Are you getting dislike botted?, why are these athiests to angry with you.

@@99range92def Because these ignorant people vote and control the rest of us to live by their evil backward rules. It's our duty to stop ignorance. We don't want to bring children into a religious reality.

@@99range92def Yes, there definitely seems to be some bot activity, no idea whose behind it, but all are welcome here ❤

@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom Yeah thought so i went through some of your videos saw anywhere from 30-60% dislikes, then some videos had close to 99 % likes.

@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom It's not bots. It's people like me, who don't like your grift being passed off as reality. Stop feeling sorry for yourself!

We did? He created us sinners knowing we would sin. HE introduced that sin.

"Couldn't God just not create us at all so there wouldn't be this problem?Geeeeze", basically materialists want the cake and eat it too.

Exactly! Beat me to it. We live in a fallen world. We separated ourselves from God. This is no surprise to Christians. That's why we're called to be the salt of the earth.

​@haitaelpastor976 No. He created us pefect with free will and so we wouldn't be slaves in paradise offered a choice to rebel against him. We rebelled and these evil things followed

How did we introduce evil to a world devoid of evil? Isn't something that introduces evil also evil?

This sounds like a powerful therapeutic process. It would only work on one who accepts Christian precepts though. A Muslim would rather place his bundle before Allah. A Buddhist would lay his bundle at the feet of the Buddha...e.t.c.

@@OneTheBlue I believe this was far more than a mere "therapeutic process" because I know for certain that Jesus took my burden and was with me through the last 20 yrs (for reasons I won't go into here) ..... How this "therapeutic process" might work for those of other faiths would be a matter for them, obviously.

​@@cgo225Beautifully put. Blessings ever from Belfast.

Why couldn’t you get some resolution here on earth to the evil that was done to you why listen to someone who says leave it in the hands of God, sorry I don’t understand why you wouldn’t fight for justice

Wow. This helps me so much. Thank you for sharing this gem 💎 with us. Praise be to the God! Writing your testimony down and intend to do the same thing. Thank you.

The bible isn't Christian! .

@@niklar55 Truly seek the truth for why you are alive and you will find it. Can you handle the truth?

he knows, he is simply trying to scandalize you and project.

@@StevesDIYGarage I already have, and it's NOT in the bible! Can YOU handle the truth?

Worshipping anyone except Allah is an unforgivable sin - (Quran 4:48, 4:116). (That means if not repented before dying moment and before death then it's an unforgivable sin). Of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil, until death faces one of them, and he says, "Now have I repented indeed;" nor of those who die rejecting Faith: for them have We prepared a punishment most grievous. - (Quran 4:18). La ilaha illallahu Muhammadar rasulullah - (There is no deity but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah). Allah forgives all sins if anyone repents to him - (Quran 39:53).

The problem is the prophecies of the One to come from God Almighty has to be a descendant of king David. Several prophets stated this. Mohammad was not a descendant of king Davud therefore never was God's chosen messenger. The Koran states Jesus us the Christ. The word means the anointed One. God's chosen. Every time any follower of Mohammed calls Jesus, Christ, they acknowledge Jesus is the only true revelation and messenger of God for He is from God.

Don't worry about religion guys just get on with life morales evolve as well evolve religion has nothing to do with it

@@bertrandruskin3406 May be for that time but Prophet Muhammad is the descendant of Prophet Abraham through Prophet Ismail. If you read both the Quran and the Bible you will get commandments to worship only one Allah creator of everything including Jesus and Muhammad. Indeed the example of Jesus to Allah is like that of Adam. Allah created him from dust then said to him be and he was - (Quran 3:59). But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven nor Jesus but only God. - (Matthew 24:36, Mark 13:32). Only Allah knows the hour - (Quran 7:187, 31:34, etc).

Just because something like theism gives people hope, doesn't mean what they hope for is true and they will find life after death. The justification that Lennox gives for evil existing in the world is shallow and doesn't even really answer the question as to why bad things happen in the world.

So why does human suffering continue? Why did hundreds of millions suffer at the hands of authoritarian regimes in the 20th Century? God died in human form? Big deal. Suffering continued. God hasn’t ended it.

But the Cross was a one off, suffering is still perpetually ongoing.

I don't know, kind of feels exactly the same as remaining distant from our suffering.

No human EVER suffered while knowing they could and would resurrect themselves. He did not become a part of "human suffering" in any way that resembles how WE suffer. When we suffer, we may have no way of ending it, no way of knowing it WILL end, and no way of deciding when and where the suffering will happen at our convenience. God decided when he would suffer, how he would suffer, how long he would suffer, how he would end it, and most importantly, he decided it would NOT have any long-term consequences on him. He was omnipotent before the cross, and he was omnipotent after. He lost nothing. Our suffering costs us in many ways; it reduces our physical abilities, it reduces our mental capacity, it reduces our ability to interact with the world, it takes our loved ones from us, and it ultimately takes our time on earth away from us. God lost NOTHING by posting himself up on a board for a weekend. If He lost nothing, then He didn't suffer much, if at all. He was just inconvenienced for a weekend, at most.

I recently heard someone approach this with this analogy. Imagine a doctor comes in and tells you he’s got good news and bad news. “The bad news is you have cancer,” he says. “The good news is I have it too!” A god willing to suffer what we suffer provides as much comfort as a torturer willing to be tortured as well. It’s a bit demented, but Christians have spun this to be some sort of compassion.

Amen brother.

the fool says...."there is no God".

@@michaelbell6088 and you know this to be a fact 100% lead pipe lock right? no you don’t no one does

@@michaelbell6088Right and you believe we are all a cosmic accident. There are no moral absolutes.. There is no evil or good it’s just a matter of opinion that’s your world

First you must know we don’t die! Yes our bodies die but our souls live on Forever. God loves us and He is NOT Cruel. He is loving and kind. We are here on earth because we Chose to be here. Before you are born you make a choice to come to earth and accept the suffering that will only increase your experiences. Videos of NDEs ( Near Death Experiences) are important, so please read some to learn the Truth. peace & love

Very wise words. 100% coming from Pain. You represent Christianity in real life. GOD bless your loving Heart!

ultrasound causes brain abnormalities in rats. even when "a problem is detected", ultrasounds do not increase chances of success. the most common thing i've heard about ultrasounds is the doctor pointing at one saying "oh, this isn't good, you should have an abortion" and the child perfectly healthy 26 years later. doctor means falsify.

