New vs Old Tesla Model 3! All Changes Are Giving Us Mixed Feelings

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Ryan from ‪@OutofSpecPodcast‬, Coleton from ‪@OutofSpecDetailing‬ , and Max from ‪@outofspecguide‬ test drive the Tesla Model 3 refresh in the US and compare the RWD loaner model to Ryan's existing RWD from 2023. It's a marked upgrade in some ways, but these existing owners also have some reservations.
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0:00 Welcome
2:09 Walkaround
7:12 Interior
18:05 Driving Impressions
25:20 Non-Tesla Owner Impressions
34:57 No Stalks
36:02 Suspension and Ride
39:57 Exterior View Driving Back
41:39 Minor Trunk Difference
43:05 Final Thoughts In Old Model 3
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@TheAdventureAuto 4 ай бұрын

"Ok folks, I'm now in the back and I'm still 5'7." That was funny.

@johndwyer3964 4 ай бұрын

As a 2023 model Tesla y performance. watching your video was very impressive, and as for the new model 3, I would probably would never buy one . I think the model y performance is the best as it still has the stork it's still got the body's sensors, and the interior is very spacious . my personal opinion Tesla has lost the plot cutting corners will only result in cutting customers this is my opinion only.from down under Australia. I'm very happy with my model, and what makes it better I have the sexy button control in the console if only tesla did this he would've done better on sales. And leve the storks on the car.no horn that a downner. There are no fog lights, and I believe the sound system has been changed to less quality. It seems that the Chinese are going to leave Tesla for Dead not that I would buy a Chinese car anyway it would be very tempting for a lot of people as Chinese do put a lot more gadgets in and finished quality. not that I think it will last that long. I know my car is made in Shanghai, but it is not Chinese quality.

@ronniemullis8717 4 ай бұрын

He’s young, maybe he’s still growing.

@scottbreseke716 4 ай бұрын

He should see a doctor about this. Seems like he should have grown a bit.

@TheAdventureAuto 4 ай бұрын

@@johndwyer3964 Yea my 2021 Model 3 has all of what you mentioned plus radar and passenger lumbar. I feel like since I bought mine they've been dropping features. But I do like the vehicle without stalks. Would be nice to have everything accessible from the wheel.

@KyleConner 4 ай бұрын

Now I’m curious what the Shanghai vs Fremont Model 3 Refresh differences are The car I drove was awesome!! But the team is not as impressed in this video. I’m going to book a US test drive this week and see for myself as well ⚡️

@scottbreseke716 4 ай бұрын

Last week I test drove a Highland Model 3 RWD made in Fremont and build quality was fine.

@vapormodel 4 ай бұрын

Yeah really seems odd that's my thought too like I said in my comment

@robfisher3790 4 ай бұрын

No offense, but I think your team was trying too hard figure out any differences. Way too much subjective commentary.

@mhsohel47 4 ай бұрын

Your team is just comforting their old purchase Lol😅

@robfisher3790 4 ай бұрын

@@mhsohel47 Right?! 😅

@gmoneygmoney1018 4 ай бұрын

I appreciate the honesty in this video. Refreshing compared to all the hype videos about this car that almost seem like paid advertisements. To be fair, the points of view here are basically drawing comparison to the previous model and expectations based on hype reviews already put out there that raved about the car. Perhaps if you were not comparing to the previous model and just looked at the car on its own, the vibe would be different? Anyway, great, honest video. I recently purchased a 2023 model 3 on inventory sale and the tax credit and was on the fence about actually giving up the $12K of inventory sale and federal tax credit and wait for the refresh. I thought the differences did not warrant losing out on the savings. I'm glad I did but am still looking forward to seeing what Tesla does on the next refresh.

@CrankyOldNerd 4 ай бұрын

Not into the lack of stalks, and lack of direction selector or whatever we call it. I'm sure it'll do well, but that and the off center screens are deal killers for me.

@TheFPSPower 4 ай бұрын

@@koryballs the FSD talk is just a coverup, reality is that stalks are an expensive part to manufacture and assemble, so if you save 50$ removing the stalks per car in 200k cars that's 10 million $. It's just Tesla being cheap.

@scottbreseke716 4 ай бұрын

@@koryballs Stalks seem like the type of control a cave man would think of.

@10secondsrule 4 ай бұрын

@@scottbreseke716which is other way to say they feel natural. Buttons are kind of stupid and can be downright dangerous when driving.

@10secondsrule 4 ай бұрын

@@TheFPSPowerI still don’t get why not charge this extra 50 usd. I’d pay with no hesitation. It’s all down to Elon’s humour in the end. After reading his biography I am not sure I’d like to get any of his products anymore. There something wrong with him mentally and not in a good but more like a dangerous way.

@scottbreseke716 4 ай бұрын

@@10secondsrule Reports say that aliens don't have stalks in their UFOs. 👽

@rsmithgi 4 ай бұрын

Definitely glad I purchased a Model 3 RWD at the end of 2023. Discount and tax credit combined for $10k in savings. This is not a $10k upgrade.

