Glad to see you're getting better thanks for putting in the effort for us

Oh ok

What happened bro? What accident?

Take care of yourself and get well soon man

@@Czer141 from Twitter he says he hit his head and got a brain injury

Don't you mean the True Sons? Natalya Sokolova has the Black Tusk under her, as she's able to offer 5 black tusk candidates for McManus' Hunter program.

@@alexanderblack8852 True Sons too, I can imagine if Bardon wakes up from his coma and becomes vocal about McManus' plot there will be a divide between the BTSU ranks

@@Whispurer Lucky we get access to BTSU uniforms, then. Even some of their gear sets. But yeah, I can see why some BT operatives would have issues with what McManus is planning. At least, the American ones, anyways.

I wouldn't trust general Anderson he gonna jump ship to the black tusk . Captain Lewis seems like fair guy but I wouldn't get My hope up

@@christiandavis8055 I certainly wouldn't, given how he uses Castillo's situation for propaganda. Granted, Capt. Lewis suggested it, but the decision to do so lies with Gen. Anderson. That, and we'll just have to keep an eye out and guns loaded (or a drone/turret, if you're a skill build).

Also explains why he said "you have no idea what's coming".

It makes more sense why he built ANNA, at least. ISAC is clearly compromised now, since apparently Cal gave Hunters technological know-how to hijack SHD systems. ANNA would be a buffer system, to allow Keener and his Rogues some leeway to avoid being tracked and shutdown by Hunters that can override SHD tech.

I feel like they're Ghosts of the Division world but a nefarious version of them. Lone Wolves mopping loose ends up and employed by the Deep State to make way for a New World Order. Then, once everything is set up, they'll be discarded just like the Division Agents.

Here is what I think... I don't think Keener figured anything out... he just happened to witness something he should not have seen... a meeting or conversation... and I'm guessing its why Lau went rogue and Schaffer defected to the Division... I am convinced he somehow saw something during his time in NCY's Dark Zone... And I think it also adds my suspicions that the true enemy of the country is inside the Division, not Rogue or another hostile element.

What happened to the body though? I just finished the Manhunt with Faye. Has to be extremely convincing to pull off faking her death.

Love this idea

imagine havin the smokescreen gadet the hunters have

That’s a very bold but great idea I’d love that, more freedom to the players definitely and then we’d be taking down real life players who stayed division

infiltrate the hunter program, create your own mask...

& a very SCARY one to decide😶

And how he got that type information if he’s wasn’t lying when broadcasting it to the division? Keener perhaps, there’s no way Theo somehow knows this type of information unless it was from Keener. Faye Lau probably had discovered it too because it started with her curiosity of investigating Keener about what he saying or hiding has true intel or documents of what’s really going on. After her sister’s death, she has to know by playing double agent if what Keener was talking about was true or not.

its possible. Theo was pretty smart. I assume Keener let him have some info

That is what I keep saying... Keener unknowingly found out something during the days before he went Rogue in NYC. I know Keener never figured anything out... he just happened to bear witness to a conversation, a meeting, an ECHO or recording.... something which suddenly "enlightened" him. I truly believe the the Division is the main antagonist of the series... not the Agents per se, but the true director of the organization. After all, all government officials and rich people were evacuated from cities prior to Dark Zones even being put up...

Bigger, fatter, juicer Marlin for me to keep.

And we will hang every, last, mask of theirs on our wall. Eye for an eye. Mask for a watch.

I still hate that they’re bullet sponges, but at least there’s some justification for it…

There is an echo to the left of the White House that has most got the BTSU talking about Kelso....its looking like the Manhunts are setting up for taking the remaining leader's of all the factions

What’s also odd is that Jack’s character model in the manhunt mission is a normal black tusk infantrymen because in the ECHOs, his model is a black tusk engineer. So idk why that happened, maybe because the devs forgot or the manhunt is a little rushed. Or maybe because he had to switch to a new uniform for training in the hunter program and the boss before Jack being Private Conner is wearing Jack’s engineer outfit.

@@xaptor8685 Well even Elijah Sumner was in the echo a tank troop but instead became an assaulter

@@Darkdiablo665 at least the changes in the BTSU in terms of models like Elijah and Petrus were actually good tho, standing out and kinda like similar to Wyvern’s design in the Tidal Basin mission. But kinda underwhelming when giving treatment for Jack Bonney. But the important thing is that Jack Bonney is finally back, being obscured since year 1 and would be the closure to the BTSU.

Yeeeeeesssssss, this was totally unexpected. I'm anticipating our agent becoming rogue to use the Rogue network.

@@AngelsCreed-jo5fp thats quite a jump imo

My guess is with how much resources massive has tied into shipping out Avatar (also a live service) and with the Star Wars project that will kick into full swing after that the logical decision was to restart content development instead of trying to push out division 3.

