Next Level Firewood | The VEPAK Firewood Packaging Machine
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@otiselevator7738 2 ай бұрын
A true tin-plated streamlined wonder! 👍⚙️🚂🔥⚡️
@johnrosier1686 5 ай бұрын
This is taking bundles to a mass production level. Kyle isn’t playing around out there. Thanks for video and showing us how this is done.
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it John!
@donmcgimpsey1706 5 ай бұрын
Hi Joe, thanks for the great comments, it is nice you spend such time with your viewers. For this I am going to post another poem crafted by AI: Bag This! In the heart of the forest, where timbers lay, Stands a machine, a marvel by day, A Vepak firewood bagger, proud and fine, With a pneumatic system, a design divine. In a dance of air, it hums and sways, Spiraling logs in a seamless ballet, Gone are the days of labor intense, This mechanical wonder makes all the difference. It's a symphony of efficiency, smooth and keen, Turning chaos into order, so serene, One person now can do the work of five, With this machine, productivity comes alive. Each log is cradled, then gently bagged, No strain, no struggle, spirits unflagged, Time is saved, and efforts halved, In its pneumatic embrace, wood is carefully staged. From dawn till dusk, it tirelessly toils, Transforming wood into lucrative spoils, In the forest's heart, it stands alone, A testament to innovation, skillfully shown. So here's to the Vepak, a true friend in need, A champion of work, in speed and deed, In the world of firewood, it's a shining star, A pneumatic marvel, unsurpassed by far.
@billobermeyer660 5 ай бұрын
Joe, thanks so much for sharing the close up video of this marvelous machine!! With Kyle having done his research and one year under his belt, it won't take him very long to have those machines paid for. He has established a unique situation and has positioned himself for a long successful run in the firewood business. Kudos to Kyle and take some time to catch your breath Joe!
@MKHighCountryFirewood 5 ай бұрын
The universe works in mysterious ways. I truly am blessed.
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Nice post bill! You are always a gentleman! Please stay in touch buddy.
@toddpacheco4748 5 ай бұрын
Joe looks like 👍 you have another great friend in Kyle 😮😊❤
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Kyle is a super nice person. He cares, he is not focused on himself, and he wants to do good for the world. I wish there were more people like him
@jbbrown7907 5 ай бұрын
Even Joe can run this machine.
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
and that is saying something for sure
@woodtimesinthe207 5 ай бұрын
Great video Joe! Thank you!
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Thanks buddy
@elainereid5833 5 ай бұрын
Nice thorough explanation on how the Vepak runs. I saw it briefly on a video from the PB show, now I can better see the workings and engineering aspects. Elaine from the northern end of the Rockies here, wishing Kyle all the very best in his grand vision and ventures. Great video Joe, have a great week.
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Thanks so much Elaine this was a lot of fun to film
@BacktoBob1 5 ай бұрын
That is really fun to watch. Thanks for sharing this Joe!
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Bob! Give me a call sometime
@hondacrm306 5 ай бұрын
First time looking at a mechanised bundler. A nice piece of kit...... Big investment for a business to make👏👏
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching Honda
@lanceharsh7025 5 ай бұрын
Awesome looking machine I truly wish kyle well. Thanks for showing this labor saver. 🤠👍👍👍👍
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching Lance
@OhioHillTopsHobbyFarm 5 ай бұрын
This is a very impressive setup! Thanks for taking us along for this demo. Take care Joe, safe travels!
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching Dave!
@MKHighCountryFirewood 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!!!
@LeBlancfirewood 5 ай бұрын
Saw it run at paul Bunyan. Excellent job showing this machine
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
thanks for watching LeBlanc
@crazyman3157 5 ай бұрын
Joe, you got my gears turning as did Kyle, throw a Japa 405 with the Perfect Split and have the conveyor feeding the loading bin of the Vepak and the bags would be flowing. Almost Non stop production and one heck of setup for production. Steps in the process as it makes business sense and can be justified in the budget. 👍🏻
@MKHighCountryFirewood 5 ай бұрын
Gears turning are good! Link up with me if you have any questions or just want to talk firewood:)
@hanstorehaugland2331 5 ай бұрын
Joe, very nice presentation of the Vepack maschine. Good job! You are doing a fine job beeing a firewood equiment consultan😊 I had a nice call from Ole yesterday about your first video. I must say you are a good teamplayer. Love all your videos.
