Today, we're going to talk Production Integral Knives, discussing the nature, the pros, the cons, and some of the options currently available outside of the custom market.
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@terrapindude83806 жыл бұрын
Integral knives can be cheap just look at the opinel making integrals for under $100
@zengruh88076 жыл бұрын
opinel making integrals for under $15
@ianwoodland73796 жыл бұрын
I was going to make a similar gag. Integral is made of wood and cost me ten euros...😀😀😀
@cavedog12796 жыл бұрын
I think the benchmade axis lock lends itself very well to an integral. It simplifies the construction greatly and the spring on the anthem is miles better than that omega spring on the 940. I'd like to see a ti lock integral :)
@mountainmanwatchreviews80816 жыл бұрын
Whoa June 2017?? Are you backlogged almost a year?
@Cenicebri06 жыл бұрын
Today I learned what's an integral, so is like a taco instead of a sandwich
@Demanufactur36 жыл бұрын
Your metaphor is most accurate good sir.
@Pew70706 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite folder types. Great job Nick! As an introduction to integrals it is excellent!
@FinickyVoid Жыл бұрын
Gdi... I love how I had a question about what an integral is, and I clicked on this, and my question is answered within moments. Now that I've got a basic understanding, I can understand the rest of the pieces. So many youtube channels make you wait for the answer for "retention" but it just means after I've watched the video, I need to watch it again! Lol I appreciate the straight forward answers/explanation to start the video boss!
@gmansplit6 жыл бұрын
I prefer derivative knives. Amirite?
@NickShabazz6 жыл бұрын
Sumtimes
@DJHamburgla6 жыл бұрын
I love the sound that Benchmade makes when it's closing!
@Spitsz013 жыл бұрын
Love the WE 909c. What a craftmanship.
@slidetek6 жыл бұрын
I sold my 2 production integrals. On your "list". One was too big, the other had issues where being an integral was actually keeping that issue from being easily fixed. Glad your time machine is still working. I think I need to switch input tubes to something Russian.
@sofakingphat80873 жыл бұрын
My idea for this sort of knife would be to mill out everything from a titanium block as normally would be done. Then construct the liners inside as a one piece deal Bach included. Add the Sunbold liner lock mechanism into the Mehldau titanium and add T 10 screws from both sides of the scales. Then add the knife blade and pivot. I believe that assembling the inner frame and lock mechanism prior to setting it inside as a one piece deal would make a stronger liner lock and be cheaper to assemble. Passing the savings on to the consumer while still maintaining a unique knife. I have never held one of these knives myself but perhaps that’s the way they’re made anyways. I would love to get my hands on one soon. Just to explore how the mechanism works.
@tyyreaun6 жыл бұрын
One thing I'd like to see is a liner lock with an "integral scale". Basically, make a liner lock with two titanium liners + standoffs, then mill out a single piece of micarta or G-10, shaped like a taco, that will fit around the entire thing. The "scale" can be held in place with just the pivot screw, so you'd have a clean look on the outside with almost no hardware, but it'd be not much harder to build than a regular liner lock. Even the clip can be blind screwed from the inside with some fancy hardware.
@joshstarkey88836 жыл бұрын
I prefer "flow through construction" because I can clean out sand, lint etc, and disassemble it if the dirt is really in there.
@Cooldibs6 жыл бұрын
I want to see an carbon fiber integral knife
@indycancer046 жыл бұрын
Lion Steel TM1 CS
@lanehoward88166 жыл бұрын
Good video Nick 👏👏👏👍😆
@jolness13 жыл бұрын
I do love my anthem, I forgot how bronze they were out of the box though haha. Does an integral mean the knife is better? Not really but it is a cool effect and they feel so nice. Been on the lookout for a Paysan production version. Am I the only one who would love an integral Sebenza? I think with the pivot bushing and their machine tolerances, it would be fantastic. Although I know Tim and the crew are a small operation and that may not be feasible. Would still be cool as hell though.
@johnkennedy90786 жыл бұрын
Nick, can you please tell me if you see any potential "structural" concerns with integrals? Is there anything you can think of that may potentially givea standard frame locking folder an advantage for long term use? I'm about to buy an expensive integral, looking for any potential concerns. Thank you 👍
@kevinlynch35886 жыл бұрын
Hear of any updates on the Spyderco Paysan?
@Keith_the_knife_freak6 жыл бұрын
Nice video thanks 👍👍👍
@EdwardFeenman6 жыл бұрын
I know you are not huge on the hardware, but the WE 702 for $295 is hard to argue with.
@jacksontaylor94656 жыл бұрын
Edward Agora Feenman you’re definitely right, it’s a steal. But if you wait a couple weeks/months We just showed a bunch of integral prototypes that not only are the same price as the 702, but will have much better screws.
@gmoney59475 жыл бұрын
God damn China man bringing the USA down. I own a WE and a Rike knife and some spydercos from Taiwan, but I mostly own American made (benchmade, microtech). Also got a spyderco and cold steel from Italy. Companies like WE, Rike, and Reate make beautiful high quality knives so I understand why you’re drawn in. I am too!