@w140chris 4 ай бұрын

I did the same! Would have spent 11k more on the 2024 with no rebate or inventory discount

@youtuberpov 4 ай бұрын

🤔 .. how can it be an $10k upgrade when you got a discount on yours. Just say you got a good purchase specially with the discount.

@DiamondHead2010 4 ай бұрын

@@youtuberpovI guess in the sense of comparing a 2023 vs a 2024? What you get for $30k vs what you get with $40k a few months later

@rsmithgi 4 ай бұрын

@@youtuberpov Basically saying that the new model is not worth $10k more to me than the previous model. 36,260 - 7,500 = 28,760 is what I paid vs 38,990 for the new model.

@ericbryant796 4 ай бұрын

@@rsmithgi I agree with your math and logic. Sad the new version doesn't qualify for the Fed rebate. 😡

@Protocolpimp Күн бұрын

In his defence it has no stalks, no parking sensors (only 2022 has that), smaller glovebox, 1 less charging port, no heated middle seat in the back and no fog lights. While I do think the highland looks much better, that’s a lot of features to take away in an upgrade. Essentially you get a meaner front, interior led, an extra couple speakers and ventilated seats. I’m thinking of just taking mine to a body shop and getting the highland body kit.

@bytemark6508 4 ай бұрын

About the glovebox, I've had a 2020 Model 3, and the USB drive for recording the cameras was not provided at the time, instead they allow you to buy your own and insert it in one of the slots inside the center console, under the screen. The open/close glovebox operation where also controled through the screen, but it was only protected in the valet mode. Later, with the moving of the USB key inside the glovebox, added a PIN to open, I guess to protect the videos from intruders or smthg. Probably thinking: "since we already have this protected glovebox, let's make it more of a secret space". SO in the end, there is a purpose for locking the glovebox by default, but it feels like it wasn't the original design.

@artemZinn 4 ай бұрын

Yea, but glovebox could’ve been made to open by pressing on it IF car is unlocked with non-Valet profile. Access control is great, but the button you have to bring UI for on screen is stupid :/

@American_Energy 4 ай бұрын

I just did a test drive on the new Model 3 and thought it was WAY better than my 2019 Model 3. Not sure if these guys got a bad copy or are affected by avoiding the buyer’s remorse associated with owning previous year Model 3s.

@dansloan6439 4 ай бұрын

I like how Tesla pushes the envelope on some things, but losing the stalks is a huge negative for this car, especially the turn signal. It’s just not necessary to make something that’s used constantly this cumbersome. They have had this for years on certain super cars and it has never been something people enjoyed.

@kens97sto171 4 ай бұрын

The road noise may just be tire differences also that the tires may be under that 500 mile break in time. Rear seat foot room reduction is likely due to the ventilation system in the front seats.. and is very unfortunate.. the fact the front seats felt higher... could be related to that, or maybe the seat padding is a bit thicker.. maybe the same in the back since Ryan also thought the headroom in back was reduced. Loss of the stalks is basically a deal killer for me. I drive 250+ miles a day in the city.. Not gonna retrain my brain to use stupid buttons, the shifter is also a downgrade.. you cant go from reverse to drive without coming to a complete stop... and it's a longer reach to the screen than just flicking the shift lever while the steering wheel is still returning back to center. Best option might be a older model 3 and do a strut upgrade to get a softer ride if that's what you want. I have a Bolt EV... and think the rear leg / foot and head room is better. Also much easier entry and exit.. Also normal door handles that you don't have to explain to people how they work.

@jamie.andrews 4 ай бұрын

Great comparison. One thing I would have liked to seen is the comparison in the sound quality in the radios.

@tumbleweed1976 4 ай бұрын

Rear screen and ambient lighting an added gimmick considering stalks removed.

@FaZaFurhod 4 ай бұрын

yeah I gotta admit while I love the ambient lighting and the additional screen in the back, removing the stalks makes the refresh so unappealing

@wonderboy75 4 ай бұрын

But you get lightshow and fartsounds!

@floodtheinbox 4 ай бұрын

Good job on the view, guys. Besides the cooled seats, and the rear bumper, seeing this video and your guys' impressions of the refresh, I feel validated in my purchase of a '23 M3P. One this I noticed that I don't know if you noticed was that the entire middle seat folds down rather than a small section of the middle seat like in the old M3, which would make for a center armrest that has more room for either passenger.

@fiehlsport 4 ай бұрын

They did angle the rear seat cushion more to support your thighs, but this still isn't enough for tall people. The floor is way too high in the rear of a Model 3 for it to be comfortable for most adult passengers. It's hard to feel relaxed when your knees are in your mouth! I really don't know how people say these are good rideshare cars, Model Y fixes this problem entirely. Even my 5'3" wife said the floor is too high to be comfortable in the rear of a Model 3.

@scottbreseke716 4 ай бұрын

In the United States, the average male is about 5 feet 9 inches tall.