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
thanks for the nice post. Please tell Ole I said hello!
@MrHelidude 5 ай бұрын
Such a nice video. Greetings to KYLE from Tasmania, Australia
@MKHighCountryFirewood 5 ай бұрын
Greetings!
@MrHelidude 5 ай бұрын
Thank youi @@MKHighCountryFirewood
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the nice comment and supporting us from Tasmania!
@MrHelidude 5 ай бұрын
💙💙💙💙💙💙@@ohiowoodburner
@richardbrowne1679 5 ай бұрын
Good Morning Joe: That is some machine.
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
It sure is rich!
@user-qn6jl4li3c 5 ай бұрын
What I see is the begining of the answer to stacking firewood. Somehow this process needs to be mobile so that it stacks as it goes. Employee of the day, thatsa me!
@daveklein2826 5 ай бұрын
Sweet machine
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
It sure is Dave!
@HortonHill 5 ай бұрын
Amazing!
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Thanks H2
@Growing-Our-Retirement 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting! Might be worth a closer look. We could take bundles into the urban areas and make a bundle. See what I did there. Thanks for showing us something new Joe.
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
haha. A good way to grow your retirement!
@blokerama 7 күн бұрын
Not sure if this has been asked - does the machine 'know' if a piece is under-length or over-length? I suppose they just end up in that hopper area, and keep getting returned there?
@outdoorswithlarryrobin 5 ай бұрын
Hello Joe, That Machine is just to cool! 🪵👍🏼🇺🇸
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
it really is. It is hypnotizing to watch
@robertlivingstone3947 5 ай бұрын
great video joe you dont need one
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
not currently but someday maybe
@frontyardfirewood 5 ай бұрын
What they gonna invent next?? Awesome. Justso cool This is a box wedge guys deam right here.
@philliphall5198 5 ай бұрын
I can see someone taking over the business in a large area with this machine and a Eaton processor
@FrankieG421 5 ай бұрын
No wonder Kyle smiles constantly… He’s banging out $2M a year (probably more) in bagged firewood x 2 machines! You did the math at $5 a bundle let’s be realistic he’s probably getting $8.99-9.99 wholesale and the retailers are selling for $14.99+. INCREDIBLE JOB KYLE… Congrats! and Great Piece Joe!!
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
thanks for the nice comment Frankie!
@dalehammonds9494 5 ай бұрын
It looks fun to run
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
It was. Very satisfying to watch as well
@WoodysRTBFirewood 5 ай бұрын
Hello Joe, if I were a betting man I’d have to say that you are about to transition to bags and 12” firewood. Not sure what the veepack is worth but I’m confident that you’ve been crushing numbers. Cheers Woody !!!!
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Well, I'm not quite in a position to do something like this just now. Someday maybe!
@donmcgimpsey1706 5 ай бұрын
Hi Joe, great video, I have seen the Veepak on some other European firewood channels, I was hoping to see it somewhere here. I know by now I have seen all your videos, way back to the muck farm - and I am more attracted to your videos than I am interested in firewood. It's funny to see how firewood youtubers seem to come together - and in fact, on one day about a week ago - both yourself and Chris (In the Woodyard) each mentioned each other by pure coincidence. I have seen Shreib on your channel and I watch his channel as well. One day - his wood stack tipped over for the second time - so I told him to reach out to OWB for advice ... I told him you stack your wood using a level. Lastly, I am not one to tell people how to run their business, so I will give you a tip, which you can do with as you please - check out Oak Tree Farms (a British channel) and watch a couple of videos... I am sure you will see a few free tips maybe you can use. I won't tell you what to do - but I see growth in your future, and maybe a permanent shelter or equivalent.
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
thanks for the nice post Don. you are a very nice person! I do plan on getting a roof over the Japa but it will take some more planning on my end with the appropriate size and $$. Please keep commenting. I enjoy reading them
@fricknjeep 5 ай бұрын
hi there nice show john
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching John. When you buy one of these let me know. I will stop by and watch!
