New Zealand rugby pundits react to the Springbok injury crisis

New Zealand rugby pundits react to the Springbok injury crisis | The Breakdown

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@redhowell7856 10 ай бұрын

Hey there panel - I respect and I love your contributions but there's no smoke and mirrors here. It's simple really: Boks have 6 guaranteed games before a potential QF play-off. You are all highly knowledgeable pundits so you well know the risk of injuries in the 6 weeks ahead (see eg. Ntamack + V Poortvliet). Ergo: RassNaber name a fully fit in form squad and keep Pollard and Am squarely in frame as potential backline replacements under appropriate player management for if / when we lose players. The only snafoo here was Nienaber's use of the word "de-select" - clumsy and unnecessary. RassNaber are disruptors and calculated risk takers and they think ahead - Case in point: Acquiring Jean Kleyn and see how brilliant that was with Lood's unavailability. We'll be fine and we're set up for what may / could / will probably happen. Go Boks!

@bryanantolik9900 10 ай бұрын

100%, Jacque has been pretty candid and answered all the questions. No spooks here.

@struesbob7493 10 ай бұрын

Well said boet

@redhowell7856 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Swaer@@struesbob7493

@DirtyDawgSailing 10 ай бұрын

Bang on!

@jtp5144 10 ай бұрын

Not this time around pal

@michielgeldenhuys2116 10 ай бұрын

The coaching team explained that in 2011, the Springboks carried too many injured players in the, then 31 man squad. So much so, that at one stage, they only had 17 players training. They picked experienced guys and big names, but they couldn’t do anything. Not even in training to help prepare the available guys. They named these fit 33 as the squad so that they, as a group, can prepare to the best of their ability. I believe Pollard and Am will eventually be ready, and don’t think anyone is trying to keep that a secret. They also explained the 4 scrum halves, as a way to have two full teams train against each other. Again, as a way to best prepare those playing whichever next game. Only Jaden and Cobus are specialists 9’s as Faf and Grant both can play other positions. I agree that there are no mind games. Just a leadership group that understands what their players need in order to prepare to the best of their ability. Good luck to the AB’s, you guys are once again coming in Hot! We have our work cut out for us, but we’ll give it 100%! Such an exciting tournament! Let’s go Bokke

@mthunziphakathi4215 10 ай бұрын

Jaden can play fly half as well.

@redhowell7856 10 ай бұрын

Well said !

@diepadda 10 ай бұрын

Brilliant explanation 👍🏽

@gideonvanriet8906 10 ай бұрын

Well, this video aged like milk. Lol

@stevedavidson666 10 ай бұрын

I sincerely believe that Rassie will eventually go down as one of, if not the best, rugby player/coach/managers the world has ever seen. The Boks may not win the RWC but they'll be very hard to beat thanks to his - and of course Jacques - fantastic leadership. I also strongly believe that his - and South Africa's - input to the whole rugby world has already been positively immense and the game will hopefully grow, as long as the English and (sorry guys) NZ influence is reduced. For example the letting off of Farrell is disgraceful (and I support Saracens!) and Steward previously (and noting his yellow for a ridiculous 'tackle' last Saturday which many poms are trying to say was the wing trying to kick him in the head!) which has brought so much harm to the game.

@tiaancloete7301 10 ай бұрын

If the Boks can keep playing like they did last night they will indeed be hard to beat. Even France and Ireland had to dig deep last year to keep them down, a bok team in world cup final form is very dangerous.

@christosnyman6386 10 ай бұрын

Keep dismissing and disrespecting the Boks. Just like 1995 and 2019. We are ok with that. 😊

@patrickchilds2987 10 ай бұрын

But they didnt dismiss or disrespect the Boks in the content. You introduced this Bok underdog narrative yourself, no one else did . Why would you do that ?

@jonathanmyburgh4140 10 ай бұрын

its gonna take u another how many years... lol

@msihlpat717 10 ай бұрын

@@jonathanmyburgh4140Well, looking at it, 1995, 2007, 2019. We might just skip only 2023. How many titles your own country holds btw?

