There are NO Universal Human Rights. British Conservatism is Rooted in History NOT Religion.

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The New Culture Forum

The New Culture Forum

Жыл бұрын

Fresh from his speech to the "NatCon" National Conservatism Conference, Dr. David Starkey returns to the New Culture Forum for a fascinating and wide-ranging discussion on various topics related to conservatism, British identity, religion, history, so-called "universal rights" and the primacy of the nation state.
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@hairzilla
@hairzilla Жыл бұрын
I have always found it interesting that the left gives their full backing to Muslims to pursue an ultra conservative agenda. No other group gets that sort of arrangement
@KopperNeoman
@KopperNeoman Жыл бұрын
It's conditional. The use for the Muslims is to kill Christians. China does not need Muslims to do that, and is therefore content to stuff them into concentration camps.
@edwinamendelssohn5129
@edwinamendelssohn5129 Жыл бұрын
Skin color
@rogerwoodhouse7945
@rogerwoodhouse7945 Жыл бұрын
Indeed but are they aware of that I wonder?
@divvy1400yam600
@divvy1400yam600 Жыл бұрын
At it's route his lam is dangerous. The left (along with us all ) MAY well experience it. A few years to go though
@carpediem3391
@carpediem3391 Жыл бұрын
I have said this for years, how the hard left let’s the hard right get away with just about murder just because of skin colour makes no sense.
@frankjackal
@frankjackal Жыл бұрын
"our girls are going to dress up just like whores in New York". 😂😂😂 Quote of the week for me 😅😅😅
@paulsmith1981
@paulsmith1981 Жыл бұрын
The explosive compound that blew Yugoslavia to pieces was its multiculturalism. And in last weeks local elections in Northern Ireland the people there did not vote for the party with the best policies but along ethnic lines. What is really mind boggling is the fact multicultural ideology does not stand up to the slightest bit of scrutiny yet it became the central policy of the government.
@stepheneurosailor1623
@stepheneurosailor1623 Жыл бұрын
It goes deeper than government policy.
@BDevine64
@BDevine64 Жыл бұрын
Slavs have historical chops on their shoulder.
@MDM1992
@MDM1992 Жыл бұрын
What better excuse to take away peoples rights than allow hundreds of thousands of terrorists in, wait for them to gather and start attacking then say "oh my, we have an internal terrorist threat, so heres some new legislstion.." legislation which makes all citizens rights null and void, allows them to assume anyone a terrorist and detain them indefinitely.. you know for things like speaking bad about the government or drawing attention to their corruption.. oh extremist terrorist lock them up.. its all part of the plan my friend. And the only way to stop it is to revolt. Tens of millions of us lining the streets to take their power from them by any means necessary. This so called "democracy" is authoritarianism with a very thin vale of democracy over its ugly face. But the masses don't see that, orwell's 1984 levels of brainwashed.
@richardenders6606
@richardenders6606 Жыл бұрын
Very well expressed and blindingly obvious to all but the deluded who do not understand that human nature cannot be changed by decree, presumably because those who are able to enforce such decrees are psychotics who by definition don't do human
@tylerdurden4289
@tylerdurden4289 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it was doomed to fail deliberately. If your goal was to create a global, and borderless , monochrome society, then destroying a culture from within would be a good contribution toward this aim.
@beesoon956
@beesoon956 Жыл бұрын
Dr. David Starkey, one of the most knowledgeable Historians of British/European History, on the planet. Superb!!!
@youtubefans510
@youtubefans510 Жыл бұрын
indeed, and yet he is depicted as a dinosaur , with views that belong in the past , out of touch with reality etc. they may even depict him as closet racist
@bigbarry8343
@bigbarry8343 Жыл бұрын
I adore him too, but he included porkies about the history of "Russia" and "Germany". Bernays would be proud.
@ALavin-en1kr
@ALavin-en1kr 18 күн бұрын
⁠@@bigbarry8343The title says it all, and it is wrong. The definition of religion is: that to which we are bound. It is based on Consciousness now referred to in philosophy as ‘the hard problem’ as it is not understood. Consciousness is not elemental not having emerged with quantum events. It has been understood in religion that Consciousness is what has been named God; present everywhere in nature and in man. It expresses at the level of what it expresses through, the human brain being the best instrument for its expression. Humans are to a human prototype, higher ages saw fourteen versions in a universal cycle, all uniquely human to the human prototype. The Brits. are nuts, always have been it is best if they are reduced to little England as they are benighted and a menace another version of Nazi Germany, if more benign, no genocide, except for the Irish famine. Finally, as religion is that to which we are bound, life should be based on that not on human history which has often been appalling. Religion, man as the microcosm of the macrocosm perspective protects us not only from the nonsense expressed in this video but also from the possibility of trans humanism (humans embedded with technology).
@ALavin-en1kr
@ALavin-en1kr 13 күн бұрын
@@bigbarry8343. Based on the title I would not support him. If Conservatism is rooted in history, what comes and goes; it is rooted in quick sand. The definition of Religion is that to which we are bound. He appears a duffer. Was he the person who decided that the soldiers in the N.I. should not be disciplined for shooting into a peaceful march. Or was it some other duffer; there are so many of them. What the elite universities turn out is pathetic; all duffers.
@borderlord
@borderlord Жыл бұрын
"You're not born Free,you're born Pissing and Shitting!" Professor Starkey's new historical epic!😂😳
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast Жыл бұрын
"Inter faeces et urinam nascimur" (we are born between the shit and the piss) -- Saint Augustine
@autumnleaves2766
@autumnleaves2766 Жыл бұрын
Excellent discussion. If only David Starkey was in charge of the teaching of history in this country. So many British people lack even a basic knowledge of their country's history.
