 1 Sound Master SR 88 Star Instruments Synare Tama DS200 Tama TS 204 Tama TS 305 Thomas Bandmaster Model 55 Touched by Sound Clapcussion Tronix Rhythm Box RB-1 Unitra Eltra RTYM 16 Univox Micro Rhythmer 12 Univox Micro Rhythmer MR-8 Univox SR-55 Univox SR-95 Whippany Rhythm Master RM-10 Whippany Rhythm Master RM-20 Wurlitzer Sideman Wurlitzer Swingin Rhythm 5020 Yamaha MR10 Zachary Drummer Boy 10

@StarskyCarr 10 ай бұрын

@@akagerhard weird! As far as the mic is concerned I’ve been trying different things. To stop the reverb in the room being too intrusive I’m using an Adobe AI based tool but it does weird things here and there. Sometimes I need to retake some stuff but it’s nowhere near as labour intensive as setting up the room, which wasn’t working well anyway. I’m balance this is better, but there are some occasional artefacts. Still working in an ideal solution.