@fricknjeep 5 ай бұрын
you know me i might make one but i am to cheep to buy one john @@ohiowoodburner
@ishure8849 5 ай бұрын
G'day Joe and Kyle, Now that I've had a closer look at the bagging I can see those locating sleeves would allow any wood splintered or not into the bag 👍.
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching Ish. Is there a big packaged firewood market in Australia?
@ishure8849 5 ай бұрын
I would have to say that it is growing due to fewer people relying on wood as the sole means of cooking and heating more are camping and having a fire on the weekends, a tightening of regulations relating to firewood collection younger people who have lost that connection with wood collection are also considerations to be taken onboard. Service stations big box stores and wood merchants make up the majority of sales 👍.
@TheFirewoodHut 5 ай бұрын
With Kyle being an importer for Vepak; isn't he creating possible competition for his MK High Country business?
@MKHighCountryFirewood 5 ай бұрын
All competition is good
@Riverguide33 5 ай бұрын
Nice vid, Joe. Hope you didn’t freeze with that light jacket! 👍
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Well, I am from Ohio! lol
@davidchester429 5 ай бұрын
This is the great thing about KZfaq and meeting other sellers. So you know how much Kyle pays for his bags now, you have options. You can renegotiate with your suppliers, or cooperate with other guys to buy in scale
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Interesting insight but, no, i dont know what he pays for bags, nor do i know what his wholesale price is. He would have prob told me but i find it none of my business
@Retiredoutdooroldguy 5 ай бұрын
Finally able to leave comments. Nice video. Wondered if uou solved your dump trailer dilemma? Did you try drilling a hole thru the doors and put in a hitch pin with a hair pin clip? Just an idea. Love watching you. Just an old outdoor firewood guy Earl
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Earl! Glad to have you on board. I started stacking the wood across the back doors so there is no wood pressing against them. I am much more relaxed going down the road now!
@joeshaffer2506 5 ай бұрын
Nice to see you out checking out new bundler that would be awesome if your a dealer with multiple accounts what’s the cost on one LOVE SEEING build here
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Joe. I am not sure on the price. Contact Kyle and I'm sure he can speak to you about it
@jakemelgar7591 5 ай бұрын
That is an amazing machine!!! Joe did they change the maximum size from 15-16 inches? When I contacted the company they explained the max size was 15 inches and were working on “ the American standard of 16”.
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
that is my understanding too Jake. 16" is in the works
@jakemelgar7591 5 ай бұрын
@@ohiowoodburner This machine just may make the bundle wood industry extremely competitive!
@foxlake6750 5 ай бұрын
Joe, when are you getting yours ?
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Haha no time soon. I am not in a position to run one of these yet
@HOMELESSAREPEOPLE 5 ай бұрын
Hey, did Bob from Metsa Machines go over to Wolfridge ? Thank you
@nicholascooper1193 5 ай бұрын
I had a customer ask me (industrial automation) to quote a machine similar/same as the Vepak bagger. After pricing the Vepak, it is a good value. They were about $150k at the time.
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
I think the price is cheaper now Nick. Thanks for the comment buddy
@nickfixes 5 ай бұрын
@@ohiowoodburner Even better, I would imagine importing several at once would help pricing. My customer had 5-8 employees bagging by hand with manual tilt barrel baggers, trying to keep up with grocery store/convenience store demand.
@smorefirewood 5 ай бұрын
Pretty slick, My vision doesn't include such a cool machine, or does it? muhahaha
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Haha I know where you can buy one when that day comes LOL
@edrurup8955 5 ай бұрын
Will there be a video of how the logs are processed into the 12” pieces of firewood?
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Sorry I didn't film the processor running. His team was on break during the filming of this
@rodneysweetnam8653 5 ай бұрын
Hi Joe & Kyle - it's Big Rodders in Ireland. Interesting Scandinavian technology on show. Power suppy over here is all 220-240 volt on single phase but I thought in the US of A it is 115 volt. I couldn't figure out how the bags are sealed, which could be a bottleneck in the process. I wonder why the machine doesn't have an integral stitcher to automatically close the bag at the end of each cycle.