@conrado800 4 ай бұрын

I felt the same when I did the test drive. The floor was weirdly high. My wife’s Nissan Leaf has a deeper floor and feels way more comfortable

@adamd4137 4 ай бұрын

Definitely feels more of a mid generation refresh than a new generation from this review. Was hoping for a bigger leap. In Porsche speak, it’s a Model 3.2

@corbett666 4 ай бұрын

Tesla has said this is a mid gen refresh not an all new

@777Outrigger 4 ай бұрын

A very excellent refresh if you go by other reviews.

@adamd4137 4 ай бұрын

Marques Brownless was impressed for sure. Wondering if out of spec picked up a dud@@777Outrigger

@rogerhall559 4 ай бұрын

Thanks guys. Great job!

@dlhorne42 4 ай бұрын

42:57 The dog walker trying to stay out of the video! 😂

@jeffrey3280 4 ай бұрын

Your expectation really makes a difference. With this price tag, the improvements are good enough.

@whatsay8406 4 ай бұрын

I feel as if they are cutting things out to reduce cost but selling it as an upgrade. We removed all this stuff, charge the same or more and it’s better. Glove box magnet and no center arm rest latch. That’s just cheap cost cutting. Not sure I want to buy a car that they try to cheapen up so much. Tail lights are really just a lesser version of the old, cutting down on plastic, thus cheaper. Same for bumper. Redesign appears to be to cut out fog lights and make it cheaper to produce more than style upgrade.

@bullshitbingo2259 4 ай бұрын

Correct

@ericgregori 4 ай бұрын

+ ventilated seats + interior lighting + back LCD + HW4 - stalks Same price

@wonderboy75 4 ай бұрын

Shrinkflation!

@conrado800 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, everything feels cost based, not consumer experience based

@EzDeanFassassi Ай бұрын

BINGO. Would anyone expect Elon to prioritize anything else? Also, I figure it'll take some time for the assembly quality to get up to par

@niflo88 4 ай бұрын

I've a model 3 long range from 2021. Went to try the new one last week - RWD(Shanghai or Berlin). It was not even close, the comfort and quiet cabin is like another level. I'm really surprised that your experience is so much different.

@thaDARKW0LF 2 ай бұрын

Probably different because they're comparing a 2023 to the new one. AFAIk, the 2023 has some improvements in ride quality, etc, as opposed to 2022 & previous.

@rhackenb1 4 ай бұрын

We have a 2019 and 2022 Model 3 LR. We were driving the 2022 out to the Denver area. I sat in the back seat because a local friend was giving my wife directions of where to go. In back seat I became claustrophobic because I couldn't slide my feet under the driver's seat. I'm only 5' 8" and felt boxed in. This refreshed version seems worse. Since I'm not that tall, headroom wasn't an issue. Is the Model Y better at this?

@David_Polak 4 ай бұрын

There is a lot more space for your feet in the model Y, as the front seats are on raised rails.

@ranerhodes6712 4 ай бұрын

FINALLY ! An honest review and not some overreaction like most of these Tesla fanboys.

@_Hao_Nguyen_ 4 ай бұрын

ability to move passenger seat from the back is a nice addition. I would like to do that from the main screen too. Sometimes people adjust the seat kinda blocking part of my side view, I like to adjust it back from driver seat.

@DBGE001 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for this straight forward review, pretty much confirms my impressions during my test ride with the TM3HL.

@sageDieuvids 4 ай бұрын

I love my 2021, and feel very sad/frustrated at some of the changes they've been making. No stalks on the steering wheel, no parking sensors. At some point I'll be looking for a new car and moving to a newer Tesla would be a downgrade, which is just so stupid.

@DFWsCars 4 ай бұрын

If you can, try out the stalkless design. Most people say they get used to it pretty quickly.

@harmony3138 4 ай бұрын

And no HUD either, and neither the rout guide behind the steering wheel. I find it lovely in my BMW i4 eDrive 40 And as for missing indicator stalk, it's a deal-breaker for many. Fumbling on a turned wheel at a roundabout is dangerous. It may not be so important in the US market but necessary in Europe, UK etc with a lot of roundabouts. Someone mentioned this below on Bjørn Nyland’s review and is so spot on.... Instead of always knowing where to find the blinker stalks, you now have 360 degrees of possible positions and in 180 degrees of the positions the buttons will be upside down. Also, why have icons, they are only pointing in the correct direction when the steering wheel is levelled correctly, and why is the first button at the top the right blinker? Impossible to use in heavy traffic driving through roundabouts, accidents will happen due to drivers not checking the road for other cars in blind spots or pedestrians crossing the road as the driver needs to look down and try to find where the buttons are located and which one to use. If the driver manages to actually turn on the blinkers, a large portion will signal in the wrong direction and can cause other accidents due to other drivers assuming the car is going in that direction.

@bdtang 4 ай бұрын

Our X plaid has no stalks and the turn signals takes a little getting used to but the stalkless shifter is an upgraded - 90% of the time you don’t shift when you initially get in, just drive.

@lordmoos3 4 ай бұрын

@@DFWsCars Absolutely not. Some controls should *never* be behind a screen.

