This will be the first time Ramaphosa losses a case in court. He has key people in key positions

If I was Ramaphosa I would appeal too, the judgement says the President did not follow legislated procedure of appointment. This is an indictment on the president. The zulu Royal House must sort their issues

This guy blames everyone except himself.They want the tax money

Ramaphosa must just stay away from the monarch and let the family deal with the matter internally... the problem with Ramaphosa is that he wants to use Misizulu for political reasons and he doesn't care about the family. The monarch family must be given space to deal with this matter internally, and once they are done, then they will announce who the king is🤷🏻🤷🏻🤷🏻 The courts must not be used to resolve internal family matters such as who is the rightful king... culture must be followed

😂😂😂😂as if Ramaphosa is the one who chose the king. They must sort their ish out, yhey were already divided.

King Misuzulu is the king of the Zulu in this era and that will not change what so ever he will remain the king

We owe umtwana uThokozane bigtime on this matter. A majority wont appreciate now, but one day you will. Thank you Sir for standing for the truth.

Thokozani Msweli must shutup !! He is not a Zulu Prince.

The prince must leave our president alone. The royal family is divided on its own. We all hear what is happening there including allegations of poisoning. The president did what was right according to Pietermaritzburg high court judgement.

My view is that the contesting of the throne is jealousy towards Queen MaDlamini Mantfombi ka Sobhuza . There are women behind this whole shenanigan niyongibuza

Lo wafakwa, but the real one is born, we pray for the royal family to allow king real to do His duties

Same thing as when Zuma endorsed Tony Mphephu Ramabulana as king of Vhavenda without following due processes

What exactly is his interest on the matter?

Ramaphosa never appointed king Misizulu but jugde Madondo gave president midizulu, s name as the right king for zulu nation, president did nothing wrong 😢😮

Misuzulu is the rightful king of Zulu nation these fools they are just anarchists

Those that are finding the monach relevant and useful let them worry, what do royal families in SA do for the communities?

As i understand this news. While accepting the Zulu nation,s new King a government judge says a committee somewhere must investigate something before the government will respond to the king on a political level. It is very clear that if the ANC government do not want to respond to the king on a political level while it is going to expropriate the land of the King without compensation (as is its stated policy and mission) then of what land will the King be a King if there is no border and the right to land taken away. That is why the ANC is dragging this matter out. The longer this matter takes the more chance of violence next year through some other matter that the media will blow up and then ignore this matter of Kingship all while disposing of the matter quietly behind the scenes. Governments and kings do not go together well. This government is finished and war is not a good thing. Whatever happens we will be on the side of the Zulu King.

"HLALA PHANSI THOKOZANI" KWAYISHOLO UMNTWANA KAPHINDANGENE 😂

These guys don't have a claim if their claim is motivated by a technical strategy such as adoption

Thokoza is crazy....who was appointed by the state and by an outsider? The Regent Queen MaNtfombi made it clear who to sit on the throne. She was the Great wife from a Royal family. Smakade gang, they have pushed focus to Ramaphosa and Mr Buthelezi. What about the King Zwelithini and Regent Queen MaNtfombi? They think we are fools. Smakade was born out of wedlock, Queen MaNtfombi with kind heart, took him in, only if she knew that Smakade will grow up to be anaconda in her family. Smakade mother remains a girlfriend.

If the king is not appointed by the state, why are they using state institutions to appoint Prince Simakade as king? They must decide whether they are South African or independent Zulu kingdom. Not half-half.

This guy is crazy he remains a king it doesn’t mean the decision of the court I removes misuzulu

There is only one king and that is King Misuzulu. This Thokozani is jst out of order may be Smakade promised him something mnxxm

Thokozani and his people shame. Misuzulu is the king of the Zulus. Senior Prince Smakade and his team will continue to enrich the law-firms but they will never will the Zulu nation as a whole. They can win. in court but us Zulu nation we know who is the King. The history tells it all we can't change our grand fathers decision Mr Msweli is not even the part of the Royal family but he is busy calling him self a member royal family. Custom of ukufakwa esiswini is performed when there is no boy child in that house. As senior prince Smakade was affiliated to the kwaKhangela he becomes the youngest son of Indlovukazi he can't be an eldest son while indlovukazi has already had sons only if she didn't have son then Smakade was gonna be the first son but on this situation he can't be the eldest son of the great queen because she already had her sons. Smakade becomes a last born.

