Lee Berger certainly chose the right career. His lecture was very inspiring.
@timhansell34212 жыл бұрын
Dear Lee - Given the incredible journey you have been on, given the proud moment of discover by your son . . . you have also revealed the rare but special trait of few modern men . . . and that is humility. Your talk is one of enrichment and enchantment. Thank You.
@mogenscamre37622 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Good Comment
@theodoredingle5061 Жыл бұрын
😮😮😮😮😮🎉🎉😂😂😂😂
@spiralsun1 Жыл бұрын
Humility is key. The trick is to have it while speaking and listening both. 😂👍🏻🥰 And to not ever shut off that part of you which operates by love and unity. That’s the part motivated primarily by truth. Objective, selfless, truth. We are all explorers of that realm. ❤
@mytwocents8482 жыл бұрын
Lee Berger is not only an exceptionally nice person, but an incredible innovator. I hang on his every word and discovery that makes our ancient history so exciting. Thank you, so much, Lee! I love his book and have re-read it several times. It never gets old.
@dodieodie498 Жыл бұрын
Do you know him personally?
@mwj53684 жыл бұрын
Dr Berger's excitement is infectious, stirs the imagination. I feel like he's an inspiring milestone in action, a powerful speaker, and a ground-breaking (no pun intended ha!) scientist of historic proportions.
@je-freenorman7787 Жыл бұрын
Imagination is nor science This guys a religious freak-a-zoid
@zoebenda77283 жыл бұрын
I was so upset that I had to watch this video for school until I actually watched this. This is incredible. Amazing.
@blowfishes3 жыл бұрын
Sharing with the world when others would be overtly protective of their discovery is so refreshing. We find out in near real time things that may usually take years if not decades. This is how you get young people interested in your field of study. This is how you build and leave your legacy. Fabulous stuff 💜
@caseyjude54722 жыл бұрын
I listen to this story over & over. It’s such an excellent tale, and I love how he tells the truth about success-perseverance, hard work & many hours of study produces results.
@NewbFixer3 жыл бұрын
I thought he was rather funny, pitty the audience wasnt in a laughing mood. Must have been monday. Good show Mr Lee Berger! Thumbs!
@lupooflunarorigin1203 жыл бұрын
Agreed. He handled the punchlines going wrong well, though
@trishalfaro3 жыл бұрын
I’m one to listen to these kinds of things to help me fall asleep. Let’s just say that my partner is none too appreciative of my smothered giggles because I am finding him rather funny, too! Thanks for saying so - I guess I’m your kind of crazy😂🤣😂🤣😂
@fleetwoodbeechbum3 жыл бұрын
Would we even hear the laughter if the audience isn't miked? I would think a sound engineer would go out of their way to keep the stray sounds out. Then they'd realize later they needed a laugh track but that would make it sound cheesy.
@JeffPopplewell Жыл бұрын
Likely a bad choice of mic.
@timmorrison4117 Жыл бұрын
Tough crowd.
@TheWildernessChannel3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in this area around the Magaliesberg, where all these sites are found. There are numerous caves and sinkholes and wonderful cliff sites in gorges like Tonquani, which are wonderful for rock-climbing. I have been fortunate enough to explore some of those caves and climb some of the climbing sites with my friends. The environment above-ground is also very beautiful with some incredible plant and animal life. There are many antelope and leopard here and many birds of prey. The Magaliesberg is the place where the Sable Antelope was first discovered and named to science. Close-by are some of the richest platinum mines in the world and the richest and deepest gold mines (up to 4km deep) ever discovered. About 60% of all the world's gold ever mined was found in these South African mines. The Sterkfontein Caves are one of many incredible sites that scientists are still exploring. There is a lot of ancient and modern history in this area. There are fossil hominids, bushmen paintings, ancient village sites and more modern historical sites. The Magaliesberg is also infamous for being the area where the AmaZulu and many Sotho tribes massacred each other in the Difecane, which led to the death of between 1.5 - 2 million people (it was a true genocide) in the late 1800's. The Boers fought the British in this area during the Anglo-Boer Wars and there was a lot of other interesting history that occurred here. Wits University, my alma mater, has done considerable research in this area, particularly but not exclusively, done by the palaeontology department. This was a wonderful lecture and I hope that people understand that South Africans are more than just the Apartheid history we get labelled with. There were many great discoveries, inventions and scientific studies done by South Africans, and much of the history of the world is attributable to what occurred on our shores. During the battle of Spioenkop in the Anglo-Boer war, Gandhi (a stretcher bearer at the time), Winston Churchill (a young British officer) and Generla Louis Botha (the first Prime Minister of the Union of South Africa) were present and all went on to make considerable contributions to the history of the world. For the record the Boers won that Battle.
