Nick ranks Kobe Bryant 6th on his Top 50 Players of the Last 50 Years | NBA

Nick ranks Kobe Bryant 6th on his Top 50 Players of the Last 50 Years | NBA | FIRST THINGS FIRST

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Nick Wright has been slowly rolling out his top 50 NBA stars of the last 50 years, and Kobe Bryant has landed just outside the top 5 at No. 6. Ric Bucher joins First Things First to explain why he's not in agreement of the Los Angeles Lakers legend's placement on Nick's list, and explains why he would rank Kobe higher.
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@FirstThingsFirst Жыл бұрын

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@tumadrechupapinga6252 Жыл бұрын

If Nick is gonna talk about Kobe inefficiency then he better talk about Lebrons Lack of efficiency his whole career when it comes to Defense.

@demontrekunjan4635 Жыл бұрын

They won’t bring up the fact of what that era was that Kobe was playing in because they know that it was an era where everyone was insufficient Because it was a way more defensive league than this one And it was zone basketball which is meant to stop an individual player from getting off Just a bunch of haters on this show for Kobe it’s disgusting go rewatch basketball

@friend1766 Жыл бұрын

Duncan was boring to watch , Kobe was the most skillfull player of all time . At the time when Kobe was playing why was Kobe more the super star and the focus of the NBA but not Duncan. The Spurs were just the Spurs a team but hate him or love Kobe he was the helm of superstar of the NBA just as was Jordan. Why now is Duncan suddenly higher than Kobe. If you commentators really like some one its not ok to feed us with your favourites just because you have access to the broadcasting service. Why dont you carry out a survey in the NBA public vote to let the public decide who the best player was. Kobe was more feared on the basketball court than Duncan and I was not even a fan of the Lakers and Kobe but he is higher than LBJ and Tim Duncan is the joke in this arguement. For crying out loud Shaq was not close to a player Kobe was he could not even shoot a free throw and his game was more like wrestling than basketball. Totally disgusting just people who used size advantage are even considered great players for putting up unfair numbers. On 360 vision talent who is better than Kobe on the level of difficulty of the shots he took and made them. Your boring list is boring us Kobe was the altimate entertainer . On charecter i honestly did not like Kobe but cannot deny his tallent he is second to Jordan only by way of championships.

@Crenshaw_93 Жыл бұрын

Nick go ask duncan who was better

@heirrose1606 Жыл бұрын

Shaq would've won the same 3 in LA w/ McGrady, Vince, Wade, Reggie, Ray, etc...

@Jaccobtw Жыл бұрын

I think the biggest knock on Kobe was his lack of efficiency. But Kobe did play elite defense which often gets overlooked.

@kingcort8073 Жыл бұрын

So did others that played in his era and those before him

@brandenhill8426 Жыл бұрын

Kobe played great defense for like 5 years then coasted and would turn it on. Which is what most good players do to be fair but he was no MJ or Hakeem or even Tim Duncan defensively

@LikeLikeLikeLikeLike Жыл бұрын

Oh for real I didn’t know he shot a low percentage.

@pierrecuffy2125 Жыл бұрын

@@brandenhill8426 so he coasted and made all those all defensive teams. Impressive to me 🤷🏾‍♂️

@vishbegaming Жыл бұрын

@@brandenhill8426 first team all defense 9 times and 12 total selections Kobe was locking up dudes even at 34 years old

@Sutidamuskun Жыл бұрын

Ric got absolutely BODIED 😭😭he shot down stats and THEN shot down INTANGIBLES?? GG dawg

@toledoatkins Жыл бұрын

This was hilarious to watch

@amenx Жыл бұрын

Intangibles outside of the game.

@DiezelFuel08 Жыл бұрын

People fall in love with the drive and determination of Kobe. IMO he has the greatest comeback story in sports history after the ‘03 case all while rising to the top of the league.

@hisservantt8746 Жыл бұрын

Correct

@angel-ij4xv Жыл бұрын

kobe the goat

@armanvranka7520 Жыл бұрын

Beat that shi

@Idonthaveahandke Жыл бұрын

Greatest comeback is jordan retiring to play baseball. Then coming back to win 3 more consecutive rings. Kobe only did that once by the way.

@ItsYurVatoAlex Жыл бұрын

I also loved the redeem team documentary they did and how he was one of the key players that helped USA win gold again, that was a nice comeback story too and I’m glad he was apart of it

@bolo5190 Жыл бұрын

A lot of ppl don't realize if Duncan was not playing in a system in San Antonio for most of his career and he plays on a team with more freestyle play, he more likely would have put up bigger numbers in terms of points and assists specifically and Duncan is one the best passing big man of alltime.

@Ronny_Ron Жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@angel-ij4xv Жыл бұрын

kobe is 2 all time

@oneball1926 Жыл бұрын

Duncan should most certainly be ahead of Kobe.

@oneball1926 Жыл бұрын

@@angel-ij4xv NO

@angel-ij4xv Жыл бұрын

@@oneball1926 please kobe is the goat

@ravinodyab7725 Жыл бұрын

Nick: "you don't want the numbers or the intangibles, what are we allowed to use?" 🤣perfect victory!

@supasav6667 Жыл бұрын

LBJ is the best took kobe 4-5years to avg over 26

@spaceghost4628 Жыл бұрын

Lmfaooooooo facts. Rick was hanging on by a thread 😂

@cooperfrederic3 Жыл бұрын

Numbers don’t always tell the whole story and jus cus Nick said this opinion doesn’t mean anything for the most part anything Nick says about lebron is not bias at all lol

@raymondvankenie3106 Жыл бұрын

If you wanna use numbers that means Lebron still isn’t the best and is arguably top5

@Liyfa_Unpay Жыл бұрын

@@supasav6667 Kobe was playing with Shaq he could have easily average 25 plus stop it 😂

@Boston_CremePie Жыл бұрын

Kobe’s inefficiency comes with the fact that he loves to take shots when he was double or triple teamed. As a Kobe fan, this was also my frustration during his playing days but I can’t complain much. His ability to hit those tough shots also gave his fans plenty of memorable and timeless highlights. He won 5 titles while being one of the best entertainers this league has seen since MJ. All is good.

@erikpuka2627 Жыл бұрын

1. Now Imagine how Good was Jordan and his efficiency in an era where it was even tougher to shoot 50% from the field especially for a 6'5 225 Guard playing that style. 2. Kobes all time stats are impacted negatively by some other factors - not as long of a prime as some other players. He played 20 years. A backup in his first 2 and washed post achilles. So thats about 5-6 years that make his 20 yr career look worse than it was. Lebron has kinda been on his prime and an all star level player every single yr and that efficiency and stats been high every yr. If you isolate Kobes top 13-15 seasons where he was in his prime it would look better - the era was tough in early 2000s - he took many bad shots. Thats on him too though - he had some awful teams post Shaq pre Pau Gasol. Kwame, Luke Walton and Smush Parker was no.2, 3 and 4 in minutes for Lakers one yr. Imagine that for a minute. Same Happened to Lebron in 2015 finals with a 38% percentage. Dude was alone after game 1 and the defense could focus on him more. Its hard to shoot 50% that way. 2007 finals he was 35% as well vs Spurs. Same situation for Lebron playing iso ball. -Kobe was a great shooter imo. Especially from 3. The free throw peecentage is the truest test of how good a shooter actually is. The ultimate truth teller. No wonder Steph is no.1 all time. Can't trick the free throw line. Its the same for everybody. 3. That Being Said - I got Kobe 5th. I just think this FG% stuff is overblown. He could really hit 3s. Imo - better than MJ or Lebron. His mid range game though wasn't as good as MJ (62% from midrange on yr in playoffs). His inside game not as good as MJ or Lebron. His FT game better than MJ slighly and way better than Lbj. Want to find out how well dudes shoot - put them on the free throw line Magic was an amazing FT shooter thiugh. That thing was sure.

@khalxd1991 Жыл бұрын

@@erikpuka2627 it wasnt tougher, the illegal defence made defence way easier for iso players to score on. many actual players and analysts have said this

@Dilly_Dil1y Жыл бұрын

Man I loved watching Kobe play. It was a work of art. Curry has filled in the void.

@erikpuka2627 Жыл бұрын

@@khalxd1991 it was way tougher man. Way tougher. Listen to players who played in both eras. KG for ex. Lebron even. Shaq even. Luka has proven that theory to be true. Its illegal to play defense now PERIOD. The slightest contact is a foul. Lane is wide open. You can't stop people from penetrating now. The thing thats tougher now is playing 1 on 1 defense on an island cause you can't touch anything. Offense never been any easier. You got Westbrook dropping hige stats. Harden even. A washed Kobe put up 60. A washed Jamal Crawford put up 50. An Ancient Wade could do work. Lance Stephenson came out of China and gave dudes bussiness semi washed. Its illegal to play defense now in general

@jonjon5665 Жыл бұрын

I'll add he didn't cheat the fans bc he probably played with more injuries than anyone alltime.

@JacquesSays Жыл бұрын

"I don't want numbers I don't want intangibles I want the eye test... my eyes and only My eyes" - Ric n Skip

@martyg2333 Жыл бұрын

All of these analysts go from one extreme to the other. Some are too stats heavy and some are too intangibles heavy. The answer is somewhere in the middle.