@autumnleaves2766
@autumnleaves2766 9 ай бұрын
@@bonniebluebell5940 Great post, well said.
@bonniebluebell5940
@bonniebluebell5940 9 ай бұрын
I could have have skipped college and university back in the seventies and saved myself oodles of time and money...not to mention, a whole lot of angst. I was a voracious reader and top student all through elementary and high school. I still remember passages from one little gem of a book on the "History of Great Britain" in Grade 7 whereas ask me what I learned in sociology, anthropology, or political science and all that I can dredge up is a bunch of mumbo jumbo based upon post-modern humanism, much of it out of touch with the true essence of man in the real world. Glad that I got back on track... thanks to the Bible and others who set me straight. It is much worse nowadays. After decades of Socialism / Cultural Marxism, Canada has embraced the cult of the "woke"...."Whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad." Hats off to Enoch Powel...He predicted the future but didn't go far enough. It exceeded his wildest fears.
@d.marques4700
@d.marques4700 Жыл бұрын
Great conversation, Dr. Starkey! Yes, forced "MultiCulturalism" will NEVER be the solution! On the contrary, it will deepen division and mistrust...
@clarkramsey7280
@clarkramsey7280 Жыл бұрын
DAVID STARKEY SHOULD BE ON THE REFORM TICKET .
@Sam-gw5pl
@Sam-gw5pl Жыл бұрын
That would be interesting
@clarkramsey7280
@clarkramsey7280 Жыл бұрын
@@Sam-gw5pl JUST THINK THE MAN IS AN ABSOLUTE GENIUS .🇬🇧
@Noseypoke-mr7th
@Noseypoke-mr7th Жыл бұрын
Starkey's got more sense than to join a MARXIST/FABIAN SCHILL PARTY
@wiggawithattitude
@wiggawithattitude Жыл бұрын
Voting is pointless, democracy is a lie. We should be using these points to destroy the system, not take part in it.
@bristolfashion4421
@bristolfashion4421 Жыл бұрын
They're simply preparing to consume the ordinary worker, regardless of their origin. The primary ambition is to make as much profit as possible *at any cost* and then to paint a picture that shows the pursuit of riches as wholesome and traditonal. All poor peoole will be trampled down, used up and consumed. They don't care. They are supremeists, both greedy and deceitful and we must fight back, with careful rhetoric and firm action.
@kitcat4512
@kitcat4512 Жыл бұрын
Invasion of illegals will replace our aged for the global economy.
@BDevine64
@BDevine64 Жыл бұрын
That’s Tories for you. The majority get poorer when conservatives gave power. Nothing new.
@thomaswayneward
@thomaswayneward Жыл бұрын
When did you decide to become a communist?
@libertasdemocratiam887
@libertasdemocratiam887 Жыл бұрын
We have so much to be proud of, it's no wonder the MSM doesn't want to give Starkey time in their shiws to talk, can't have the masses being proud of little old Britannia.
@roygardiner2229
@roygardiner2229 Жыл бұрын
I have never thought of England as a republic. Interesting! As were, Dr.Starkey's thought-provoking comments regarding the American Constitution. Also interesting, his comment that it was no coincidence that "freedom of speech" should be curtailed in an era of "multiculturalism". Now THAT is food for thought! This presentation is so valuable to me: it articulates WHY I feel as I do.
@vanpallandt5799
@vanpallandt5799 Жыл бұрын
He wants as said to push God out of the equation, also deny the concept of universal rights in favour of essentially what..white Britain is special?
@TimmsMJ
@TimmsMJ Жыл бұрын
I wish I could speak as eloquently as Dr. Starkey (or even spell as well??). I have tried so many times to explain to people how England, and ultimately Britain came to be the great nation that it was, before all this woke/inclusive/PC rubbish bombed the land I love. Anything that divides - Religion, culture, morals - destroys. Know our history and you'll know we've been through it all and should have learned.
@marcbra5074
@marcbra5074 Жыл бұрын
Exactly as I feel
@user-ij1nv8be3i
@user-ij1nv8be3i 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like the French to me. Still longing for the Empire. Your former subjects freed themselves and now Britain is back to it's original borders. And you recently closed those borders, preferring isolation. Your history was always in intertwined with the history of other nations. We provided you with a King when you needed it deparately. You're welcome ! ;-))
@Lewisevans1618
@Lewisevans1618 Жыл бұрын
You really have to ask yourself, how many takeaways and deliveroo riders does one country need?
@Pwecko
@Pwecko Жыл бұрын
Don't forget all the Turkish and Kurdish barbers. There are five in my small town.
@Lewisevans1618
@Lewisevans1618 Жыл бұрын
@@Pwecko indeed. The housing situation is very depressing. Everything in England is so bloody expensive. After being an Englishman with hundreds of years of ancestry paying into the system I can no longer live in my home root city of London for work. Unless I want to pay a grand a month for a bed sit surrounded by illegals partying all night shouting at each other. It’s an absolute bloody disgrace.
@reasonablespeculation3893
@reasonablespeculation3893 Жыл бұрын
Or you could ask, how long can a tribe last as it espouses below replacement fertility. Those who, in the past were wives and mothers, have been given the freedom to live a lifestyle formerly restricted to an unmarried man.... the result: women prefer such a life. Replacement will happen, just as water flows downhill. Demographics is destiny.
@Lewisevans1618
@Lewisevans1618 Жыл бұрын
@@reasonablespeculation3893 precisely and the woke cultural Marxist feminist doctrine has created a catastrophe. Tricking women to peruse a career and not a family then discover they are dispensable and their boss never cared about them. Feminising men to not lead a family, pushing the alphabet agenda endlessly to the young. The brain drain of highly educated indigenous people abroad. If this country had healthy tradition values then it would be developing nicely. The replacements are from traditional cultures with conservative values that’s quiet alright it seems. Yet those who were here first are labels as archaic and toxic. It doesn’t make sense.