Amen❤❤

Yeah, you can be Job. I will not.

No wounded the man has intrusive thoughts, you’re psycho

Ego is quite a thing. Seems it's difficult for some to get past.

​@@moralityisnotsubjective5 Pride is the source and engine of ego. And it originates with Satan. See The Fall of Lucifer in Isaiah 14 12 -15 12 “How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations! 13 For you have said in your heart: ‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation on the farthest sides of the north; 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.’ 15 Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the Pit.

@@tonymercer7759 There is a reason it's considered the worst sin.

you're so close to getting it

If God didn't exist, neither would we. Nor anything... for that matter.

What is the point of suffering with the existence of God? Does it exist because he enjoys it? Because he cannot prevent it?

​@@dcshelAmen

obviously yes. but what would you expect from a world made by a perfect loving god? and what would you expect from world that came about in a cold uncaring universe?

I love how you see the world. God bless you

Bs you are making an excuse for your incompetent god

“For as the same fire causes gold to glow brightly and chaff to smoke; and under the same flail the straw is beaten small, while the grain is cleansed…….so the same violence of affliction proves, purges, clarifies the good, but damns, ruins, exterminates the wicked.” St Augustine, “The city of God” Written about 413 AD

Sorry for your loss, but your answer doesn't make sense. You said cancer happens. Isn't God more powerful than cancer and all-good, therefore willing to remove cancer?

@@goranmilic442 Do you think all suffering is evil?

He thinks he is being very smart and clever by speaking like that.In fact,it makes him look pathetic.I would not want to be him on judgement day.

You will not get mercy from that murderous, slave sanctioning, controlling, jealous, narcissist. Good job he is only , like all the other gods man made

Don't you think it's THAT reaction you just did, that makes what Stephen Fry said right? You shouldn't need to beg for a so called "Benevolent and all loving God" to show Mercy. What being, on ANY level, in their right mind would WANT to be feared? Fear does NOT equal to Respect and you're not supposed to fear someone or something that is supposed to make you feel safe. It's like parents and their children, if the child fears the parent, the parent has failed in their obligation AS a parent. Your child is meant to love AND respect you. To be brave and someday go forth in their independence, with you knowing they'll be okay, because YOU taught them right...not be afraid of you, cower to you and plead for your better judgement.

@@innerguardianXIII He is spot on about this man made god being a murdering controlling evil thug

@@innerguardianXIII Fear means respect in biblical terms.It does not mean to be frightened.God must be respected as we know He cannot allow sin to be ignored.He must take action against sin.

And yet there are only cope outs to this question like free will (which does not exist) or the higher reasoning of god about evil.

​@@redien4785free will doesn't exist ? Then how are we all not a bunch of hive minded robots ? 🤣 Explain where consciousness comes from

Very much agree.

@@illaxeye43 "free will doesn't exist ?" According to the available evidence, no it does not. " Explain where consciousness comes from" It evolved like anything else biological.

You can tell how pleased Lennox is with himself. He hasn’t really thought deeper than a teenager about God and suffering

Lot offered his daughters sex slaves to group of men! Lot had sex with his daughters! Incest is wrong! Jesus Christ is not coming back!!

@@zarailly why should I hope for an eternity with a god I cannot see? People can, have, and do find purpose in life without any god.

@@bluecat4802 sure, they can live to their own chosen purpose. Anyone can right? but it doesn't prepare you for the next life.

@@zarailly Ah but what I mean is that atheism is not hopeless. Not everyone wants to live forever. As for your other point, the atheist does not believe in a next life.

@@bluecat4802 it's irrelevant to what is true, anyone can make up their own reality and be happy with it

@@zarailly reality is not the argument you are making. My understanding is that we are discussing whether the atheist position is hopeless, and I don’t believe it is.

That sounds like the ending of 1984.

@@meredithgreenslade1965 Unfortunately, the opposite is also true. Many people who have experienced terrible and terminal diseases have lost their faith. They became bitter and walked away from God.

@@vparakhindo you think people who are truly saved can lose their faith? I’d suggest, perhaps, those people never had a true faith and would be met with a response like “I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers.”

Your defence of evil and suffering is sickening. "Hadn't found Christ otherwise.." Appalling!

GOD bless, awesome testimony!! Been through it myself. What gets lost on atheists is this flesh is not the end!

This world is far away from being a divine design: Animal suffering and struggle for survive every single day. Of course thats not because of human sin: Animals existed millions of years before humans came up.

This world is far away from being a divine design: Animal suffering and struggle for survive every single day. Of course thats not because of human sin: Animals existed millions of years before humans came up.

Truly biological machines actually would clamor for justice if they were social creatures that evolved living together in groups. Groups that cooperated and exiled those that violated the rules, would thrive and outcompete those that didn't. Those groups with sets of rules that led to objectively better outcomes would thrive and outcompete those that didn't. If free will is an illusion, and my thoughts are all a result of a prior chain of material events, that does not make my actions and thoughts not mine. My thoughts are still independent in that no one else is having them. Only I experience them. A large part of the prior chain is my individual/independent biology and life experiences.

@Tinesthia would you say that they lead to good outcomes? What if only 1% controlled and decided the way for the other 99%? These outcomes benefit the few and exile the many so to speak. Could this idea be based off of humanities experience throughout history? If so, humanities experience has always held itself to a higher power or powers. And as religions lose following especially in the west we find our lives becoming worse when by all metrics they should be better. As we live longer, we are fed, we have the ability to communicate with anyone in the world, all the information we need at our fingertips. These days average people seem more disenfranchised than ever. It would be interesting if we could use something like suicide rate to measure whether we are more depressed now than before when before religion held more sway.

@@shirleybarrett605 the answer is pray for Stephen Fry.

A very small fry

​​@@paultribbett7765Stephen Fry is an honest thinker, whatever else he may be. I think there's a lot to appreciate here. Better this than the apathy I often feel, and which many live in. He's probably closer to the truth than either of us realize. Keep well :)

There is a reason pride is the worst sin. A sin that can lead to many others.

deep down fry knows these people he recoils at the sight off are just showing his own soul back to him.

Eh I'd argue quite a few of us are like the prodigal brother.