@LizLondonWWA Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I ❤this additional information about the area. So rich. Hopefully it hasn’t been terribly exploited.
@alexandrag3373 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!!! Besides the fascinating lecture and engaging story, the closing speech are words to live by. I am inspired.
@gypsycruiser3 жыл бұрын
I lived close to these areas and never went near those caves ...these researchers are brave
@mj-jo8es3 жыл бұрын
Exploration is never dead! I love his message and his determination to not destroy while exploring.
@albertzhou16534 жыл бұрын
Actually Spiffing talk. I was told to watch by Bio teacher and found it extremely interesting. 5/5 would recommend it. Five stars review.
@eomle5604 жыл бұрын
Would have to agree with you there Albert Zhou. 5/5 is certainly not enough for this absolutely splendid and riveting talk. would rate 10/5. Planning on showing my family later!
@albertzhou16534 жыл бұрын
@@eomle560 Would have to doubly agree with you there eomle. 10/5 is certainly not enough for this absolutely spiffing and spoffing talk. Would rate 15/5. Planning on showing it to my extended family later.
@eomle5604 жыл бұрын
@@albertzhou1653 Would have to triply agree with you there Albert Zhou. 10/5 is certainly not enough for this absolutely captivating and enthralling talk. Would rate 20/5. Planning on showing it to my family as well as my friends and my dog later!
@albertzhou16534 жыл бұрын
@@eomle560 Would have to quadruply agree with you there eomle. 15/5 is certainly not enough for this absolutely captivating and enthralling and spiffing and spoffing and spuffing talk. Would rate 25/5. Planning on showing it to my family as well as my friends and my dog later and my neighbours family also!!!!
@anon89354 жыл бұрын
@@albertzhou1653 i too would have to agree. This is easily a 69/5.
@claudelebel493 жыл бұрын
So much better than a TED talk. Awe-inspiring and humbling.
@SolaceEasy3 жыл бұрын
On Lee's closing comment: I climbed my 411th mountain with prominence yesterday, 13006' Pennsylvania Mountain. I saw an alpine flower I've never seen before, and I have been exploring tundra at least once a week for the last month.
@johnharris73534 жыл бұрын
A great man, imo, and a great scientist , speaker, professor, and leader.
@Theshizlenizle4 жыл бұрын
Incredible talk 👏 I would have loved joining that adventure
@barbaralouisebenjamin59183 жыл бұрын
It is good to know that we do not know it all, that a question is held over everything, and answers are not assumed, and our arrogance dies not get in the way of discovery.
@leapingkitties4 жыл бұрын
Dr. Berger is the most inspirational scientist I have ever heard. Wow. I can't wait to see the new work.
@8698gil2 жыл бұрын
I remember first learning about australopithecus, homo habilus, and homo erectus when I was in 7th grade social studies class. It absolutely fascinated me then, and still does, almost 50 years later.
@sarahferguson03 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing. I'm truly humbled by these things. I'm not sure i completely understand our family tree but i'm learning. Wonderful lecture.
@aloha12863 жыл бұрын
I read his book and he is an amazing story teller and a scientist.
@renupathak44423 жыл бұрын
Astounding, captivating and listening to him was like seeing a movie. I wish I was part of this historic find. God bless you. The motivational speech in the end is so beautiful
@robertbeerbohm18002 жыл бұрын
I have also long been fascinated with early evolution of humans. So many new things to learn!
@trisld Жыл бұрын
Those years you thought were just passing by....were preparing you for just this eventuality. That is one of the important lessons. People need to know that too.
@nicwalton0002 жыл бұрын
The audience is absolutely humorless. Interesting speech, interlaced with enough humor to keep me engaged.