@BFTVCanada 4 ай бұрын

This is why I went with a 2015 Model S P85DL. 3 seconds flat 0-60, so much volume and hatchback for camping and hauling stuff, enhanced auto pilot, working sunroof, air suspension, free supercharging for life , free connectivity, and so much more

@kazitaufiqiqbal1194 4 ай бұрын

UNBELIEVABLY informative review, thank you!

@JoeKnowTech 4 ай бұрын

I drive Bolt EUV and always admire Tesla for their Supercharger network as I live in an apartment. Thank you for honest review of model 3. I can save my money now.

@TeslaCareyP 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for your honest opinions. Now I don’t feel like I am missing out. I love my 22 boosted model 3. Thinking about trading in our rwd for a used model Y.

@johnnysokko2004 4 ай бұрын

Great review, gentlemen. Managed my expectations since I will be getting one.

@artemZinn 4 ай бұрын

The roof: I think it became more transparent which is great if it still blocks IR? I used to stare at stars in 2019 M3P, but in 2020 M3P it’s just too dark and often feels like I have a regular roof at night.

@vlad2838 4 ай бұрын

Call me a caveman, but the lack of stalks is a non-starter. That said, virtually every driver in the South never bothers signaling turns, so they won’t miss it a bit.

@Longsnowsm 4 ай бұрын

Some people visualizing world peace... I visualize a world where people use that secret "blinker" feature in their vehicles. LOL

@ericn3221 4 ай бұрын

I live in Georgia and use mine without fail, but more than half don't. There are also a ton of left lane bandits and no headlights on during rain down here, both of which drive me crazy.

@scottbreseke716 4 ай бұрын

@berthogendoorn2133 4 ай бұрын

If I recall you maybe able to id the battery specs there is a decal on one of the corners of the car situated on the side of battery that has specific info on the battery.

@GregB011 4 ай бұрын

The hankook tires make a difference. I upgrade my M3 dual motor and its significantly quieter than the original stock.

@fiehlsport 4 ай бұрын

New Michelin tires would have also been quieter than the used ones they replaced - it's hard to compare used tires to new ones. New tires with more tread = more flex, and more rubber, which dampens sound more.

@GregB011 4 ай бұрын

@@fiehlsport its possible,,, a friend has low mileage 23 with the Michelins so ill compare. i do like the hankook tires. From what i understand, the tread life is superior , time will tell

@berthogendoorn2133 4 ай бұрын

Interesting on the rear leg room, what has made the back seat reduce its leg room, are the seats cushions and seat backs thicker both front and rear causing the reduced leg room?

@garryellis3085 4 ай бұрын

Sorry but that guy has thighs the size of tree trunks.

@ericbryant796 4 ай бұрын

Ventilated seats would do it as far as reducing room for feet under the seat.

@matthewprather7386 4 ай бұрын

The doors are different - with a latch in the bottom edge now? Maybe the door skins are the same between the gens?

@jimmieyoung4865 4 ай бұрын

Does anyone know why Tesla hasn't incorporated active noise cancellation to fix interior noise? Seem like a natural for Tesla, unless active noise cancellation just doesn't work.

@otm646 4 ай бұрын

I believe the S and X have it now. It's not nearly as effective as you would suspect. That is why so few cars have it and it tends to only be on the very high end German options where they are searching for every n'th of nvh reduction.

@matthewprather7386 4 ай бұрын

The added rear screen - are screens now actually cheaper than buttons? If so, that’s crazy.

@nipperdawg1865 4 ай бұрын

Lazy designers love screens

@wonderboy75 4 ай бұрын

How do you guys think the rear seat compares to the Polestar 2? I had a Model 3 and one of the reasons I chose it over the Polestar was the extra headroom in the back and the flat floor. However after sitting in the back on a longer trip the model 3 was really uncomfortable. This year I switched to a Polestar 2 anyways and I find the rear seat a lot better as long as there is only 2 adults in the rear seat. I'm 6 ft tall. The Polestar also has a better rear hatch.

@andrewt9204 4 ай бұрын

Knock on wood everything has been great with my '21 LR and I intend to keep it as long as possible. I appreciate most of the features of the highland refresh, but man I think lack of stalks is a deal breaker. And overall the Panasonic 2170's have been real solid in previous models. LG has had a checkered history in the EV game, I don't know if I'd want to be another tester.

@10secondsrule 4 ай бұрын

I wonder if the reduction in wind noise made the road noise more noticeable while in reality being at the same level as the outgoing model..?

@992GTS-DC 4 ай бұрын

Come on guys the car is 7 years old, time for an all new model not just minor changes. Soon who is going to buy one new when it looks pretty much the same as a 10 year old model

@UltramaticOrange 4 ай бұрын

I clicked into this video expecting to want the refreshed version, but the only change that I like is the refreshed front. Woof, those touch controls. I'd be looking to get a used steering wheel from a wrecked model 3 to swap in, or looking for aftermarket mods to get stalks.