@jenniferbate9682
@jenniferbate9682 Жыл бұрын
@@Pwecko and in mine!
@Sjoldschool
@Sjoldschool Жыл бұрын
I agree… nobody should have another culture forced on them. I don’t visit certain countries because of their cultural differences to ourselves. Chalk and cheese. I’m not in favour of the same culture colonising parts of my city and forcing native peoples out. That’s what is happening because integration doesn’t work.
@BDevine64
@BDevine64 Жыл бұрын
The Conservatives cabinet has an over representation of 1st and second generation Indians, under Johnson it was a tenfold over representation. I’m guessing you don’t question that despite India having an extremely corrupt and unequal culture? Not to mention Hindutva, Hindu fascism.
@traceyculyer5811
@traceyculyer5811 Жыл бұрын
@@alanmarr3323 Did you marry one.
@traceyculyer5811
@traceyculyer5811 Жыл бұрын
@@alanmarr3323 If you are married to one that's fine with me but, do not lecture people on their prejudices and call them ignorant, when you your self are also prejudice against them. You are ignorant of the fact, that you can not accept that we do not appreciate our history and culture destroyed all for the sake of allowing other cultures to run and destroy the U.K. Some of us have studied other cultures, so do Not be so racist to white people.
@Sjoldschool
@Sjoldschool Жыл бұрын
@@traceyculyer5811 you took the words right out of my mouth…..🤣🤣. And you were 100% spot on. He admitted it too 😂🤣
@Sjoldschool
@Sjoldschool Жыл бұрын
@@alanmarr3323 one should never dip one’s quill in another cultures ink. Is she a Tai lady??🤭
@benjones1717
@benjones1717 Жыл бұрын
We are currently ruled by America and the EU which is why our government is so left even when we vote right right now.
@welshhibby
@welshhibby Жыл бұрын
David is a national treasure.
@Lewisevans1618
@Lewisevans1618 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant Man ✌️
@JackTorrance333
@JackTorrance333 Жыл бұрын
He wanted mandatory jabs for all. He hates you and your people. He’s saying anything now for damage control. Wake up !!!!
@fabiosplendido9536
@fabiosplendido9536 Жыл бұрын
I confess to being disappointed that he mentions "Game of Thrones".
@panchopuskas1
@panchopuskas1 Жыл бұрын
Really ? I find him to be just an articulate bigot.......His analysis of France after the revolution is simply glib. France is an interesting country to study but politically it was much more stable, say, than Germany or Italy......I could go on.....But that's Starkey : an entertainer's guide to modern history with everybody's prejudices satisfied, especially those pertaining to bloody foreigners.......
@mauricealexander3834
@mauricealexander3834 Жыл бұрын
Yes a Turd.
@liamrobinson2084
@liamrobinson2084 Жыл бұрын
What a brilliant conversation! Starkey is fantastic, as always, and Whittle has the amazing and rare wisdom to give him room to speak! Bravo!
@richardenders6606
@richardenders6606 Жыл бұрын
Whittle's non-confrontational style works superbly with Starkey as the result is more of a conversation and the viewer can listen to uninterrupted wisdom and wit It is always a joy to watch DS having a row with whomsoever but sometimes it is better to just have an unbroken flow, he should be appreciated while he is still with us as like an intellectual Max Miller there will never be another missus, hopefully he can have an argument with himself in the heaven he doesn't believe in o
@franksullivan1873
@franksullivan1873 Жыл бұрын
I agree.If a nation’s growth and stability is not rooted in its culture and history,it like a ship without a rudder that will find itself scuttled on the rocks of uncertainty and scattered to the winds of time.
@luciusesox1luckysox570
@luciusesox1luckysox570 Жыл бұрын
If this man could be shoe horned into a political party I believe that party would do very well today. Only problem is asking someone like him to become a politician is like asking Einstein to teach physics at a junior school.
@richardenders6606
@richardenders6606 Жыл бұрын
Difficult to estimate the long-term damaging consequences of your correct assessment, and tragic that a once respected institution like the BBC can ban someone of his calibre as a "danger to the public" while giving space to the usual third-rate elected collectivist politicians who are more harmful than the obvious lunatic fringe, at least the public can recognise them for what they are
@johndownes2509
@johndownes2509 Жыл бұрын
But today's main political parties are not interested in original thought. They have no interest in our constitution, or even the benefit to the people that good government would bring. The Labour Party is a slave to its racist and socialist ideology, and the Conservatives are interested only in retaining power for the purpose of using the patronage it gives them. And the Liberals are just crackpots. There is nobody of any intellectual heft among our politicians today, and it's been that way for at least 20 years.
@cliffhoelzer6895
@cliffhoelzer6895 Жыл бұрын
Love David Starkey!!! His intelligence and grace are on full display here!!!
@sorrysirmygunisoneba
@sorrysirmygunisoneba Жыл бұрын
The man, the legend. Dr Starkey. Absolute treasure.
@JackTorrance333
@JackTorrance333 Жыл бұрын
Did you get the jab he wanted for everyone??? He’s an evil devil.
@css7765
@css7765 Жыл бұрын
Love this man. He has taught me so much and my 11 year old hangs on his every word.
@lewislee9201
@lewislee9201 Жыл бұрын
Let's hope your eleven year old's views and interests survived till adulthood.
@css7765
@css7765 Жыл бұрын
@@lewislee9201 What makes you say that? The school and university indoctrination?