La ilaha illallahu Muhammadar rasulullah - (There is no deity but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah). Worshipping anyone except Allah is an unforgivable sin - (Quran 4:48, 4:116). (That means if not repented before dying moment and before death then it's an unforgivable sin). Of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil, until death faces one of them, and he says, "Now have I repented indeed;" nor of those who die rejecting Faith: for them have We prepared a punishment most grievous. - (Quran 4:18). Allah forgives all sins if anyone repents to him - (Quran 39:53).

singing ‘hallelujah’ for His faithfulness to waken us. Jesus Christ did not come to condemn but to save. ( John 3:17)

You did not

You 'just knew'. Sounds like a lurking, in-built psychological issue. It's not proof of god rofl. You and anyone believing an internal voice is god should get that seen to by a psychologist.

Did you get a lobotomy?

So god create insect that is eating children eye and you are ok with that??

I don't mind atheism but a lot of atheists do mistake a lack of belief in something for enlightenment.

I'm sorry that you were treated that way. I personally have never been treated that way by an atheist, in fact, my atheist friends have been a great comfort to me when I was suffering a number of health issues.

@@bertrandruskin3406 You obviously have led a very sheltered life. Some of the most kind caring people l have met are atheists.

Then you don't know all atheists

@@theovanrossum8652 Then you don’t know all theists. Why do you worship a Murderous slave sanctioning god curious regarding your reasoning

The key word here is ‘imagine’

Very much so. You're missing the part where your God is ALL-POWERFUL, meaning he COULD have found a way to create a peaceful earth without sacrificing free will. He could have...but chose to do it THIS way instead. If I COULD invent a doggy bed that made my dog happy, but I CHOSE to invent a doggy bed that slices him to pieces, what would that tell you about me?

​@@saintmalaclypse3217in the beginning, God created earth and it was perfect. Until the humans created ate of the tree of knowledge and brought sin. God gave us all free will. Anything shitty on earth is mankind's doing. Not God's.

@@saintmalaclypse3217He did.. it seems you want no accountability. God should have done this or that so Adam and Eve could do whatever they want with no consequences/problems! That sounds like a very entitled position. Take take take. God literally gives us EVERYTHING WE NEED and he only asked one thing.. Wow!! Even after thousands of years people still don’t get it!!

@@saintmalaclypse3217 And you're missing the part where human beings, knowing full well from their own experience , nevertheless think fit to bring another child into this world of suffering and death.

@@terrifictomm Beautifully written!

A god that designs suffering would be an evil god

@@reality1958 You missed the point then

@@Bro_Mike_Phil117 how so

Every philosophy and religion worth its salt has some teaching regarding the redemptive and soul purifying nature of suffering, because they all believe this world, this life, is not all there is. I'll bet you've never read, "Man's Search For Meaning," have you? Atheists as a rule tend to be very shallow. It is a Classic and influential book which posits one of mankind's deepest needs is for our lives to have meaning and purpose. Something you new atheists gleefully assert is impossible. But even that arch-atheist Friedrich Nietzsche was self-aware enough to mourn the death of God. Don't worry. There's no Heaven for you to fear entering. No God to meet whom you will judge unworthy of your gaze. The funny thing is, if I'm wrong, I'll never know and if you're right you'll never know either. But if you're wrong and the God of the Gospel exists, how will you be able to stand it? Living for eternity with that searing knowledge? I'm sure you'll be weeping and wailing and gnashing your teeth!

_"The reality is that every single one of us will die. There is no escaping it."_ Not true. Read the Bible and you'll understand.

I don’t believe that. Why escape? You have a Way to be with.

God is something that you should be very afraid of. Just respect isn't enough. Here's something to think about, God hates sin. All of us are wreathed in it. Its in christ that we are taken before the father and are justified by our faith. It's that sole aspect that keeps exacted righteous fury from anyone. Yeah God deserves your respect but also he is your GOD not so simply a friend.

But he's all-knowing, correct? If so (correct me if that's not what you believe), he knew that sin would enter into the world. I'm not sure how you can avoid this dilemma. It's really simple, god can either be all-powerful, or all-loving. It is morally impossible for him to be both (if he exists, that is). If he is all-powerful, he is evil. And if he is all-loving, he isn't all-powerful.

@@bradwillis6591 exactly! It is totally incompatible with the concept of an all loving god! Of course a god does not exist but if such an "entity" would exist in reality it would be a celestial monster! God would have created humans imperfect, knows that "he" made them imperfect, knows before they are born that they will end up in an imaginary hell and does nothing to prevent that from happening! So "he" would punish people for eternity for "his" own bad creation! That's utterly insane! Luckily science and especially evolution have already debunked the crux of christianity and the crux of all the other religions I know of ages ago! And there is not a shred of evidence for the existence of ANY god or Allah or whatever name they gave to their non-existing celestial dictator!

@@donnaallen9863 death, evil, injustice, diseases, and suffering already exist since life began here on this small speck of dust called Earth some 3,5 BILLION years ago! So, LONG before the species of great apes called the Homosapiens came into existence by the unguided process called evolution some two hundred thousand years ago! So, the Homosapiens could not possible be the cause of all that! And pain and suffering is necessary so that we feel when our bodies are in danger! And death is also necessary so that the species can evolve and adapt to the changing environment so that the species can survive! And think of the massive overpopulation if nobody and nothing would die! Life would no longer be possible here on earth!

​@@bradwillis6591consider for a moment, if you will. What's the longest you ever enjoyed something before getting bored of it? Now consider that God calls His people to eternity. That would be boring if not for this: God himself is enough to satisfy for eternity. We know this because he is already eternal and is eternally satisfied in himself. He doesn't need us or our praise to be satisfied. We need him and to praise him for US to be fully satisfied. But only a complete view of the true God can be eternally satisfying. Some aspects of God's character CANNOT be seen or understood by his creation unless it is in contrast with evil. God is a healer, but his people cannot see that if there is no injury nor sickness. God is justice, but we cannot see that if none deserve judgment. God is merciful, but we can't see that if we have not sinned such that we NEED mercy. But ultimately this understanding hinges on one thing, God does NOT love every individual the same. God says "Jacob I loved but Esau I hated." In the book of Psalms it says many times over that God hates the wicked. God does not love every individual person. He loves his people. All people, including his own, are sinners and have done genuinely evil things worthy of His wrath. But God the Father shows mercy to his own people through God the Son dying on our behalf. We owe God a life debt for the evils we have done. That debt can only be paid by us dying, OR by the person to whom we are indebted, forgiving the debt. However... Even if a debt is forgiven, it means the person who held the debt actually eats the cost. Jesus does that when he dies on our behalf. We owe him a life debt. He pays the life debt for us and thereby forgives those who stop trying to pay back the debt and acknowledge that it has been paid already. But if we deny that he's paid our debt then we are still responsible for paying our life debt to Him.

