Ⓕ Best Way For Gluing Wood Together To Get Thick Pieces (ep86)

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Nick Ferry

Nick Ferry

6 жыл бұрын

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Sometimes you need to glue boards together to make up thicker stock for table legs, furniture making & turning projects. This is the best way for gluing wood together to get thicker boards. Super simple but effective way to keep all the wood aligned while clamping just by using a parallel clamp and some f style clamps. I find this method a lot easier than using cauls, salt or nails.
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@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
a lot more woodworking articles, info and plans here - nickferry.com/ - and the article for this video with tool list here - nickferry.com/2018/03/best-way-for-gluing-wood-together-to-get-thick-pieces-ep86/
@tevfikevyurt3407
@tevfikevyurt3407 6 жыл бұрын
Amk gabbe Nike
@eugenerice4516
@eugenerice4516 6 жыл бұрын
Router gig to flatten plank of wood with twist
@texasfossilguy
@texasfossilguy 6 жыл бұрын
Nick Ferry just fyi chemically silica sand, like sand blasting sand, would be better than salt because its inert and salt is a polar molecule that reacts with water.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
texasfossilguy water itself is polar and pva glue is water soluble - I personally wouldn't want to use silica sand as to not have a physical separation between the wood pieces to be joined
@donlauricella
@donlauricella 6 жыл бұрын
Dominick612
@rontocknell3592
@rontocknell3592 6 жыл бұрын
How many clamps does a woodworker need? Answer: one more than he's got
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@nonyabidness7207
@nonyabidness7207 6 жыл бұрын
Amen to that!!
@neillongley59
@neillongley59 6 жыл бұрын
You can never have enough clamps!
@Colaaah
@Colaaah 6 жыл бұрын
Ron Tocknell haha yep, you should see how many clamps are needed when doing a stringer for a geometric staircase... ALOT!
@Alptraumification
@Alptraumification 6 жыл бұрын
Ron Tocknell I have exactly 220 pieces. Still not enough. Guess you’re right. I need one more.
@hungryarch7319
@hungryarch7319 6 жыл бұрын
Man, this is probably one of the biggest things I love about woodworking....I never stop learning. Nice tip Nick. Keep up the great vids.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% - finding new ways is one of the best parts!
@carloantoniomartinelli5418
@carloantoniomartinelli5418 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah: spreading glue with foam rubber rollers ! WHATEVER will they think of next ?
@caribaez5711
@caribaez5711 4 жыл бұрын
Why do we glue wood together?
@dr.chalmers7923
@dr.chalmers7923 Жыл бұрын
Why do we breathe oxygen? 🧐
@daphlavor
@daphlavor 6 жыл бұрын
Well done Nick! It’s the little things that craftsmen know among themselves but aren’t always shared or spoken about. Thanks again Sam
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
thanks - I'm glad Rich pointed it out because I wouldn't have thought to even show it
@christiankrippler9162
@christiankrippler9162 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for the awesome tip..."Oh honey I need to run to Lowes and buy a parallel clamp...lol!"
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Tell her you're going out for eggs and bread
@ChicNMovies
@ChicNMovies 6 жыл бұрын
If you don't have a parallel clamp you can just use regular clamps with 2 flat wood pieces instead ! great tip thanks for sharing !
@marvinkitfox3386
@marvinkitfox3386 4 жыл бұрын
This. The wood pieces allow more movement when the actual clamping gets done. Also instead of one parallel clamp that walks down the join, I just put two on. One each end.
@shaneneedham262
@shaneneedham262 4 жыл бұрын
That iswhat ihave done in the past, especially for longer or wider clamping, but realized if I do small parts and then with dowels and clamp finished product I get better results.
@harrydalton1689
@harrydalton1689 3 жыл бұрын
Calls right?
@9and7
@9and7 6 жыл бұрын
If lots know about it, it's not as important as the one who shares it. You just made many more productive and better makers. Thank You and keep up the great work.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Nicely put - thanks much!