@EDCwithAaron6 жыл бұрын
Almost a full year! Haha... I have been trying to buy a Benchmade anthem forever. I ordered one online, got it, had vertical blade play, sent it back to exchange. They checked every one they had in stock and said that the one I returned was the best one. I went to a local knife show and looked at 4 New Examples, every single one had blade play. I ended up getting a store credit and used it to buy a sebenza, which is great, but I wanted an anthem. Its pretty pathetic that at $425 out of quite a few examples that I couldn't find even 1 that had solid lockup, let alone even grinds, centering, etc. At $425 every one that leaves your factory needs to be perfect. Not 1 out of 10 or 15. If anyone does have a perfect example and wants a sebenza let me know! Haha... Although at this point I'm very very close to giving up on Benchmade completely because of their lack of QC and because myself and a few friends have sent them knives for warranty repair and gotten them back in the same condition they were sent.
@knifenoob54116 жыл бұрын
Not just Benchmade. All of these companies want max profits and a lot of knife buyers accept things wrong with expensive knives so nothing will change.
@charlesalberti5636 жыл бұрын
You could go on r/knifeswap on Reddit and see if anyone wants to trade you probably would have better luck
@utlong16 жыл бұрын
I guess i got lucky with my anthem then, Minimal blade play with perfect centering and grinds etc. Otherwise i have had trouble with other benchmade products however.
@gmoney59475 жыл бұрын
EDC with Aaron I shoulda read this first. My anthems on the way. It said it was coming from benchmade. I don’t own a knife that has blade play and I don’t want the most expensive knife I’ve bought to have blade play. Maybe I should have gone with CRK but I’ve got enough s35vn.
@limey84894 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the Midnight Cat design Amber II ? they have a beautiful pivot system to relieve inward pressure on the milled frame. Ever reviewed one? Ta Nick!!
@imsteevin3 жыл бұрын
Would love a full Rike review
@koga81003 жыл бұрын
I LOVE that anthem
@jonathantaylor25846 жыл бұрын
Are you going to pick up the CKF and Snex collaboration knife on it's release? I'd love to see it disassembled.
@tyyreaun6 жыл бұрын
What, the spinner? ;) j/k
@NightlifeSux6 жыл бұрын
So it's milled vs. stamped. As if I haven't heard enough of that on gun forums...
@johnkennedy90786 жыл бұрын
NightlifeSux right lol! I learned to buy stamped in the AK world. Yes, you could argue that point, but bigger argument is AK vs AR!😄
@koga81003 жыл бұрын
Lol
@yankee2yankee216 Жыл бұрын
I don’t own any of those, but I DO own a WE TiSpine (actually 3 in different finishes) and I just purchased a WE Drakon 819c. I just LOVE the integral designs!
@SmJ-6 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why no mention of the Nirvana being discontinued and the Paysan being announced, then you casually mention that you’ve been sitting on this for nearly a year. Since you recorded this, are there any new integrals that you’d say edge out the Anthem?
@kanecassidy91266 жыл бұрын
Hey Nick! Any plans on doing reviews of OTF knives? I really would like to hear your opinion about ultratech.
@HikikomoriZone6 жыл бұрын
Kane Cassidy he's done a couple of OTF reviews. Apparently they don't appeal to him so it's unlikely we'll see more reviews of them.
@kanecassidy91266 жыл бұрын
He has done only one actual otf review which is Benchmade Phaeton. The other was some cheap zombie knife quality piece of crap.
@Thisguydoesstuff6 жыл бұрын
He’s mentioned on livestreams before that microtech is on the proprietary hardware shitlist. If they used standard screws he would be more inclined to look at them
@charlesalberti5636 жыл бұрын
ThisGuyDoesStuff I believe he has totally disowned microtech for their warranty, attitude towards customers, and how they handled the Kershaw fued
@daveg.48625 жыл бұрын
Chris Reeve taught Scott Cook how to build knives, Scott Cook invented Integral (Lochsa) the Finest Integral made. You can walk the whole Blade show and not see one for any price, but once you hold one you understand. Scott makes one or two a month, if you find one buy it.
@knifenoob54116 жыл бұрын
Bearings on a hard use design? I so much love the lion steel ones but they are still slippery!!
@yankee2yankee216 Жыл бұрын
Integrals require some fancy, intricate CNC machining, and between that and the simplicity so achieved, I like integrals best of all!
@Tmankiller726 жыл бұрын
My integral is an Esee laserstrike
@rileybracelin42746 жыл бұрын
I know you don’t like them, but have you thought of reviewing a victorinox knife? The cadet is pretty good even if you just treat it as an edc knife. Plus they’re kind of an edc staple.
@rileybracelin42746 жыл бұрын
MrKumbancha yeah that would work too. I mainly said the cadet because it’s so well known and I wanted to get his take on it.