Praying will not do anything.

You are an good example for many by how you reacted to suffering and pain

amen

Amen

@@vibeworldmeta If you saw “truth,” by definition that means you have evidence. What evidence convinced you of the god that you claim exists, existence?

@@EverettVinzant The odds against life coming about by pure chance is a start

@@stevem.5177 There is so much wrong with what you just said. Let me start by asking, how did you determine what the odds of life occurring are? Did you use empirical probability, Bayesian probability, subjective probability, some other method? Second, how do you know it’s pure chance? I didn’t assert that, so who did, where did you get that from?

That’s nice, but provides no comfort to anyone else. As a non-believer I do what I can to help the enslaved.

@@stephenjoseph5265 what do you do to help them?

@@melissaelliott2966 I’m involved in a charity that goes to Eastern Europe to help recovering victims who’ve escaped. I didn’t mean to sound harsh by the way, I’ve seen the suffering first hand and it turned me from my faith in Christ. La Strada International.

@@stephenjoseph5265So do you blame actual humans that cause what you consider “evil” now that you don’t believe in a Creator? If Christ is not real, then why does suffering still exist? The human trafficking never stopped, diseases keep killing babies and children, murder still is happening? Why is that the case? Why didn’t you help African Americans in America who suffered from slavery and Jim Crow instead of Eastern Europe?

Look into the 5 promises we make

That's right he cannot be angry at something that doesn't exist. If god exists it is only in your head.

If the human mind creates God, then what created the human mind?? Randomness and chaos that somehow assembled itself into something as complex as the human brain? Order and design points to an intelligent mind. Why is this so hard to understand??

Sorry but Judgement awaits you

@@grahamdrabble6789 Still waiting for the Great creator of this universe’s answer, oh Great grahamdrabble6789

so what are those atheists babbling about all the time

@joshuatrujillo9621 Asking why bad things happen if there's a God is just as stupid as asking why good things happen if there's no God.

Ok sure, we all suffer because our ancestors thousands of years ago made the mistake of being tempted by the greatest and most skilled deceiver ever, literally the lord of lies. Because of something completely out of our own hands we have to suffer, I can get behind that. I understand the idea of mankind choosing to do evil things, but the thing that gets me is the bad things that are entirely out of human control. Why should a 4 year old girl die screaming in pain and terrified of an incurable disease? I genuinely can't wrap my head around it.

@@kylesparks1826 because that's the curse of sin. Sin brought death to the world. Evil is in ALL of our hearts BECAUSE of the curse of Adam. It's not just our "ancestors." Of course, a child, or anyone, who has to go through that kind of pain is upsetting, and it doesn't seem right. That's because it's not right. Death wasn't in God's plan for us. But it's the reality we live in now. The pain that a child feels is NOTHING to the comfort and absolute GLORY of Jesus when they meet Him. A child may feel pain for a while, but when God calls them home, they are in paradise for eternity. I guarantee you that those who are with God don't remember this life or the pain therein. All I know is that no matter what pain or agony I feel on this earth, it will NEVER compare to the wonders of Heaven.

@@kylesparks1826 Your mother should have swallowed you.

@@joshuatrujillo9621 Sure, but they still felt the pain for a while. If god had a plan for them to come into heaven so young, why not have them go painless and softly? Also, why not let an atheist come into heaven? an atheist that has done everything right as a far as being a good person. Is entirely selfless and caring and contributes greatly to society, and never does wrong onto others. The only thing they have done wrong, is not believe in something that their is no proof of. I grantee you, they will start believing real quick when they get there. I can't imagine someone like that existing in agony for all eternity just because they weren't convinced of something. Just to be clear I'm not trying to be hateful or convert people, I just enjoy civil conversations.

the word "refuse" makes it sound like they know very well that there is a god, but choose to not accept it. No, atheists do not believe in a god, because their epistemology requires reason and evidence in order to believe, not faith or some other way of "knowing". Using the word "refuse" tells me more about your credulity than it does about non-believers.

Kathleen. Yes. Because atheistic epistemology is grounded in nothing more than biological contingency, most of them are captives in Camus’ ontological absurdity with their rebellious adaptation of the Myth of Sisyphus.

How about showing some evidence of a god. Thousands of years and not a shred of evidence. Just fallacious arguments and ancient fairy tales.

​@@tabularasa0606Now this is d problem... When u assume that supernatural things are physical things that can be shown and proven on a way physical things are shown and proven.... U want to know why u only have half evidence of Jesus Christ in ur hands. Its because you've not stepped into the supernatural dais to seek d other half of d answer.... I have hundred percent prove... I can show u half part of that prove which is d physical but it is hard for me to show u d supernatural prove because that is where things get personal and not repetitive... Miracles are not repetitive but their real, it's why we can't test them or prove them but we see throughout our human history that it's always a conversation.... Jesus is human and divine, he is d bridge between the physical and the supernatural.... If u don't look for evidence in both places and expect every evidence on a divine being to be physical, ur wasting ur time.... Faith is the scientific method we use to test the divine.... Not ur microscope and list of scientific books..... Its what we've been trying to tell people for a long time.... U can find God but not with the method ur used to..