@thomasabrahams79843 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this immensely, well done Dr Berger and team! 👏👏👏
@dazgreen633 жыл бұрын
What a great lecture. Simply enthralled right to the end
@JoyceSigns Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness for the bravery, skill, fortitude, and tenacity of "amateurs" Steve Tucker and Pedro, and for their bringing their discovery to Lee Berger! 🏆 WELL DONE!!
@brice5542 Жыл бұрын
Amazing, seems to inspire more questions than answers, in a good way. Bravo to the courage of the young explorers.
@clintonstahlman46183 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! I am 71 but I am going on a diet. One never knows when an opportunity will present itself!
@colinp22384 жыл бұрын
Amazing story, great inspirational speech and a good lesson to us all.
@bobtheblindbedroomguitaris87423 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video what a great man what a great story and a great inspiration for kids and adults alike I've been on a find your hominid ancest the quest on KZfaq for a week now so yeah this was a gym thank you again sincerely yours,
@johnrockwell58343 жыл бұрын
Wonder if the mythical legends of elves and dwarves are based on those hominid people's?
@thomaswilliamjohnson30223 жыл бұрын
Adam was a giant everybody else lol dwarfs lol jk crazy theory’s who knows
@sailorgunsveteran52602 жыл бұрын
this is actually a very interesting hypothesis, since almost every human group has myths and legends that indicate both hostile and benevolent others that are "almost" human. examples like goblins and kobolds, elves and gnomes, orcs and gnolls, all have magical mythical properties and have been in our collective consciousness but as in any myth there may have been a grain of truth that seeded it just without all the fantasy.
@dshe86372 жыл бұрын
I think the myths come from times people discovered fossils, just like dragons became a thing when dinosaur fossils were found
@charlesjmouse4 жыл бұрын
An amazing story and even more amazing discovery, I wish I had been part of it. Speaking as an interested amateur this species brings up so many questions: -It's without doubt an ancient lineage but has lasted until comparatively recently while "more modern" hominids were coming and going They must have been doing something "right" to stick around so long in the face of what we would usually consider "more modern" competition. Assuming it's not an artifact of taphonomy how did an "isolated" population last so long? -Even I can see there's an extraordinary mosaic of "modern" and "ancient traits" Are they the "end point" of the "trunk" many lineages we know branched from or are they an example of a "alternate trajectory"? What does their mosaic of traits say about "our" development... either directly if close relatives or indirectly if an "alternate line"? -They have "tiny" brains that seem to be very well developed given the endocast evidence What are such creatures doing seemingly "burying their dead" for an extended period of time? Is a really big brain not needed for "higher" cognition? They certainly weren't dwaves. Does this mean "our" route to "higher cognition" was achieved by brute force while they achieved it by efficiency? -H. Floresiensis begs fewer questions Pretty much everything about it's unusual anatomy can be hand-waved by invoking "island dwarfism" in an Erectus-grade ancestor. For myself I don't have a problem with the idea of ancient hominids rafting, indeed I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of the more peculiar specimens in Dmanisi and Asia turned out to be descendants of some Australopith that left Africa... wild speculation, I know! ...just a small selection of questions off the top of my head.
@Agapismene Жыл бұрын
Ever since they discovered a man operating 'normally' with very little brain matter, I have suspected it is consciousness not brain that informs ones apparatus.
@mystrength56402 жыл бұрын
Prof Lee., You are an incredible man of Worth! Thank you for all your credibility and energy to bring all this to Fruition! Jenny from Johannesburg. South Africa 🦒🐘🦛🦓🇿🇦
@americalost51003 жыл бұрын
Would love the names of those first young caver-scientists who descended through and into those claustrophobic spaces in order to do such marvelous science.
@Sweetlyfe3 жыл бұрын
There is the National geographic documentary that was the original dig.
@adrianreeves55833 жыл бұрын
The video of the dig that he is describing is here on youtube.
@AndrewJohnClive3 жыл бұрын
What a truly inspiring man! If this is the direction my son is going, I’m sending him to Wits!❤️
@lesleyhahn86822 жыл бұрын
Awesome speaker! I look forward to seeing more of your exploits. oh how I wish I had gone with my early love of archeology and ancient history and anthropology.