@cods41 4 ай бұрын

I owned a MIC highland SR+ for a few weeks and could not justify keeping it over my late 2021 model 3 SR+. The main problem was that it was so much softer than the older 3. Yes more comfortable on the highway. But much less composed in the corners. A lot more rolling and weight transfer. The lack of stalks didnt bother me too much.

@JamesKirk1988 3 ай бұрын

I think you guys did a great job covering the differnces in the new Model 3 vs the old. I've had a 2021 Model 3 Performance for 3 years, I've driven multiple Teslas, and my wife recently got a 2023 Model Y. Here's my take: Pros: Less Plastic & More Carpet/Soft Touch Interior. Ventilated Seats. Slight Damper improvements. Acoustic Glass. Cons: No Stalks! Trunk Floor and Wheel Well Insulation Still Not improved, hence boominess from rear. Tighter Rear Seats. Probably Still No Passenger Lumbar.

@AllenYatesJ 4 ай бұрын

The boominess was a big problem for me in the Model Y as well. I wound up not keeping it for that reason. Sad to hear it's translated into another model.

@nathansmith6638 4 ай бұрын

Who pissed colton off before this review, sheesh 😂

@thebigdoghimself 4 ай бұрын

We have a couple year old M3 as well as a Chevy Bolt euv. I've never sat in the backseat of my M3, and in all honesty, I'm only 5'9, so I probably don't experience doors like two of your reviewers. I'm surprised that you did not mention how low the doors appears when compared to the high glass and huge roof pillar. Previously, we owned a Chevy Volt (rip), and I hated riding in it (wife's car) because I'd have to crouch my neck down to get in and out. We are waiting for the new M y so hopefully they will address things like rear seat noise by the time it is released.

@fiehlsport 4 ай бұрын

"I've never sat in the backseat of my M3" Don't

@mikefleming8675 4 ай бұрын

My 23 Model 3 RWD also came on Hancock tires.

@jrocxzs 6 күн бұрын

Just did a self demo drive and the interior feels just a bit smaller all around for some reason. I felt like I sat closer to the roof up front with the chair in its lowest setting and the same feeling in the rear seat.

@JorJorBinks123 4 ай бұрын

I have driven all Model 3 “refreshes”. the Highland feels like a pretty big step back for me because of the lack of stalks. I feel that you shouldn’t have to get used to car inputs, it should come naturally.

@miami3863 4 ай бұрын

Same complaint when people found out you have to use the screen to open the glove box, adjust hvac vents, and mirrors. After a short period of time people got used to it.

@JorJorBinks123 4 ай бұрын

@@miami3863 The glovebox, hvac, and mirrors are acceptable because you typically don’t change or interact with those settings very much. The stalks you interact with every single time you operate the car. I view it in the same realm as if they got rid of the brake pedal because the cars are only one pedal driving mode now. Just seems like a very unnecessary downgrade.

@scottbreseke716 4 ай бұрын

Imagine how it was for people to switch from horse and buggy to cars.

@TripleBlack331 4 ай бұрын

One thing I like about my model y, that I don't like about my wife's model 3 is the window sill. The y's will is lays more fast horizontally, which makes a perfect arm rest for me. Looks like the new Hyland 3 still has the downward sloping sill.

@libertykrueger1433 4 ай бұрын

Colton needs a pair of S3XY buttons either mounted on the back side of the wheel paddle switch style or on the console mapped to the left and right turn signals. Or their stocks retrofit if that ever comes out.

@Epiha 2 ай бұрын

My wife has a 2023 model 3 with 100k miles and it's awesome, but the ride and suspension of the refresh was night and day. I came here to see the trunk comparison because the opening seemed narrower on the refresh vs the 2023. Hopefully I can find a better comparison video.

@TSidez 2 ай бұрын

Agreed. This guy in the video keeps saying he doesn’t see the difference. As a non-Tesla owner who initially tested a 2023 M3 and MY and hated the ride, it’s absolutely night and day.

@TSidez 3 ай бұрын

Good review. I didn’t feel much of a difference in the rear seat experience. But I’m under 6 feet. If you have people over 6 seat sitting on the back, you probably want to go with a bigger car.

@WinstonMakesMore 4 ай бұрын

This makes me feel better about getting a 23 Model Y instead of waiting for Juniper. I get to keep my stalks and tax credit, and if I want the quietness, I can stick some dynamat in the trunk... The improvements are nice, but not a game changer

@Bravogiovanni 4 ай бұрын

I did that same thing. Couldn’t be happier. Most of the updates are already on the MY.

@ericbryant796 4 ай бұрын

@@Bravogiovanni I hope you leased as you are going to take a big bath if you bought new when the refresh Y come out.

@brentwoodtn 4 ай бұрын

@@ericbryant796 Model 3 has not dropped yet due to the Highland coming out.

@emoney508 4 ай бұрын

@@ericbryant796why would that be the case? If you’re willing to spend 5-10k more for AC seats and RGB lighting then go ahead and wait. If you want a fantastic car that’s been pretty refined compared to initial release then go with the current model Y.

@ericbryant796 4 ай бұрын

@@emoney508 Well we don't know the Juniper price yet....but if they keep it the same like the 3 and it meets the Fed rebate rules, then its a much better buy than the current model. Would it be worth 10K more? No, 5K? I'd say yes.

