Although my sheer excitement about the discussion topic and jiu-jitsu often get the best of me, my New Year's resolution is to let people finish talking before I begin. Better "Self-defense/efficiency" in communication I suppose we could call it, so I can "roll" into my 90s. -Rener

Pedro Sauer is a good listener

Great video, wish we could have heard more from Professor Sauer. I had the privilege of taking a two day seminar with Pedro last year, if anyone here has the opportunity to do so I suggest you do, the man is an absolute wise man and a true gentleman.

I think Pedro wanted to say something.

Pedro is such a good teacher!

I like the video and what Master Sauer said, and his concepts are gems.... I've been his blackbelt for almost 10yrs and have used this particular concept quite often. I can't stress enough the need for smart jiujitsu to be able to do it until I'm in my 80's.....

Master Pedro, teaches by listening and his presence, and when he speaks they are gems of wisdom. Ryron listen then shares his experience. Rener thinks while talking and summaries the conversation. A good trio! I like to see more of Master Pedro's gems. Love all three, but you can hear a master talk through his silence.

I train at a Pedro Sauer affiliate GGJ school and one of the first things out instructor told us is: survival first, position second and submission last. As someone who trains for self defense, I love this concept.

Rener - you are an enthusiastic person, nothing wrong with that! It's part of what made me interested in JJ. Keep doing what you do - you're a natural teacher.

That is a good talk. This is the topic that my Master Pedro Sauer has spoken of constantly. It is true Jiu-Jitsu.

last month i got silver in the de la riva cup and got to meet ricardo de la riva. i'm a physically weak white belt. i only won because of this exact concept. everyone at my gym thought i had the most boring fight. there were moments where i literally just stayed still and planned ahead while my opponents struggled and grunted. how i won my last fight: 1. he got good grips and was either going to take me down or pull guard, i decided to fall down on my own so he wouldn't get points. we landed in half guard, which is really common and expected. 2. for 1 minute i did nothing but lock down the half guard. i kind of tried a few things but he was 3 kg bigger and really strong so i just defended my elbows. no way for chokes and no leg locks for white belts, so that's easy. 3. eventually he decided to unlock my lockdown with his free leg. that meant he was sacrificing his base. so i immediately pulled full guard by rolling him a little to free my bottom leg. 4. full guard, i tried to set up arm bar or triangle, no way. super strong posture and base. so i decided to use both arms and pull on his neck, pretending i'm trying to break his posture. he posts both arms on my hips. i can't remove his arms for kimura either. super strong guy. 5. i shift my hips sideways so his posting arm slips straight down to the mat. i go for a weak ass kimura there planning for a hip bump. it totally works cuz he's grabbing strong defending the kimura. points for me. 6. i try a bunch of submissions but he can basically bench press me so i got rolled over. derp. 7. in the scramble i go for a triangle. a weak ass one which he easily defends. but it was a set up for a bridge/push. too messy to get straight mount once he falls backwards. but i scramble to side mount. points for me. 8. stay on my toes and pretend to go for arm locks but really just trying to hold him down. eventually he gets full guard on me. 5 minutes over. i win. after i explained what i was doing to my training buddies, they were like wow, we didn't even get that. it just looked boring as shit.

Rener and Ryron....this is by far the most profound video of yours that I have watched. I'm am new to jiu-jitsu coming up on a year repping Gracie Barra. I love my jiu-jitsu family and plan on doing jiu-jitsu till God willing the age of your legendary grandfather. Even in my young jiu-jitsu life this message is something that has conficted me in my training. The importance of getting to the point making positions rather than "self defense" or "self preservation" at first was good for my ego and for my competitiveness but my technique lacked. The biggest change in my game came after starting to follow your videos and philosophies and mimicking the style and mindframes that yall display. My professor definitely pushes for the immediate escape which is ok and in my first tournament 6 months into training the art, I won gold at the Texas open. But....changing my game to mirror yours and "self defense", Ive avoided injury, increased my submission execution, and strengthen my defense tremendously. Making my opponent struggle to find openings has in a way opened up a buffet of openings for me. I knew these were yalls philosophies but to hear you touch on the subject has reinforced my beliefs in the true core or essence of what your Grandfather Grandmaster Helio Gracie was teaching. Daaaaang....this is so major!! Anyway I really appreciate what yall do and hope to cross training with yall off of my bucket list one day. Oss! Weak Side For Life!!

"they had a better hand than me" loved that comment. Ryron's mindset is what i believe is my favorite way of going about learning this art.

Since when is 40 old hahhhaaa? I still felt like a machine when I was 40 and a purple belt. Going on 52 now and I still feel great and on the mat 5-6 days a week. You have to train smart. Gripping and squeezing takes a lot of energy. Chokes take a lot energy too. Train smart for longevity on the mat. Thanks Rener, Ryron and Professor Sauer.

"Do very little, and observe everything." WELL SAID.