@thomaslanders11626 жыл бұрын
I've been buying a lot of Victorinox lately (Alox, colors).. Just great knives.. I'm sick of having problems with expensive, higher end production knives.. Every Victorinox is useful, high quality, low price and many look great...
@rileybracelin42746 жыл бұрын
Thomas Landers exactly, they are so great to collect. Plus, the blades are super slicey and alox is such an attractive material.
@ianwoodland73796 жыл бұрын
Riley Bracelin what's Alox? Like stainless with aluminium in it? Nah. That doesn't make sense... 🤔
@DZNTZ Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure CRK invented the frame lock, that’s about as early an implementation as you can get! He’s certainly credited with it, idk if that’s debatable, but I’ve heard it many times from reliable sources.
@scipio78376 жыл бұрын
wouldn't the Opinel be one of the first integrals?
@esoteric52775 жыл бұрын
you need to wrap that in a tortilla and at lots of hotsauce to make it palatable😖
@SuperScalemaster6 жыл бұрын
Wilson Combat?...interesting,tell us more !?
@tacticalcenter86586 жыл бұрын
love my integrals. Lionsteel TM1 in carbon fiber and the microtech custom anax Carbon fiber integral. the microtech i like less cause i hate microtech and tony himself has sued many people already sadly including a blogger... but the quality is very high, its also fun to flick. blade grind is ridiculous but i didnt really have a choice of blade when i received it. The TM1 is awesome in quite a few respects. its integral carbon fiber also a backlock and its also on bearings. flipping amazing knife. also tall thin grind. great slicer. very great at cutting cardboard.
@BillGreen26 жыл бұрын
Doing the 'Time Warp' again?
@johnyricco12206 жыл бұрын
My only integral is an Opinel
@openplz30006 жыл бұрын
You just can't beat a piece of billet metal. The only down side for me is they can't Swiss cheese the inside, instead they contour the handle to scrub weight. I like the simplicity of integrals
@760rudogg6 жыл бұрын
Vdk impaler also nick.
@mountainmanwatchreviews80816 жыл бұрын
If I ever got one it would be a lion steel.
@cidi3496 жыл бұрын
There is an old traditional integral knife for around 10 bucks. Very slicy and easy to resharpen, different steels and different sizes. Every knife expert can proof its efficiency and will recommend it. You say 'no way!' I say 'Opinel' xD
@EDCwithAaron6 жыл бұрын
cidi349 there's also a full stainless steel integral knife for $8 on Amazon! ... The Gerber EABLíté!
@nebulamask816 жыл бұрын
This is June 2017? My damn time machine must be malfunctioning.Seriously though nice informative vid :)
@kerryrwac6 жыл бұрын
Almost a year later that Nirvavna is back and in the permanent collection , ironic .
@Agape19924 жыл бұрын
Are hot dogs just integral sandwiches?
@ogenmatic6 жыл бұрын
Hey, Nick Why is there no wig shop for men called “Hell Toupee”?
@andyrichardson61886 жыл бұрын
Nice overview. All nice knives you showed. For me the Nirvana is far and away the best looking. Shame about that blade. The Benchmade looks good as well. Shame about the clip.
@333turdferguson6 жыл бұрын
Not sure about the "closest to a fixed blade" statement. Yes, maybe if you run it over with a car. But in the sense of, you know, not folding during use--surely the lock is more important.
@sealevelbear6 жыл бұрын
“One solid chunk”
@we_build_it2 жыл бұрын
Integral "Folding" knife
@garydol93634 жыл бұрын
WE Synergy 2
@jordanmadden59266 жыл бұрын
I like the nato on your planet ocean
@mitchelldelmar96826 жыл бұрын
There's a mechanical vs. quartz watch analogy in here somewhere.
@Anthropomorphic4 жыл бұрын
Next step up: every component of the knife milled out of the same block of material. Carved out, then screwed back together.
@LTT.Official6 жыл бұрын
I just got a pm2 and this makes me feel like a peasant.
@JamNJ19854 жыл бұрын
No doubt this guy is a jesus fearing man from Texas
@innocentoctave3 жыл бұрын
The most obvious potential problem with integral knives is that neither the body nor any feature that has been made part of the body can be replaced in case of failure without replacing the entire body. Clips, lock bars, stop bars, scales etc. are usually separate items for good reason. The same is even more true of fixed blades made in one piece: it's all or nothing.
@genoedcknifecollecter15384 жыл бұрын
Can't you just get a machine to do it all for the handle in one process
@willblake722 жыл бұрын
Mmmmmm...blade sandwich
@pendulousphallus6 жыл бұрын
plus c
@duckwerksofficial4 жыл бұрын
I found this video to be a little derivative.
@NickShabazz4 жыл бұрын
He’ll yes, a calc pun
@BlackwoodBlades6 жыл бұрын
First
@woodyenfermo6 жыл бұрын
Damn clickbait, came here trying to learn about Leibniz's work and all I find is trashtalk about knives...