@logan594 4 ай бұрын

Back seats are just not comfortable in 3 and it is louder. Actually surprising how different it is in front.

@yolanda4731 4 ай бұрын

Glove box with PIN is smart though - I love that feature

@mike168168 4 ай бұрын

The lack of stalks might be a deal breaker for me.

@yolanda4731 4 ай бұрын

Honestly - I got used to it on my X really quickly. I’m just glad we have a MY to teach my daughter to drive with stalks. 😂

@FaZaFurhod 4 ай бұрын

@@yolanda4731 perhaps it is easy to get used to it but that doesn't necessarily mean that getting rid of them was a good thing

@lbtobl83 4 ай бұрын

For me it is, applies also for the S. 150k less for Tesla just from our family. With stalks, they could sell much more cars! What a silly decision this was.

@Weezedog 4 ай бұрын

Compared to a 2017/2018 M3 it's probably a big improvement, but Tesla does incremental changes all the time, so against a 2023 M3 it's not a big step up. I am much more excited to get my $7500 tax credit on my 2023 M3 (plus the $2500 I got off for inventory stock) vs no credit on the Highland. I do like the looks better of the Highland, but not worth almost $10k more to me.

@user-gs8vn3mk3b 4 ай бұрын

I honestly liked the feel of wood and Alcantara on the old one on every trim, seems like 2024 has the Alcantara only on full premium interior and cloth on dashboard reminds me of some 1980 cars the old basic still feels more premium on some regards

@Jason-ob1pu 4 ай бұрын

Kyle sure holds his arms out a lot 😂 now he's got you guys doing it 😅 😛

@TeslaFlex 4 ай бұрын

I’m going to need the EU spec headlights 😅

@prettyhatemachine101 Ай бұрын

Why is the screen so much larger in the older model 3? 40:30

@dougholmes6631 4 ай бұрын

In November 2021 I ordered a Tesla model three. Without seeing it or without sitting in it. After going to a Tesla facility and sitting in the backseat of a model three. My feet were not able to go underneath the seat, and my legs were cramped. I’m 61 and 220 pounds. After sitting in the model Y I cancel my order in place one for a Tesla model Y. My point being is there has never been any room in the backseat of a model three and there’s no way you can put your feet under the driver side seat. I think it’s been a while Colton since you sat in the backseat of your model three.

@grahamsiebring5227 4 ай бұрын

Isn’t the door open button in the same location though?

@ryankassel5691 4 ай бұрын

The shape looks less like a window switch

@ericgregori 4 ай бұрын

I took one for a demo drive. It is an amazing car. Compared to our Mazda 3 (ICE) the Tesla Model 3 has a smoother suspension, and quieter ride. The seats are very comfortable but the car is low to the ground (Like the Mazda 3). Compared to our Model Y, the cameras do appear clearer. I like the stalkless design. We have a blue Model 3 RWD on order.

@mickyd3 4 ай бұрын

It seems as if the doors are a carryover from the older model and if so, I wonder if the double-pane glass windows can be retrofitted to the older models to aid in noise reduction.

@ryansherman4556 4 ай бұрын

They are not. They are structurally different. Notice the metal plate that slides into the door sill. Makes for a tighter seal and more rigidity

@mickyd3 4 ай бұрын

@@ryansherman4556 I saw the doors were made more rigid but because of the said plate but the glass dimensions appear to be the same.

@ryansherman4556 4 ай бұрын

@@mickyd3 sorry I was talking structure not dimension. Yes they’re the same size. The highland has double pane acoustic glass every where

@mickyd3 4 ай бұрын

@@ryansherman4556 Awesome!. Thanks for the quick reply.

@yolanda4731 4 ай бұрын

The interior including center console and door latch and glove box - all just like my model X

@AerialWaviator 4 ай бұрын

My expatiation is the changes are more for production manufacturability, scalability than customer focused improvements. Look forward to seeing a 1st gen vs. 2nd gen M3 drive test over 500 miles on the same tires Compare efficiency, and charging performance.

@kylewarner2371 4 ай бұрын

Drove this one this morning! Dirty !!!!

@AndreanoCelentano Ай бұрын

I had model 3 since 2018. New one is much quieter, smoother ride, better seats. Slightly less room for feet under front seat for rear passengers. Suspension is better but also a bit less solid in turns. I am shocked how quiet this car is. And that, after test driving BMW X5 a few days ago.

@minlou4639 2 ай бұрын

Can they make the model 3 with two doors and hatchback.

@tomcockcroft9394 4 ай бұрын

I think it makes a big difference sitting in the back to the front

@darrenorange2982 4 ай бұрын

The front doors are not the same on the new Highland due to the HW4 cameras...so not the same.

@crimsondecade7420 4 ай бұрын

The thing I want to know is if you can take the rear screen from the refresh and mount it into the previous model .