@9and7
@9and7 6 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@deankramasz2896
@deankramasz2896 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Nick, I've been using that technique for a while. The only thing I worry about is clamping the aligning clamping to tight that it restricts the other clamping. Yes it does work well. Makes me start to feel like I'm starting to have confidence when I see things I'm doing that others are not. I still have a long way to go. Thanks. P.S. still waiting on the 2nd half of the Valentine box. My wife's getting impatient.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks - the "squeeze" clamp always overpowers the "alignment" clamp - didn't forget about the box - hope to be back on it soon
@153331
@153331 6 жыл бұрын
Dean Kramasz rosaruirosary
@Mr407etr
@Mr407etr 6 жыл бұрын
Dean Kramasz ii
@11211lcb
@11211lcb 5 жыл бұрын
After 40 years of experience, 25 pro you learn to not use sooooooo much glue. Squeeze out is excess glue, do your best to minimize it. Squeeze out is an indicator of plenty of glue but it should simply bubble, slightly, out at the joint line, dripping is way too much and too much trouble to remove. Excess glue is wasteful and further causes slippage when clamping. Do not use excess glue to fill a gap, add more clamping pressure. Clamping pressure will not starve a joint, contrary to what many think. A thin glue line is a strong glue line/joint. Try to never glue up stock that is cut to finished width or length. Lay your clamps on your work surface so that the bars are parallel to the work surface. Lay the pieces to be glued on top of the clamp bars. Let gravity help to keep pieces aligned. You can tweak a little after clamping if there is any slippage. With there proper amount of glue there will be minimal if any slippage.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the feedback - I’ve used varying amounts of glue over the years and always came back to preferring to use too much over too little (at least where laminations are concerned) - basically I’d rather have a bit to clean up than risk a void or dry spot as for the work surface clamping option - I’ve used this clamping method on pieces as long as 22 feet - hard to find a table that long to work from - also, in theater builds I often have to glue up curved handrails and this method is ideal for that as well Typically I do make my glue ups thicker, wider and longer than finished dimension, as I did in this case - this method merely keeps tolerances tighter cutting down on waste, planing/milling time - in the case of exotics and figured woods, this can be extremely beneficial I also agree wholeheartedly that glue is not to used to fill gaps - aside from sprung joints, clamping pressure on a panel glueup should be minimal - if it doesn’t come together properly dry, glue and clamps is not the solution and the joint should be reworked In summation, yes there’s always more than one way to do things - I tend to lean to this method because it’s quick and suitable for a wide array of applications and for me and my experiences the pros outweigh the cons ten fold
@artiet5982
@artiet5982 5 жыл бұрын
Nick Ferry bam! Nicely said, Nick. Lol, also, I could see the huge benefit here to be when doing glue ups over say, 10 feet. Where you are much less likely to mill the width after glue up as running a dozen or more linear feet through a table or band saw is cumbersome to say the least. Great tip and I will be using this method for large future projects. By the way, I’ve never noticed a comment by a person with 40 years experience in woodworking leave a positive comment on a how-to video on KZfaq. I often wonder why they watch how to videos instead of just make them.... Anyway, keep up the great videos man! -Art
@mm9773
@mm9773 5 жыл бұрын
@@artiet5982 I’m glad that people are willing to share their experience, and I don’t think Leon’s comment is negative. Yours is.
@artiet5982
@artiet5982 5 жыл бұрын
M M thanks for the input. I was probably in a bad mood that day.
@bobomonkey702
@bobomonkey702 4 жыл бұрын
Leon Bridges Yep I agree makes a lot of sense and well explained. Thanks
@thedrizz1913
@thedrizz1913 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing use for my sole parallel clamp. Great tip Nick! First time seeing it.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
It is - but of course now you need more parallel clamps
@tomsenft7434
@tomsenft7434 6 жыл бұрын
Nick Ferry : parallel clamps are expensive; I use scrap wood as cauls and wax paper.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
another great way of doing it - for me this has been quicker - and try packing tape on cauls instead of wax paper - makes positioning a breeze
@zzgarden
@zzgarden 5 жыл бұрын
@LARPin’ 4 the LORD Order them online.
@b1j
@b1j 4 жыл бұрын
@LARPin’ 4 the LORD I got a similar deal from Home Depot earlier this year on a set of four KRE REVOlution K-Body clamps: two 24" and two 50". Amazing price. You have to wait and watch for discounts to come along. I'll bet we'll see some sales once we come out of our isolation later this year. I've had some Bessey parallel clamps for over a decade, and these new ones are far better. Parallel clamps do what others can't. Nick has shown us a creative use for them!