@frankbunce 10 ай бұрын

@@msihlpat717Boks have won 6 of their last 30 tests against NZ. Disgraceful. Only Bok fans hang on every RWC win.

@youngsimba6714 10 ай бұрын

@@jonathanmyburgh4140we wait 12 years at most all blacks 24 if I am correct right?

@kierontreas5971 10 ай бұрын

Boks living rent free in this panel's head lmao

@hermankern3939 10 ай бұрын

😂Caption of the day......

@tiaancloete7301 10 ай бұрын

Interesting to hear what you guys have to say about the 35 - 7 result last night...

@GilbertMay 10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@lovedlover2667 10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂🎉

@dutoitdeetlefs931 10 ай бұрын

If it's a mind game, it obviously works, looking at your reactions😂

@kierontreas5971 10 ай бұрын

Legit 😂

@pauljansen6650 10 ай бұрын

Lol

@mjribes 10 ай бұрын

4 scrummies and 1 flyhalf just blows my mind. But in Rassie/Nienaber we trust

@mariusmarais9750 10 ай бұрын

Do not fear, their is acctually 4 Scrummies and 4 Flyhalfs that knows both the styles Rather worrie what France is going to do now.

@joswan4719 10 ай бұрын

“We”….. you mean you.

@mjribes 10 ай бұрын

@@joswan4719 Seems I mean every South Africa except for you and your ilk.

@busisiwetshetu3036 10 ай бұрын

@@joswan4719well i also trust Rassie!

@diepadda 10 ай бұрын

There is no mind games. It’s simple - there is a return to play protocol after injury and the injured players are not available and not ready, and so are not in the main 33. They are giving other players minutes which is exactly what you want. It’s all simple and straight forward - there is no conspiracy but if someone gets injured then you can bring in a standby player.

@christoduplessis8177 10 ай бұрын

Its not games, if you understand the history of the Boks with injured players at the world cup you'd understand. Just go back to 99.

@rorysullivan4913 10 ай бұрын

Amazing how everyone likes to nail SA rugby. May just work for the Boks. Looking forward to RWC and hoping to see Aussies come good under Eddie. Bok supporter.

@timmado8441 10 ай бұрын

This show talks about all teams not just the boks

@frankbunce 10 ай бұрын

You’ll need your usual piss easy draw. Unlikely this time round.

@tiaancloete7301 10 ай бұрын

Piss easy draw you say? ask nz if Sa is a piss easy draw after last night...@@frankbunce

@frankbunce 10 ай бұрын

@@tiaancloete7301 dead rubber. NZ traditionally struggle with dead rubbers. Hong Kong Bledisloe’s, 1999 3/4th playoff vs Boks. When a game is on the line, they step up. Hence why they’ve won 25 of their last 33 tests vs SA.

@devonsolomon4153 9 ай бұрын

@@frankbunce Here’s a Stat for you about stepping up when SA make a final in a WC we win idiot we don’t choke can the same be said about NZ now go cry some more junior!

@raywne1 10 ай бұрын

AB should be worried about France in the pool stages.

@Epicsportfix 10 ай бұрын

The disrespect towards a two time world championship nation is just disrespectful

@gertvanniekerk46 10 ай бұрын

Yours Always a Brilliant program! Of all the wars we fought, The 3 Anglo Boer Wars, Germany WW 1 & WW2, Korea and Angolan, those against the All Blacks stays those for which we prepare with everything we have-Super fitness, cunning, spying, DECEPTION, Talent, Decoys, crying when we lose, Biltong and KWV Brandy-Figured which team I Support and Pray FOR????

@GoldenGoalposts 10 ай бұрын

This is all noise, Springboks depth is amazing and they'll be absolutely fine

@speak_your_truth. 10 ай бұрын

At 13? Really? Name them.