@Geckogold 4 ай бұрын

Probably not, as it'll likely require wiring that isn't present in the older cars. My 2020 Model Y doesn't have a heated steering wheel, and when I asked a Tesla service advisor about it years ago, he said that they couldn't be retrofit due to not having the wiring needed from the factory. I was able to at least get Bioweapon Defense Mode installed though, which would've came in handy during those Canadian wildfires in 2023.

@crimsondecade7420 4 ай бұрын

@@Geckogold Yea I may end up getting one of the thrid party ones but still hold out hope of a retrofit since the third party connects to existing wireing with an adapter. Its for my 21' MYP but I figure they would all be interchangable if it does work.

@gregatibu7246 4 ай бұрын

After market rear screens are sold online and they are easy to install in M3 and MY previous models

@garycard1826 4 ай бұрын

Not very likely. No wiring harness.

@crimsondecade7420 4 ай бұрын

@@gregatibu7246 They just can't use the DATA from the car I would rather not have to teather my phone to maske it work

@ih2898 4 ай бұрын

Thank you. Nice to hear someone not repeat the usual, an amazing improvement etc. When the ID.4 first came, everyone was saying what a great car, a while later they were saying eeehh. Getting the new one soon, already ordered. First EV. I am sure we will love it. Sometimes I question if we should have purchased the previous model at a discount (Canadian so not impacted by the US Fed rebate). Thank you for your honest and detailed opinion.

@Boomtendo4tw 4 ай бұрын

They should have a wagon model 3

@peterjorgensen3 4 ай бұрын

Yes. Put the model Y trunk on a 3 and make it a little higher... It would be awesome.

@robinisathakur 4 ай бұрын

Considering cancelling my m3 refresh now after watching this and going with the y instead of

@TSidez 2 ай бұрын

Test drive first. I went in wanting to buy a 23 or 24 MY. Came out getting 24 M3LR. Family of four (two teens) all agreed. Coming from an older X5 (2nd car).

@kristianniss5201 4 ай бұрын

Mine was clean on pickup. The service Tesla delivers isn't uniform.

@scottbreseke716 4 ай бұрын

Maybe Tesla service KNEW they were loaning the car to a professional car detailer?

@fiehlsport 4 ай бұрын

Demo drive or actually buying the car? Every car is cleaned when it's delivered for sale unless it's outside.

@CaptRedRoach 4 ай бұрын

Ryan said the car has 5G but the screen was showing LTE, does AT&T just not have 5G in the area of testing? 11:06

@yigitgungor 4 ай бұрын

I am pretty sure there is no 5G. Many "About" screen screenshots online show an LTE antenna only.

@iMaxPatten 4 ай бұрын

It’s entirely possible the chipset and modem are 5G capable but Tesla for whatever reason (carrier negotiations, spectrum) is still only using LTE bands. Potentially some future proofing here.

@CaptRedRoach 4 ай бұрын

@@iMaxPatten 5G is definitely needed as carriers are cutting LTE spectrum for 5G technologies

@deej628 4 ай бұрын

Curious about this as well

@scottbreseke716 4 ай бұрын

5G has a limited range.

@ronedwards8239 3 ай бұрын

I just test drove the new model 3. No issues with bass in the cabin. The model Y was a different story. Rough ride and bass rumble was highly annoying.

@snomofilms 4 ай бұрын

Colton hammers this thing lol 😂

@SlavGuns 4 ай бұрын

Finished the video, quite shocked there were so many differences in interior space... I guess the new seats had to take up more space... and thus less headroom. so the winner is... Model Y. lol.

@mrmawson2438 4 ай бұрын

Collecting my new Tesla Model 3 Highland Long Range. Quality check and setup. RSymons RSEV 78.5K

@81MercTurbo 4 ай бұрын

6:00 - people have been doing that replacement for years... that was the first thing I did to my Model 3 in 2020, get rid of that T on the back and put the letters on.

@deej628 4 ай бұрын

I was thinking this too. Definitely not a new thing.

@iMaxPatten 4 ай бұрын

My mistake!

@yigitgungor 4 ай бұрын

The spelled-out logo mod is a thing for a long time now. Most people have been doing it as an homage to the original roadster, so it's not really a pre-highland people copying highland thing. In fact, the ambient lighting mods also existed for years now. Also, aftermarket rear screen options have been a thing since Model X got them. Almost feels like Tesla actually watched and listened to what people change in their car and just added them from the factory during their refresh.

@bullshitbingo2259 4 ай бұрын

Lol "Tesla actually watched and listened to what people..." got me rolling on the floor. Tesla is one of the most arrogant car manufacturer and widely disconnected from what the majority of people really want. The tech-enthusiast had to adapt to Tesla, the flaws and failures, the closed ecosystem and what not, and for them it is part of the fun. For the majority of car buyers, the mass market, Tesla has lost so much appeal over the years, especially with the latest facelifts und software "updates". They have become the boring, kinda outdated and very quirky but not necessarily (ergonomically) well thought out EVs. The new facelift Model 3 and thr Cybertruck are the pinnacle of this development.