You just invoked a moral ought in expecting folks to tell the truth. Does the expectation that folks should tell the truth follow from your worldview? Evidence? impossibility of the contrary is more than enough. The Christian worldview is the only non-self contradictory, justified(good reasons to believe true), worldview with explanatory power for science and human experience such as truth in morality and laws of logic. If you want to replace the Christian worldview with another one, does yours have access to 1.) a source of all knowledge by which you can know things for sure? 2.) Is it free of self-contradictions? 3.) Are there good reasons to believe it is true? 4.) Does it have explanatory power for science(induction), our universe, and human experience? Tell us what your worldview is and we can compare. Examples of worldviews are atheism, materialism, hinduism, buddhism, islam, paganism, etc. Here is a quick example of one worldview comparison: Atomism/materialism: Holds that all is made of atoms, which constantly change, and are extended in space (not universal/everywhere). Matter has the exact *opposite* properties immaterials of universals (ie. laws of logic, truth in morality). Darwinian evolution assumes life already existed (abiogenesis). If we came from Darwinian evolution, we came from a process not aimed at truth. No human tribe has another set of laws of logic; it's so basic, you have to use it to deny its existence. (Laws of logic are: law of non-contradiction, identity, and excluded middle) If atomism is true, it does not follow that we have freedom of choice, making moral choices unintelligible. Induction: that the future will be like the past is the edifice in which science is based on. If all came about from time and chance acting on matter, it does not follow that we should have an orderly universe which allows repeatable experiements for science. It does follow from an orderly Christian God. Christianity has a reason for it; materialism doesn't. No one lives as if atomism is true, nor could it coherently(without self-contradiction), justifiably(good reason to believe) explain(explanatory power) our world and the nature of humans. Usually folks will refuse to list their worldview and say "that's not evidence". Continuing to call Christianity false when human experience and our universe do not follow from one's own worldview is to engage in irrationality. Look at the proverbial ground that your feet are standing on. Does it support what you believe? If not, your beliefs are irrational. Jesus is the way, the *truth*, and the life. To expect folks to tell the truth is a Christian value. Does 'thou shalt not lie' follow from yours? If not, your objection to Christianity is irrational by your own standards. Self refuted.

Why does a god allow the child to die from cancer in the first place?

​@@thefuturist8864cancer is metabolic. And is preventable. God didn't cause cancer, mankind did, so take accountability for the things you do. If you feed your children shit, expect them to get sick. This is your doing, not God's. We have free will.

@@thefuturist8864The Bible tells us that sin entered through Adam yet it also tells us the redemption from that sin was through Jesus. What many fail to see is that Jehovah God has already made the way out … The Bible states that we are awaiting Gods Kingdom to be restored to earth and heal mankind. It’s why Jesus taught to pray for Gods Kingdom to come to EARTH as it is in heaven as what is known as the Lord’s Prayer. So when Gods Kingdom is restored to earth all sickness / corruption/ wickedness /poverty and even death will be done away with… The Bible - The Good news that Jesus preached is beautiful! Matt 5:5 Happy are the mild-tempered, since they will inherit the earth. Psalm 37:11 11 But the meek will possess the earth, And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace. The Bible teaches that those who have died will be resurrected back to earth, families reunited. It’s such a wonderful hope and it shows that God cares and has the solution- which has already been set in motion

"For the Christian and innocent children, suffering will be short lived." Where did you get that? Jesus was asked point-blank what does it take to get into heaven, and he said you have to believe in Him. Children are born with no beliefs, i.e. atheist, so by Jesus own explanation, children go to Hell when they die. I know, I know, your preacher told the made-up garbage about the innocent in Christ, and about you only go to hell if you REJECT God, but that's not Biblical. Jesus said ONLY those who believe in him go to heaven. He made no exceptions for children. Where in the Bible does it does it support your idea that children go to heaven? What is the age range? Why do people waste their kids' time sending them through Sunday school and church if they've already got a free pass? And...here's the scary part: If ALL dead children go to heaven, and if ALL humans WILL suffer here on earth, then...wouldn't the most loving, merciful thing be to end all children and send them straight to your god's loving arms? If not, why not?

​@thefuturist8864 If we're assuming the christian god, then he didn't WANT a world with sickness in the first place. When he made the world, he said "it is good", which meant everything served a purpose for producing life. Death didn't enter into the world until after we decided we wanted to have things our way, and he's not going to give us his perfect will when we refuse it. The fact that he would plan for us to have salvation knowing this, so that we could still be with him is astonishing.

Based on your premise then God allows the physical abuse of children, famine, and wars. And for the world today, whom should we help, the Russians or the Ukrainians in that war?

@@XJarhead360 the common people forgotten by the great powers whose war has left them in dire straights. The orphan and the widow. Russia or Ukraine is a trick question. They are nations and we owe no allegiance to the nations of this world. Why should we align with the murderer in charge of Russia? Or why should we align with the corrupt in charge of Ukraine who took millions in relief funds from the world and then fled while forcing the common man to stay and fight without supplies? There is evil on both sides and innocent on both sides.

It's Gods sense of humor. Once in a while he gets you to actually say " God is great " without you even knowing it so maybe you'll catch on

Beauty all around him but no eyes to see

Frye clearly has atheist confused with anti-theist.

Makes sense if you don’t overthink it.

It isn't wild to an atheist., it's honest and brave

I’ve been thinking about this recently. What if God feels our suffering even more than we do?

Not really. Humanity understood ‘community’ long before Christianity came along.

@@thefuturist8864 Two distinctly different concepts, involving two separate spheres of knowledge. I'm sorry your mind can't grasp the distinctions between them. Or even that there are distinctions between them. Sort of like conflating philosophy with theology.

@@posthawk1393 The Gospel asserts He does; that that is the deepest revelation of Christ dying on the cross. That God Himself because He lives within us, feels both our sufferings and our joys with us, as we live through them. No one suffers alone. He is not just with us, but in us.

This world is far away from being a divine design: Animal suffering and struggle for survive every single day. Of course thats not because of human sin: Animals existed millions of years before humans came up.

Way to wait you can't know now God's perfect plan for you

No, we actually won't. Because we'll be dead. And being dead, you don't learn anything.

If you were created in his image as you claim, why are you not invisible?

@@Deef3lony i can't see him. only his profile pic. can you see him? are you God, omniscient? Cool!

@@Deef3lony I hope you will someday understand

@@ungmd21 Lol there’s nothing to understand this is insanity at best

@@badusername321 oh yes I can be your god 🤷🏾‍♂️. I am responding

I think it’s a great response. I think I’ll use that if someone ever asks me that.

A true Christian answers that question with ease.

So this one single man, Jesus, got himself crucified. Very sad, unfortunate - but is that the best God can do to absolve himself of all the horrific suffering which billions of people have had to endure throughout history, both BC and AD? And please don't say they deserved it because of sin - that's just stupid.

As someone with a genetic illness I wrestled with God for awhile when I was diagnosed. Especially as I do believe he knit me together in my mother's womb as scripture says I had to grapple with the fact that God either intentionally gave me the disease or at the very least allowed it to exist. I can say however that in the long run it has drawn me closer to him rather than pushing me away. Eventually I was able to honestly say to him "I don't know why you allowed this, but I trust you anyway."