@GoldenGoalposts 10 ай бұрын

@@speak_your_truth. Damian de allande, Jesse Kriel and possible Esterhuizen and Willemse

@Karma-qt4ji 10 ай бұрын

@@GoldenGoalposts Even Moodie. That kid is determined to play in the first team!

@deanthechamp5669 10 ай бұрын

Is Bryce Lawrence going to be there?

@Ausin204 10 ай бұрын

he's like a legend

@doppies2000 10 ай бұрын

the Panel is overthinking this !

@danielf4503 10 ай бұрын

SA vs AB should be a show case for Rugby Union- a Barbarian tyoe game as agreed by both parties

@robroy8485 10 ай бұрын

They are scrum “halves” don’t forget, so South Africa 🇿🇦 needed to take 4 of them if they are actually only needing the 2😜

@Karma-qt4ji 10 ай бұрын

Dad joke for the win!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Wolf-hh4rv 10 ай бұрын

We also thought there’s a game going on. But no the squad will not be changed without injury. Crazy but true.

@renewablefuelsanalyst8263 10 ай бұрын

Its quite simple. The players in question (Pollard and Am) are looking promising with recovering from injury but its senseless to name them in the squad because something can affect their recovery process and now you have wasted 2 spots for 2 fully fit players. Its too risky. By leaving them out, they can bring them in later. Its just simple risk management! Intelligent!

@peacefulheart1431 10 ай бұрын

Mind games are part of the game & within the rules....no red card this time 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

@rivaldodebruin3774 10 ай бұрын

Uhmm, I think SA had to name their squad early because they were leaving SA and wanted to make a public announcement :)

@ansiebam2967 10 ай бұрын

Quickly look at last nights match 25 aug SA vs NZ in england. Bokke bo!!!!!!!

@taraiasiqaranivalukoli596 10 ай бұрын

Well this clip aged well 😂

@tsurumichan 10 ай бұрын

Anti-Bok brigade boiling up......

@Bushboybee 9 ай бұрын

Just love how these 2 starts playing mind games with themselves every time Rassie changes his underwear...

@imaadpeters4690 10 ай бұрын

Looking forward on hearing your "analyses" on today' "warm up" between the SB's and AB's on Twickenham. Let's hear it....Any hypothesis on going forward

@rylanhartze7914 10 ай бұрын

Aged like milk

@rashaadebrahimkoff2546 10 ай бұрын

The best are kept for last for the Springboks. It's best to keep it up the sleeve.

@LittleBigMediaCo 10 ай бұрын

Has Kirwin ever opened his mouth without putting his foot in it? Let's not forget that he led the charge for the break-up of southern hemisphere Super Rugby so hat New Zealand could align themselves with Japanese money ... and look at how that's worked out for the level of competition NZ players test themselves against on a weekly basis, the money coming in, the (poor) television reach of the southern hemisphere replacement competition minus the South African teams ... Kirwin's anti-South Africa personal agenda is costing NZ rugby big money and big rugby development potential. When are they going to put a gag on him?

@karlernstbuddenbrock371 10 ай бұрын

Let Rassie teach you JAYKAY

@pierre-3253 10 ай бұрын

I think the AB should be capable to take on the Scots aswell as the French, but, France might be a bit of a bigger challenge, or maybe I'm wrong ?

@gerainthopkins7576 10 ай бұрын

what injury crisis South Africa just hammered full all blacks

@TheRuwan87 10 ай бұрын

Pollard is the most reliable kicker

@Karma-qt4ji 10 ай бұрын

77% for the last two seasons in a Bok jersey....

@charlesvanonselen6251 10 ай бұрын

The South African Management are hedging their bets regarding player recovery. It is not a difficult concept to understand. There is no game being played here!

@denverkirsten4027 10 ай бұрын

JW and JK SA have focused on one factor we have been very poor in the past, depth, we even playing players out of position. Good luck for WC.