The agenda never end 😢

With respect. Who is dividing the Zulu nation? Ramaphosa is not divisive. The statement is premature, unfortunately and sad. We love our Leaders, the Royal family, but some are reckless and not behaving like they should. Sadly 😢

Hebanna Ramaphosa didn't appoint the King but culture appointed King Misuzulu.A king is born and not appointed.Ramaphosa only endorsed a process that had occured through cultural practice.

Why people are blaming Ramaphosa crazy leave him alone crazy South Africans

Nonsense Sir! Rubbish this is a useless interview never bring this man back again. How is Ramaphosa involve here…

Uyadakwa Thokozani

Royal devider. This prince should be ashamed of himself. He is the one who devided Zulus right from the scratch. He never accepted the outcomes of the Royal meeting. Where did he get the mandate to do that. Uyisihlava ewumuntu wasebukhosini obuhlonishwa kangaka. Mana njalo King Misuzulu. You may not accept him as the King, of which, we do. We are fully behind him, Bayede Hlanga lomhlabathi. Bayede Zinyane lamKhosi. Sibuse, usihole, singabakho.

Why Ramaphosa is even considering to review the judgement let the Royal family deal with its matters

NO ONE SHOULD INTERFERE IN ZULU BUSINESS. ITS NOT YOUR PROBLEM. ROYALTY WILL BE ROYALTY. THEY MUST SORT THIS IN HOUSE PROBLEMS AMONG THE ELDERS AND FAMILIES. THATS IT!!! WHO INVOLVED THE COURTS AND LAWYERS AND PRESIDENTS IS A OUTWRIGHT COWARD.

Leave Ramaphosa alone. What happens in Kzn, is exactly what happened in Sekhukhune, Bapedi kingship. Since from 1975 until 2022. The problem is always with the family members. It's sad when they drag people into their disputes. The bottom line is always money. Ramaphosa is a scapegoat. Even in Sekhukhune, they blame. The family is the problem.

Mina ngokwami ukubona akuyiwe eswazini kuyo thengelwa usmakade iswazi ngoba number 1 yalensangu yakwa zulu ayise zwakali kahle kuye inga phela yonke lento yokuthi ehambe egaqela izikhundla akanga belong kuzo nawe baba Thokozani uqhatha izingane umdala kangaka uyadina nawe men yeses ukhohlakele if zingalwa lezingane igazi lazo liyobuzwa ezandleni zakho baba ndini ongena nqondo

There is no way IVEZANDLEBE becomes a KING full stop.

Good day. As has been the trend dating back 500 years, the European settlers have appointed the kings of big African tribes in accordance with their preference. Any heire to the throne who threatened their interests was either kept out of power or killed. Did monopoly capital interests in South Africa approach the current Zulu king during the riots and looting two years ago? Did they request his intervention?

People like to blame Ramaphosa every time crazy

The fact that our traditional matters are now discussed in courts instead of being discussed in the royal house by elders. As a country we are lost. imagine a white judge is looking into this matter, what does a white judge knows about the history of the Zulu's

Smakade is the last born cos was born out of wedlock

The Zulu nation have chosen their king, you and your brother can stay home there and be your own kings in your house live us alone people are going to end up disliking you completely

If the president don't provide leadership you will also blame him for not blessing your favorite king to be tomorrow. He should appeal you put him in this mess😊

Those who are saying the King comes from the bride that was paid by the Zulu Nation. When did that start to be practise? If the culture has not been in practice for nearly 70 years you do not called that Cultue. What we know about the Zulu Kings non of them were born by Princess or paid by the Nation.

Xoli, you need also to bring the lawyer Adv Dobson to give the public the legalities of the judgement and implications thereof

Ramaphosa never does anything without a reason. Being the manipulator that he is he chose not to act as a mediator instead he chose the law which suited him.