@gamaroffant
@gamaroffant 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick! As someone just trying to start out with woodworking, NOTHING is too obvious 🤣 Looking forward to seeing more of your channel 👍
@hudsonriverlee
@hudsonriverlee 6 жыл бұрын
I am thankful. As I have never seen this process before. When you share knowledge such as this, we can all benefit . I have a tavern table I want to build, and utilizing this clamp up method will ensure as much accuracy well before the final sizing of the wood for the legs. It is the simple things that enrich our skills. I appreciate this video Nick.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
that's great - glad Rich convinced me to share it then!
@gpickmovies
@gpickmovies 5 жыл бұрын
I am 75 years young. Have been doing wood working for, at least, 60 years. Part of the joy of working with God’s created products is applying the abilities He has given me in learning some new aspect of this fun hobby. Your video has thought me a very simple gluing trick. Thanks. Glen in Lufkin, Texas.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 5 жыл бұрын
thanks Glen - every day something can be learned
@mattmassier8257
@mattmassier8257 6 жыл бұрын
Randomly landed on one of your videos and now going through more. These are really well made and easy to follow. They're great!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
thanks man - glad to have you here
@holzhandwerk_ak
@holzhandwerk_ak 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent tip. Will come in handy. Thanks Nick.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it useful!
@davidcerce
@davidcerce 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great technique! I don’t think I’ve seen this on KZfaq before. I do it like this also, using calls and clamps, and I usually glue up all 4 legs at the same time. Saves time and the number of clamps needed!
@Bluebuthappy182
@Bluebuthappy182 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, I was doing exactly that today and found your video just before i started. It worked perfectly. Such a simple Idea, well done
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect - that’s great you tried it out and you like it!
@MP-zf7kg
@MP-zf7kg 4 жыл бұрын
Final little comment on glue-ups, for larger pieces: -it's not necessary to do all pieces at one time, so, do them in sets your clamps can handle -for the final gluing, align your sets against a straight edge, and on a flat surface; it's best if the flat surface is finished or metal (so glue doesn't stick too much) -lay weights over the joints to keep them under some pressure; I've used cans of paint, heavy tools, whatever is handy -for lateral force, I use a bottle jack and a couple of 2 x 4's. Remember you're not smoking it down, just even pressure, so the butt of the jack just needs a solid place to rest. Sorry to do all this with words, a picture would be much easier. It's really pretty simple. -
@HBSuccess
@HBSuccess 6 жыл бұрын
Always done this - thanks to my high school shop teacher who taught me a ton. Also - Clamps apply pressure roughly 40-60 degrees from the pressure point so it’s much more efficient to use cauls to thicken the assembly. If the thing is 2” thick like your glue-up you really need a clamp every 2-3” to have even clamping pressure. But add a 2” caul to both sides - voilà a clamp every 6-9” would do the same job. I’m hedging because it depends on the type of clamp used- but you get the idea - use cauls. F and C clamps are the worst bc the pressure point is so small.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
good rule of thumb for sure but ultimately clamping pressure force angle is dependent on beam strength of whatever is next to the clamp pad - the more dispersion of force by a caul in many cases is good, it also lessens the actual clamping pressure to an overall surface when dispersed - so either cauls with high pressure clamps or omit the cauls and add more lesser pressure clamps
@WackeyWorxWorkshop
@WackeyWorxWorkshop 6 жыл бұрын
Without any formal training, everything we do in the shop is trial and error. Any info that someone, such as yourself, can give is very useful. Keep up the good work.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
well put - the learning and mistakes is just part of the fun
@Hubbmade
@Hubbmade 6 жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen it done quite like this, but the amazing thing was that I was actually thinking about how to glue up some legs today and this video popped up in my email!Talk about your perfect timing! Thanks for the video Nick
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing - I rarely get that one so I'll take it!