@thomaswayneward
@thomaswayneward Жыл бұрын
Too bad, he should be hanging on your every word.
@TheIntrepid7
@TheIntrepid7 Жыл бұрын
You hit it absolutely! We are too polite.
@user-ij1nv8be3i
@user-ij1nv8be3i 9 ай бұрын
You are incredibly rude ! Listen back to what English leaders publicly broadcast about Europe and Europeans. The name calling, the slander, the lies. Listen to Farage ranting in the European Parliament. Be assured : you are very very far from polite.
@RB-hx7rd
@RB-hx7rd Жыл бұрын
A true patriot.
@chazwyman8951
@chazwyman8951 Жыл бұрын
A true racist.
@normansidey5258
@normansidey5258 Жыл бұрын
Starkey, although I do not always agree with his point of view is a man to be listened to, however those that hate debate and challenges to their own narrow minded ideologies are terrified of their weak narratives being exposed by him for what they are, therefore the only way to defeat him is to take sound bites out of context and use mis-interpreted statements to blacken his character.
@deefsound
@deefsound Жыл бұрын
On the subject of freedom, can you please ask Starkey if he has revisited his position on mandatory vaccinations. A blind spot has emerged in recent months, largely, I suspect because he is so sound on many cultural issues, and as a result he has been let entirely off the hook on his support for mandatory covid jabs.
@denisehay8895
@denisehay8895 Жыл бұрын
I had no idea that was his view and am somewhat shocked.
@cargumdeu
@cargumdeu Жыл бұрын
I dont expect a historian to be naturally right when it comes to public health. I dont like what Niall Ferguson says about climate change, or Ukraine. It is possible to be right on one thing and wrong on another. But good luck finding someone with whom you agree on every single thing.
@deefsound
@deefsound Жыл бұрын
@@cargumdeu What an odd remark.
@cargumdeu
@cargumdeu Жыл бұрын
@@deefsound Not in the slightest. Starkey's ideas on vaccines are totally irrelevant to his chosen subject. Your own remark is the weird one.
@deefsound
@deefsound Жыл бұрын
@@cargumdeu “But good luck finding someone with whom you agree on every single thing.” 👈Odd remark.
@tupacalypse88
@tupacalypse88 Жыл бұрын
The only way to create perfection is to do terrible things to human beings cause humans aren't perfect. I like that
@TheBigKahuna1211
@TheBigKahuna1211 Жыл бұрын
Love Starkey, he’s one of the few anchors of rational thought left.
@zaygezunt
@zaygezunt Жыл бұрын
Utterly enthralling - this was a truly fascinating description of how and why our history matters.
@ReekieReels
@ReekieReels Жыл бұрын
I can't find the video of his speech at NatCon, I can only find Novara Media's reaction to it 🤔
@DarkLadyAthena1
@DarkLadyAthena1 Жыл бұрын
Dr. David Starkey is one of the best historians of our generation. His documentaries are among the best. He's a straight shooter, pull no punches kind of a man and one of the few who is a true scholar. His biography of Elizabeth I, Monarchy, are among his best. What he says here is very on point and it is refreshing to hear someone give historical background on our current political crisis.
@Matlacha_Painter
@Matlacha_Painter Жыл бұрын
I admire Bill’s immense skill as an interviewer. He is always able to get his guests talking, especially with David who usually is a man of very few words. ;). He always captures my full attention and leaves me with greater insight in to the world in which we live.
@xersoslexersos6366
@xersoslexersos6366 Жыл бұрын
​I like Starkey and the rough thrust of his point, but this is starting to sound a lot like Nietzsche and Derrida, which I don't think is a very good grounding for a society. He's sitting on the branch he is cutting off by desiring a 'conservative' politics without God. I am sure he would argue that many of the influences of the things which have made England great being a result of its geography and the influence and interplay of other factors. But it cannot be overlooked that so much of all of this comes back to things done by people who had a fundamental belief in Christianity. The tradition can neither be preserved nor innovated when the roots are lost. Atheism is an enervating force. England's unique situation may have influenced the Christianity it has followed, but Christianity itself did not originate here - we cannot therefore entirely rely on our history alone to preserve our culture when Christianity is so clearly a part of it - it must colour how we approach the future but it cannot be our basis. Transcendental history is one of the finest examples of modernism a person could find because it dresses itself up as tradition while being revolutionary.
@h54h52
@h54h52 Жыл бұрын
"British Conservatism is Rooted in History NOT Religion" I can understand why David would say this, but it was Christianity in its various forms which brought together the various tribes of ancient Britain, and eventually led to the spread of literacy, so that people were able to read and understand the Christian faith, then apply that understanding to social ills..
@clivemarriott7749
@clivemarriott7749 Жыл бұрын
He means that our rights and freedoms developed historically being changed and revised by different rulers many times until they reached modern times. So it was history, there are no 'rights' in the Bible from God or any religion or philiosophy. Rights come from politics and ones standing as a citizen in the nation state.
@h54h52
@h54h52 Жыл бұрын
@@clivemarriott7749 Well, I don't want to get into an argument about it 'online" with someone I don't know, but I think you're very wrong! Yes Common Law comes into it, but the moral teachings of the Bible, and especially Jesus Christ have had a great and continuing effect on the Western world, -and further afield. China and Iran for example.
@clivemarriott7749
@clivemarriott7749 Жыл бұрын
@@h54h52 Its OK to argue with me online as long as a degree of civility is maintained. Speaking about history I agree that Christianity is a cornerstone of western civilisation. The American constitution inspired by the Magna Carter and Christianity gives people rights which i'm sure is a good thing. However the Bible did not say people have rights ? I'm saying rights have no moral authority from God but they do have authority from the concept of citizens rights developed from Roman/Greek times.