@khumomolefe5064 10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 hectic this is an analysis

@alec1113 10 ай бұрын

Being a jock , it's good to hear from the kiwis that they think we have a chance to get out of the pool of death . One other point ,any chance you guys will let the scots beat the all blacks in my lifetime 🙂👍

@andrewkelly7799 10 ай бұрын

That wasn't a mark at 7:20 minutes, but what was it? Nobody explained what was going on, now I'm baffled.

@Karma-qt4ji 10 ай бұрын

The ball was kicked so hard that it popped. Really!

@redpilled9595 10 ай бұрын

We have great depth, we will be fine

@JeyesFluid 10 ай бұрын

Crisis, with their depth, good one.

@avalanx 10 ай бұрын

Seems the Pacific ocean is particularly salty. Smart move by Springbok management, it is a game of strategy after all.

@benvisagie8844 10 ай бұрын

So after the ABvs Springbok game last night, the injured players are not gonna make us loose the WC, but will surely help us to win it. But no crIsis guys, sorry…..

@shaungoodman4924 10 ай бұрын

All due respect 2 Libbok,, it's IMPOSSIBLE! 2tk H.P 2a R/wc &nt play a single match

@davidjooste5788 9 ай бұрын

:If you're playing a mind games its not very good " say they with their minds firmly gamed. This is the sports show equivalent of a Steven Seagal movie.

@strijdomerwee7493 9 ай бұрын

Hindsight on all this Springbok criticism is going to be intensely humorous. Especially showing the Springboks win over Scotland already

@davidpells4298 10 ай бұрын

This team announcement was just a publicity exercise for the broadcasters Supersport ..The actual naming if the official team to come at a later date . No ..No games ..Just playing the bills .

@bongoseakhoa5092 10 ай бұрын

We'll this aged like milk 😂

@martinsimkiss2755 10 ай бұрын

Careful with your statistics. Are the total minutes you are comparing under the same rules/laws/interpretation?

@markshaw222 10 ай бұрын

JK is the biggest fool of a pundit

@davealston3881 10 ай бұрын

He is a knob of note. Thinks he’s Uber cool

@RassieErasmustheGOAT 10 ай бұрын

I thought I was the only one that noticed... Ignorance and arrogance 😂 You'll know the results when he's not on set.

@speak_your_truth. 10 ай бұрын

Waste of space. Goldie is not far behind him. AB mouthpiece 🤡

@hermankern3939 10 ай бұрын

Why the mud-slinging and foul-mouthing? Have'nt you 4 been tought any manners, poor reflection on your childhood.

@gillesboisacq4156 10 ай бұрын

Is that man wearing swimming goggles?

@washidc1 10 ай бұрын

Mind games ? Guys are we looking to much at what springboks do?

@user-gk6ft7dk4m 10 ай бұрын

35:7

@masibam7752 10 ай бұрын

Fear is real

@tebogomogotsi2458 10 ай бұрын

Let's Gooooooo Bokke!!!!

@isaaclesibakgomo1938 10 ай бұрын

This pundits talk as if South Africa is the only nation that in the world cup that has no clue what they are doing, silence is golden 🤷🏾‍♂️

@draterlarebil4506 10 ай бұрын

Pollard historically plays very well versus all-blacks.

@Karma-qt4ji 10 ай бұрын

Not entirely true. In the 101st test, it was Elton Jantjies who came on and steadied the ship for the win because Handre was terrible. Wasn't the first time either.

@stefwessels955 10 ай бұрын

Having seen the Twickenham game the past weekend. 😂Manie libbok at fly half, Canan moodie at 13 and Franco Mosterd at 5 lock did just fine in that record for the ages annihilation of the mighty all blacks. Just fine🎉

@keegz87 10 ай бұрын

I question why Am played against Argentina - it was not necessary and a risk not needed A big error by the springbok coaching staff

@mtabrahams 10 ай бұрын

Tbf he needed game time, his been a bit off kilter since he too returned from injury

@speak_your_truth. 10 ай бұрын

He needed a run out of course 😂

@helixcirdan7320 10 ай бұрын

I have the feeling that Scotland will create the big surprise by eliminating the boks or the Irish. The Scottish play fast and well, they have the weapons to qualify for the quarter-finals. This group is called the group of death, it is justified

@Rustie_za 10 ай бұрын

scots don't have it in them

@MrAhuapai 10 ай бұрын

They are a banana skin in waiting

@melishek0001 10 ай бұрын

@@Rustie_zaclairvoyant?