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
These bags have a draw string on them. They just cinch them and tie. He is working on new bags with his logo
@MKHighCountryFirewood 5 ай бұрын
They make bags with a drawl push button slide. My next set of bags will have those and my graphics on it, so no tying necessary. I would rather have the machine operator bagging, then sewing bags closed all day.. Also, there is a box chamber for when you want to do boxes. Hello in Ireland Big Rodders!
@Zeke-yv3nw 5 ай бұрын
Thats pretty awesome. Just think, he is preventing wildfires by turning standing dead trees into firewood!
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
I agree. He is doing a great job for a lot of people
@garylaszewski7380 5 ай бұрын
Kyle, In the this video, Joe? indicated you were going to ship firewood nationally. Therefore, I would assume a "kiln" is necessary. A good kiln is ~$140k to $250k. The "Mini Quick" kiln is quite possibly the best for the price you can buy. A chinese 40 foot shipping container "refrigerated/insulated" converted to a kiln with a burner is ~$40k to $50k. You would need several of these to process 1000 semis of logs that are coming. If the wood is already dry, then maybe a couple of hours at 210° would kill any bugs or mold. If you try to dry green wet firewood, you are looking at 4-5 days! Kiln processing will become the "bottleneck" for you! Its technical and tedious, and needs to be babysitted a lot. I think it would be better "not" to ship it nationally! What is your opinion on this?
@MKHighCountryFirewood 5 ай бұрын
Stay tuned in to find out!!!
@dapymp17 5 ай бұрын
How much does it cost to rail hickory from Texas to the top of the country??? Or is it shipped in trucks?? Really want to know please
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
No clue. I hope Kyle can give some upper and lower margins
@haroldanderson2781 5 ай бұрын
I hope you took some measurements for metsa machine to copycat/ build one of their own. Maybe they could send you one to do trial runs.
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
haha. There seems to be a lot of copycatting out there...everything looks alike these days
@JohnFrytag 5 ай бұрын
Great vid….I aint even in the firewood business. (Well except on the Resturant customer side). And I found this interesting. Have a great day!
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching John. There are business implications for all our markets discussed in this vid for sure!
@thecraportheoreos7834 5 ай бұрын
Hey 👋 Joe
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
hey there!
@carlmills5956 5 ай бұрын
I would like to see a one year follow up video
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
i think that would be cool. I'd love to go back if the would have me
@MKHighCountryFirewood 5 ай бұрын
@@ohiowoodburner You’re welcome anytime!! Privileged to be a part of this with you. Truly living the dream
@Adirondack_DFL 5 ай бұрын
Keeping the air supply dry looks like it may be a concern in NY, I'm sure the air is dryer in the high plains. Water in the air would be a disaster in freezing weather. Good compressor system should address the moisture problems.
@MKHighCountryFirewood 5 ай бұрын
You want to release any residual water out of the line after operating w air pressure. Good observation.
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment DLF
@mikegerber5370 5 ай бұрын
Not an issue at all in Ontario here. It does have a moisture trap on it
@devinmoran59 19 күн бұрын
How much
@bwillan 5 ай бұрын
Interesting that he went from a piece work wage model to an hourly model. The piece work wage model certainly leaves the amount of money someone makes entirely in the hands of the worker. From the business owner perspective, I can see that the hourly is better as it becomes a fixed known cost.
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
I think that is a byproduct of the machine being consistent and predictable. Certainly gets your employee's feet off the banana peel
@TheTorkerman 4 ай бұрын
I love this machine, as a one person operation, if you get a customer phone call, need a toilet break, get a delivery etc, just walk away, the machine stops itself. Nice!
@buckinfirewood 5 ай бұрын
How many bags do you need to sell to make this machine worth having say at 5 bucks per .75?
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Certainly a variable number but I believe Kyle feels his is already paid for after one year
@buckinfirewood 5 ай бұрын
@@ohiowoodburner I'm sure it didn't take long after factoring the cost of labor.. 130 bundles compared to 30 per hr is a huge savings.