It's sad to have a leader who says this and when he woke up and says that.

Does Cyril Ramaphosa have nothing better to do while the country is failing because of his party?

Please refer to him as King Miszilu not a Prince

But the committee which the President will make will still reaffirm what we already know, that is, Misizulu as, the King of Zulus. Investigative committee is just the formality And the earlier the President forms it, the Better

Simakade does not have features of a king.😫

If previous king was appointed in affiliate way in those days there was no one married by the nation there was no other kingdom was involved like these problem

Prince Thokozani Zulu is delusional. He conceded to two crucial determining factors that should taken into account. Then goes on to make it seem as if the custom "yokufakwa esiswini" supersedes being born by the Queen Mother.

Since when ukufakwa esiswini kweza umuntu abemdala kwabazalwa yilowomama it's got nothing to do with that ukuthi azi ukuthi izinto zakhe uzezela kuyiphi indlu kwazise unina usuke engagidanga manje Umntwana udukisa isizwe nje

This chap Thokozani forgets that they were also going to appeal if they lost the case..now the President is exercising his constitutional rights to lodge an appeal...

Uthokozani uyafosa, angazi bebelindeleni ngampela ubukeka ediniwe ngoku appeala kwamongameli.

Ramaphsa is right to appeal and this guy he is not making sense by trying to blame Cyril. The royal family is already divided. It was the leaders of the royal family who told Cyril that Misuzulu is their king. The process of recognising a king by state was not flawed

Simakade will be this mans puppet..That is why he is pushing for him so much

As a good leader you must always be neutral untill the final decision is made available to you to take a decision so ramaphosa enjoys taking sides n think as a president his decision is final hating others

These ppl cant sort out their own issues now they want to blame outsiders please stop it. The zulu Royals need the courts ( Roman Dutch ) to help them ,how pathetic where are African systems ? They knew this day was coming but did nothing.

Lol this man you have been fighting for a long time…

So Simakade was ftraditionally made the adult child of the queen. In Zulu that is done for purposes of him taking over the reins as a next leader. I am clear with this. This is not stupid as many would think. This is how i understand about our cultural laws, are so clever. Sounds like misizulu came 2nd even to his father. I guess if this is true.

RAMAPHOSA as a venda must not involve himself in ZULU NATION AFFAIRS JUST

South Africa wants to be a big player in the global/ international arena. Many children are still dying of malnutrition, unemployment rate is still high, we have the highest income inequality in the world and now we have entertain these guys fighting over our Tax money. These guys only care about their own stomachs and gov..perks that comes with this throne. Cry my beloved country!

This guy his busy saying eeeeeeeeeeee crazy

What I like about Thokozani is starking to answer the questions of the presenter coz he knows the truth.the big problem all thou they work as if they smakade to be the king'bt they know they are not after that their big mission is to callarpse the kingship because of their fathers and forefathers were not kings all eye must be open

Ramaphosa isn’t known for thinking much about the ramifications on anything. Why are you surprised? Vote EFF and you won’t be complaining every day.

Whatever Ramaposa touches turns into disaster

Everything that ranko touches turns black... Ramaphosa has destroyed everything

We already have a King thina.

How did uShaka get the throne from Sigujana? How did he lose it to Dingane and how did it move to Mpande line? The throne has always been fought for. The fact that this is playing out in a Roman Dutch court & seeking remedy there shows that the Kingdom is subject to the constitution and that is the supreme law of the land. The spears & blood letting have made way for constitutionality. Traditions, culture and this and the third if not aligned or in harmony to the constitution will not hold water.

Nothing wrong with mongameli akusiyo inkosi yephepha lo eyohlanga ayivotela yazalwa wena uhlukanisa phakathi uzulu awuhloniphi.

Auwa is not make sure From Mt understanding is that if non of the wives did not come from any royal family the first born of the married wives would take over but if one was from royal family the boy from that woman would be king , they brought the matter to court now they are crying that Ramaphosa is arguing the matter It's Normal ishlalo will be contested for a long time to come

Good questions Xoli, the devided Kwa Zulu Natal Royal House, could or should have resolved the matter amongst themselves not court, and to dethrone King Missizulu, which is the rightful King to the throne, will be a big mistake, and what will happen to R95 Million allocated to the Royal House from Presidency and who will pay committee to investigate?, maybe Tax Player's money?.😭😭😭😭😭😭

Where was Prince Simakade before King Misizulu , this really dent our culture as Abantu abantsundu always fighting for power especial iinkosi neekumkani ziyazalwa why courts in now days,yhooo!!!