@@pcdeltalink036 Thank you for sharing your story. God has big plans for you and I bet He in His power uses this affliction as a way to reach and help people no one else can.

Yes just look at Joni Erickson Tada. She has become such a dear believer because of her suffering. It’s making her like Christ, probably quicker than most of us with less trials.

I hope you’re right 🖤

Amen

@@zzfreddy But he DIDN’T save you, you just said you had colon cancer.

Are you a God denier?​@@EverettVinzant

@@cameroneagle4370 No. I haven’t seen the evidence you MUST have that shows god exists. I’m excited to finally have access to this evidence. When can I expect you to provide it?

​@EverettVinzant I can find evidence that cats are our ultimate rulers, and yet you wouldn't believe me. You have faith in something. You have a god and a religion... you just don't want to see it that way. What I'm saying is that you can only see the truth when you want to see it. People still want to believe biden is a capable president. So whatever lies they need to tell themselves about the opponent and the child sniffer will be believed.

@@EverettVinzant so with all the creation surrounding you , that isn't enough evidence that there is a creator ?

They’ll ask why is their evil, but like the guy says they’ll also say this is just how the world works. Comfort from the world is meaningless and hopeless. True comfort is truly found in Christ.

@regsun7947 12 hours ago (edited) To my mind the thing of Jesus is that he says, "Hey, you're going to go through some really hard times, that's just the nature of life, but I want to be there to help you through it," and I've been helped through so many times it's hard to believe. The possibility of eternal life is the icing on the cake. n0w describe what the first 40 biIIi0n yrs are Iike y0u and every 0ther human being cann0t c0nceive 0f eternity, it is meaningIess c0ncept y0u cann0t even imagine what the span 0f 50000 years feeIs iike s0 wetting y0urseIf 0ver Iiving f0rever is as infantiIe as it s0unds

Except that surviving your death is extremely unlikely given what we know about the dependence of consciousness on the brain

​@@iamnature9 You don't survive your death, you merely move from one spiritual location to the next after death.

@@iamnature9 We KNOW that? No.

@@johndooley8078An atheist wouldn’t, obviously.

But how did god get here? Is god nothing? If not, then what did he come from? If he has always been, then why can’t the universe itself have always been? You say this is your lynch pin “something can’t come from nothing” but you can’t apply it to your own god. Maybe you believe because you want to and not because of any actual fact or reasoning.

Good thing that isn't the alternative

​@@Charon58 God is outside the universe. The univers isn't God. The univers is a creation, so it's created and point towards a Creator. Whare comes God from, you have to figured out. I can't tell you everything. This I tell you God is eternal and outside the created universe.

​@mahonri69 can you provide evidence of your claim. Sounds like bullshit to me.

@@milesmason1343 Matthew 16:4 King James Version (KJV) A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign. What proof do you need/look for? Are you really seeking truth?

If a person is an atheist, he cannot be angry at a entity that he says does not exist. If he is angry with an entity, it is a sign that he acknowledges its existence. Only when a person believes in the existence of God, he has a known address for the blessings as well as for the claims regarding "injustice". so an atheist can not be mad at God.

their anger is tacit admission that they know God is Real.

No one has the free will to live as they wish, scripture states; "a man's steps are not his own" thus clarifying that no one has free will, but to choose to do things by our own will is to reject God's will, Stephen Fry therefore is wrong, he is very, very wrong! but he denies God because he knows in his heart that in recognising God, he would also have to recognise his own guilt and being homosexual imprisons him in his guilt and that's why Stephen Fry lives in denial of God.

​@@normancherry8732 You have shown, how religions can spread hate and make people believe in nonsense. Biblical god is evil monster, so it shouldn't be surprising. But luckly there are believers, who have better morals than you and your god and are able to deny that extremist part of their religion.

Such a silly answer Meanwhile you did die the fact that the only reason people go to hell it because God sends them to hell… If you deny that your simply lying and people like me know not to bother talking to you because you're not going to be honest in the conversation Of course you can even demonstrate that God exists so believing in God is automatically irrational

@@keithziegler8881 Hmmm...I think you have cornered the market on Silly and irrational.. God created us as free will beings. We can choose to acknowledge him, accept him, or not. If we seek him, he will reveal himself. "For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. We choose to be with God or not. He loves us so much he will not over ride your will and force you to be with him for eternity. Hell is the ultimate absence of God. If that's what you want, you will have it. " Frank Turek has excellent arguments for the existence of God, Here's one; The science tells us, All time space and matter appeared form literally Nothing 13.8 billion years ago. Therefore the cause has to be Time less (eternal,) Space less, (infinite, ) and matter less (Spirit,) It also has to be immeasurably powerful, intellectually far above anything we can conceive and personal to have created. These are the attributes of the Biblical God. Add the fine tuning of the universe, DNA which is 100,000 volumes of specified directions, etc... and the evidenced is overwhelming that a mind is behind everything we see. As an atheist you have to believe that absolutely everything in the universe appeared from absolutely nothing for no reason. Talk about irrational!! I don't have enough faith to be an atheist!Another thing that presents a problem for Atheists is the fact that something has to be eternal, either the material universe, or a non material being who created it. We now know that the universe had an absolute beginning, so that leaves us with an eternal non material cause, ie; God. Because some scientists hate what the evidence tells them, they come up with silly hypotheses like "multiple universes," which there is absolutely ZERO evidence for. But even if it were true, there had to be a beginning universe which does not solve the problem of non eternal matter. Now lets see your well reasoned arguments, and I'll be glad to debate you. Just calling people silly and irrational without a well reasoned argument is weak, very intellectually weak.

@@chrisbera7952 “He doesn’t have to worry.” I agree. “God…” This is where you come off the rails. Unless you have evidence for god, everything from this point on is all nonsense, fairy tales, and pretending.

@@EverettVinzant I just laid out the evidence in my post, maybe you don't understand the logic of inference, in regards to the facts of the universe's beginning, or understand the fine tuning of the universe that is impossible by chance, or specified information in our DNA which can only come from a mind. You have to believe that immaterial, non thinking matter created itself and for no reason assembled itself into a rational physical law based universe finely tuned to levels impossible by chance, , THEN, somehow, formed proteins, which then assembled themselves into larger biological units for no reason, then into larger life forms. Ribosomes make proteins in cells, yet Ribosomes are made of protein. You believe that happened by chance. I've laid out some evidence. You just don't like, and or don't have a rebuttal, except for a childish screed. Good luck.