@christoduplessis8177 10 ай бұрын

Dude, Boks at the world cup haha really. Delete Japan and then go and look at the record again.

@Rustie_za 10 ай бұрын

@@melishek0001 No, just understand the stats. Go look at them you might learn something.

@redpilled9595 10 ай бұрын

The half backs can play wing and flyhalf

@jacquespg 9 ай бұрын

nzl laughing at the springboks, maybe they should start taking notes

@xavierresego4335 10 ай бұрын

Don't be surprised if the boks win the world cup again

@rew3363 10 ай бұрын

It is what it is

@stevedavidson666 10 ай бұрын

Oh and BTW WTF did NZ rugby get this woman from?

@ronaldokkers5472 10 ай бұрын

We are the rugby nation beat you guys 30/7 South Africa is good world cup belongs to South Africa Go Bokke Go ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@nardusvisser 10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂Typical wingers Wilson & JK. Most of their brains are located in their calf muscles.

@snrtackle 10 ай бұрын

Hows this working for you now??

@MrAhuapai 10 ай бұрын

Is it a game? yes its called rugby union

@glennmolloy3212 2 ай бұрын

2 know alls that talk shit continually. Watching SA school boy rugby over easter. The future of bok rugby looks so good.

@DirtyDawgSailing 10 ай бұрын

So contradictory... Come on boys. Love the NZ coverage normally. Read the script back once in a while

@shabbangesmoney6245 10 ай бұрын

chest pains in human form😂😂😂

@stephdegoede8316 10 ай бұрын

Hey guys. As a Springbok fan I think Erasmus and Nienaber have “overplanned” and “overplayed” this RWC prep. They didn’t back local talent like Wandile Simelane and Ruan Nel, both who are younger and more talented than Kriel. And now that Am is ‘out’, they have to play mind games??? They have seriously lost the plot here.

@stevedavidson666 10 ай бұрын

You may be a Bok supporter, but you obviously know stuffall about international rugby. Ultimately it all comes down to experience and Kriel has got it in bucketloads. In fact it would be cruel to put your two blokes into an RWC with so little of it. And really stupid.

@kaalvoet 10 ай бұрын

Really hope you wrong but your pionts are valid this team might end up not making play offd😢😢😢

@Karma-qt4ji 10 ай бұрын

4 days ago I would have agreed with you. Then yesterday happened and Kriel was exceptional. I even had to detract my previous comments about him but to be honest I am happy to be proven wrong.

@stephdegoede8316 10 ай бұрын

@@Karma-qt4ji Indeed, Jesse did prove us wrong. He has always been incredibly talented, and maybe just needed some consistency to come right. But, that does not detract from the fact the J+R did not create a contingency plan. Again, why was Libbok not started in those 4 EOYT games in 2022? Like you, I am more optimistic about the Boks now (anything less than a 25 point win over that Welsh team would have been cause for concern). But, there are still some questions that need answering. Let's see how we fare against the ABs this weekend.

@Karma-qt4ji 10 ай бұрын

@@stephdegoede8316 Well now we have Moodie at 13 and I am excited to see how that pans out. I don't think RassNaber are that bothered about winning or losing this game, I think they are trying to tweak a few things, polish some others and most importantly, give ZERO information to Scotland or Ireland.