@liambailey1239 Жыл бұрын

He pretty much just said I like Kobe more. Watching him play he seemed better, with literally no argument. how is he even and analyst. He didn't analyze. He just said a statement based on literally nothing.

@ludvigwittgenstein6469 9 ай бұрын

There are plenty of numbers. Go watch Skap Attack :)

@casuallybad7019 3 ай бұрын

@@ludvigwittgenstein6469skap attack is a Kobe meat rider and LeBron detractor. At least offer up a good basketball YT channel that keeps things fair

@troyd366 Жыл бұрын

Clutch time actually isn’t just one shot alone. I thought clutch moments happened within the last 4-5 minutes of a game. Nit picking clutch to one last shot is crazy to me.

@darrylroberts5475 Жыл бұрын

Facts

@AaronMich90 Жыл бұрын

This is the dumbest thing ever so Duncan isn’t clutch cuz he was beating ppl heads in ?

@EricGarcia-fx3xs Жыл бұрын

Lebron still has more. Clutch time is within 2 minutes at the end of the game

@gmailgmail6234 6 ай бұрын

Bron is still more clutch in last 5

@resColts Ай бұрын

@EricGarcia-fx3xs you know who has most career game winners all time with 36? You know how many lebron has?

@SB-ye5oi Жыл бұрын

Amidst all the subjectivity on this topic, let’s just acknowledge the overarching fact - whichever player you have as your goat or whichever players you have in your top 10 - these guys made you feel all types of emotions and made you fall in love with the game of basketball. What makes them great is the ability to fully captivate their audience and forever occupy a place in our memories. Respect to greatness 🤙🏾

@megajackwackstyles6953 Жыл бұрын

Well said man 👍

@toddmiller243 Жыл бұрын

Get off your knees man! Oh..wipe your chin too!

@jaust9077 Жыл бұрын

This is THE COMMENT. too much emotion is involved inn these posts

@Ronny_Ron Жыл бұрын

For sure

@joshuagreene6186 Жыл бұрын

That is a fact 👌

@brendanpackard7094 Жыл бұрын

Nick and Bru - give stats, accomplishments, intangibles to defend their points Ric - “I saw them play”

@omarshafi786 Жыл бұрын

😂😂🤣🤣🤣

@dominiquebrown2890 Жыл бұрын

@@omarshafi786 lol only nerds dont understand that stats dont tell the entire story

@shun8733 Жыл бұрын

And Thts true , westbrooks stats over all will be better than curry’s , but the ppl who watched them play will tell you curry was undoubtedly better than westbrook, but you will have these stat nerds tht look at only stats and bring up numbers , nd we will then say “you had to see it to understand “

@Adam-zy9fv Жыл бұрын

@@shun8733 nah westbrook's efficiency and turnovers are horrible and the stats can tell you he cant shoot. Even looking at stats you can tell curry is much better but yes it does help to watch the games too. That being said its equally as stupid to dismiss all stats just because you "watched them play"

@Zetsword Жыл бұрын

@@shun8733 Westbrook is inaccurate af and the stats say that, wtf you talkin' about?

@Letsgetit611 Жыл бұрын

Kobe 12 times All-Defence (tied most all time). These analysts always forgot that.

@PearlJamGuy10 Жыл бұрын

Except Duncan has the record with 15 selections. I think what you mean is 9 FIRST team selections, most all time tied with MJ Garnett and I think also Gary Payton

@twokidsfromthebronx9844 Жыл бұрын

@@PearlJamGuy10 only KG and Kobe have 9 selections...still tied for 1st.

@PearlJamGuy10 Жыл бұрын

@@twokidsfromthebronx9844 mj has 9... pretty sure payton does too.

@Centure120 Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@Centure120 Жыл бұрын

@@PearlJamGuy10 15???? For defense

@joshuagreene6186 Жыл бұрын

Kobe took more contested deep mid range shots than anyone especially at his time period . He shot a high percentage for someone always so heavily contested. Him shooting so many contested shots made him even more lethal in the playoffs . This is why numbers are bs unless you look at the advanced metrics to the type of shots they were compared to the rest of the nba . I think his effectiveness on tough shot making is ridiculously understated and it's disgusting that they just just look at raw number data . Just like when they said harden is the best isolation player of all time .

@jamjam9564 Жыл бұрын

Nitpicking stats.

@angel-ij4xv Жыл бұрын

kobe the goat

@gsrindictment2547 Жыл бұрын

Ur Words are Like those of the Quran!…💯💯💯

@Godson0771 Жыл бұрын

He took contested shots cuz he was a ballhog 😂😂😂

@Godson0771 Жыл бұрын

Thats also why he was so inefficient lol

@wilkic2 Жыл бұрын

Ric has an average on his takes like a baseball player…

@dougross5289 Жыл бұрын

Kobe went to the finals with Shaq 3 straight times and without Shaq 3 straight times! Kobe is 5 and 7 in the Finals💪 RIP Mamba.

@BrandonClark-StocksPassports Жыл бұрын

Shaq went to finals BEFORE he even joined the Lakers

@stephordless8876 Жыл бұрын

@@BrandonClark-StocksPassports Still didn’t go more times without Kobe like how Kobe went more times without Shaq.

@vensonj Жыл бұрын

Shaq won finals mvp 3 times and league mvp while playing with kobe…no one ever won anything while playing with lebron

@oceanbrown9113 Жыл бұрын

@@vensonj So how many championships would LeBron have if he never left the cavs the first time?

@anthonys9892 Жыл бұрын

Never took a pay cut to win and still ended up with 5

@SuperDG333 Жыл бұрын

Thank you man for speaking up for Kobe and point out things that so many of these analysts overlook when it comes to him.

@spartanrealah2121 Жыл бұрын

These guys are haters what they never mention is that Kobe won all 5 of his titles with a BIG 2 not Big3 LeBron & Duncan both got 1 title each with a big2 the rest are Big3

@atake_plays7784 Жыл бұрын

@@spartanrealah2121 yeah and aging dwade and bosh don’t equal shaq 😂 also ric didn’t make a single point other than that Kobe was better

@danielburdisso1483 Жыл бұрын

@@atake_plays7784 Manu and Tony also don’t equal Shaq

@atake_plays7784 Жыл бұрын

@@danielburdisso1483 thats irrelevant

@danielburdisso1483 Жыл бұрын

@@atake_plays7784 you know i was just adding to your point right? I wasn’t disagreeing with you

@cuatro6456 Жыл бұрын

Nick: We dont use Numbers and Intangibles, what do we use? Rik: Feelings 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

@nexusassoon8367 Жыл бұрын

Context

@demetriusyarborough3096 Жыл бұрын

They embarrassed this man he couldn’t even keep a straight face 😂

@travisblair3189 Жыл бұрын

You're a goof if you think that🤦🏾‍♂️😂

@DFlowetry Жыл бұрын

Nah you tweaking. Ric bucher was cooking them

@travisblair3189 Жыл бұрын

@John Smith Agreed

@nsmith3128 Жыл бұрын

@John Smith Nick and Chris aren't 2000s though. I'd argue people rank Kobe higher now then they did when he was alive. God bless the dead Kobe not top 5

@DFlowetry Жыл бұрын

@@nsmith3128 kobe been top 5 all time since 2011, it has nothing to do with his death

@mrpzpdx Жыл бұрын

Duncan is a great example of high IQ, efficiency and teamwork. One of my favorite players ever.

@b.waynepresents2992 Жыл бұрын

Humility as well. Head down, work hard, team first. Seemingly a great dude and great player.

@distinctga5811 Жыл бұрын

Also look at the quality of the players that came up under him: Ginobli, Parker, Kawhi. His character was of the highest quality.

@gregthegoatostertag8579 Жыл бұрын

And he was better than Kobe

@Cheif_Espada Жыл бұрын

His teammate quality was waaaaay higher

@auntiez4917 Жыл бұрын

@@Cheif_Espada Umm - San Antonio drafted those players. All great players have to play with drafted teammates and help make them better. Great players don't demand trades because they don't have the ability to make teammates better and want "all star" free agent talent to "help them" (i.e. Kobe Bryant and LeBron James).

@jacobsworld9253 Жыл бұрын

Tim vs Kobe is a position paradox. That's like smaller scale version of Kareem vs Jordan.

@MrClebophd Жыл бұрын

There is a clear double standard when comparing different players. LeBron is consistently down-graded because of Heat's loss to Mavs in 2011. However, Kobe and Shaq simply get passes for the 2004 meltdown against the Pistons. Both finals results are excellent examples that teams with good supporting casts win championships, not individual stars.

@rizahawkeye5912 Жыл бұрын

Lebron went from 26ppg to 17ppg in the Finals. He disappeared. He was the clear best player on the team (and in the NBA) but hid under the spotlight making himself the 3rd option. Still, the Heat had 4 players scoring over 10ppg with their big 3 + Mario Chalmers pitching in 11.8ppg. Their big 3 combined for 62.8ppg in the Finals compared with 70.9 in the regular season. The Lakers were not a deep team at all and Karl Malone was injured. The 3rd highest scoring player was Derek Fisher at 6.4ppg. Shaq and Kobe combined for 49.2ppg. This was actually above their regular season average of 45.5ppg. There is no double standard. Lebron had an epic meltdown. Shaq, Kobe & the Lakers were simply outclassed.