@beaulah_califa98673 жыл бұрын
He doesn't mention the two or three hour doc PBS & NatGeo produced together, titled. "The Dawn of Humanity". It's excellent & thorough. His FOUR-talks on Sediba, produced AFTER THE DISCOVERY by NatGeo, are also FANTASTIC. Prof John Hawks, his co-collaborator on both finds, is even more engaging & very funny. He has dozens of talks and lectures on PBS, KZfaq, and at the University of Wisconsin, Madison. Prof Hawks gets around the globe more and is in BBC doc productions. He has a very active blog. His KZfaq channel is more of an instruction on the characteristics of skulls found over the last 100-years. Sorry to go on but Prof. Hawks is known an expert on Neandertals and population genetics.
@stevefisher25534 жыл бұрын
INCREDIBLE STORY! Saw the finds live at the Perot museum in Dallas.
@sarahlight9564 жыл бұрын
Not Coming!🤣🤣🤣
@oscresson4 жыл бұрын
Berger is anthropology's Fosbury. We all benefit from such original people. All hale!!
@JavierBonillaC3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most exciting talks I’ve ever seen. I was glued to the screen. That is living as life is meant to be lived!
@tuff-duty6 ай бұрын
I have nothing to say. everything about this series of discoveries is personal ( “Dad, I found a fossil”), and timely ( google maps, facebook, unpaid girl scientists, university motorcycles, etc…) The expanding circle of lessons radiating out from these discoveries can be credited to one man- Dr Lee Berger. it’s only the beginning.
@lisasternenkind64672 жыл бұрын
How wonderful, that exactly those people found and are exploring this site, who are sharing their knowledge about their findings with the world. Also, remaining open for the unknown, and thinking outside the box for further discoveries, that might change everything and proove the established science wrong, is what real scientists do. Too bad most science fields nowadays have turned away from new discoveries, and are solely working on clearing their field from evidence that might tackle the established teachings. I am convinced that modern humans have evolved from several different human species and that there actually are several differring histories, which finally resulted in what we now name human races.
@mehboobkhan.43515 ай бұрын
Mr. Lee beeger is a great person, his contribution is no doubt too much,
@ruthcasteel53114 жыл бұрын
I remember the news story told of the call to recruit the caver sciencist for this cave . The fact they were skinny women just thrilled me...congrats to you & your family for the find...
@dwhit247 Жыл бұрын
An inspirational speaker and educator.
@MrSir-rq8qt3 жыл бұрын
Africa is the cradle of life so just understanding that narrows the search down to one continent, still a huge region to be able to find fossils of other humanoid species. So Good job, we need to know the whole history of everything that walked on this plane of existence and nothing less then that. I applaud all who delve into this adventurous field wether successful or not, every bit helps no matter.
@Tonyklco3 жыл бұрын
Applauded alone at the conclusion... well done !!
@tranjavanadbia1233 жыл бұрын
I find hard to believe that Homo Naledi went into the caves without some kind of light source.
@marc-andrebrunet53863 жыл бұрын
Exactly the kind of human story I loved ! Wow, bravo 🤘👨🏫👍
@paulroundy72203 жыл бұрын
What the heck were ancient hominids doing in such a difficult cavern to reach? How did they get there?
@peterz534 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an excellent talk
@sandramorey25292 жыл бұрын
Please thank that son of yours for finding that rock that revealed the skull of Naledi. And you for training him.
@kirstenspencer36303 жыл бұрын
Stunning discovery. I am near tears.
@ZappninLLP3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations to this great team!
@BrianBattles4 жыл бұрын
These discoveries would never happen if it was up to me....never going into a cave like that!
@BrianBattles4 жыл бұрын
@rent a shill I know, those people are crazy! 😄
@sharkamov Жыл бұрын
*Without a doubt one of the most **_fascinating_** lectures regarding the evolution of our species lineage, told by the man who made possible the discovery of Homo Naledi, Professor Lee Berger!* (And yet, there are individuals around us that thinks our planet is merely _Seven Thousand Years old_ . . . . 🙄)
@user-tz5pv6ih7m11 ай бұрын
These same discoveries may well be found in different places of the planet. Thank you for sharing these videos and your experience throughout.