@h54h52
@h54h52 Жыл бұрын
@@clivemarriott7749 Apologies, I agree with you. The Scriptures do not teach that people have rights, although the Torah teaches that the Sinai Covenant contains t’s and c’s or blessings and cursings, if you prefer! The underlying supposition of Biblical morality and law is that God has given man free will. We make choices and we or others, receive the blessings or the consequences of our decisions. Human Rights legislation results from the philosophy of Humanism, which teaches amongst other things that man is a result of evolution, which in turn resulted from some chemicals in a puddle somewhere, producing the first living cell. So man is free, and unaccountable- because there is no God.(
@clivemarriott7749
@clivemarriott7749 Жыл бұрын
@@h54h52 Thanks for the discussion because that is a chance to learn something from another conscious thinking life. I use the example of mother nature as another cornerstone of truth. If it didn't happen in nature then maybe it should not happen in our cities. But fair enough a puddle of chemicals does not inspire.
@stuartofblyth
@stuartofblyth Жыл бұрын
"Reason is not enough" (25:47). If there's one takeaway from the conversation, this is it. Priceless.
@Design_no
@Design_no Жыл бұрын
Starkey is brilliant 👏 👌 🙌
@CCDR07
@CCDR07 Жыл бұрын
Three comments right at the beginning of Starkey's discussion of the french revolution and comparing the french and british constitutions. 1. A 'stable' regime, hierarchy, social order, etc. does not require it to be "good" for the majority of people (or the surrounding non-human life) living in it. India's cast system is "stable", but there are many who are born to oppression and exploitation in the lower castes. 2. The british constitution itself has been subjected to sweeping ammendments, eradications, and additions as a result of political upheaval, uprisings, revolts, etc. I think Starkey's line of "reasoning" and narrative he is telling is not grounded in experience, humanity, or place, but instead suits his ideological purposes. A "dangerous" kind of reason in Edmund Burke's word. 3. Those with wealth/power have been the ones calling the major shots in these parts for the last 5000 years or so, how would he rate the West's social, economic, and ecological stability at the moment? We've had three conservative prime ministers in the space of a couple months!
@robbeales5516
@robbeales5516 Жыл бұрын
For the first time in my lifetime 75. I wonder how this country would be nowadays had we lost the war. I doubt very much we would be multicultural !
@vanpallandt5799
@vanpallandt5799 Жыл бұрын
It would be a horrible place. We saw what they did in Poland etc
@venataciamoon2789
@venataciamoon2789 Жыл бұрын
Often think the same.
@paulturner9998
@paulturner9998 Жыл бұрын
What an incredible man. Love his humour and intelligence and knowledge
@radiodazeband2854
@radiodazeband2854 Жыл бұрын
It's quite clear that rights are not universal - or just sitting there in the air. They can either be "God-given"" - what if I don't believe in God? Or I believe in a different one - with a different set of rules? Or they can be Hu-Man given - but by whom for whom? If say the UN declare a set of rights and I don't subscribe to the UN - why should I subscribe to what they espouse?
@xdgamesCoUk
@xdgamesCoUk Жыл бұрын
You don't have to respect or follow any rules, rights or laws if you don't want to. You just need to make sure to either avoid those who would look to force them upon you, or have enough power to withstand anyone who would try to force them upon you. And since I doubt you have enough power to fight against a nation state, I would just keep a low profile and you do you.
@izzyplant8428
@izzyplant8428 Жыл бұрын
With you 100%. God given insight. Thank you.
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast Жыл бұрын
God is manmade, so rights are also manmade.
@Electriclentilman
@Electriclentilman Жыл бұрын
David Starkey - isn’t that Ironman ?
@neilcarr9340
@neilcarr9340 Жыл бұрын
Dr Starkey is a national treasure.
@hazchemel
@hazchemel Жыл бұрын
It was always a vast unknown thing for me? I have Human Rights? Who says? Who gives a human right to me? Do I have to do anything to possess this? And so on ... There is no such thing, of course but this wasn't easy to accept since the TV and press always talk about it,
@cactusjohn9145
@cactusjohn9145 Күн бұрын
A sentient wellspring. Keep Dr Starkey's nouse out there. Pass it on !
@brianfairclough4109
@brianfairclough4109 Жыл бұрын
Before I listen to this, I wonder if RS will roll out the old St Augustine 'Piss and Shit' quote? I don't think that I've heard a speech from him in the past 18 months where he hasn't used it.
@brianfairclough4109
@brianfairclough4109 Жыл бұрын
Yes!! I had to wait eleven minutes and and forty seconds for it. Thank you David. 😊
@mfecanegukurahundi24
@mfecanegukurahundi24 Жыл бұрын
Every one is Tribal, once we realise this we can sit down and negotiate boundaries and peace. until that happens, tensions will remain.
@jj-yi1ne
@jj-yi1ne Жыл бұрын
i dont believe you
@mfecanegukurahundi24
@mfecanegukurahundi24 Жыл бұрын
@@jj-yi1ne Fair comment. What is your view on the matter?
@shauntempley9757
@shauntempley9757 10 ай бұрын
The UN knows that. Universal human rights was an attempt to place everyone on the same level, and key guides that state boundaries between each tribal group. It basically sees each nation as a tribe unto itself. This was done, because technology in military weaponry had developed to the level that entire peoples could be extinguished with a push of a button at worst, and with a full on mass campaign of conventional warfare at least. He likes the fact that London has history buried under the streets he walks. He fails to recognise that the technology is powerful enough to totally wipe out all trace of that history buried under London streets. Hoping that another nation will not elect another danger that triggers another global war is a fools errand. These rights are there to ensure that there is criminal courts that can handle those events. It is managing the dangerous sides of humanity, that got really bad in WW2.