I love how you can see them learning as they speak. Very fun, not stiff, and it's always a pleasure to learn from these guys 😀

just had my very first BJJ class. pretty crazy. so much intricate movement and technique. can't wait to go back again!

Let the MASTER speak.

I agree with you guys. When my father started teaching me boxing he said many of the same things. Wait and be patient for your opponent to make a mistake and leave a counter opportunity.

I truly miss training with Professor Sauer. I have been out of Jiu-jitsu for nearly 10 years now and I still miss it every day. I guess my resolution is to get my jits on this year.

All your advices are really, really excellent. Your way to explain what Self Defense is in all its different points. Specially focusing as a healthy, positive are real on daily practice for a long way. I'm really happy to meet you trough your videos. Blessings Gracie Family.

Poor Pedro couldn't get a word in. I love watching and listening to the brothers but there's no point in bringing in the master and not letting him speak

Let Master Pedro talk please!

Really enjoy what you are doing with these videos! So helpful for a new student like myself who started late in life.

Great message. Very inspiring. Thanks.

I am not a practitioner of BJJ but you guys are awesome, I love your videos.Hi from Swansea South Wales

This is amazing. I was literally doing this before watching this video. This concept is so true. Thank you. You have just reinforced this concept for me.

I love how humble Master Sauer is. He just listened the whole time, and never felt the need to interject. Although, under the auspices of being “Uncle Pedro”, he easily could have. That, in itself, is an incredible lesson…

I love their family pride. I really do

Happy new year, Gracie family! Break it down!!

Awesome video! Could you guys do another video and let master Pedro talk, I really want to hear what he has to say.

thanks for talking about this important lesson in jiujitsu. personally, i practice japanese jiujitsu and there's a bjj class before ours, so i get to see a fair share of their training mentality. a lot of them are indeed going for the "machine gun" method, which is sadly not really the point of jiujitsu imho (i can understand how this is the way to go if you're practicing for competitions). however, still, i think everyone would be done a huge favor if they were explained in the beginning of their first class of jiujitsu what the true meaning of jiujitsu is, as what the characters (柔術) in japanese mean. it means something along the lines of "gentle techniques" and not the "machine gun techniques" or the "overpowering techniques". whenever i am allowed to teach when my sensei is absent, i always teach people to rely on technique first and when all fails, perhaps a bit more strength and speed might solve it, but always try technique first, because there can always be someone bigger and stronger than you, or in the case of the video, younger and faster than you. strength and speed might not save you then, but technique most likely will.

Dudes geeking out HARD! Love it!

Ryron is all about the 'invisible jui-jitsu' now! Thank uncle Rickson! :) ALSO, the muscle vs bone structure is very important in rock climbing as well. Anyone who tries to muscle up a rock will likely be exhausted before they reach the peak. Use bone structure to hold yourself as it takes very little energy.

Great video ,thanks guys👍

Here, here guys. I train at a Gracie Humaitá school, and the principles ofcourse are the same. Keep up the work.

Great stuff, I'm a 52 year old blue belt and try to incorporate this philosophy into my training. I try new moves and techniques with newer students, but use more of a survival mode with the advance fighters.

One of the best videos you guys have put out. I've been traning for a little over a year now because I found the Gracie Brakdowns. One problem I see with new people to Jiu Jitsu is, the person wants to learn moves and rush into using them. That tends to put you and your partner at risk of injury. By doing what you guys just said it could allow those same people to practice and use the patience to roll safely. I myself can tend to do that eager to learn and perfect a technique. I'm going to try to take this mindset and apply it next time I roll with someone. P.S I won the Gracie Platinum Elite DVD set from GA, this christmas. Thank you and your family for being so giving. I travel so much it's hard to train at times. The DVD set will allow me to train more and to enjoy Jiu Jitsu with my family.

💯 on board with this mindset!

Great description of this mentality.

a very true video. it applies in all life.

Great video!!

Happy new year men!! God Speed!

How I self-defend myself against the maestre Renato Laranja?

I can use this for fighting games! Super good stuff!

Poor incle Pedro, he does not get the chance to talk between these 2 Gracie bros ;-) . Interesting video guys!

Prof. Sauer's technique for preserving strength reminds me a lot of efficient rock climbing, believe it or not. You're taught to climb with your bones, not your muscles. Hang with straight arms, lock in close, rest often, clinch rarely. And when that technique clicks, you can climb harder for a significantly longer period of time. Here the philosophy is the same: utilize your anatomy rather than fighting against it

"yooouuuu guuuuys!" new year old rener

I am a 49 year old 3 stripe purple belt with an ACL injury as well as 2 meniscus injuries, and I still train, and at least for right now, I have no plans of ever getting surgery, and I hope I never have to have surgery. Most of my injuries did not come from training at the gym. I come from a competition school, and I'm usually pretty careful about who my training partners are, and I try to be careful during my rolls. I'm beginning to think that there is something to what Rion is saying about longevity. As far as take downs go, take wrestling class.