@@chrisbera7952 If you walk into ten bars and ask for a whisky at each bar don't be surprised if you end the evening with ten whiskies.... in other words, in the grand scheme of things we all get what we ask for, but what comfort does the atheist offer to those who suffer and didn't ask for it? God does not send any soul to Hell, by rejecting God these souls send themselves..... The gates of Hell are locked against God from the INSIDE. Imagine being stuck in a place, surrounded by people who believe they answer to no-one except themselves, believing they can do whatever they like steal, kill, rape etc...and you're just like them - and it never ends.... . There's Hell for you, right there.

Yep. That’s what the flood of Noah was lol

It's why I really dislike ardent atheists. They don't want to live by the "rules" but at the same time they want to live in neighbourhoods where everyone else does so they don't get mugged, abused and murdered. The big question is why would you *not* the want there to be a god? Perhaps because you know that you do things that are wrong and don't want to be judged for it? We are all human, we are inherently flawed. That is okay. If one is repentant, God can forgive us in my view.

​@@musicrocks0138 The flood of Noah was to get rid of the nephelim giants.

Good quote, Nevertheless atheïst is inspirerend by the adversary aka Satan

Yes Stephen is so full of vice to not be ok with children dying of bone cancer

"I'm using a quote because it makes for a good argument, when in fact, it does not, but at least I don't have to think and come up with one myself" - Me.

God + devil = zero = good + evil.

maybe cuz that alleged being got to actually know/see/interact with god like a real person... unlike any of us lol

What the fuck has eye-eating worms, earthquakes, rabies, smallpox and periodic droughts, causing massive famines, got to do with free will? And, by the way, you just admitted that God created/allowed evil into his own creation, because otherwise there could be no free will. You say that God was SEVERELY limited in his creative options. Hardly the sign of an omnipotent deity, quite the contrary.

@@ulfingvar1 You may find Christian theories and theology flawed, according to your reasoning, but rest assured, the LORD of whom we speak is flawless, without limit, entirely omnipotent, and quite beyond our present limited understanding.

​@@lilianmcguigan9240 Bunch of claims then you'll go on to explain your god's reasoning.....though you can't understand it 🙄

@@ulfingvar1 Wow, you just hit these people below the belt. BTW, that Lisbon quake in the 1600s (I don't know the exact date) that destroyed much of the city began to question the citizens' faith. Because after all the city's population was very devout. And God hasn't destroyed "Sin City," Las Vegas, Nevada, USA.

@@ulfingvar1 Will Is the Capability To Do Good, As God Created you to do. Freedom Is Responsibility. Free Will Is The Responsibility To Do Good.

He likes to hear his own voice

Like how Yahweh does nothing 😊

​@LeonardoPisano-sn2lp why should he. You don't believe in him so why should he come to the rescue?? He doesn't owe you anything rather YOU owe him EVERYTHING.

@@LeonardoPisano-sn2lp yes, that's a... comeback. Stephen Fry still sucks balls no matter what Yahweh does

@@ogrebirthh That is being a cuck. If your god is all powerful then it is no better than a devil and does OWE us all everything. You need to stop wanting to be a slave.

I mean I probably would be too just as. many of us would if we were hostages and the guy had the gun in our face.

Ha have you ever read The Great Divorce by CS Lewis? Awesome awesome book and shows how maybe this could be.

@Unclenate1000 I never understood the whole "gun to the head" thing. That implies God is forcing you to do something against your will, but he doesn't. He gives you a choice and their consequences. Just like you can study for a test and pass or go out drinking with your friends and fail. The choice is yours and the consequences are what they are.

@@lanazugg-zugg8433 you will love me or else? God wants people to come to him freely? But you will go be tortured forever if you dont. That's not freedom. Is Fear Love? Surely not. Do I accept Jesus as my Lord and savior no but neither do Jews or Muslims. Yet they claim just as much closeness to God as you do. There is contradiction between them. That is a problem.

The atheist who makes that statement only says so because it's purely hypothetical. It is completely reasonable as an atheist to ask 'why' to god when believers ask 'why' on their deathbed.

Good answer

Thank you. Amen. ✌️

J.C. was illiterate enaugh said

Good answer.

Predominantly…Due to childhood indoctrination.

Because we our still broken sinners who need forgivenness for salvation

We are spiritual animals that's why

Because the message left to us from God is a way of life that isn’t like the world thay Stephen fry describes. Stephen fry says God doesn’t exist. So ask him why is this world the way it is if God didn’t created it. God is in heaven they (God) are not on the Earth. Man kind is

Even the ones that were eaten by the insects he created?

This world is far away from being a divine design: Animal suffering and struggle for survive every single day. Of course thats not because of human sin: Animals existed millions of years before humans came up.

GOD'S WORD.... Spoken/shared (only) by Humans for some reason....

@@ichsehsanders Seems there is no god to share his words on his own.

@@user-vm5yk2js6w possibly

And the eye-eating worms still exist, courtesy of God. Go figure..

Well he's not really that brilliant and he's not rational because he believes in God which is irrational from the get go because there is no evidence to support it Also he's engaged in typical apologetics basically making stuff up to excuse the fact that God, according to the Bible, is evil, vile, and cruel He is a xenophobic, homophobic, trans phobic, misogynistic, genocidal, homicidal, sociopathic LUNATIC

But then, how do you get all that in that period of time? What is it you do please, mind sharing?

It is the digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US and abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus

Big thanks to Ms. Chisty Fiore❤️✨💯May God bless Christy Fiore services,she have changed thousands of lives globally

How can I start this digital market, any guidelines and how can I reach out to her?

So nice to see Christy fiore talked about here. Her good works are speaking already, and like wild fire, she's spreading.

If nothing is perfect, how can the world be perfect? You said "God has given us a perfect world, it is up to us to make of it what we will, [...]". You contradict yourself with that one. If the world is perfect we wouldn't need to make it what we will, because "perfection eradicates evolution and self purpose". If God made a perfect world, your self purpose wouldn't exist then, right? You poor thing :(

Do you think that actually happened? Do you think the story of Adam and Eve is historical?