@yusxffb Жыл бұрын

the lakers 3 peat though it was unlikely they would would win 4 in a row lebron lost in first appearance in the finals with the heat

@rizahawkeye5912 Жыл бұрын

They had already lost in 2003 in the 2nd round so there was no chance to win 4 in a row.

@MrClebophd Жыл бұрын

@@rizahawkeye5912 Interesting counterpoints. However, your argument assumes that the opposition is constant. It is not. The 2011 Mavs were great defensively, deeper and more experienced. You can say the same argument about the 2004 Lakers. Not very deep, but in contrast, they were more experienced than the Pistons. I still can't see why the explanation "Epic meltdown" is more viable than "Mavs defense adapted to their opponents". Team cohesion takes time, getting the suitable skill set with the supporting cast takes time. In 2012, the Heat got a better supporting cast, and their results improved.

@parkermudsen1063 Жыл бұрын

@@MrClebophd it also helped that they played a young, untested OKC in those finals.

@josephrivera871 Жыл бұрын

Duncan was the system and people use that as a way to detract from him…dude they won 3 in 5 years from 03-07.

@PandainAtlanta Жыл бұрын

They made the WCF too I believe in the years they didn’t win.

@christianabu8447 Жыл бұрын

Exactly..just like steph is THE system at GS and why is that a knock on such players..it takes something unique about your game for a team to build THE system around you..why couldn't kobe be THE system? Cos he couldn't willfully make his teammates better at least early into his career. Overall, Duncan is slightly better than kobe as a player. In terms of competitive will kobe was slightly higher than duncan.

@SkadooJ Жыл бұрын

You hit it on the head!

@mest5621 Жыл бұрын

Never went Back to Back

@briantep458 Жыл бұрын

Duncan is great, but because they never went back to back, they were never seen as dominant. Doing it back to back, or three-peating is immensely more challenging because of the wear and tear on your body. It's the same reason why the Lakers/Heat flamed out in 2021.

@brandonevans664 Жыл бұрын

Broussard: Kobe shot 44% for his career and never shot over 47% for a season with Shaq drawing doubles. Nick: shaq scored 36 a game on 60% shooting for those finals Rick: oh you guys and numbers Lmao what a joke, all Rick cares about are his feelings about these players. He doesn’t like lebron so he isn’t top 5, he does like Kobe so he’s easily top 5.

@Gfhmike Жыл бұрын

That’s what people say wen the numbers don’t support there argument. Some debates are opinion based but we know who’s better immediately wen we compare certain players. The only thing that’s objective is what you like personally

@tigerscott5929 Жыл бұрын

Ric had to pull that card because he knows he’s having his emotional and subjective argument absolutely dumped on

@naliswatson5713 Жыл бұрын

Kobe was being double teamed!!!! What wtf!!!

@GuRuGuy1 Жыл бұрын

Shaq and Lebron lived in the paint so of course their percentages are higher. Steph is at 47 percent for his career and we calling him the greatest shooter of all time. See how numbers can be deceiving.

@Brantley_ZA Жыл бұрын

To be fair that's how most if not all people structure thier lists, then they use numbers to try justify their points. If it's too much of a stretch they let it go.

@donaldseigel4101 Жыл бұрын

Kobe was an incredible player, definitely one of the greats.....but I am freaking amazed that no one is remembering that he had not only Shaq but also Horace Grant, Ron Harper, and Robert Horry on those teams! You cannot tell me the Spurs had a better lineup.

@AngelDay1101 Жыл бұрын

🤣 David Robinson and Tim Duncan Malik Rose Antonio Daniels Avery Johnson Stephen Jackson Speedy Claxton Derek Anderson but ok

@donaldseigel4101 Жыл бұрын

@@AngelDay1101 Your telling me you think the 2001-2003 Spurs had a better team than the 2001 -2003 Lakers?!? What about when the had Karl Malone, Gary Paxton, and Rick Fox?

@AngelDay1101 Жыл бұрын

@@donaldseigel4101 players and team is different. Chemistry

@donaldseigel4101 Жыл бұрын

@@AngelDay1101 C'mon, with Phil Jackson as coach, man that was an all star team. The Lakers swept everyone in 2001. Tim Duncan was a better player, but the Lakers were a better team.

@AngelDay1101 Жыл бұрын

@@donaldseigel4101 really and popavich wasn't already a champ. That 01 team had 3 eventual hall of famers and a defensive stopper in Bruce Bowen. They had Stephen Jackson Tony Parker Malik Rose Steve Smith great team with Robinson and Duncan

@andrewbeck5092 Жыл бұрын

I was surprised at Ricks list. I respect Rick now cuz he shows respect for Kobe. I don’t respect Nick and Chris anymore for not show how great Kobe was in the game

@bicauseofme Жыл бұрын

People don’t give Kobe enough credit for his defense and those 2 finals in 3 years

@pjspointofview1545 Жыл бұрын

3 finals in 3 years 2/3 record

@idontknowhowtojapa Жыл бұрын

people give Kobe too much credit for his defense, he was average defender.

@ColdJelly19 Жыл бұрын

And rebounding🤷🏾‍♂️

@Mj-uz1ng Жыл бұрын

@@idontknowhowtojapa lmao 12 all defense selections but he’s a average defender tell me your a clown without telling me your a clown

@briantep458 Жыл бұрын

seriously like who did he have on those teams? Pau Gasol and a bunch of role players. None of those teams were as stacked as any of the teams you see today. KD Kyrie and Harden CANT EVEN GET TO THE FINALS

@derrickmartinez1895 Жыл бұрын

This was, objectively, one of Nick's best takes. Hate him or not, but Nick roasted Rick B.

@nbatalk714 Жыл бұрын

He cooked him foreal

@Mercurial. Жыл бұрын

Bec he talked 50% of the time and Father Brousaard 30% so there u go. It's the Nick fake Show!

@travisblair3189 Жыл бұрын

ABSOLUTELY FALSE‼️

@martyg2333 Жыл бұрын

I guess we watched a different episode because I saw Nick talk over Rick pretty much the entire time. But I can see why most people would think that's dominating a conversation because there are a lot of morons out there that think he who shouts the loudest wins. Derp.

@fernandoubence4778 Жыл бұрын

I think Rick beat nick wright's argument he took him to school what you talking bout fool facts.

@JC-zk7rt Жыл бұрын

Kobe's skills, style, and competitiveness is so inspiring. Within 10 years from being drafted, he managed to win 3 rings in 3 peat fashion, be the best player in the NBA as a shooting guard, all defensive team 7 year straight, all star team starter for 9 year straight, be the youngest player to start in an all star game while not being a starter as a Laker, dropped 81 pts in a game, outscored a team in 3 quarters, and the face of the league all in one team as a Laker in the tough western conference. When the world watched the 2008 Olympics, they knew who the guy was that Led them to a gold medal..KOBE

@johanholguin6576 Жыл бұрын

Kobe was not the best player in the league during the three peat, he wasn't even the best in his own team until year 9.

@JC-zk7rt Жыл бұрын

@@johanholguin6576 I think he was the best player in 2004 when Shaq was out of shape. He hit the memorable 2 buzzer beaters in Portland, one to force OT and the other to win the game. But I'm with you, he was the best player in year 9. The following year, he scored 81 pts.

@terrystyles3486 Жыл бұрын

@@JC-zk7rt Bleacher report top 50 best NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS/48: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron a better player then Kobe Field goal% LeBron 50.5%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Points scored career LeBron 37,062✔️ Kobe 33,643 Most missed shots in NBA history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 3. Elvin Hayes 13,296 LeBron more points then Kobe Kobe more missed shots then LeBron Total 3pointers made LeBron 2,140✔️ Kobe 1,827 Total Steals career LeBron 2,136✔️ Kobe 1,944 Total Blocks career LeBron 1,041✔️ Kobe 640 Defensive win shares LeBron 75.59✔️ Kobe 50.66 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Pippen 6 rings > Kobe 5 rings so having more team awards rings dont mean better player Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and carried Kobe Bryant to 3 sidekick rings 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series LeBron 16-6 winning record owns Kobe in 22 career meetings Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt and most missed shots in the NBA history isnt even top 10 player all time thats why Bleacher report has him #14

@JC-zk7rt Жыл бұрын

@@terrystyles3486 You do know that average percentages has limitations. Instead of showing us the stats, why don't you tell us what your statistics means? Like why is Lebron so bad at free throws? It's just you, the ball, and the basket. It's been 19 years and he hasn't figured it out. Why do people call him LeFlop, LeAirball, LeBum, LeBrick, LeFraud, LeSweep, LeChoke, LeCrybaby? Hmm 🤔 Kobe brings the game of basketball to life with his skills, artistry, and competitiveness that inspired old school and new school ballers. Kobe was always in the more difficult Western conference. Even Shaq agreed that it was way easier to win in the East. Offense, Defense, & Competitiveness, Kobe over Lebron.

@terrystyles3486 Жыл бұрын

@@JC-zk7rt Most missed shots in NBA history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 Points scored LeBron 37,062✔️ Kobe 33,643 Field goal% LeBron 50.5%✔️ Kobe 44.7% LeBron more points then Kobe Kobe more missed shots then LeBron Only person with brick in they name is Kobrick Bryant with most missed shots in NBA history 14,481 Defensive win shares LeBron 75.59✔️ Kobe 50.66 LeBron better offensively and defensively then Kobe Bleacher report top 50 best NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS/48: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron a better player then Kobe

@pootypotputt Жыл бұрын

No one ever mentions that Kobe has the most all defense selections among guards in the history of the NBA

@aaronmartin1998 Жыл бұрын

Amongst literally everyone

@Coldskin1 Жыл бұрын

too bad pf/c >>>>>>>>guards defensively while guards can make all defense just for being on top seed team

@martyg2333 Жыл бұрын

@@Coldskin1 I disagree, to an extent. I think overall yes Centers tend to be more valuable on the defensive end than guards, but there are those anomalies like Jordan, Pippen, Kobe, D Wade, that in my opinion were just as effective defensively as many great Centers.