One normal Venda boy devides not just a Zulu family but the most powerful Royal family in Africa 😅😅😅 divided by one Venda guy 😂😂😂

uyasibhedela nje lothokozani wenu noma ngabe uramaphosa akangenelelanga noma ngabe ungenelelile akukho okwakuzovimba ingane kamantfombi dlamini zulu ukuthi ibe isilo sebeyacika labantu abalobe befosa uzikhundla okungezona ezabo and to make it worse bonke laba abalobe befuna lesikhundla esikude nabo amavezandlebe osimakade thokozani mbonisi bonke llabo amazalwela khaya engabe bayolwela amafa akomalume babo bahlukane nokulobe bebhibhidla beyisicefe ezweni sokwanele akekho obavimbile vele banalo uhlangothi lwabo ababekane bodwa

Why does the President even have something to do with this? What do politics have to do with the President? TF is going on with our constitution? Why’s it so intrusive?

Simakade and his friends bajikilanga ngabantu abasithukuthezi

Ramaphosa gas already logged an appeal 😢

Smakade will be a prince till he die

I like the way Shaka did his business as being in the know and getting facts it the oldest ladies of wisdom by traditional way back in then to now from south Africa to the top the all respect it with no blood shaded now with all do respect it being going on we can't hide it or fear to be believers of the ones who help the King Shaka we know it no game at all and others grow do to help Africa as a whole others royal family's all in Africa thanks for all the help

Masithandezeleni Amazulu nekumkani uMISIZULU uThixo uthi eli liyelenqe lokuzama ukuchitha isizwe samaZulu, kwaye kukho isandla semfene kubaphathi abaseburhulumenteni abamdaka obagcolileyo .UThixo uthi masithandazeni maAfrica ngenxa kaZULU.

Uyagula uThokozani shame kahambe ayofa

Ramaphosa must stay away

Dala😂sasibeka iSilo thina, 😏...nibezwe😅kodwa ningabalaleli!

I have a problem with Xoli Mngambi the way he conducts interviews where the state or the president is concerned. I mean why couldn't he ask why is it wrong for President Cyril Ramaphosa to appeal when the Simakhade faction took the matter to court. I mean how does the president become part of the Zulu royal squabbles when he's not even a Zulu. If anything Prince Thoko Ani Zulu is guilty of electioneering himself.

As if Zuma was not shockingly inept and corrupt along comes Ramaphosa. South Africa is a failed state in permanent decline.

but the same thokozani is from msweli how is he then a prince......nabantwana bamadikazi bazii nkosi?

As South African m concern government should stop funding this Zulu nation, let it stand on its own, our government should not get involved in traditional things nothing special about Zulu nation they same as other kingship we have all over the country.

Always looking for someone to blame, first it was mangosuthu now Ramaphosa.

Prince Thokozani uthi inkosi ifanele iphume kwakhangela core Zulu royal family bathi umntwana uBuza,yiyo ingonyama,

Money money that's what this two are after, Prince Sma and Prince Tk

Is the Zulu nation paying this Zulu royal family or is it us South Africans and why?.

These are the results of STHEMBU... if it wasnt for king zwelithini's womanising ways , the zulu royal house wouldnt be in this mess...

Bayoze bathi Bhuti 😂

Prince here is confused he says Misuzulu is not a king until the president launches appeal, he literally means court or president that determine who the king is. As far as we know the Zulu ceremony of anointing the king happened long before Ramaphosa could recognise him. Misuzulu was made a king and Coronation ceremony was made a proof

they just wasting their time n money kingship wont change

Ramaposa is just a disaster

If the mother of MisiZulu was paid lobola and married by the Zulu nation then he qualified to be the king.

Hlalaphansi!!!