@@devintariel3769 at some point it becomes too hard to fix all that blended ketchup noodles so they gotta rework the engine from the ground up. Kind of like how Massive had to develop SnowDrop 2 for Div2.

@@AngelsCreed-jo5fp agreed. My hunch is that we will Be given an option to become a hunter

Same here, I’m slowly getting back into the game. I might actually stick around for the next manhunt.

- Kelso gets killed by Natalia Sokolova/McManus while confronting them. --- there are more chances that Manny Ortega will betray The Division - McManus takes over The Division, making it "evil". --- impossible since the players need to have the support JTF so that they feel that we are the good ones - The Hunters become the "SHD Agents". --- hunters either hunt or infiltrate and it is likely that they are already infiltrated in The Division, but this infiltration happened long before the events of the first game since that was when the recruitments ended and therefore the agents were registered in the SHD network. but the point is that his mission is to hunt down rogue agents and active agents. - We (the actual SHD agents) get marked rogue, and we can't use I.S.A.C. anymore. --- the Rogue brand depends on ISAC so to end the current agents they need the button, which if I understand correctly, is something that was lost in the transfer of power from one president to another (Weller to Ellis) and would allow the SHD technology to be turned off of all agents, active and renegade, which would not only leave them defenseless by taking away their greatest advantage, but would also allow Natalia Sokolova's private army to become legitimate - Bardon Scheaffer gets set free by McManus, because he thinks Scheaffer is still on his side. --- there is a posbility that Scheaffer lied to Law and is still working with Miss Sokolova - (In the first mission) We get easily captured (because our skills dont work anymore) and taken to prison (Rikers Island) and interrogated. --- New York will not be the center of the story again, in the first game it was only because it was ground zero where the virus was released and in the DLC because of its relationship with Keaner, but currently there is no SHD node in that city, which which would be vital if they implement "the button". - Scheaffer sets us free and tells us to meet him there and there, if we survive. --- Scheaffer might not be so loyal - When we are at the meeting point, we get surrounded by Rogue Agents. And this is where Scheaffer steps forward, to let us know he has taken over the Rogue "Agency". --- exchanging roles between active agents and Rogues would not make sense if what you want is to continue with the mission and taking into account that ANNA were devised by Keaner and Parnell with the aim of continuing to use SHD technology and that in the dark zone the change of one network to another is already possible, it would not add anything new to change us to Rogue agents

@@CamGutier86 Ok... I see you just full on hate on everything I said😂 More chances that Manny... --- Original... how did you come up with (NGN's) that idea? But alright that could also fit in the story, Manny sets Kelso up to die by McManus/Sokolova. Impossible --- Possible... The Hunters/"SHD agents" can still support the JTF and use them against us "Rogue agents" by just taking over and put in harsh martial laws etc. (We need to expose them for what they are and proof that we arent bad/rogue to gain the trust of the JTF again) Point is that his mission is to hunt down rogue and active agents --- They can still do that, only now (we) the active agents are marked rogue as well...and they as "SHD Agents" hunt Rogue's😉 The rogue brand depends on ISAC --- Doesn't matter, when we get marked rogue we get kicked out of ISAC's network. And we still need to gain acces into the rogue network. (Which is (by then) re-coded/uploaded by Scheaffer/Rhodes into the Hunter/Unknown Network) There is a possibility that he lied to Lau --- Ok Negative Nancy guess what... There is a possibility that he didn't lie😏 New York will not be the centre --- Ohh sorry Yannick...😑 Even if it is like that, it can still start there...and the meeting point somewhere else. Scheaffer might not be so loyal --- Or he might be... ANNA was devised by Keener and Pharnell with the aim... --- This is something Faye Lau was working on (with other Rogue agents/Scheaffer (and eventually/later Rhodes will help as well)) Upload A.N.N.A into the Hunter/Unknown Network. In case if McManus succeed we can still use A.N.N.A. to fight back (without McManus/"The Division" turning off our network (Unless they turn off their own Network as well) And since you like to be smart about it. The DZ doesn't make sense in the game (lore wise) Because the Dark Zone is a "Death Zone" meaning no communications from the outside. Meaning Drones/Turrets (other automated skills) shouldn't even work in there (Rogue or non Rogue). That is also the reason you can go Rogue in there without getting "fired" as a SHD Agent. Because the Drone/Turret Controller in the White House (Who is still helping the non Rogue agent) would see & record an Agent (us) going rogue. So why would we be welcomed back in the White House and not arrested/killed by The Division after going Rogue and kill a colleague in the DZ?🤔 (So if that's possible, other things like my points are possible too) Also, it's a game... not everything has to be perfectly realistic my guy... - Being an engineer (skill build) doesn't make the bullets in your guns less dangerous. - if you shoot 30 bullets into the head of a known criminal (named enemy) they will not keep walking around like nothing happend. - A fence with an advertising board in front of it isn't bullet proof either (DUA mission) Point being: Let's not go into the tiniest detail for a game...