@81Sazerac
@81Sazerac 5 жыл бұрын
Nice technique. One thing to consider is to simply use two K clamps (the parallel clamps) on both ends and just clamp in between with smaller clamps. That way, you can speed things up just a bit, especially if the wood to be laminated are dimensionally identical. No need to continually clamp and unclamp the one parallel clamp going down the length of the wood. Also, if you are not going to be doing a lot of additional dimensional work on the laminated piece, you can drop 3 small dowels/dominos/or biscuits into each piece. This will also allow for glue-ups with near perfect alignment. I know a lot of people do this more for tabletop glue ups, but they can work well with leg glue-ups as well, but the key is to avoid much more additional dimensioning or you might have the alignment dowels/dominos/biscuits show in the final product. Although that might be cool if you intentionally wish to show the internal joinery.
@theosmits1141
@theosmits1141 6 жыл бұрын
I dont have any parallel clamps but i do the same thing i would on bigger glue ups i use cauls just for allignment like that then right away remove em for clamping other side for even pressure and to clean up
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Sweet - good way of doing it too!
@bonedaddy_p7
@bonedaddy_p7 6 жыл бұрын
Aye, You're basically using the parallel clamp as a temporary caul. Another big thing is working from one end to the other as opposed to ends first. I think it's great to share stuff like this as not everyone thinks of it.
@Ferndalien
@Ferndalien 6 жыл бұрын
Cauls can be custom made to fit a glue-up or assembly job. There are plenty of articles and images on the web. I also keep cauls from sticking to the assembly with plastic wrap. Just enough to fit between the caul and the wood plus an inch or two on each side.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Ferndalien or packing tape works good as well
@helshabini
@helshabini 6 жыл бұрын
If you don't have parallel clamps, try a straight piece of scrap and normal clamps to distribute the pressure over the whole edge.
@Gforceracing20
@Gforceracing20 6 жыл бұрын
Been a hobbyist woodworker for 20 yrs and this is the first I've seen this technique. Thanks for sharing Nick. I've used cauls for panels, this is the same principle for legs on a smaller scale.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Yup yup - glad that hear you liked it
@SF-fm7ov
@SF-fm7ov 8 ай бұрын
Another method is to use a flat table covered with wax paper on the bottom of the edges. Place wax paper on top of the edges then place flat steel or angle iron on top of wax paper and clamp down in several places to table. Then you can use clamps from each side to squeeze the portions together. This has the advantage of using a flat table to keep the project straight during glue up as opposed to a temporary clamp. An even better way is to use angle iron on 3 sides and the flat table on the bottom. Place wax paper so that project never comes in to contact with angle iron or table. The project is held square on all 4 linear sides. I know the cost of angle iron scares some people but it is reusable and cost less than a good clamp if you get it from a steel supplier.
@RonMarshallrone
@RonMarshallrone 6 жыл бұрын
I'll admit, I was a slippery brad nailer person until now. Great tip!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks - let me know how this works out for you
@j.macjordan9779
@j.macjordan9779 5 жыл бұрын
Slippery Nailer just so happens to be my gay porn stage name!
@davebauerart
@davebauerart 6 жыл бұрын
Great idea and excellent explanation/demonstration. Extra points for the brayer glue spreader.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks - they do work slick
@vicdelrosario4099
@vicdelrosario4099 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy and i learned something about woodworking that i am very loved. Carpentry works is the source on how i feed my first child and support my family.
@JLWoodArtistries
@JLWoodArtistries 6 жыл бұрын
Nice work. I discovered this technique after struggling through several glue-ups. It takes the stress out of it and produces a great result when the clamps come off. I’m glad you shared this. Take care.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks - you take care as well!
@bobjordan2552
@bobjordan2552 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a wood shop teacher for 36 years. Nice tip. Simple and does the trick. Thanks for sharing.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Very cool - glad you liked it - and sounds like you've seen a couple things before!
@ManCrafting
@ManCrafting 6 жыл бұрын
That’s a pretty good tip. Good to have in the back pocket of tricks.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
thanks Chad - it sure is
@KSFWG
@KSFWG 6 жыл бұрын
Back pocket? This one's going in the small notebook I keep in the shirt pocket! ;) lol
@tibfulv
@tibfulv 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking add two pieces of scrap wood clamped to either end, but the parallel clamp makes that unnecessary. Huh. And I see what I'm thinking of is an old idea called a caul. Nothing is ever new, lol.