@pootypotputt Жыл бұрын

@@martyg2333 facts, look at what kawhi did during his 4 year peak, or what gary payton accomplished during his finals run. They were game changing

@liambailey1239 Жыл бұрын

@@pootypotputt no one talks about them because he shouldnt have won like half of them.

@blessdachef Жыл бұрын

Rick wouldn't take Shaq in his prime over Kode? This is why people make up the eye test.. because you can't argue with a ghost stat "eye test"

@YungLanxx Жыл бұрын

Eye test is essentially “I’m right you’re wrong” based off of biased opinions and trying to force them on others lol

@moisesfigueroa6390 Жыл бұрын

I would take Shaq over any player in their prime ..does that mean he's greater then MJ? Smdh 🤦🏾‍♂️

@malikrevis6896 Жыл бұрын

@@moisesfigueroa6390 me too. Nobody is stopping shaq and i mean nobody literally

@Jeazzy24 Жыл бұрын

@@malikrevis6896 I would never take Shaq over Kobe. Kobe 3 peat with Shaq and Kobe wasn't even in his primes. Soon as Kobe was in his primes he went to 3 straight finals without Shaq. What 3peat did Shaq do when he left Kobe? Don't worry I'll wait

@blessdachef Жыл бұрын

@@moisesfigueroa6390 MJ was great but how many first round picks did he need to make the playoffs? Jordan needed everybody to get old before he made an impact... Shaq is one of one!! Day one team one Orlando to the finals

@ahmedbrown8662 Жыл бұрын

Nobody ever wants to talk about the Olympics. When team USA was getting SMACKED until coach K went and got KOBE...

@jp2timesofficial672 Жыл бұрын

Nobody cares about Olympic basketball 🤣🤣 but I feel you on that definitely remember

@devenmurray3580 Жыл бұрын

The Olympics are a joke.

@kelvinwilkes1050 Жыл бұрын

Who really watches Olympic basketball?

@stilldre247 Жыл бұрын

@Jose Gomez they care when USA loses because they love being miserable

@dextermills8168 Жыл бұрын

That’s a fact . Tim Duncan was on that 04 team that got spanked When Kobe was on it Instant Gold 😭😭💯

@carlanderton3rd Жыл бұрын

11:00 Nick's voice when he says "he left!" Lmao!

@lynnerose7891 Жыл бұрын

As good as Magic was, the key thing is that the very second Kareem retired, the Magic-led Lakers never won another ring. Kobe won with AND without Shaq. Magic never won without Kareem. Kobe Bryant should be Top 5 but not over Duncan, but instead, over Magic.

@hamdanfarooq1140 Жыл бұрын

As good as Kareem was, he was there in the Lakers 6 years before Magic. Never won a chip. Magic comes in, makes them win the title and wins the FMVP. Then goes on to win 4 more. So Kareem also never won a ring without Magic while he was at Lakers and never won a single ring his entire career without arguably the two greatest PG’s of all time (Magic and Oscar). Does that mean Kobe’s better than Kareem too? You can’t nitpick stats bro. Jordan, LeBron, Kareem and Magic are on the Mount Rushmore. As good as Kobe was, he’s on the bottom half of the Top 10.

@seanhennsey2605 Жыл бұрын

He was older and he got them too the finals Jordan was just ready to take the 🔦

@mrbattle2013 Жыл бұрын

kareem was doing nothin before magic came lol

@seanhennsey2605 Жыл бұрын

I'll take it one further Jordan never won without pippen let that sink in

@bricebookman4506 Жыл бұрын

Magic only played a couple of years without Kareem and I feel like he’s underated he played only 12 years and made 9 finals

@tawaganie12 Жыл бұрын

I Saw Kobe And Duncan At The Same Time And I Never For A Second Thought Duncan Was Better Than Kobe

@BrandonClark-StocksPassports Жыл бұрын

1997 - 2005 I take Duncan 2007 - later i take Kobe

@PrincipalSkinner3190 Жыл бұрын

Does anyone think Duncan is better than Kobe outside of these media talking heads? I don't think I've met one lol

@oceaser6977 Жыл бұрын

Nobody did. Duncan benefitted from the better organization and put talent around him consistently. How many future HOFers did TD play with vs the number of future HOFers Kobe played with?

@juniqueish Жыл бұрын

Right nobody ever said Duncan was the best player in the Nba at no point

@kgisabeast Жыл бұрын

I think KG was right there with Duncan, if he had been on those spurs teams he’d have multiple rings as well. Sucks his prime was wasted with terrible teams

@nikaoharbour6962 Жыл бұрын

What part of 8 straight finals don't people get? And as far as Duncan, he's not rated by all because he wasnt flashly

@jasonlyle4113 Жыл бұрын

But see the difference is Lebron was 3-5 in those Finals meanwhile Duncan was 5-1.

@3liteshadwgamer640 Жыл бұрын

Kobe and Duncan played at the same time, and no one ever stated Duncan was as good as Kobe….

@chasingfelix3609 Жыл бұрын

@@3liteshadwgamer640 1. Yes they did and 2. Because people were obsessed with flashy play and Kobe is undeniably the flashier player.

@ap396z Жыл бұрын

@@3liteshadwgamer640 Duncan won 2 league mvps, and led the spurs to 2 championships while Kobe was playing with a top 10 all time player. Duncan was the most boring superstar of all time he never got the respect he deserved

@thebxsavage Жыл бұрын

What part of the "LEAST"ern Conference, as it was known at the time, don't you get? No one respects cake walking past the Hawks and the Paul George/Roy Hibbert Pacers as some holy accomplishment to be held up amongst all-time great achievements

@goodsolonius7305 10 ай бұрын

Idk who that other guy is forgot his name already but he virtually said that his perception and opinion are more definitive, precise and credible than any statistics haha

@TheHarvbinger Жыл бұрын

Shocking the way they downplay how good Pau Gasol was, particularly in 2010.

@josephschmizzo1595 Жыл бұрын

LOL 😂🤣😂

@chito4 Жыл бұрын

Nobody disagrees Pau was a great player. But what people do forget is that before we got Gasol, we already had one of the best records in the league. And that was with essentially the same supporting cast, only key changes were the addition of Fisher and Bynum getting more playing time over Kwame. It was only when Bynum was injured that we traded for Gasol and the rest is history. I ask you this who is downplayed more Gasol or Bosh? In my opinion Bosh was in every way just as great as Gasol, and Lebron had that level of player as a third option.

@josephvertuoso5901 Жыл бұрын

@@chito4 Bosh was definitely better than Gasol. Bosh was the leader on the raptor team.

@josephschmizzo1595 Жыл бұрын

@@chito4 Bosh was better than Gasol bro and that was the sentiment that everyone had at the time. Bosh is a better shooter all around, faster, more athletic and a better defender. Ppl downplay Bosh essentially to bolster the optics of Lebron...

@goku7297 Жыл бұрын

Well except Kobe and Gasol that Lakers team was nothing exceptional...Pieces just worked together

@ea9483 Жыл бұрын

“ Kobe didn’t have that nucleus of having the same head coach & Duncan never had a down year “ but when it comes to Lebron it’s “ he can’t will his team on his own “. Man pick a side.

@johnnyrockets7543 Жыл бұрын

Lol Lebron had mo williams

@manniesupasport7977 Жыл бұрын

@@johnnyrockets7543 You forgot D Wade Bosh Shaq Kyrie K-Love AD Dwight Westbrook Carmelo D-Rose IT Ben Wallace Rondo

@ea9483 Жыл бұрын

@@manniesupasport7977 your awareness is concerning

@bravobessa3684 Жыл бұрын

@@manniesupasport7977 how many of them in their prime, healthy playing at perennial all nba / all star level 1 year of D Wade all nba 3 1 year of AD all nba 2 1 year of Kyrie all nba 3 2 year of CB all star

@fabianmarshall4120 Жыл бұрын

@@manniesupasport7977 go home bruh….this man named Shaq and Drose as star teammates or something oh wait Isaiah Thom……nah bruh said Ben Wallace!!???yooooooo I’m done

@rosseller2045 Жыл бұрын

If ric would have had lebron over kobe then I could at least listen to him. The fact that he doesn't automatically makes all the rest of his opinions suspect.

@memoirsofalegend5472 Жыл бұрын

Kobe>Lebron

@dsworld8721 Жыл бұрын

FT shooting, literally the only thing Kobe did better than LeBron. WTF are ppl talking about lol

@amenx Жыл бұрын

@@dsworld8721 defense too plus shooting outside of 3ft

@oceanbrown9113 Жыл бұрын

@@dsworld8721 So how many games have you watched Kobe play in his prime?