@joshuarosen465 4 ай бұрын

This is so disappointing. I have a 2019. When i bought it i assumed that in five years the new model would be significantly improved and I'd do a tradein but instead its worse. I have parking sensors, which i rely on, and stalks. This one doesn't have either. I'm happy with the noise level in my M3, its gotten better since i replaced my tires. They are still the Michelin Primacys but the new ones have foam i don't think the originals did in 2019. I'm also happy with my handling. So noise and handling aren't reasons to trade in. Back in 2019 I had also assumed that there would be a significant range improvement by now. This one is a little better but not by so much that it would make any difference. If it was a 100 miles better that would be meaningful but 30 miles makes zero difference as to the number of Supercharger stops you make. Finally i have a suspicion that the motors are crappier on the new one. They've dropped the top speed by 20 miles an hour. Why did they do that? Something is shittier, maybe the motors, maybe its those Hankook tires. I worry that theyve cheapened the motors and they won't be as durable as the ones in my car. As things stand now I'll be keeping my old car until something major breaks or someone else comes out with a significantly better car that also has a NACS connector

@fluxxi5289 4 ай бұрын

The top speed is dropped because the tires are softened for less noise. Other channels have talked about this I think, not sure which ones specifically

@climatenomad 4 ай бұрын

the original tires had the foam (I have a 2019 LR). After they replaced both my front control arms with the latest revision late last year, the quietness and impact harshness improved *dramatically*. Also new tires are quieter than worn ones

@realmcerono 4 ай бұрын

These are some hilarious comments and I say this as a 2020 LR AWD (Freemont) owner: the new Highland (Shanghai) is so much better. Go and drive it before you blindly judge it. It is in another league really!

@jediman114 4 ай бұрын

I feel like the American made teslas are just trash compared to the ones made overseas. Bjorns videos on the latest Model Ys and the 3s he talks about this great build quality and sound proofing and then I buy a 23 Model Y and it’s a build quality nightmare and airs coming in from two out of the four windows

@TheBobbyBrown22 4 ай бұрын

I think the flatter lines in the front hood are a significant improvement over the old bulbous shaped front end. Cannot understand why people are freaking out about the stalks… I’m sure after a few days of muscle memory you’ll be used to it

@stevenschmidt 4 ай бұрын

The lack of a turning-signal stalk is too much for me. I will never buy that car. It must have a turning signal stalk

@Dunkingsonn 4 ай бұрын

What I would've done as Tesla is have more tactile buttons on the wheel that you can customize. So say you want your left turn signal on the left of your steering wheel, and right on the... well right... you can customize that. Now you're just stuck in one configuration and if it's annoying to use, it might be annoying for the entire time you use it.

@ronald4life1 4 ай бұрын

Every Penny counts to Tesla. It makes sense but it can get a bit annoying after a while.

@whatsay8406 4 ай бұрын

Like anything, the upgrades are worth it if they apply to you. Personally, most of the upgrades are gimmicky or don’t apply to me. Ex: rear screen, rare anyone rides in back. If so it’s any adult. Screen pointless. Never had cooled seats, never had issue with sweating in seat during summer, pointless. I don’t need ambient lighting. It’s cool for a minute. No turn signal stalk, that will be bad long term as people try to drive, text, film, and now push a small space on the wheel while turning.

@Skotty64081 4 ай бұрын

I like cooled seats because somehow the heated seats are always getting turned on which I don't notice until my butt is uncomfortable and the cooled seats cancel that out quickly. So yeah. I like cooled seats just so they can cancel heated seats.

@jeffreyjoseph559 4 ай бұрын

Feels like Colton went into this looking to defend his recent purchase, he should be comparing his M3p vs the upcoming refresh performance.

@pillington1338 4 ай бұрын

The range increase might be the thing I was most excited about, especially if I do a lot of highway driving. I'm not sure range was brought up in this review.

@bullshitbingo2259 4 ай бұрын

The range improvement is mostly based on new low rolling resistance tyres and only very slightly on the minimal aerodynamic improvement. So there is not much to talk about. Especially in non ideal environments, like in winter, the advantage is very underwhelming or non-existent

@JESSSSMITH 4 ай бұрын

I like an audio comparison.

@MoghulVeyron 4 ай бұрын

I’m 6 foot and I’ve sat in the back of the new highland, it’s not that bad, it’s fine. I also pushed the front seat as far back as possible to get a good test, the space was sufficient

@joeb4294 4 ай бұрын

Were your feet more cramped?

@MoghulVeyron 4 ай бұрын

@@joeb4294 not really, in a sedan style vehicle it was reasonably normal, the seat has a downward angle so it naturally brings your knees a little higher, i’m around 185lbs and I felt it was doable, although for a road trip it might be a little tougher.

@STR1XDLB 4 ай бұрын

36:00 you still dont feel like in a bmw or an audi? What audi or what bmw are we talking about cause my 3 series is clearly giving me back pain while my model 3 is like a bentley compared to it. The only confortable bmw i ve been in were 5 series and above

@ericgregori 4 ай бұрын

Is it HW4?

@ryansherman4556 4 ай бұрын

Yes it has hw4 cameras