@IEnjoyCreatingVideos
@IEnjoyCreatingVideos 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video Nick! Thanks for sharing it with us .😎👍JP
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
As always, thanks for checking it out!
@IEnjoyCreatingVideos
@IEnjoyCreatingVideos 6 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome Nick! 😎
@cesaralvarez5982
@cesaralvarez5982 6 жыл бұрын
Good tip Nick, thanks for sharing. I have used this method before. Most of my glue ups are for large panels for my relief carvings; I do put small clamps on the joints at the ends of the borads, then I use pipe clamps on the rest of the job, the problem arise in the middle of the boards, then I use long wedges and a mallet to aline them.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
I like the wedge method - great for wide panels
@fatboylo96
@fatboylo96 6 жыл бұрын
You don't even need a parallel clamp, two pieces of flat scrap work. I was a little dismayed when I got to the "trick" as this method seemed self evident the first time I glued up laminations. Good to remember that not everything occurs to everyone.
@csomdahl
@csomdahl 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, I just wanted to thank you for all of your videos I am brand new to woodworking and I mean new, my shop is being built and I am in process of gathering my tools. I am a retired nurse I own a small farm in Idaho, and I have been watching as many videos as I can. Your videos have helped me so much, thank you Chris
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you saying that - you are more than welcome and I’m lucky to be a part of your journey
@acanadianwoodworker
@acanadianwoodworker 6 жыл бұрын
4:20 - years later, it was actually determined to be the biggest glue-up in the history of woodworking #historymade
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha - I want a trophy then! 🏆
@ianwilliamtait9909
@ianwilliamtait9909 5 жыл бұрын
check it with CC before making comments about what someone said. He said, "This isn't necessarily the biggest glue up in the history of woodworking."
@vallejokid1968
@vallejokid1968 6 жыл бұрын
Kinda felt like I watching a cooking show
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Maple and glue cake!
@calebreasons
@calebreasons 6 жыл бұрын
Yes! I was watching this and said that same thing to my wife! 😂
@BIGWIGGLE223
@BIGWIGGLE223 6 жыл бұрын
Yes. Where's the little bowls of glue to mix in with the wood chips though??
@FromTheHeartWoodMK
@FromTheHeartWoodMK 6 жыл бұрын
This is a really great tip, I've always just put plenty of glue and allowed the boards to get tacky before final clamping, but even still it's always a wrestling match. Another problem is that I've never seen those parallel clamps for sale here in Greece where I live, but if I ever see them I am totally getting one or two, because really this makes sense! Thanks for this!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
no problem - if you don't have any parallel clamps a couple scraps of wood to bring the edges together works too just a bit more of a hassle
@SawdustmakerLori
@SawdustmakerLori 4 жыл бұрын
I tried this method of gluing up the fence pieces for your table saw sled plans today and it works AMAZING!!! I can't believe I never thought of gluing up pieces this way. I've tried all the other tricks but this works the best of all and is so easy. Thank you for sharing this tip!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 4 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome - it’s these little things we pick up along the way - when we understand that, we appreciate the old timers that have been doing this forever and a day
@bbrachman
@bbrachman 6 жыл бұрын
Nick: This technique (seems to me) only works if every board is the exact same width. If the boards are slightly off, then I cannot see it working well. The parallel clamp would only touch the widest board.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
In that case you wouldn't need to be so exact in the first place - if they slid a little it'd be no big deal
@bbrachman
@bbrachman 6 жыл бұрын
Correct. I end up just aligning one common edge. Glue them up and then hand plane the uneven edge down to dimension. Seems to work. Can't say enough about parallel clamps. Glue ups became a pleasure after I got a set.
@bestopaever8418
@bestopaever8418 6 жыл бұрын
The parallel clamp would only touch the widest board, but it would still limit the amount that the narrower boards could slide - which is the intent of the solution.
@Fanofrealtalent
@Fanofrealtalent 6 жыл бұрын
Nick, truly seems like a great idea. Sometimes it isn’t the earth shattering discoveries that mean as much as the simple ideas that make routine tasks easier. Thanks for the ideas...