This is a dope concept. I might have to play again.

Bro I’m tryna play this fr

This. Is. 🔥 🔥!! You got a way of getting this concept to them? Like frfr! 😂

You might get your wish. According to data miners on Reddit, one of the last man hunts for this arc is going to take place in the Pentco Nuclear Power Plant. Going to be interesting.

Maybe not all of the factions since most of them are radicals. Probably a joint operation, True Sons and SHD since most of the True Sons are former JTF officers.

@@TheTeletrap But did it really say for a Manhunt? Because it is known that Countdown is getting more difficulties. Meaning it could also just be a "Legendary mode" that has a different approach... Like: The Division VS Rogue's VS Hunters A Mexican Standoff kinda mode, where everyone is fighting eachother. 3 Rounds per game - Laboratory/CoolingTower/Containment - Administration/Reactor/Turbine Or just all 6 places but every time a different route through the map. Sorry that's my imagination going on a run again💪😅👌

@@l3eard sounds cool

@@TheTeletrap link

Thanks mate, appreciate it!

I don’t know if Keener was a generic bad guy. He knew that there was a chance that the Eclipse missile might not even launch but there was always the one thing he needed to ensure works. In this case, Eclipse makes for one hell of a distraction while he field tests ANNA. Satisfied that ANNA is going to perform above his expectations, he activates it for all Division agents regardless if they’re rogue or not to use because ISAC can be fooled. Faye has proven that ISAC is not reliable because the AI changed her status from agent to rogue and back to agent. Also consider this, Keener and the First Wave was screwed over by Ellis and while the JTF were targeted by Keener, I very much doubt that the JTF was the actual target especially since he betrayed Conly, Draguv, and Jakita for either being too fanatical, too tied into crime, or just completely insane. Theo also gets betrayed for being too cowardly and creating too many messes that he refuses to clean up. Now since the SHD is clearly compromised, the only way any of the Division is going to come out on top is if there’s a way to make the truth public. Just think of Keener’s final stand and what he calls you and Kelso. Basically he accuses the blindly loyal Division agents who were already betrayed by their own organization brainwashed idiots in which he’s right. So all in all, I don’t see Keener as a villain. I think he’s a borderline anti hero who was willing to cross the line and just took it too far.

Keener had the entire Second Wave gunning for his ass. A hunter wouldnt have particularly stood out amongst all the other elite geared assholes shooting at him lol

One of his recordings in Div 2 indicates he was being hunted by the Hunters from NYC.

@@Maowka Do you remember which one?

Thanks mate, and good luck to you too. I can only imagine the challenges with a spine injury

@@NGN it was a problem from birth, appriciate for kind words

Yeah that was complete and utter horseshit. Kelso? Really? Remind me again who took down Barret? Or Ferro? Bliss? Ridgeway? Shaw? The Entire Hyena Council? Who's been beating Black Tusk and has a WALL full of Hunter masks Was it too much that our Agent at least get a Fucking voice message to say goodbye?

Our boy retook New York, wasted the leadership for the three D.C factions, has been bullying Black Tusk, has a wall of Hunter masks, stopped Keener from unleashing the apocalypse 2.0 and friggin Kelso is the "Best Agent?" Man that is some bullshit.

@I Fateslinger with chd net not working correctly i believe they can find a way around

thats what a lot of fans have been saying since the first game.

well as it was stated, cant rember by who. "rogue division agents are still doing their job, its just that they're not doing it someone else's way."

It feels like rogue agents at this point are the ones doing the actual job....while the division is running around in circles being fed small bits of info abt the real threat

Facts I discovered this game during the shutdown and I was thinking the same thing when I first played it

I'm glad they chose to keep making content

We already have a disrupt skill, it’s called the Jammer Pulse.

nah, just highly specialized and highly trained. super is a strong word.

With bullets

In the Division 1, Keener's storyline led us to believe he was always looking out for "us" the division agent. His apartment was literally in front of the entrance were we as a player begin our journey through NYC lower. He read the the Division's move, so he had to form his own contingencies (going Rogue and then implementing A.N.N.A) to counteract the real Rogue Agents, and he knew doing bad but necessary things is the only way anyone could stand a chance. (Fact that hunters in Underground and Survival showed us that they sent the super soldier hunters to hunt Division agents.) I'm with Keener and always have been.

@@Relixification Yeah

Iirc, you technically can, but you can only replay the final missions of each Manhunt if you unlock them in the Season 9 reward track.

Definitely and if the leaks r true then I'm definitely looking forward to it

That was after the fact that Lau killed Ellis and framed us for killing him.