@alexaspelin6806 Жыл бұрын

@@oceanbrown9113 Kobe is my favorite player, I watched a ton of his games laying in my bed when I was younger. I live East and so the games were on late and I would stay up late just to watch Kobe because I love watching him. By 2012 I was forced to admit that lebron was clearly the better overall player, even though Kobe is still my favorite, and if I was old enough to watch mike then maybe he would be. I’ve seen a lot of mikes games and I think he’s obv #1, but I do wish I could have seen them in real time instead of replays on KZfaq But yeah lebron is better than Kobe and if you don’t admit it you are most likely just a hater, which is ok. Sports are meant to have fans cheer for their teams and hate their opponents. But objectively, overall, lebron>Kobe RIP mamba

@s1imegod Жыл бұрын

One thing these analysts don’t tell you is that the finals series during the Lakers 3 peat that they played against cake walk eastern conference teams that really couldn’t deal with Shaq.. the series against Portland & the series against Sacramento.. which were way better opponents than the Nets & 76ers & Pacers ..The Mamba brought those series’ home 🐍

@gifi11 Жыл бұрын

Exactly like how the narrative was Shaq couldn't win the big game. We all just forgot huh lol. First ship, Portland series game 7 the unstoppable Shaq had 18 pts, while a young 21 killer said I got yall and lead one of the best comebacks and play off history. If kobe wouldn't of done that we wouldn't of even went to the finals.

@Cudi8118 Жыл бұрын

Respect to Rick for sticking for Kobe! the Mamba! Because I would take Kobe as well to start a team!

@allstar6576 Жыл бұрын

Have fun 😭 imagine taking a pure scorer that isn’t even efficient, that isn’t a good passer but was a turnover machine lmao

@dextermills8168 Жыл бұрын

@@allstar6576 L take

@allstar6576 Жыл бұрын

@@dextermills8168 saying “L take” shows that your like 15 trying to talk about basketball lmao. Get outta here Johnny you didn’t even watch kobe.

@dextermills8168 Жыл бұрын

@@allstar6576 It’s an L take because you don’t know what you’re talking about . I’m not 15 either but what you said absolutely made no sense & you sound like a big Kobe hater I seen him win all 5 chips . Tim Duncan never repeated ever Kobe did it 3x & 2x respectfully Put some respect on his name

@heels4lifx Жыл бұрын

@@dextermills8168 Kobe is top 10 but the last 4-6 years of his career were useless. It was just stat padding and him chasing Jordan. Duncan was contending for titles when Kobe was missing the playoffs. Back to back is great but I would rather contend for 20 consistently years.

@-95philly23 Жыл бұрын

He said I watched all guys play up close and I’m taking Kobe over everybody

@bangoracowboy1618 Жыл бұрын

Ric Butcher ALWAYS has terrible takes in my opinion. Everyone else I agree with but Ric it's like "What? How is this man still here?"

@ian-th7rd Жыл бұрын

The worst of them all including Skip

@KeefChief_ Жыл бұрын

He was wrong using his own metrics… Lebron undoubtedly wins any eye test against Kobe Bryant, and Tim Duncan’s resume literally equals Kobe’s resume IN THE SAME EXACT ERA.

@oceanbrown9113 Жыл бұрын

@@KeefChief_ If that’s true then why have most nba players that played against both of them, say Kobe is better

@smerktyg9888 Жыл бұрын

No fr tho lol

@T2Runner Жыл бұрын

It is his opinion. Doesn't make it fact. Also, I agree with him that Kobe is in the top 5. Again, my opinion, and everyone else has theirs. However, MJ is my favorite of all time and also who I consider the GOAT.

@mrjulez6252 Жыл бұрын

I love we how touch on Kobe's shooting % and efficiency when we forget how many possessions Kobe had to throw up end of shot clock prayers bc he had teammates doing nothing with the ball. Off-ball movement was lacking, Kobe knew it and more than often had to throw up double team Think about how much you hate it when a co-worker doesn't pull his weight. How frustrating that is. How many teammate interviews where they state " I would just be "stuck" watching Kobe". That's how great the man was.

@hardwoodthought1213 Жыл бұрын

Complete lies, he played in the triangle, if dudes didn’t move they’d be benched Kobe routinely refused to pass to the open man

@Mercurial. 8 ай бұрын

Not only that. The triangle is sculptured for a big in the post but in the last 5-7 sec for a guard with INTANGIBLE GREATNESS such as MJ and Kobe. For that u need Clutch gene and guts to create ur own shot at the HIGHEST LEVEL.

@Q.B.2.L.B. 3 ай бұрын

Kobe DOMINATED the slowest paced, most aggressively played defensive era in NBA history....

@joshsigala53 Жыл бұрын

“What you don’t want the numbers OR the intangibles?!?” classic Nick

@damienruzco Жыл бұрын

Soon as Rick said that I’m like oh boy nick bout to go offff

@Youngnice314 Жыл бұрын

Yeah Rick was all over the place and Nick and Chris came with the Heat. Rick just like Kobe better. Which is his choice

@jermainee26 Жыл бұрын

Rick is a LeBron Hater but also a Analyst that Has The “You Had To Be There” mindset or he changes the Standards to Help his Debate

@Youngnice314 Жыл бұрын

@@jermainee26 Facts

@PAGoldenglovechamp06 Жыл бұрын

Nick is a nerd that never played the game and nerds don’t get to set the standards of what makes a great player FOH.

@brothercoop2509 Жыл бұрын

They forgetting Kobe went to the finals 3 in a row w out Shaq

@wilwelaltijd Жыл бұрын

I must correct myself. I said it wasn’t educational. But I did learn one thing from Rick. In sport you use the numbers as facts so you can measure success. Rick argument is that you should ignore the stats and go by who you like more. This one is gold. The ridiculousness is reaching unbelievable heights 😂😂😂😂

@Ironsharpensiron73 Жыл бұрын

I love it Rick. That's why my name is Rick. Its Kobe for LIFE!!! I saw him on TV. You saw him in person and its final!!!

@radudley28 Жыл бұрын

Nick fails to realize Kobe was nba all defense 12 times and 9 times first team defense. That's more than any other guard and second all time.

@cobi2502 Жыл бұрын

Yes the Media just wanted Kobe's name to be recognized to the point they put him over defensive specialist Ron Artest. Is anyone actually going to believe that Kobe is a better defender than Ron Artest?

@tblack6296 Жыл бұрын

It's funny how Nick doesn't mention how Kobe beat Duncan in the playoffs to those Lakers and Spurs battle were great.

@joshboy438 Жыл бұрын

Kobe has a winning record vs Duncan lol

@Lonewolf_665 Жыл бұрын

@@joshboy438 yeah, with shaq. Only beat duncan once when he was the man.

@joshboy438 Жыл бұрын

@@Lonewolf_665 how many times Duncan beat Kobe ?

@nexusassoon8367 Жыл бұрын

@@Lonewolf_665 Kobe was the man then too ... He carried the team through those series against the Spurs.

@LordAxiom- Жыл бұрын

Kobe also dunked on Tim 4 times in his career and Tim failed to avg 20PPG 10 years in his career.

@jordanyin9828 Жыл бұрын

Kobe had an arsenal of moves and shots, and was guarding your best player. One vs One, Kobe wins! Magic said Kobe is the best Laker. Shaq said it too! LeBron was interviewed saying Kobe was better than him. Kobe killed the Spurs almost every time they played against each other. Not to mention these guys saying Kobe Goat... Iverson McGrady Billups

@terrystyles3486 Жыл бұрын

Bleacher report top 50 best NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS/48: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron a better player then Kobe Field goal% LeBron 50.5%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Points scored career LeBron 37,062✔️ Kobe 33,643 Most missed shots in NBA history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 3. Elvin Hayes 13,296 LeBron more points then Kobe Kobe more missed shots then LeBron Total 3pointers made LeBron 2,140✔️ Kobe 1,827 Total Steals career LeBron 2,136✔️ Kobe 1,944 Total Blocks career LeBron 1,041✔️ Kobe 640 Defensive win shares LeBron 75.59✔️ Kobe 50.66 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Pippen 6 rings > Kobe 5 rings so having more team awards rings dont mean better player Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and carried Kobe Bryant to 3 sidekick rings 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series LeBron 16-6 winning record owns Kobe in 22 career meetings Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt and most missed shots in the NBA history isnt even top 10 player all time thats why Bleacher report has him #14

@AlwaysEwok Жыл бұрын

You could see when Rick realised they got him by his reaction to the Kobe efficiency thing😂😂

@Rich-km7pr 2 ай бұрын

Efficiency this, efficiency that....Kobe was efficient when it mattered the most and that's the NBA finals. Can't say the same for LeBron.

@AlwaysEwok 2 ай бұрын

@@Rich-km7pr Kobes 7 finals appearances: 23/5/5 on 41% Kobes 4 finals when he wasn’t young and with prime shaq: 27/5/5 on 40% Lebron 10 finals appearances: 28/10/8 on 48% including his young one🤷‍♂️

@Rich-km7pr 2 ай бұрын

@@AlwaysEwok Kobe 5 finals wins, 2 loses. LeBron a choking 4-6 Finals record. Took him basically a decade and a super team to win his 1st ring.🤷🏾‍♂

@richboyjullianhicks6604 Жыл бұрын

Who beat more 50+ win teams in the playoffs than Kobe, made more three pointers in a game, scored more points in a game, and also made more than 12 all defensive teams, 🤔 please inform me

@crazytrain111 Жыл бұрын

All of those things are reason Kobe is top 8 all time

@fabianmarshall4120 Жыл бұрын

Huh??? More 3s in a game?? Didn’t Klay Steph and jr smith all shoot as many and more 3s in a game?? Beat 50 win teams?? So he beat teams that did good in the regular season?? That’s what you are supposed to do in the playoffs and he did some of that with Shaq. Kobe’s an animal but those were bad examples. His first team all defenses over Lebron or the stretch where he was asked to pass and averaged a double double the last 3 months of the season was fire. He could do more but chose to be the player he was. Cerebral and defended any star player from Jordan to Bron to Durant to Steph.