@skie6282
@skie6282 6 жыл бұрын
You could put wedges or shims for the less wide pieces so that they will all stay close
@dickr5151
@dickr5151 6 жыл бұрын
Nick, your friend Rich was right, some of us doing this gluing find this helpful idea of yours very good indeed. You deserve a Gold Star! I make small items mostly with Baltic Birch. I had to glue up 7 pieces of 12mm Baltic Birch last Fall and everything was slipping a lot, eventually with a little struggling, I managed to get it under control after 4 or 5 clamps locked it up.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks - glad you could pick up something - I’m glad Rich pushed me to do a video on it
@jajablonsky
@jajablonsky 6 жыл бұрын
Great advice Nick. I did the exact thing during one of my glue ups and a buddy told me my clamp was going the wrong way too. He never saw this technic before and he's been woodworking for about 15 years.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Goes to show what we do can be an eye opener to others
@JustAnotherDayToday
@JustAnotherDayToday 6 жыл бұрын
“Starvation of glue.” That’s a new way to put it. 😆
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Always a new way to slice it
@SirBenJamin_
@SirBenJamin_ 6 жыл бұрын
So help me god .. if he pulls out a domino I'm gonna smash this cup against his .... ohh .. that's cool
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
now that's funny!!!
@MNhockeydude35
@MNhockeydude35 6 жыл бұрын
I have a domino, this comment is hilarious!!!
@valerieburton8809
@valerieburton8809 6 жыл бұрын
wforl was 2
@carpenterone3
@carpenterone3 6 жыл бұрын
That literally made me laugh out loud 😎
@nexgen91
@nexgen91 6 жыл бұрын
LOL
@trooperjoe73
@trooperjoe73 5 жыл бұрын
This video has come up recommended, many times. I've skipped over it, but I also never got to see any other of your videos. Now that I have, glad I did. Subbed.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 5 жыл бұрын
Great - glad to have you here!
@meilyn22
@meilyn22 22 күн бұрын
Nobody has glue issues when the wood looks that good. To feed his kids made me laugh.
@jjp52
@jjp52 6 жыл бұрын
Not trying to be a jerk, but couldn’t you just do it on both ends and call it good or do you have to work your way down? Great technique though that I will begin using in the future
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
This way you can correct bent or warped boards too
@magbxl
@magbxl 6 жыл бұрын
If you got a bad enough bent/wrap, the boards may start sliding as soon as you remove the "side" clamp. It happened to me once, but to be fair it was 12 feets long 4'' by 8'', and I surely did not have enough and strong enough clamps for the job. A bit of sand did help there.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
robert winton - exactly
@egilsandnes9637
@egilsandnes9637 6 жыл бұрын
I usually use a "glue-buck" (like a sawing horse), and I never remove the correcting clamps until a need them another place. Also, regular F-clamps combined with pieces of scrap wood with a piece of adhesive tape works just as good as parallell clamps. For big glue-ups putting straight boards on the side while glueing can straighten up the pieces and heavily reduce the number of clamps you need.
@cuskit
@cuskit 6 жыл бұрын
You should have flattened and jointed your wood before gluing up. If you need clamps to bend wood to bring them into alignment while gluing up - your legs will have a lot of movement down the road due to stress. That wood will want to 'spring' back to where it was before you forced them into alignment with the clamps. Golden rule of woodworking. In our shop we always cut the wood a bit longer to allow for a pin on each end, that will be cut off before the exact sizing of the wood takes place. I believe I even heard you state that your pieces were a bit longer than needed. By the way, this is constructive advice only - not malicious criticism. Love your channel, enjoy watching your videos! mike
@Colaaah
@Colaaah 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a qualified wood machinist amougst other things. I'll start with I agree that you can't have to much glue, but you can have not enough. The way I would do it, you don't need to worry about the timber slipping and I would do all 4 legs laminated in one hit. Say on the lengths of timber you are using, I would lay approx 6 X 900mm sash clamps down. Put all of your glued timbers in. All 4 legs, as they will stay separate without glue between legs. Then lay your other sash clamps on top between your underneath clamps. Then start to tighten each Clamp randomly top and bottom clamps until they bite. And then go over them all again when your happy where they are sitting and do them up nice n tight. All 4 legs done, no hassles. (And that's without talking about woodgrain directions into the laminating situation.) I believe I'd have my 4 legs glued and straight while your still lining your timbers up with your lining up clamp and clamping your 2nd leg together. I don't mean to sound rude. It's just the way it is 😜🤔🤣
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
very well could - always cool hearing how others accomplish the same task differently
@Colaaah
@Colaaah 6 жыл бұрын
Nick Ferry your welcome, I hope it came across clear. Cheers. Melbourne, Australia
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
clear enough for discussion - I see you said you're from Australia, do you have any HNT Gordon tools? I got one of their planes about a year ago and it is top notch
@rookiewoodshop
@rookiewoodshop 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick. Just ordered a pair of parallel clamps. Never seen it, but because of you, Rich and this community, we don’t have to fumble around anymore. Great tip. 😎
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks - let me know how you like it when you try it
@Heisenbrick
@Heisenbrick 6 жыл бұрын
I’m really enjoying your new videos, keep it up! You content is Valuable!!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch - just trying to do whatever
@Padraigcoelfir
@Padraigcoelfir 6 жыл бұрын
Must be an American thing not knowing about that "tip".