Do you believe in evolution?

@@thelejund7944 So worms burrow into the eyes of children today because someone chose to eat an apple thousands of years ago. And you worship the god that set that rule up?

Adam had no idea what evil was! What free will he really had? Doesn't free will need knowledge of the consequences, and realising the difference between good and evil?

​@@Agade-i1x awww wah wah ! 😢 Crybaby "God gave us a choice and I don't like it" ahh comment 🤣 if he made us all robots he would not be a loving god by giving us a choice God is allowing us to follow him or ourselves. And we followed ourselves. But you forget he sent Jesus Christ to die for us. Nice biased 😂

Thumbs up for understanding free will, most Christians do not understand that. If we didn't have freewill, then the Jews would have never do the things God didn't want them to do.

What the fuck has eye-eating worms, earthquakes, rabies, smallpox and periodic droughts, causing massive famines, got to do with free will?

@@ulfingvar1 So you see sickness and natural disasters as evidence of God, but you presume to judge him? You are a wicked man and you are of this world. Give glory to the one with power over the plagues you cite, or they shall increase a thousand-fold. This decade will see billions die, repent because the kingdom will be here before 10 years elapses.

Free will is a lie of monotheism. Free will has been discussed in the field of philosophy for thousands of years without an answer. Do you think those monotheistic have the answer? Buddha has tell us the truth and your Jesus Christ also learn from buddha. I don't know this god is real or fake but I'm very sure that this god has the emotional same as the human. It can be found in the bible.

Free will is the only way to get an uncorrupted God. We CHOOSE to do good, in spite of how easy we can do evil. Eventually that leads us to our inner divinity to reveal itself. And I don't think our sins are ever forgiven - no one but yourself can truly forgive your self. Our sins are paid for. The Hindus call it Karma. That's my take on it

He can’t be maximally powerful and allow evil tho, without being evil.

Then why don't all evil people get the karma they deserve. In fact a lot of the most evil people have a good life. Karma doesn't work​@@cango5679

@@DM-dk7js Rebelling against God and being disobedient to His Will is basically what evil is. If God did not give us a choice to obey or disobey Him then we would not truly have that freedom. God is not evil because we freely chose to disobey Him

Free will doesn't exist, thats why as a christian you should believe in universalism theory which a lot of early church fathers believed in

@kellowattentertainment absolutely poignant n spot on comment. ✌️

@@kellowattentertainment yes he is evil and he is not your god. He is minor god from some pantheon of middle eastern ancient nation. So clearly he is made up and pagan.

I don't give children cancer. God gives children cancer. That's evil. The status of me being sinful or not says nothing about God being sinful or not. In short, nothing you've said here makes sense.

​@@lies_worth_believing From a biological perspective. For example, If we things that causes cancer cells to develop in our bodies, whichever cancer it is, doesn't matter. That same gene is what we pass to our children so when they are born, they have the same cancerous cells. The child's body is too young to handle those cells, hence the cancer affects them more than it would us who are adults. Some adults may not even feel the effects of cancer, but our children do because they have weaker immune systems. That however is not God giving children cancer. That's purely a result of our choice be we can always choose to eat better.

im more blaming him for the Parasites that Eat childrens eyeballs in africa. Or the small innocent child given terminal cancer. No sane person can look at these things and think they are connected to human sin.

"Evil is the absence of GOD." Nope. You just made that up to justify your opinion. When you need to LIE to spread your beliefs, maybe you should examine your beliefs. EVIL 1a : morally reprehensible : SINFUL, WICKED an evil impulse 1b : arising from actual or imputed bad character or conduct a person of evil reputation 2a archaic : INFERIOR 2b : causing discomfort or repulsion : OFFENSIVE an evil odor 2c : DISAGREEABLE woke late and in an evil temper 3a : causing harm : PERNICIOUS the evil institution of slavery 3b : marked by misfortune : UNLUCKY

So why dont the faithful shake their fists at God for giving children cancer? Maybe they should given that he supposedly listens and responds to the fauthful.

Absolutely Leon.

​@@davegaskell7680it is obviously their God's plan that those kids should have cancer. Best to not question it because they don't have an answer either.

If evil is the absence of God, given that God's ways are always pain, suffering, torture, agony, madness and death... I'd go for Satan the Rebel's way.

Hmmm perhaps get out off the computer and go and lead as a ROLE MODEL to help others instead of telling us all how righteous you are???

And God replies, "In the same place I was when My Son died." So...God was everywhere, as he always is, and that still doesn't answer where he was when we needed him. He says point blank that whatever we ask in his name, we WILL receive. Yet, we still have suffering. That means NO Christian has ever prayed for an end to mankind's suffering, OR God lied, OR the Bible is fiction. Which is it?

So what is your explanation of why god allows children to have cancer, or the worm that burrows through a child's eyes?

​@BaldGeek83 I ignored no such thing. If ANY Christian EVER prayed for something, they would get it, according to Jesus. Yet that isn't what we see.

@@wma5440 Then what is the point of Jesus saying you will get whatever you ask in his name, if what you REALLY get is more pain and suffering? What does that verse mean to you?

Steven Fry imagines he would stand before the God who gave him life and say, "how dare you!?" It is indeed sad. He has brought so much joy into the world through his acting. How many kids with cancer have found relief from their pain through his comedy? Yet it will all be lost, for Steven, when he is in hell for his rebellion.

@@bbgun061 if only God didn't put that tumors in those children...

@@haitaelpastor976 God doesn't put tumors in children...

​@@haitaelpastor976 there's no tumors in heaven though?

This is a *QUESTION FOR EVERYONE* If *you tell your child to do good* but he or she *gets swindled by someone else* to do the opposite, which then *makes his or her life and the lives of his or her children miserable,* In your opinion, *whose fault is it?* Is it your fault? Your child's fault? Or is it the swindler's fault? In my opinion, it is your child's and the swindler's fault. *Your grandchildren didn't do anything,* and yet their lives are being impacted. *Is it your fault when all you do is tell your child to do good things and not bad things?*

Prayer will not work here.

@@friisteching3433 Prayer will not work ever.

Then why do militant atheists want prayer outlawed?

@@summerohara554 you can pray. It just cannot be endoresed by public schools. Would you want satanists "pray" for you, or hear their "prayers"?