@harveytheparaglidingchaser70393 жыл бұрын
Astonishing, captivating what a great story
@kaym77044 жыл бұрын
Amazing discovery.
@themyceliumnetwork Жыл бұрын
the greatest story in the history of modern times
@ArnieD173 жыл бұрын
Reading some of the comments remind me of reading comprehension tests where the questions were laid out in excruciating detail and yet people often had an incredibly hard time coming up with the correct answers.
@zazadem77293 жыл бұрын
Quelle aventure extraordinaire !
@caseyjude54724 жыл бұрын
I want to know what is in the breccia! What is it?!?! Is it an older Naledi? I’m so excited!
@aspe12 Жыл бұрын
Hats of to your resilience...you were a leaky boat in a stormy sea....but your faith in yourself carried you through.
@claudelebel493 жыл бұрын
Hard to believe that they could have carried the bodies to such a depth given the complexity. Even today, with lamps and all of our specialized equipment it is no piece of cake. Maybe at the time, the connecting tunnels were somewhat wider and easier to negotiate?
@earlgibbs70833 жыл бұрын
This guy is obviously focused on self-aggrandizement first and foremost, but what he'd researched and dicovered is a great contribution to finding out about our origins.
@DarwinianUniversal Жыл бұрын
Here's a theory. Maybe this creature was nocturnal and spent the daytime hours hiding in the cave. With its ability for climbing, coupled with an ability to navigate in low light environments it was able to explore and navigate the depths of the cave. In summary, a creature spending a great deal of time in the cave, add to that climbing ability and being comfortable in dark environments due to their nocturnal nature. Suddenly finding individuals down there doesn't seem so unlikely. Add to this predentary pressure from cats or other humanoids that can pursue Naledi into the cave system. Then the remote depths of the cave become a natural refuge where predators couldn't or wouldn't follow. I'm not saying I believe this, but if outside-the-box thinking is invited, then give this some consideration?
@Foxtrottangoabc Жыл бұрын
yes I dont know the precise details . But seems a lot of effort to carry a dead man's weight into these caves without ropes etc. Lookin at tge landscape , with sapiens, and man eating beasts this cave looks a great place to hide . Maybe a dwelling or somewhere these hominids went when being chased knowing no one could follow them . Ofcourse run the risk of not being able to get back out if you have no light. Your theory a good one to have better eyesight. I believe they may have found evidence of fire burning inside cave
@jakemoeller78503 жыл бұрын
We inhabit a fascinatingly beautiful planet that would produce such life!
@frankedgar66942 жыл бұрын
The Perot Museum in Dallas hosted a presentation of some of these fossils. I had the opportunity to go see them. That was pre-covid. Now I get to watch this lecture. Life is good.
@factchecker93583 жыл бұрын
Was Homo Naledi an outcast or marginalized subspecies with larger brain hominids in the better lowlands and choice areas?
@martiusmesquita4 жыл бұрын
Inspiring!
@davidwelshcreative3 жыл бұрын
Has the topography of the cave changed over time? Might it have been more accessible at the time the hominids were alive.
@mikeblast75073 жыл бұрын
What? You think it could have changed in 2 or 3 hundred thousand years? Of course it could have! What DIDN'T happen was primates barely down from the trees with brains the size of a chimp's and no control of fire intentionally dragging their dead through a series of narrow tunnels in the dark. It is utterly ludicrous to suggest otherwise. The fact that these "scientists" almost immediately stoop to anthromorphizing these little guys (who, living in trees, undoubtedly would have been terrified of close, dark spaces and wouldn't have even thought to enter them) is poor science. That should be LAST on their list of explanations, and in fact should never have been seriously considered. There is a far simpler explanation (such as another, more accessible opening, now long gone), but good luck finding it with these guys, who seemed to have stopped looking for it.
@stvbrsn3 жыл бұрын
Amazing. This is amazing on so many levels.
@Nancy-V11 ай бұрын
This was what I wanted to do growing up, but life took me into a different direction. I find this so amazing. I hope new DNA techniques will reveal even more.
@davidwelshcreative3 жыл бұрын
I agree - but to resolve this mystery, one must think outside the cave...