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Precisely - it's a complete skill to get born somewhere else - I'm glad you had the foresight as an embryo to choose which geographical region of the planet to be birthed in
@markgigiel2722
@markgigiel2722 6 жыл бұрын
LOL. PLAY NICE KIDDIES..
@markgigiel2722
@markgigiel2722 6 жыл бұрын
Nick I'm new here Thanks for the heart, now go make some sawdust and get off the internet. :-)
@marklumley619
@marklumley619 6 жыл бұрын
PatCat no not an American thing just novices who think by watching KZfaq they can be master carpenters. I love watching these hacks point out the obvious. Notice he talked about his friend who for ten years professionally and ten years before that worked with wood but never saw this. I'm laughing so hard, I'm glad I stumbled onto this video. Then his comment about making sure the glue doesn't touch the one edge as though the thought of wiping it off with a damp rag or sponge never occurred to him. 😂😂
@Puggy1234ful
@Puggy1234ful 6 жыл бұрын
must be an European thing being such a bigot.
@juggernaut3299
@juggernaut3299 3 жыл бұрын
This was great. I am getting ready to do a project with some glue ups and I was curious on how to get the legs right. Very helpful. I need more clamps!
@IgotHeliFever
@IgotHeliFever 6 жыл бұрын
Genius ! Great Idea with the Parallel clamp - I've seen hundred of laminated workbench videos and everyone just uses clamps across thickness then planes,sands or runs thru a thickness Planer not worrying to much about being square across top & bottom of workpiece! After 100's of videos I chose your Joinery Method ( Garden Bench build) for my workbench & your way of Clamping Up the Workpiece ! Thanks So Much Nick !! : )
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Very cool - glad you were able to put the two videos together to come up with a bench!
@timcaron9049
@timcaron9049 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, I have been using this method for several years now. Before I just used the table top to align the pieces, then I started to use the aligning clamp. In my 35 years of wood working, this is truly the best way. Great video. thanks for showing it.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
thanks Tim!!
@magrinney
@magrinney 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, another way to do a glue up. Good instruction and I subscribed just because of your enthusiasm.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 4 жыл бұрын
well thank you...I mean, thank YOU!!!!
@cammie8701
@cammie8701 3 жыл бұрын
I've been doing this since I started woodworking BUT the SALT tip is what I really needed! Thanks.
@jameskniskern2261
@jameskniskern2261 6 жыл бұрын
Useful tip. Nice demonstration. And goes to show that no matter how long you've been doing something, somebody can come along and figure out a better/easier/faster way of doing something. Thanks.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Yup - always a good thing to remember
@bonniebarber6114
@bonniebarber6114 6 жыл бұрын
I am doing so many glue ups this week and this really helped me out with a pretty warped board. Thanks Nick
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome - glad you could pick up some ideas!
@capti443
@capti443 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick! I use a slightly different technique where I align the pieces with two or three traditional wooden hand screw clamps, and then use metal clamps to compress the laminations against the length of a flat bench. That way, the glue-up is both lined up and straight, and gravity works with me to keep one board clean for truing the glue-up on a table saw or with a router. Good comment on orienting the wood to have the slight bends work against each other. I do that too and have great results.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
very cool - another great way of doing it
@esmefiorio4439
@esmefiorio4439 6 жыл бұрын
Capt I 6’&
@ronaldkirchoff938
@ronaldkirchoff938 6 жыл бұрын
Great tip Nick. Your videos are always so useful; I really appreciate them. Keep 'em coming!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
thanks much man!