@geezerindawoods 5 ай бұрын
Wondering how many boilers I would need to run to justify a Vepak? 🤠
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
lol prob a lot!
@traviswood7952 5 ай бұрын
How much does this machine roughly cost?
@MKHighCountryFirewood 5 ай бұрын
Very reasonably priced at $135,000
@MKHighCountryFirewood 5 ай бұрын
Typo$130,000 WOW!
@traviswood7952 5 ай бұрын
@@MKHighCountryFirewoodreally not a bad price. With our pricing for bags and output. At 120 bags an hr as it says can do. The operator will have only about 200 hours on the machine to pay off
@MKHighCountryFirewood 5 ай бұрын
@@traviswood7952 those numbers are based on a 1.5 ft.³ bag. I do .75 so I get double that a minute.
@garylaszewski7380 5 ай бұрын
Joe, Your videos are exceptional, including this one. The VEPAK machine appears to be strictly a big leagues only operation. We are way beyond the "$875 Amish bundling machine" here! It is hard for me to imagine "how few" of the average bundling people could afford/justify buying this machine ($130k+ ?). Its not that much for the machine...but everything else you will need to buy. Additionally, you must have a heated building for this machine. (~$60k). The VEPAK wouldnt tolerate snow or freezing rain on it. At the speed it pumps out bundles, you would need an abundance of smaller, dry split wood for its hopper. And, maybe a kiln ($50k for a "do it yourself" unit, or $250k for a Mini Quick professional grade unit. You would also need a market to buy your bundles. As much as I like JAPA processors, a couple of 405's or 435's would be needed. (~$200k to ~$250k). JAPA's dont have heated/cooled cabs! I couldnt imagine working outside in -20 ° farenheit windy winter weather with no cab. (unless it was inside a building using electricity to run the processors). We are talking about another building to house the processors. The logistics are mind boggling. If I have misread whats going on here, please correct me.
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
very good analysis Gary. I would suspect that when an operation is ready to buy a VEPAK that most of the assets you list above would already be in place. Kyle did use this machine outdoors for the first year. I'm not sure what hardships that created w the weather. The Japas do come with electric power so they too could be moved indoors but I agree a cab is necessary
@garylaszewski7380 5 ай бұрын
The only thing I observed, is that if you are short (like Kyle), you dont have to bend over too much to take off the bags filled with wood. If you are a tall person, your back would "kill you" after bending and stooping all day, working on the VEPAK machine. If the machine could be "raised up" a few feet, where you could keep your back straight, it would be better. VEPAK should add a button allowing the operator to raise up or down the entire machine to a comfortable working height.
@barryrountree5517 5 ай бұрын
How much does a machine like that cost?
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
More than a chainsaw but less than a huge processor. LOL. Contact Kyle for updated pricing.
@JohnWinsemius 5 ай бұрын
does yle have a youtube channel ....... Found him on facebook but i don't do face book@@ohiowoodburner
@nickc7320 5 ай бұрын
My dream would be to get a kiln and this bagger. Be a supplier to home depot or Lowe's
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
That is a definite way to make good money Nick
@hoytballard5504 4 ай бұрын
Only if you like waiting a long time to get paid. Better to look at smaller venues.
@stevepatrick8606 5 ай бұрын
Now if they just made a machine that would stack your F-150 and stack at your customer's location!
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
I like the way you think Steve!
@travisdoesfirewood 5 ай бұрын
He sounds like that Grease Monkey guy on YT.
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
never saw him but Kyle is a super cool person
@MKHighCountryFirewood 5 ай бұрын
I’m not sure who the grease monkey guy is either. Lol
@Earthau 5 ай бұрын
WOW, engineers, what can't they make a machine do?
@nickc7320 5 ай бұрын
Make a woman reasonable
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
Great machine to run and buddy
@DanielAtkinsFirewood 5 ай бұрын
Honorary Employee of the Month sticker?? 🤣🤣 guess when it's your time to see me, i get a sticker too and not a shirt 🤣🤣
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
You really have to go beyond and above to be considered Dan!!!!!
@jimalspach8528 5 ай бұрын
Don't even need a chainsaw!
@ohiowoodburner 5 ай бұрын
very true. Great business model
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