@andrewmakin8151 10 ай бұрын

fascinating to question a motivation from one’s own point of view rather than put yourself in the mind you don’t naturally understand. in the context of our unique history, putting yourself in the mind of the other is something south africans have had to totally embody, a reality we live in. ‘oneself’ comes to mean both what you might naturally be, think and do at the same time as what ‘the other’ might be, think or do, even if these are opposites. the singular lens with which to see, understand and respond to ‘reality’ has become unviable in south africa, and we are continuously adapting to this survival necessity. contrast the certainty that these panelists seek in their analyses or the way eddie jones communicates, with the way rassnaber [nice! and another obvious example of two being one!] and springbok players explain anything, including in pre and post match interviews. or compare the game of chess with the mostly east african game of bao …

@kurupt7154 10 ай бұрын

You’re just yapping at this point

@robinstigling2827 9 ай бұрын

What injury crisis? When you have a team with the depth of the ocean,you dont cry over losing some water. Go Bokke,peaple always hate on greatness,look at Hamilton,Patriots,Floyd Mayweather😂Rocky Balboa,just to name a few. So hate,it just means we great.

@mikespencer4922 10 ай бұрын

South Fricans have a very apt expression for someone or something that spoils a situation. " Nou is daar n drol in die drinkwater"....(now there is a turd in the drinking water". John Kirwan is that "drol". He has consistantly fouled what should be a good discussion panel, namely The Breakdown, by his endless bullshit about South Africans and the Bokke.

@jeremyreid9582 10 ай бұрын

Why are we not discussing the selection of the referees, TMO’s and lawyers (!) that will officiate the WC ‘23 ??? They (specifically their inconsistent and laughable decision making) will have a far greater impact on the results than any single team or player may ever hope to have ??? 🤔

@chenjeraigurupira3430 10 ай бұрын

You should be worried about France lol

@neo71897 10 ай бұрын

What i know is never never and i repeat never trust rassie erasmus pollard and Am is 100% in the WC team just see

@chiva2507 10 ай бұрын

Qst; True or false.???

@stisti8431 10 ай бұрын

Praat baie.

@elliotkebe3168 10 ай бұрын

what about Elton Jantjies, Handre pollard all excuses are made about him not for Jantjies ,Why

@shaungoodman4924 10 ай бұрын

Bcaus elton hd sex outside of the team 😅

@robhughes645 10 ай бұрын

He's rubbish?

@shinsvantil8642 10 ай бұрын

If it IS. A mind game then it’s working on these clowns in the studio..

@hocake8242 10 ай бұрын

Not sure they’ll win without Pollard

@nj-ns4sb 10 ай бұрын

Kiwis paranoid as usual 😂

@franciscobizzaro 10 ай бұрын

Low levels of Selenium in the soil

@topteamproduction_9559 10 ай бұрын

Worry about NZ they will be beaten this world cup😂😂😂😂

@danielf4503 10 ай бұрын

I am afraid you are bs baiting - why not the simple story as it stands.What possible gain can there be in delaying?The explanation lies in transperant integrity

@mariusmarais9750 10 ай бұрын

😹😹😹

@user-lv9ts3jb6c 10 ай бұрын

South Africa have shown the world how to beat the All Blacks...they've literally choked under pressure...

@ebenbotha5462 9 ай бұрын

where oh where is the mighty all blacks

@jeremyreid9582 10 ай бұрын

Now we know why Kirwan was always placed far out on the wing … he has very little to contribute towards an intelligent conversation - especially regarding rugby.

@Inthemixmedia 10 ай бұрын

twikinhim jiff

@Armando_Aldeia 10 ай бұрын

FIRST

@ebenbotha5462 9 ай бұрын

other teams is just better

@user-su8ks9lf3c 10 ай бұрын

Some useless information for your day 🤦‍♂️

@ebenbotha5462 9 ай бұрын

just because of all your negative attention it proof your scared of the springboks and so you should and also of France and Ireland

@martinbrits653 10 ай бұрын

The presenters on your team honestly get so much egg on your face. 😂 Stop writing off and disrespecting South Africa. You wanted South Africa out of Super Rugby, and it will come back to haunt you. Your arrogance and ignorance as to the passion of SA Rugby is so not what New Zealand stands for. 😢