@markrymanowski719
@markrymanowski719 5 ай бұрын
Mass immigration is imposed upon us by "our" politicians who are governed by the elite of the elite. There is nothing we can do about it but winge and whine and bellyache.
@violinstar5948
@violinstar5948 Жыл бұрын
Where can we find David Starkey’s speech at Nat Con??
@JonGUK
@JonGUK Жыл бұрын
Brilliant chat today, thoroughly enjoyed it. David Starkey is a human encyclopaedia.
@tavuzzipust7887
@tavuzzipust7887 Жыл бұрын
What is the criterion for distinguishing merely alleged human rights from authentic human rights ? The notion of human rights has been debased by being turned into a rhetorical deice to justify whatever happens to be Left fad of the moment.
@Fenristhegreat
@Fenristhegreat Жыл бұрын
The test for a real human right is the idea of 'man in a state of nature'. So, a man on his own in the wild is granted by nature the freedom to speak, think, move, and keep the profit of his labours. These are human or natural rights, you only lose them when someone else denies you them. However things like health care, electricity, shelter, happiness, are not human rights.
@KopperNeoman
@KopperNeoman Жыл бұрын
@Fenristhegreat The erosion started with the independent United States. Their aristocrats replaced Life, Liberty, Property with Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. And keeping the fruits of your labours isn't a freedom in the State of Nature. There are multiple species whose survival strategy is to steal. You do, however have the natural right to attempt to prevent that theft - just as the thief has the natural right to steal.
@jenniferlawrence2701
@jenniferlawrence2701 Жыл бұрын
@@Fenristhegreat Those (natural rights) are abilities. I'm not sure why they should be called rights. It seems needlessly confusing. A bear has the ability to take a dump in the woods, but to say it has a _right_ to do so seems like an abstraction.
@stuartmenziesfarrant
@stuartmenziesfarrant Жыл бұрын
Make pageantry great again
@davidbaloney2505
@davidbaloney2505 Жыл бұрын
Lovely to hear mr starkey. Every day a day at school.
@karenmancina8679
@karenmancina8679 Жыл бұрын
We will constantly be called on to compromise
@kapple654
@kapple654 Жыл бұрын
3:40 revolutions have terror but so do unchallenged monarchies.
@glennmitchell9107
@glennmitchell9107 Жыл бұрын
As the French Revolution had relatively instant karma in the form of the terror, was the American Civil War the delayed karmic response to the American Revolution?
@thomaswayneward
@thomaswayneward Жыл бұрын
In a way, it was. Lincoln and his war ruined the Republic and the independence of the States. That was the intention of Lincoln, nothing to do with slaves, who Lincoln hated.
@brianmulrennan1845
@brianmulrennan1845 Жыл бұрын
A superb exposition of our history and constitution. I have been so enlightened. I also didn't really know where Blenheim is.
@louisdocherty8219
@louisdocherty8219 Жыл бұрын
I think that Julian asagague might not believe that we have hapeuas corpus
@PrivateWalker
@PrivateWalker Жыл бұрын
In very few countries one actually has any 'human rights' other than in name.
@CCDR07
@CCDR07 Жыл бұрын
Another comment from around minute 7:30. Our "not-perfect" british state is compelling many people to do horrible things due to the staggering inequalities that exist in regards to access to education, healthcare, clean and healthy food and environments, access to justice, etc. You don't need a dictatorship to try and force human beings to be a certain way. Economic conditions/status can also dictate our lives disasterously.
@ishmaelforester9825
@ishmaelforester9825 Жыл бұрын
A lot of the best old writings of serious men are like that, tedious in detail for us but then you find golden passages when they express general principles or ideas. Burke amid the politics of his day is like the great fathers, doctors and saints of the Church amid the heathenism and heresies.
@prepperjonpnw6482
@prepperjonpnw6482 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think he understands why the American constitution says what it says about rights. It really shows either his ignorance or his arrogance.
@The_Cosmic_Yog-Sothoth
@The_Cosmic_Yog-Sothoth Жыл бұрын
Human rights are granted by the latest ruling jobsworths. They are not genetic, nor born with.
@fuchsiafreud
@fuchsiafreud Жыл бұрын
Anyone know who the Dane is he's referring to at 17:17?
@81048107
@81048107 Жыл бұрын
I guess as a Yank across the pond, I need to be hopefully, an objective contrarian (which is hard, because I like Starkey so much.) Politics is downstream of culture and culture is downstream of religion. Human rights are rooted in religion, but they evolve and take form over time, and this evolution/formation is documented by history. As such, they are not rooted in history, they are rooted in religion; no religion, no human rights. And yes, they are universal. Perhaps a comparison might be helpful - here in America, we have observed that as religion retreats from the public square, we are beginning to lose authentic human rights and are seeing the emergence of other so-called "rights" never recognized before, based on the legal contrivances of various case law and court rulings.
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast Жыл бұрын
Your theory is simplistic. Britain, France, Germany, and Russia (to name but a few) are all historically Christian countries, yet their histories and political cultures are VERY different. Starkey is right, a particular country's culture is rooted in its history, which, in turn is rooted in its geographical location (its neighbours, which countries it goes to war with, etc.) and its geographical peculiarities (climate, crops grown, etc.). Ultimately, EVERYTHING (including which religion a country adopts) is rooted in history, which is rooted in geography.
@yoyo-lf3ld
@yoyo-lf3ld Жыл бұрын
Anyone know where I can find his speech at natcon?