I love the concept of "allow them to choose how to be submitted."

vcs estão falando de paciência. e é isso mesmo, defesa pessoal tem q ter muita paciência, e treinar jiu jitsu tem q ser pura paciência. certeza se Jó lutasse jiu jitsu ele seria o kara. hehe love your work budies

I wish my brothers name was Hedon. I don't know much about BJJ but I loved the passion in their voices. Plus, I just like saying Hedon.

The Valente Brothers philosophy!

Man I wish I had Rener's energy, because it makes anything he talks about super easy to pay attention to. He has an infinite source of energy and enthusiasm that I could only dream of matching using Adderall or cocaine.

Good information. I very much agree. but what if i hold a side mount on the streets and wait patiently and then friends of the attacker starts joining in. Doesn't it make sense to also be able to finish him or get out of a more defensive situation quickly by initiating action.

self defense = Applying Martial Art .GJJ all the way .

Prof Pedro is like ""what the hell did these guys drink....I want some "" lol so intense.

Rener pls let other people talk and finish :)

I don't personally agree with there ideas/style but still find its interesting to know how other people are training/thinking.

turned into shouting past each other while the master is quietly listening behind

I consider Marcelo Garcia the greatest competitive grappler of all time and consider him one of the true good guys of not only the grappling world but the sports world in general, but he is a good example of what these guys are warning us about. He has numerous championships and has made a good living for himself, but he openly professes and has mastered the practice of submission without position first. What I mean is going for submissions relentlessly without having control of his opponent first such as during scrambles. He obviously has been very successful with this type of approach, but how many people can keep up with the sort pace and intensity that he trains and practices with? I have a close relative that is a brown belt and has traveled to New York City to train with him on several occasions and he has told me that Marcelo has difficulty straightening out one of his elbows. Now this may have been an acute injury that he suffered some years back but it may very well be a chronic problem from his type of training. As I said before, he has been very successful and maybe he made the decision to "go for it" and subsequently make a nice life for himself and family, but I agree with these guys that a similar approach for the common person who practices jujitsu is ultimately the kiss of death for their career especially when they may be swamped with other responsibilities like a full time job and family. It goes without saying that I mean no disrespect to Garcia or his career but as a public figure who is so revered by everyone in the grappling world, it is fair game and very useful to make this point especially considering the vast amount of confusion over this specific issue in the jiu jitsu world.

Wheres Ryron's stripes? lol

tap early, tap often

But in a self defense situation on the street you might not have as much time. Would it not make sense to try and neutralize a threat as quickly as possible?

aikido... they call that "unbend-able arm" it can have useful application

in many times they expose a arm or something else BUT you can not only react you also need to act otherwise you play someone else game and you have less options to do

So funny. When I get side control and hold my teacher always warns me not to do it. This video is so different. I like it though. Seems more realistic (street oriented) than the sports mindframe

What Master Sauer Is Saying Use Pure Technique Not Powerless Power .

Look up Aikido's unbendable arm...

What happens if I am already 40 but I am interested in going to try Gracie Combatives? Is it too late?

Beautifully put, as usual. But I have this nagging question. Have any of you three had to use Jiu-Jitsu in a street fight? Either to defend someone, or because you were directly attacked? Perhaps your confidence prevents it, but all the same, I'd really love to know.

how is Ryron with no stripes?

Thanks for the video. I am going to strive to be a sniper.

What would you guys recommend for someone who wants to train but wears glasses.

Train for Jiu Jitsu Longevity....

TL;DR ?

everyone in my city is hitting every gym training for MMA so it isnt hard to get a partner that wants to make some chaos

16:26 aikido

I hoped to hear half the time wisdoms from Prof. Sauer but the two youngsters were too enthoustiastic. Maybe there is an improved follow up?

I agree the more boring the more intriguing

I did not start bjjuntill 30 but 45 I can say it keep me young feeling brought weight off that was plus. Let her it for guys so sexy gis especially future champ of FFDUFC . Omg smack talk today Alex was saying so funny the due who sticker thinks he out pace tcity omg just fight happen tcity to win so he faceoff with beat max then my super sexy coach Brian you final prove your truly tcity2.0 champ champ is here. Can wait for you to bring men championship back to gjj gu . Your sexyhandsome man and great fighter go team bbsor team tcity. #tcityvsthegreatmarch27 #ortegaforthewin #ortegabestlookingguyinbjjorcage

Hahaha Chur Bro

Why being him there and talk while he is just sitting there. 😢

Let Pedro talk ffs.

There is too much talking in this

your uncles gi is on wrong, he has right over left

These guys always act like 40 years old and over is the nail in the coffin. I can not exert as much energy over a long period of time as the younger members in my group but I am able to be just as tough and strong. Everyone over 40 is not weak and dried up

the gracie bros are so annoying--monopolized the "discussion". Let Sauer speak