@henryseldon60773 жыл бұрын
Fascinating story!
@Yuyup73343 жыл бұрын
Apart from all intriguing questions about which we have not got the answers yet, I'd parallel this as 'the Dead Sea Scrolls' findings in the field of paleoantropology, and that's hillarious.
@ellenlewis9860 Жыл бұрын
Great! Stuff! I thank God my parents took National Geographic. I was 9 yo and fascinated by what I saw. It ignited a curiosity in me that has never left. A curiosity for SO many things. I'm too old to cave now but WOW.
@trevortaylor90023 жыл бұрын
BEYOND BELIEF, AWESOME...
@mikeg36602 жыл бұрын
Very interesting on the discoveries… a lot of time was spent on about “me, my reputation, cover of magazines…” The ego and protective nature of academics and need to claim discoveries has held back the use of open-source knowledge and perspective for ages. At least this is a start toward a more shared use of resources.
@AB-wf8ek2 жыл бұрын
I agree, he spent more time hyping the discovery than actually showing the discovery, very frustrating to watch.
@Numidiary4 жыл бұрын
This is an absolutely fucking awesome presentation. Has there been any study done to test genomic remnants of H. naledi in native SA people, as H. neanderthalensis has been shown as a genomic contributor to modern Europeans?
@caviramus09934 жыл бұрын
Homo naledi most likely died off before moder Homo sapiens has shown up. The second thing is that hybrids would be pretty problematic since Neanderthals are way more closely related to us than Homo naledi. In fact all people on the globe(excludin sub-saharan populations) have some Neanderthal DNA in then, first colonisation of Europe failed, there was interbreeding and the second conquest succeeded.
@seanbeadles74213 жыл бұрын
There is no H. Naledi DNA to check. We had Neanderthal DNA as they were much more recent and in a very cold environment, perfect for DNA preservation. If it’s too hot, the DNA degrades very quickly.
@Numidiary3 жыл бұрын
@@seanbeadles7421 though, by process of elimination, we could seek out anomalies that are present among native people there that are seen less and less, or not at all, in northern people
@seanbeadles74213 жыл бұрын
@@Numidiary that has been done actually. There are a few, what are called “ghost” populations, in the human genome. These are dna signatures in the modern day that aren’t traced/connected to any known fossil homonin. There’s one in west Africa that had an article out last year, and there are probably a good dozen+ if I were to guess. In Southern Africa, interestingly, the San people likely had a period of over like 100k years of reproductive isolation from other Homo sapiens before admixing again only about 2,000 years ago. There is also the Denisovans in Melanesia, but from what I remember there are a few more ghost lineages present in modern Melanesians.
@Numidiary3 жыл бұрын
@@seanbeadles7421 hell of an interesting topic
@spiralsun1 Жыл бұрын
YES!!! ❤️🔥👁 The most important and beautiful part of this is how he understood that our own current ideas which serve us and might be essentially correct can also be our biggest hurdle to progress. If you want to see that idea writ large, take a look at the evolution of life. Our own brains tend to go into niches. And for the same reason an organism is invisibly transformed by the process over time. It’s always invisible to the evolving organism until ironically we get to the inner invisible species of the mental life. Full disclosure: I wrote the book “The Textbook of the Universe: the Genetic Ascent to God” 20 years ago about this exact thing. So I have sat here for 20 years watching humanity catch up to what I have been saying all along. I became less upset about this when I began to see that pattern too writ large in civilization and in the much older and larger universe. It has been waiting far longer, as have the sun and the Earth. With science we are catching up. But since I wrote the foundation in my first book, I have continued at a furious pace thinking and writing to the point where I launched myself far into the future-the viable one, anyway. And so I became aware at an unprecedented level and I see dangers now which humans need to be working on solutions to but they don’t even see the problem. They see some of the problems. But the real issue is vision itself-understanding at a higher level. That’s why we have science and the modern world. Thank you for this beautiful message and for all the work you have done. It’s of absolutely transcendent importance ❤️🔥🙏🏻
@bassmith448bassist54 жыл бұрын
Freaking Amazing!!!!!!!!! Wow!!!! What an Awesome story!!!!