@briantep458 Жыл бұрын

Kobe went to less finals because he played in the West which was notoriously more difficult than the East

@atlien1988 Жыл бұрын

@@fabianmarshall4120 Yes, but he played and beat more 50-win teams than anyone in NBA history. The only player that really comes close is Jordan. LeBron is approaching, but is still behind. That's not something you just brush off as insignificant. People always say Kobe had Shaq (not vice versa) and forgets that he did all of that with Pau Gasol as the next best teammate from 2008-2010 playoffs. He played more 50-win teams in that span than Magic did in his entire 13 year career. That obviously meant that Kobe repeatedly faced the most consistently competitive teams thoroughout his career. As great as Magic, Kareem, LeBron, etc were/are, they didn't face nearly as many competitive teams consistently. It was times they only faced one 50-win team throughout the entire conference playoffs run and another in the Finals.

@fabianmarshall4120 Жыл бұрын

@@atlien1988 it’s decent to do that I never said brushed it off it’s just the most minimum way to talk about the greatness of Kobe. 50 win team in 09-10 when Lebron was by himself the heat had fell off from their chip and it was only laker Celtics and spurs vying for anything. By most 50 win teams what do you mean?? In a run to the finals or over some years?? In one run impressive but that’s 1 run not enough. You’re on another post debating Kobe with me and I’m defending his shot taking on there saying he was by himself so you just want to argue

@matthewgardner8479 Жыл бұрын

The fact that Ric's whole argument got diminished to "I know what I saw" was sad to watch

@UTNatlChamps Жыл бұрын

It was one of the most pathetic things anyone has said on television regarding basketball.

@mightymidget7181 Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@jbcfamily4802 Жыл бұрын

1. Jordan 2. LeBron 3. Kareem 4. Magic 5. Duncan 6. Kobe 7. Bird 8. Shaq 9. Steph 10. Hakeem

@seena96 Жыл бұрын

Kobe is grossly underrated, Jesus Christ.

@ronduece9066 Жыл бұрын

I agree with Nick on this one. Tim Duncan wasn't in the Spurs system. He WAS the system

@thisisnotmyname8766 Жыл бұрын

I don’t like that argument either. Why bring others down to elevate others? Spurs were a great dynasty. Manu and Parker played a huge role in that as well, their stats don’t do them justice but if you watched them play you knew just how valuable they were to those championship teams.

@1YpsiBoi Жыл бұрын

Playing with hall of famers his entire career would be easier

@ultimateyagerman Жыл бұрын

@@1YpsiBoi he made them HoFers bub 🥱

@ultimateyagerman Жыл бұрын

@@thisisnotmyname8766 yeah they were, but you aint building a roster around a Parker or Ginobili They aren't anyone's #40 pick on any mock draft They're basically ringless journeymen without Timmy and Pop. They're like Draymond but better. Yeah it was nice having them, but they weren't irreplaceable

@alejandrog4445 Жыл бұрын

The Spurs system had 67 wins in 2016 relying on a young Kawhi’s two-way play and decent contributions from the others. They were starters except for Manu, but nothing more. Kawhi had yet to make his huge leap and become a superstar (2017, 2019). They still made the playoffs when Kawhi left with virtually no star talent. The Spurs system was a real thing whether you like it or not

@TheLz34 Жыл бұрын

I think a lot of people forget that without Kobe the Lakers vs Pacers finals goes 7 games. Shaq fouled out in OT of Game 4 and it was 100% Kobe who won that game for LA and kept that series from being tied 2-2 back when game 5 would have been at Indy and the Pacers realistically could have taken a 3-2 lead and only need to steal one of the last two at LA.

@nexusassoon8367 Жыл бұрын

... And that he was also injured at the time

@Santiago4three Жыл бұрын

But Nick said they ddnt need a closer 😐😐🤣

@alexxallert412 Жыл бұрын

Nick Wright literally lied on tv 😂😂😂🤦🏾

@Michael-tc1dm 11 ай бұрын

Without Shaq the Lakers dont even get out of the first round.

@josephschmizzo1595 Жыл бұрын

Steve Nash has one more MVP, was a better passer than Kobe and was more efficient than Kobe and nobody in the cosmos thinks that Steve Nash was a better player than Kobe. Efficiency doesnt necessarily equate to being a winning formula...the problem is, you need an actual gauge of the sport to understand this and 99% of ppl online talking about basketball have absolutely NO gauge of the sport whatsoever.

@marker7443 Жыл бұрын

He also never averaged more than 19 points a game. That’s a terrible comparison to the topic at hand because Steve Nash was never considered a super super star. He won those mvps because he was a very valuable component of his teams success. The caliber of players in the top ten is insane, so the differences are going to seem meticulous or minute. The truth is that Kobe was always considered around number 8 or 9 until his untimely passing. I love Kobe, but he was not better than MJ, Lebron, Kareem, Magic, or Tim. (IMO Larry, Wilt, and Bill should also be ahead of him, but I see the arguments against it) Edit- also how does efficiency not equate to winning? Russell Westbrook is inefficient and clearly that impacts his winning. Turnovers and missed shots don’t win games, don’t try to sound like a wise guy because that doesn’t even make sense

@fwsreal Жыл бұрын

You honestly believe that kobe deserved only one mvp? The “ raping" allegations back then had a negative impact on his carrer!!

@josephschmizzo1595 Жыл бұрын

@@fwsreal Kobe deserved at least 3 MVPs...

@josephschmizzo1595 Жыл бұрын

@@marker7443 youre lying tremendously lol Kobe was in everyones top 5 pre 2013-2014 when sports media started to turn on him. Theres nothing that Tim Duncan cn do better than Kobe Bryant on a basketball court lol and nobody ever saw Tim as even being in the discussion for best player in the world...i can tell u dont watch basketball and u gotta be like younger than 25 to even suggest something so dumb. The “Tim Duncan was better than Kobe” ppl are a new phenomenon that just popped up on the internet over the last 5-6 yrs and its all ppl who dont understand how either of their games translated on the court because their opinions are too heavily influenced by stats and analytics...you guys simply didnt watch basketball during that time and youre too young to realize that youre completely wrong, u dont even understand public sentiment during those years.

@fwsreal Жыл бұрын

@@josephschmizzo1595 even Tim knows Kobe is better than him!

@camrunco Жыл бұрын

Love this convo

@tigerscott5929 Жыл бұрын

Ric lost this argument as soon as he implied he had Kobe ahead of Duncan, LeBron, Magic, or Kareem.

@christiannieto9827 Жыл бұрын

Kobe is better offensively and defensively than all those players. He's beat Duncan head to head, and thats me not counting the Shaq years.

@Joes35 Жыл бұрын

Nicks trash list is gonna have Jordan at 3. He put luka at 20. Nicks list doesn’t need to be discussed. It’s a trash propaganda piece

@RAZGR1Z Жыл бұрын

He's always been a Kobe fanboy. He's spent too much time down in LA around the organization to see beyond his bias.

@dominiquebrown2890 Жыл бұрын

He put kareem ahead of kobe were you not listening

@tigerscott5929 Жыл бұрын

@@christiannieto9827 that’s just not true. Duncan is arguably the 2nd greatest defender ever behind Hakeem, Kareem was always a defensive presence, and LeBron through is real prime years was a better on ball defender than people give him credit for, on top of the fact that he has better statistical defensive numbers than Kobe. Even as far as offense, Kobe was just more primarily a scorer than all 3 of those guys. But offense is more than just scoring. And I’d argue that at least 2 of those 3 guys were better all-around offensively than Kobe was.

@The-Real-One- Жыл бұрын

Ppl forget Kobe ties the record with 9x all nba defensive team... and ppl act like that's nothing

@willc5023 Жыл бұрын

Facts, u dont make all defense if your defense overrated

@theman9048 Жыл бұрын

they don't which is why he is top 10 all time

@Santiago4three Жыл бұрын

Bcoz casuals dont care about Defense bro. And that's facts

@phanb Жыл бұрын

Bucher's final statement is the ultimate winning argument lol thank you

@ryansamedi7 5 ай бұрын

Agreed I’m taking Kobe over anybody all time

@bigweezo2341 Жыл бұрын

Ric basically tears the spurs for being a great team and having multiple reliable pieces but then makes it seem like Kobe 3 peated and went back to back by himself 😂😂😂😂😂 WHAT?!

@TyreG18 Жыл бұрын

Not by himself, but with significantly less help than any other all time great that has won back to back championships. And with less help than one lebron for example, has ever had when he won.

@phoenixplayz1581 Жыл бұрын

@@TyreG18 Having a Shaq at his peak is arguably the best thing you can get

@Sammy-ec8cr Жыл бұрын

@@phoenixplayz1581 Kid… he went to 3 straight finals without shaq, with his best help being gasol 😹 stop it!