@David-uf8ex
@David-uf8ex Жыл бұрын
Always love it when David Starkey is on 👏👏
@jenniferbate9682
@jenniferbate9682 Жыл бұрын
Love the intro music…reminds me of Frost and TWTWTW. 😊 GIVING MY AGE AWAY XX
@mj99a
@mj99a Жыл бұрын
1: 05 - is "execration" the word dr. starkey uses?
@divinaluz7
@divinaluz7 Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@timothymobbs656
@timothymobbs656 Жыл бұрын
Starkey should be PM.
@SmileyEmoji42
@SmileyEmoji42 Жыл бұрын
Starkey should write the History section of the National Curriculum 🙂
@persiancarpet7853
@persiancarpet7853 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thank you.
@SirPrancelot1
@SirPrancelot1 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating talk. Thank you.
@divinaluz7
@divinaluz7 9 ай бұрын
Listening to this from 00:20:00 onwards hits differently in the wake of latest news on 7.10.23.
@AndyJarman
@AndyJarman Жыл бұрын
Isn't the family a more fundamental unit than the nation state? I'd have thought the journey of the child through to adulthood, with brothers, sisters, grandparents, aunts, uncles and parents is where the template for justice is best expressed? English Common Law as an expression of the true social unit. The Nation State is an incorporation of families into a fictitious unit that has to be given "rights" as though it is a person while at the same time is NOT a living being. Corp, oration, the speech of a body, where the body is nothing more than a contract.
@jenniferlawrence2701
@jenniferlawrence2701 Жыл бұрын
Who ever said it wasn't? (a more fundamental unit than the nation-state)
@thomaswayneward
@thomaswayneward Жыл бұрын
Exactly, and the family is the most important. Without it everything collapses. Look at black families in the States; more than half of black families have no father present.
@charliebuttocks2400
@charliebuttocks2400 Жыл бұрын
Very good Peter but could you whittle it down a bit to say…20 minutes
@peteg8920
@peteg8920 11 ай бұрын
"True religion is the foundation of human society. When that is once shaken by contempt , the whole fabric cannot be stable nor lasting." - Edmund Burke . The foundation seems to me to be very shaken , if not crumbling before our eyes.
@Thespian-wp6xq
@Thespian-wp6xq Жыл бұрын
His books too, are always a terrific read.
@simonwiltshire7089
@simonwiltshire7089 Жыл бұрын
The last 3 years has shown us who are the corrupt villians and who are the hero’s. David is the latter.
@elizabethmackenzie5730
@elizabethmackenzie5730 Жыл бұрын
Barclay is a Peterhouse historian as well as having been educated by the Army.
@andrewdavies8954
@andrewdavies8954 Жыл бұрын
At last someone making sense of the dangers of mixing different races
@TheWorldisSoDivided
@TheWorldisSoDivided Жыл бұрын
Amen to that!!! Can’t even have an opinion.
@anthonydowney6069
@anthonydowney6069 Жыл бұрын
He refers to intervening in Afghanistan so "girls would have the freedom to wear miniskirts like NYC hookers ",but remember what was actually said at the time "it was for girls education ".Yes mostly white British soldiers died and were horribly injured for that. But in the wake of that failure by the "neo cons "theirs and their opponents at the time are now all agreed on the solution-open borders. So any individual from these countries of whatever political and or religious views can "choose "their country of choice to move to. Which is what the UN and their various bodies and committees have been advocating for decades which Starkey was alluding to in a similar way in the interview.
@christopherjones67
@christopherjones67 Жыл бұрын
I like David Starkey maybe the beeb will give him a job. There's no such thing as human rights. Judeo-Christian tradition teaches us to be nice to each other but ultimately the rights we have are those that the respective nation state that we live in bestows upon us. Unless your an Englishman. We are freeborn. Magna Carte , Common Law, etc. Yanks copied us when the English 13 colonies seperated from the Mother Country.
@vanpallandt5799
@vanpallandt5799 Жыл бұрын
But for example, Magna Carta was signed at a time when Wales was under occupation. Our laws were overturned. So this is solely an English thing?
@christopherjones67
@christopherjones67 Жыл бұрын
@@vanpallandt5799 What do you mean occupied? Magna Carta was endorsed by the Welsh. King John received representation from all parts of the British Isles. Scots included. It was an English document though. We're all British however.
@vanpallandt5799
@vanpallandt5799 Жыл бұрын
@@christopherjones67 Wales hadnt welcomed the Normans or English in though. We had our own laws etc and princes.
@christopherjones67
@christopherjones67 Жыл бұрын
@@vanpallandt5799 Fair point. But I assume you agree Magna Carta was a good thing? Even if it superseded Welsh laws & practices? I'll admit I'm slightly out of my comfort zone. History is my interest but it's WW2 , Third Reich, British Empire, not really interested in much before mid 19th Century. Love the Victorian era. Tell me where I'm wrong? Or perhaps better the nuance. I tend to make blanket statements.
@vanpallandt5799
@vanpallandt5799 Жыл бұрын
@@christopherjones67 the Welsh laws were more about restitution and compensation and less about punishment
@endpc5166
@endpc5166 Жыл бұрын
Have to object to DR Starky reprehensible misquoting of the American Declaration of Independence. It nowhere says that all men are born free, and it where it says "that all men are created equal", given the times then where there was belief in the Divine right of Kings, that phrase only meant that there are no divinely ordained or natural aristocracies but that all men should be considered equal under the law. And that he can't see that as self-evident doesn't give him the right to insult it as "manifest rubbish."