@250txc4 жыл бұрын
I can understand these guys liking their work but wake me up when it actually helps man today.
@DanieHattingh2 жыл бұрын
This is just around the corner from me, and have I never visited the caves. This makes me really want to.
@80slimshadys3 жыл бұрын
What I want to know is how did they see all the way in that cave all those years ago?
@mikeblast75073 жыл бұрын
Great question. They had brains the size of a softball, were barely down from the trees, and didn't have fire. How could they crawl into the caves drawing their dead behind them with no light and no idea where they were going? Clearly they DIDN'T. Archaeologists make their bones by positing controversial theories, which helps other archaeologists make their bones by challenging their conclusions and positing their own theories (none of which require actual proof), the very definition of the self-licking ice cream cone. Obviously, they got into the cave another way, possibly by falling in a hole they didn't see, or being thrown into it. The fact that there isn't a hole anymore doesn't mean there wasn't one at one time, those little guys have been laying down there a long time. (While they guess they were down there 200k, that's little more than a guess at this point, they could have been there a lot longer.) Archaeologists are great at finding stuff, what they're less great at is interpreting it. Look at how DNA has changed our understanding of our relationship with Neanderthals, HS migration patterns, the list goes on. Without DNA these guys are essentially guessing, as evidenced by the way their theories have morphed over the years.
@80slimshadys3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeblast7507 Yea I heard that they must of dropped them down a hole. It's the only likely way.
@BrianBattles4 жыл бұрын
Wonder why the heck those H. naledi dudes crawled down into such a scary random cave in the first place?
@julianshepherd20384 жыл бұрын
Escape sapiens and all his ruddy questions.🙂
@cweefy4 жыл бұрын
i wonder that also . additionally i wonder how different the cave would have been all those eons ago .
@elimalinsky70694 жыл бұрын
He says that in the video. The most likely theory is that they threw their dead into the cave.
@BrianBattles4 жыл бұрын
@@elimalinsky7069 But I thought he said they seemed to be arranged down there, with a few other artifacts. Sounded to me like they had perhaps squeezed themselves way down into there. Or perhaps I misunderstood.
@elimalinsky70694 жыл бұрын
@@BrianBattles The bones were washed down into the chambers below by water flows.
@oldschoolman14443 жыл бұрын
What I learned was scientist explorers should be trim and athletic. The others before them couldn't fit down there and figured there was nothing there.
@nobody83283 жыл бұрын
I wonder who took the dead into the cave? The family? A shaman? A midwife?
@captainjj71843 жыл бұрын
Incredible, addictive and an amazing presentation. Wondering if bones are clean or do they have post-mortem tool marks though.
@Traderjoe3 жыл бұрын
How did they maneuver through these cave systems to find that chamber without artificial light to show them where these small openings were?
@jrileycain62202 жыл бұрын
I'm curious as to how and why the skeletons got so far into these caves. Was this how early hominids disposed of their dead? Were caves ossuaries, grave yards? I saw a video of the Hazda tribe in Africa. When asked what they think happens after someone dies they said when someone dies they put them in a cave and they go back to the sun.
@kkdesignservices183 Жыл бұрын
This is all so mysterious. Some questions. 1) was the cave topography different back then, and these chambers were more accessible to the hominids? 2) if the topography has not changed, how is it that the hominids were able to climb so far down, which for us with ropes and lines and equipment is so difficult? 3) how could they have done this in pitch blackness? and why?
@julianfowler16082 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Not 1 um or err just the pure facts. Magical presentation thank you.
@redriver65412 жыл бұрын
An absolutely amazing lecture Dr. Thank you for sharing this. How in the.....did those "people" get into that cave.....and why? Such a wonderful mystery.
@MaryAnnNytowl Жыл бұрын
Why put people in quotation marks? They're either people or they're not.
@marthahines19792 жыл бұрын
Fascinating lecture. Love the comments too, Thank you.
@Rico-Suave_2 жыл бұрын
Watched all of it, I think I watched it before, no I watched a couple of documentaries of his discovery, great video, a must watch, gooo scientist, thank you very much scientist you truly advance our knowledge
@kenhiett52663 жыл бұрын
I'm glad we have humans that get lost in their work, but lost in their work indeed.