@guidomigueldegadillo4485 Жыл бұрын

@@Sammy-ec8cr I mean... Gasol is widely considered one of the greats at his position for his era, a shoe in for the HoF and made all star teams every year he won a title with the lakers... Of course he wasn't Shaq, but if you mean that Gasol was of minimal help, I want what you are smoking.

@taheemtownsend1003 Жыл бұрын

@@Sammy-ec8cr gasoline averaged 25pts 10 Reba n 4 assist one of the best passing big men of all time one of the best skilled big men of all time a six man of the year in Odom and Bynum was a very talented center who they got in the top 10 of the draft with other good role players they had the best front court in the league lol

@BloodandGoldNiner94 Жыл бұрын

You see they didn't have an answer about Kobes 2 rings without Shaq

@travisblair3189 Жыл бұрын

THEY NEVER DO!!!

@grahamstrouse1165 Жыл бұрын

The Lakers were a garbage fire after Shaq left…until they got Pau.

@larrydavid3114 Жыл бұрын

Against the 2 teams that beat Lebron.. 🫠

@jaust9077 Жыл бұрын

Yeah. 2 rings…duncan has 5 without shaq and lebron has 4

@travisblair3189 Жыл бұрын

@@jaust9077 Arguments like that are the dumbest. Funny thing is, y'all actually thinks that makes since. Smh🤦🏾‍♂️

@stephaniechaffin1154 11 ай бұрын

How can any list have Magic before Bird is beyond me and just ridiculous. Bird is the most underrated Superstar ever.

@eb5351 Жыл бұрын

Ric Bucher speakin FACTS

@jamesguglielmucci2001 Жыл бұрын

Kobe vs Duncan on an All-Time list is Intriguing for sure!!

@dominiquebrown2890 Жыл бұрын

Shaq and lebron is also intriguing

@StayTru101 Жыл бұрын

Kobe all day

@dsworld8721 Жыл бұрын

Facts, ppl overrate Kobe into the top 3-5 convo and skip over Tim. Tim's resume is clearly more impressive than Kobe but ppl hate real.

@ColdJelly19 Жыл бұрын

When people rank Tim Duncan the convo changes to “best PF” or big man, why I don’t know 🤷🏾‍♂️ he’s not overlooked or under valued it’s just different with him

@dominiquebrown2890 Жыл бұрын

@@dsworld8721 tim duncan averages like 20 pts for his career. Kobe belongs in the top 5 especially if lebron is in the top 5

@nostalgico_romantico Жыл бұрын

People hate the number associated to the player, while not thinking to who should be before him

@benhaney9629 Жыл бұрын

Yup. I always say this. Actually MAKE your list and then get back to me. I bet we are closer to agreeing than you think. “How can Dak Prescott be ranked the number 10 QB in the league...?!” Well because Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Russel Wilson, Pat Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Deshaun Watson, Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray, Justin Herbert... You actually have to make the list and people so rarely do.

@cjdayne3033 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Rick. The disrespect for Kobe is mind blowing

@FreedomFighter2112 Жыл бұрын

Total Achievements: (Titles / MVPs / Finals MVPs / 1st All-NBA / 1st All-DEF / Scoring Titles) 1) Jordan = 46 2) LeBron = 31 2) Kareem = 31 4) Kobe = 30 5) Duncan = 28 6) Wilt = 23 7) Magic = 20 8) Russell = 19 9) Shaq = 18 10) Bird = 17 11) Hakeem = 16 12) Durant = 15 There's a bunch of players with 14 Achievements. Stephen Curry has 13 Achievements. At the age of 27, Giannis has the best shot to make it into the Top 10...he already has 12 Achievements

@RodrigoBarrazaNunez Жыл бұрын

If you know anything about basketball, Jordan, Kareem, Bron and Magic are kinda unquestionable top 4 (in no particular order)

@N0limitJames Жыл бұрын

Yes

@Brantley_ZA Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't put Magic as #4, I'd put him as 5.

@RodrigoBarrazaNunez Жыл бұрын

@@Brantley_ZA I strongly disagree, but, just out of curiosity, who would you put ahead of Magic?

@joonpak Жыл бұрын

Yes in particular order, and it goes 1) MJ 2) Bron 3) Kareem 4) Magic

@Brantley_ZA Жыл бұрын

@@RodrigoBarrazaNunez Bill Russell... And to be honest I've been fighting with the idea of maybe even having Tim Duncan ahead of Magic too...

@geraldcooper284 Жыл бұрын

As a side note, I feel that Kobe/Shaq team doesn't get anywhere near the respect nor the debate that the great teams get. That 2000 team was cutting through teams like there wasn't another team on the floor. If I remember right, my Sixers were the only team to put a loss on them in the playoffs.

@JasonZhao4711 Жыл бұрын

that was the 2001 season. and in that season they didn't take the regular season seriously. If you could combine the 2000 regular season with the 2001 playoff, then you'd have a strong goat team argument

@youngfire9361 Жыл бұрын

That’s why during that time they 3peated the spurs had to retool and Sacramento Queens and drugged up Portland trailblazers was their best competition

@TheCephalon Жыл бұрын

Lol what are you talking about? The 01 lakers are widely considered the best team other, along with the 83 76ers, 96 bulls, and 2017 warriors. They are considered a dynasty, which the lebron heat aren’t even considered

@geraldcooper284 Жыл бұрын

@@TheCephalon I don't know about "widely considered". I don't hear these conversations. I hear more about the Spurs and they've never repeated. Maybe it's the outlets I'm getting my sports talk from.

@spaceghost4628 Жыл бұрын

That’s not true, in 2000 against the blazers they needed every bit of the help they got from the refs. Ask Timmy lol

@bolo5190 Жыл бұрын

Tim Duncan won a championship with the finals MVP in 1999 before Parker and Ginobili came into the league. The second best player to Duncan in 98-99 was a far second, I'm talking about David Robinson. Duncan was the Spurs offense in 98-99 but one important thing to mention the 98-99 season was a short season because there was a lockout, so to some degree there is an asterisk on that championship but at the same time it's still an amazing thing Duncan was able to accomplish and that was in his second season in the league. The bottom line is Duncan is underrated to some degree.

@spartanrealah2121 Жыл бұрын

50 game season now I would agree somebody had to win it but it was still a 50 games season

@flipside1940 Жыл бұрын

He never won back to back let alone 3 peat. Kobe all day.

@omarw007 11 ай бұрын

I find it funny when people want to disregard numbers but then want to count championships

@rhs07bears9 Жыл бұрын

Nick bodied Ric on this. Put him into a corner. Rics takes are really inconsistent.

@Mercurial. Жыл бұрын

Nick talked about NUMBERS 🤡 as he usually does. Ric talked about what he actually saw up close and that's REALITY and not fiction!

@kingjaydex7464 Жыл бұрын

@@Mercurial. what you see on the court is subjective so that argument holds little weight. You don’t gotta bend over backwards to make excuses for other all time greats for their numbers like people do with Kobe

@RAZGR1Z Жыл бұрын

@@Mercurial. Have you not noticed that the people who use the "eye test" as their biggest argument are clowns like Skeeuup?

@Mercurial. Жыл бұрын

@@kingjaydex7464 So hold on? Seeing a player LIVE is more off reality then sitting at home in ur desk and crunching numbers of a player is more of a reality?! And do please do tell about them EXCUSES of WHY Lebron is the only MVP in NBA HISTORY with 6 Finals, let's hear that while u talking about "excuses"?!

@travisblair3189 Жыл бұрын

@@Mercurial. Exactly ‼️

@eugeneli2254 Жыл бұрын

Wow 9 finals in 12 seasons. Why was that not in his docu-series. Magic sounds amazing.

@Mercurial. Жыл бұрын

Except them 9 routes though them Western Conferences to the Finals was almost pretty as equally bad as Lebrons route to the finals in them Weak East as Magic had several HOF and All stars in them teams but that's maybe something you didn't know. It's ok tho 🙏🏾

@davidlopez2276 Жыл бұрын

Only went 5-4 in those series, losing three of the last four.

@blackurustrikes2328 Жыл бұрын

@@davidlopez2276 - Magic was 2 - 2 in his last 4 Finals. Won it in '87 and '88. Lost in '89 and '91. And the later losses were largely influenced by Kareem finally being claimed by age and major injuries to Magic and other key players.

@messsi5046 Жыл бұрын

@@nathanmulchandani2869 is u blind ?

@lg3385 Жыл бұрын

He was....magic

@yhochste4511 Жыл бұрын

Ah, the classic, "I don't care what the facts or numbers say, I know what I saw."

@Hoops_head Жыл бұрын

These boys really grilled Kobe for having shaq but praise magic for having that stacked squad. Literally the whole era is called showtime.

@abiyu5607 Жыл бұрын

Nick just roasted the man in the middle with facts.

@studmuffin3264 Жыл бұрын

Duncan over Kobe is the funniest thing I've ever heard.

