News From The Warfront 1 - Can I Kick a Player for Proxies?

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El Dorado Gaming

El Dorado Gaming

4 күн бұрын

The Gang responds to a post about a competitive Magic event where a player uses proxies to play a high-power deck. Should other players outlaw the proxies or just power up to compete?
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@GundamPilotBen
@GundamPilotBen 2 күн бұрын
Who needs real friends when I can just proxy them?
@brentmiller5569
@brentmiller5569 Күн бұрын
cEDH is mostly proxy-friendly in my area, with a lot of places allowing a maximum of 10 proxies for big tournaments. My LGS has no limit on proxies for its bi-weekly cEDH event, which is free and offers $100 in-store credit as a prize. I've played both with and without proxies, and there are definitely mixed opinions on the proxy rules. Personally, I limit myself to only 10 proxies, but I've played in tournaments where some decks are almost 100% proxied. Here's my perspective: I wouldn't say I like it when people proxy 100% of their deck. However, I want to play the best decks to prepare for the bigger tournaments that have a 10-proxy limit. I'm slowly buying the cards I have proxied so I can eventually play at stores that have a zero-proxy rule. I know some of the players, and the reality is that only a handful have 100% cEDH decks because of the cost.
@hikewne83
@hikewne83 Күн бұрын
Have seen this topic so much it hurts, its kind of a rule zero conversation, in my local play group we had this exact thing happen, scum bag put together a nearly all proxy card deck and proceeded to stomp us over and over, so we just straight banned any proxy cards you don't own an original of, solved the problem immediately. now to be fair most of our decks don't breach the $100 range often and are built for fun.
@jeffnosdivad3080
@jeffnosdivad3080 2 күн бұрын
I buy high-quality proxies for things I own but want multiple copies of. It's pretty cool, the back of the card is blank to really drive home that they arent REAL cards( i assume for copyright, trade and sale reasons ). So I'm obviously good with proxies, but for an event with prizes and such, I wouldn't use them. That's just me though.
@magicalmadness
@magicalmadness 2 күн бұрын
I have one full proxy deck but it's persistent pert where i play 5 actual copies of the card and 70 proxies of it. The deck is a fun little thing where i play just lands, 75perts, and a thrumming stone. But perts are a $2 common and spending that much for a joke deck is a little too much.
@eldoradogamingtx
@eldoradogamingtx Күн бұрын
I have a video for my Dragon's Approach deck here on the channel (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m953qbSJs6jTlWg.html), and I mentioned the crazy prices for these "any number in your deck" cards there too. I absolutely find no problem with proxying a $2-4 common.
@AgentxkGI
@AgentxkGI 2 күн бұрын
This is me. Turned out proxies ARE banned. Also, the player ended up in the negative for points because there are penalties for stuff like multi turns etc.
@eldoradogamingtx
@eldoradogamingtx 2 күн бұрын
Ooooh thanks for the update! We recently finished our first season of our achievement-based competitive league. Our achievements are described in episode 23 (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rbGToLpz39q3Y6c.htmlsi=iTuQ5jTf4eTgxMLb), and our thoughts at the end of the season are in episode 40 (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bbqipJxiususmmw.htmlsi=aXR9AXo6NekbpDgs). Thanks for checking us out.
@ThatDrummaDave
@ThatDrummaDave 2 күн бұрын
I feel like every post I see about proxies, proxies are never the issue, pubstomping is. And it seems like attaching a prize pool to a casual format is a magnet for pubstomping. The problem would be the same here if instead of proxies, it was a millionaire's kid who bought a $10,000 deck off cardkingdom.
@eldoradogamingtx
@eldoradogamingtx Күн бұрын
Yep, the same was true in this situation. We mentioned that the LGS has to change SOMETHING about their rules or their pay-to-play night for this to work out.
@KallenMalefic
@KallenMalefic 23 сағат бұрын
Typical cedh player mentality ngl. I've met a lot of local players who hate proxies. Some lgs do "deck checks" and if you have proxies you're asked to take them off or leave the store. This is how every cedh player I have met is like. Which is why I hate cedh and think it ruins the heart of commander.
@eldoradogamingtx
@eldoradogamingtx 23 сағат бұрын
In this instance, it’s the casual players who don’t like the use of proxies. The proxies enable a player to play at a much more competitive level than his budget would normally allow. We did learn from the original poster that the LGS doesn’t allow proxies, so this issue will likely solve itself…until wealthy players that CAN afford very powerful cards decide to join their local meta anyway.
@KallenMalefic
@KallenMalefic 23 сағат бұрын
@@eldoradogamingtx The problem is that nobody knows what casual and competitive is in edh. Been to "casual" pods and it was blue farm, rogsig, blue farm and my detective tribe deck. This is "casual"? EDH has a communication issue that nobody wants to address.
@tedwasanasan3805
@tedwasanasan3805 2 күн бұрын
Yes, it would be wrong of you.
@eldoradogamingtx
@eldoradogamingtx 2 күн бұрын
In this episode, we respond to a post online and tell him exactly this as we talk through the issue! :)
@theweaverstextstories8129
@theweaverstextstories8129 2 күн бұрын
By the rules of the game proxies are inherently cheating they are counterfeit cards so this person by definition is cheating
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