@debbielangton8371
@debbielangton8371 9 ай бұрын
So jack and Jill did go up the hill😂🤣🇬🇧
@roytaylor2161
@roytaylor2161 Жыл бұрын
What's shocking in the coronation ceremony is that the king does not even recite the creed of the Church of England in which he professes to belong to a 'Catholic and Apostolic church' - not a Roman one note. In the official prayer book there is no mention of Protestantism. The coronation service seems to hold out such little conciliation to Catholic and Orthodox churches.
@dcgames8575
@dcgames8575 Жыл бұрын
Instead of 'Whittle', this video should be called 'The Starkey Monologue'.
@ArtyFactual_Intelligence
@ArtyFactual_Intelligence Жыл бұрын
Welcome to Tufton Street. The NewRemburg Culture Rallying Point
@MsHburnett
@MsHburnett Жыл бұрын
Always interesting for bredth and width of history
@GregPotemkin
@GregPotemkin Жыл бұрын
At approx 37:47 - The Afghan Warlord will go "isn't it marvelous that our girls are going to be able to dress up just like whores in New York - isn't this exactly what we want!" - I don't actually agree with him and think that he is conflating western cultural "values" (if that is what you want to call them) with universal concepts like Human rights, in order to disparage the universal nature of those rights, but it was a very good interview - well worth watching.
@tmc02086
@tmc02086 Жыл бұрын
Multiculturalism only works in metropolis / mega city or country like USA, / London. yet, there are still a lot of shortcomings. Other countries try multiculturlism is like digging their own grave.
@leestirling4623
@leestirling4623 Жыл бұрын
Actually those places are difinitive proof that it doesn't work.
@tmc02086
@tmc02086 Жыл бұрын
@@leestirling4623 This is why I said there are pros and cos for multiculturalism. However, to be a world financial centre, you can't just have one homogeneous ethnic group made up the population. This is why only NY and London are the world financial centre. (Hong Kong used to be, but that's another story) But of cause, there are adverse effects that NY and London need to bear, but not financial one.
@pincermovement72
@pincermovement72 Жыл бұрын
Multiculturalism does not work anywhere and never has or will .
@daviocampi6951
@daviocampi6951 9 ай бұрын
There wasn't much on the pitfalls of multi culturalism but what Mr Starkey stated about the Labour party is so true. They are prone to hate heritage value in England, they hate their education. It seems whatever is noble is torn down and replaced with other cultures very different with opposing value systems. The idea of being conservative makes them feel very uncomfortable. They would rather have a cultural revolution and lose their identity and their moral compass to create an alternative society where some brothers are more equal than others.
@donhansen1175
@donhansen1175 Жыл бұрын
Ortega speaks of history living for the British! Don Hansen
@rsqyoung
@rsqyoung Жыл бұрын
"The 'Lord' giveth and the Lord taketh away"
@bristolfashion4421
@bristolfashion4421 Жыл бұрын
...and also the Lord turneth us around, bend us over and shafteth us from behind, innit...
@rsqyoung
@rsqyoung Жыл бұрын
@@bristolfashion4421 of course, but that is the Natural world.
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast Жыл бұрын
Why do you put "Lord" in single quotation marks? And why only the first time you use the word, but not the second? And if we assume this is true, so what? What are we supposed to do with this information? Does it help ANYBODY make a decision about ANYTHING? This sort of thing reminds one of the Islamic cultures (insha'allah, al-Ḥamdu lillāh, and so on), and THEY haven't been world leaders in anything for centuries. Now, I wonder why?
@burtlangoustine1
@burtlangoustine1 Жыл бұрын
7:01 Starky tells us a historical political fact about why politics needs to serve the people, not perfect them into a 'perfect world' as it's humanly impossible to pull off: Humanity is flawed. Interesting. It's like we've been 'coded' to never perform like perfect drones as a species.
@Mina-gm3pg
@Mina-gm3pg Жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to watching the coronation and very sad that the weather dampened proceedings. Charles was not in a good mood, he likely slept poorly. This was not exciting watching pensioner king and queen against young fresh blood ascending the throne. Made a point to listen to Dr Starkey for real information. Camera angles not always good. Very irritated and annoyed that BBC chose what we could view. I think the monarchy is getting ready to give up the position and retain prominent positions in the global, woke world order.
@EmYT5678
@EmYT5678 Жыл бұрын
This was a very fascinating conversation. I am not sure if I entirely agree that conservatism is based in History in its entirety. Of course conservatism has its roots in History, but a big part of that history has been religion. That does not only refer to the strong influence if Christianity in our History. We have other religions , pagan religions, that have contributed to our traditions. Religion is the Godhead which maintains man's humility; a humility that enables us to recognise and listen to the wisdom passed down through traditions of our particular tribe. History is a record of the culture's learning curve, but that is not it's only function ; it roots us to our past and reminds us to preserve tradition, partly in the name of all who have suffered to realise it. Religion adds to this as the recognition of God encourages and inspires us to keep on trying to improve on what we are, as individual people and as a nation, where necessity indicates.
@kenbroadbent7288
@kenbroadbent7288 Жыл бұрын
He is the guardian of the national story.
@annabizaro-doo-dah
@annabizaro-doo-dah Жыл бұрын
The official photographs of the Coronation were appalling. Just laughable. The (clearly too weighty for them) crown's of Charles & Camilla looked as if they were cut out and stuck on in a child's scrapbook. Just bizarre.
@pennypothoneypot634mimmahappun
@pennypothoneypot634mimmahappun Жыл бұрын
Every ruler needs a ruler. Reason is not enough and love is not enough.❤🎉
@mariakaraiskou3291
@mariakaraiskou3291 10 ай бұрын
Oh my God, what an analysis! I have to admit that if every conservative thinker was like you, i would gladly be a conservative. But, I'm very much afraid that this kind of illuminating conservative thinking is being produced exclusively in the British Isles...
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