@terrystyles3486 Жыл бұрын

Duncan better player then Kobe Finals Mvps (individual player) Duncan 3✔️ Kobe 2 ▫️ League Mvps ( individual player) Duncan 2✔️ Kobe 1 ▫️ Total Mvps ( league and finals ) Duncan 5✔️ Kobe 3 ▫️ Rookie of the year Duncan Yes✔️ Kobe No ▫️ Field goal% Duncan 50.6%✔️ Kobe 44.7% ▫️ 1999 NBA playoffs Spurs 4 Lakers 0 Duncan swept Kobe with a prime Shaq ▫️ Bleacher report top 50 best NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 4. Magic Johnson 5. Larry Bird 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant ▫️ Bleacher report has Kobe #14

@studmuffin3264 Жыл бұрын

@@terrystyles3486 hahahahahahaha

@tinyfalcon1185 Жыл бұрын

@@terrystyles3486now what about 2008 when Kobe killed that Duncan lead team? Who were also defending champs

@magicjohnson5733 Жыл бұрын

@@studmuffin3264 nice argument

@studmuffin3264 Жыл бұрын

@@magicjohnson5733 okay how about this. Duncan was literally never the best player in the NBA lol

@freeblacksociety2622 Жыл бұрын

Kobe has the most game winning shots in NBA history. They only say buzzer beaters but ignore the game winning shots.

@beemerk35str73 Жыл бұрын

Points LBJ/ KB 40+ 69 135 Game 50+ 14 25 Game 60+ 1 6 Game 80+. 0 1 Game Kobe set on the bench the first two years of his career behind Eddie George. Me saying that he had more time than Kobe started since he came in the league. And y'all say he a better score if you don't believe Google it look at the stats above 🔝

@Jaypharoah06 Жыл бұрын

Nobody is devaluing Kobe in the 3peat but when you have a teammate that averaged 37,17, and 7 you are the 2nd banana. Also people call Kobe so clutch, he would take the shot…every time but he missed more go ahead shots than anyone.

@christiannieto9827 Жыл бұрын

He's played 20 years. Thats why hes missed the most. How is that hard to understand 🤔

@RAZGR1Z Жыл бұрын

Plus he had several down years.

@arjunvivekraj8758 Жыл бұрын

@@christiannieto9827 lebron also is gonna play 20 years and is considered un clutch but he has less misses than Kobe

@travisblair3189 Жыл бұрын

You're just talking about those Finals runs. They would've never made it to the Finals without Kobe averaging 30+ & running through The Spurs, Kings, Trailblazers, etc; KOBE dominated & closed those series at 21, 22, 23 years of age.

@ChreamOhWheat Жыл бұрын

@@travisblair3189 just stop bro it don't even matter when people already got they mind made up......they can't even name any center shaq went up against in the finals without Google cause they was all BUMS

@izzydonuts4217 Жыл бұрын

That was like 12 minutes of Rick saying "I saw them both and I feel like Kobe was better." There was no real substance to it -_-

@josephschmizzo1595 Жыл бұрын

Kobe Bryant is a lock for #2 all time imo and its not up for debate as far as i’m concerned...

@hardwoodthought1213 Жыл бұрын

Because you’re a deluded overly emotional fan of highlights rather than actual basketball

@damionbiggs2851 Жыл бұрын

Nick Wrong hating on Kobe is ridiculously out the roof. Stop hating Nick Wrong.

@marcusgonzalez6128 Жыл бұрын

How is hating putting Kobe in top 6? Sorry buck-o that's where he belongs and Lebron is top 2. Get use to it. Those are facts.

@Husha2263 Жыл бұрын

now mentioned who Shaq faced in those finals, and how the road TO those finals were dog fights and Kobe was very much needed in all facets during those wars

@impactovernumbers5157 Жыл бұрын

Exactly. shaq had a mismatch every finals so the team let him exploit it. Kobe was always comparable if not better during the series in the western conference.

@josephschmizzo1595 Жыл бұрын

@@impactovernumbers5157 better*

@impactovernumbers5157 Жыл бұрын

@@josephschmizzo1595 lol facts but I always wanna give diesel his credit. You not lying tho.

@beanstocks5782 Жыл бұрын

Basically Ric is saying his argument is subjective and Kobe is ahead of bron and Duncan only cuz he said so lol

@regiecruz7490 Жыл бұрын

because he likes flashy players and duncan is boring to watch that's how he rank players.

@manniesupasport7977 Жыл бұрын

Kobe 4-2 vs Duncan in the playoffs

@nunyabidness8281 Жыл бұрын

I love when Rick Beuker is on the show. Always keeps it real

@isaactemiog6961 11 ай бұрын

At least spell his name properly lol

@elijah140564 Жыл бұрын

I love Kobe but having him over Bron should get you disqualified as a sports analyst

@rowdyalejandro Жыл бұрын

You’ll can have your Duncans and Lebrons, to me Kobe Bryant wore a cape. It was an immense thrill to see him play. He’s the reason why I fell in love with basketball. He’s the 🐐 in my list. Only an opinion. Everyone has their own list.

@carteljameson8395 Жыл бұрын

"He's the reason why I fell in love with basketball" Which is why you'd never be able to create a Top 10 Players of All Time list(or in this case the last 50 years). NBA fans just love their favorites and think that's enough to put them above other players. There's no objectivity involved. Contrary to what Nick said in this video, I don't think there's much of an argument between Duncan and Kobe. Duncan is a greater player and I don't think there's much anyone could say otherwise. His career resume is simply better across the board and his play on the court will never get the credit it deserves.

@brettself4520 Жыл бұрын

clown

@rowdyalejandro Жыл бұрын

@@carteljameson8395 I disagree. Kobe was the best player of his era and btw Duncan played in it.

@rowdyalejandro Жыл бұрын

@@brettself4520 must be a Bronsexual

@carteljameson8395 Жыл бұрын

@@rowdyalejandro Of course Duncan played in the same era and he was simply better than Kobe. It's not rocket science.

@fadielhaj4586 Жыл бұрын

Buchers facial expressions while getting owned had me tilted. Violence with my coffee this morning

@travisblair3189 Жыл бұрын

Owned by who???

@nnamdi602 3 ай бұрын

Ric Bucher was speaking straight facts. Duncan not messing w/ Kobe at all. While they played I never heard nobody say Duncan was better than Kobe.

@RedEyeItachi Жыл бұрын

Kobe is #4 on my list. I’m tired of hearing about efficiency. It literally a argument that people who never played ball make. Kobe is so inefficient that if he takes 20 shots he is going to make 8.5 of them and score 24-25 points. Meanwhile Steph someone we consider to be one of the most efficient players ever is gonna make 9.5 shots and score 27-28. Like we r talking about 2-3 points per game difference. Efficiency is so overrated that it’s not funny. That’s the difference between a inefficient Kobe and a AllTime efficient Steph. 2-3Ppg and 1 shot. Stop using that as a argument.

@terrystyles3486 Жыл бұрын

Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt and most missed shots in NBA history isn't even top 9 player all time

@terrystyles3486 Жыл бұрын

Jordan, Kareem, LeBron, Chamberlain, Russell, Magic, Shaq, Duncan all 8 players better then Kobe

@RedEyeItachi Жыл бұрын

@@terrystyles3486 like bruh Bill Russell averaged 14 ppg get him the tf out of my replies that dude is the most overrated basketball player in the history of the game

@abdeenabdul9472 Жыл бұрын

kobe a top 4 player 😂😂😂😂 this is too funny lol.

@terrystyles3486 Жыл бұрын

@@RedEyeItachi Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt and most missed shots in NBA history hes not even top 10 player all time You talking about Bill Russell 15 ppg like scoring only stat you bum

@calcham1 Жыл бұрын

I only had to listen to 27 seconds of Rick Bucher, to determine that he was going to put his anti-LeBron bias on open display.

@mattislinx Жыл бұрын

I like how the list is the past 50 years. It's always hard to rank guys like Russell and Chamberlain alongside guys like MJ, Kareem, Magic, LeBron, Bird, Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, etc. As far as Nick's ranking, it's all subjective. Everyone has their own list. I think Jordan, Kareem, LeBron, and Magic have to be the top 4 no matter what. Then it's Duncan, Shaq, Bird, Kobe in whatever order.

@MrToco23 Жыл бұрын

Well said!

@AR-zm8kd Жыл бұрын

100% agree with u. However I would have wilt over Shaq.

@vanlian7571 Жыл бұрын

@@AR-zm8kd he literally just said wilt isnt included 🤦🏻

@ThomasFromTN Жыл бұрын

You said - correctly - that because everyone has their own list...that, by definition, would mark such listing(s) as empirically subjective. That's true for EVERYONE'S personal list. Including - yours.

@trelavon724 Жыл бұрын

@@AR-zm8kd wilt isn’t in the past 50 years lol

@christianmeneses4996 Жыл бұрын

I love how nobody mentions that Kobe Bryant was playing with a broken or dislocated something in his hand shoulder or feet like every season he was hurt and that was one of the reasons he was so he didn’t shoot the ball effectively 1 season he was playing what a finger splint ON HIS SHOOTING HAND I dare you to go outside and play with a finger splint on your middle finger on your shooting hand and see how that works out for you

@charlescooks9360 Жыл бұрын

No excuses he chose to play

@clintholt563 Жыл бұрын

@@charlescooks9360 exactly

@thefray8910 Жыл бұрын

@@charlescooks9360 not an excuse but fact and Kobe has a better finals record and more rings than lebron more defensive teams lebron played in a easier conference his whole career played with more hall of famers and the spurs were never a threat to Kobe seeing Kobe is 7-0 in the western conference finals

@cobi2502 Жыл бұрын

What about Allen Iverson? His own is worse.

@clintholt563 Жыл бұрын

@@thefray8910 Lebron grades higher than kobe no disrespect