@rhwoodshop
@rhwoodshop 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice tip Nick. I’ve actually used this technique for a couple years now and it works perfectly. You never cease to make me laugh! Great job.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Drew - you know me, always messing around
@davestinyworkshopotherprojects
@davestinyworkshopotherprojects 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen this method before, the parallel clamp usage is a brilliant idea! Thanks for sharing :-)
@celebrationscuba
@celebrationscuba 6 жыл бұрын
Most of the time it is little simple things like this that help the newbie more than any formal class they could ever take. No tip or trick will work every time, as some other comments here have mentioned, however if it works only once then it made life so much simplier. Thanks for sharing this tip, and PLEASE continue to share any tips or tricks you might have, if you only help one person, well it was worth it. Great video, thanks!!!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
thanks much - I am very happy this could help a couple people out - works really slick!
@galdinosanchez6657
@galdinosanchez6657 5 жыл бұрын
I just started working with wood and this is the way I've been winging it when gluing stuff together! Anyways, thanks for the video!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 5 жыл бұрын
Great minds think alike!
@ggreene245
@ggreene245 4 жыл бұрын
I've always used salt... This is really cool and so simple thanks for sharing...
@helshabini
@helshabini 6 жыл бұрын
I saw similar techniques many times before but never that simple as moving a parallel clamp from one side to the other. I guess you've shown the best way to do it. Well done.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Always a different way to do things - thanks
@wpd3004
@wpd3004 6 жыл бұрын
Okay, As a new wood worker this was a great video. I will be adding this skill to my very limited arsenal. Sometimes, what one thinks are the most simple skills, are really the most important. Because they are repeated over and over they become second nature. For a new wood worker they are great to learn. Thank you
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the comment - makes me think I made the right decision to make this video
@andrewroberts4745
@andrewroberts4745 5 жыл бұрын
Laminating legs for a platform bed frame and found this tip I will be exercising - thanks Nick, just saved me some ball ache.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 5 жыл бұрын
Well I’m glad I could you forgo that, lol
@gregwallin207
@gregwallin207 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip Nick. I’ve always clipped a finish nail and worried about cutting into it later. I will definitely use this technique on my next glue up.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 5 жыл бұрын
Let me know how you like it
@Ibaneddie76
@Ibaneddie76 6 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial, this is how I glue multi laminate guitar necks, I also have a jig I built that does the same thing but if you aren't doing a bunch of repetitive glue ups this is for sure the way to go. Good stuff Nick.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man - guitar necks would be kinda cool to see in multi contrasting woods as well - maybe that's common but I know very little about guitars
@trueleyes
@trueleyes 6 жыл бұрын
BRAVO, You are the first person I've seen on You Tube that has advocated the gluing of a peace on both sides other than me. I have a video on my Roubo Bench build and in it I mention the necessity of gluing both surfaces for the best results in wide areas to be glued up. During my apprenticeship I worked with a lot of German cabinet shops here in Los Angles and they all thought me that method of gluing bar none. The only thing I would say I differ with your comment is that I was thought to put one side a very good cover of glue but not to excess and the on the other side a light cover so that both sides have a complete cover of glue but not to waist glue on the run out of glue. A little run out was professionally accepted but a huge run out was looked upon as very amateurish meaning the one hadn't yet learn how to properly glue up a peace of wood. I never knew exactly way it was the best other then that was the way to do a good job take a look at my bench build Dan West Roubo Bench build
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Cool to hear - I do really like breaking that surface tension between pieces - I normally put a hair less glue on - being I had one take to get this right and it all was in one take, I probably went a bit heavier then normal
@rhihodag9873
@rhihodag9873 6 жыл бұрын
Great recommendation, Nick! I have to make a small side table and I'm going to employ your method in gluing up the legs. This just makes a lot of common sense. Sometimes the obvious is illusive.....to some of us.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help - I should have a leg making video out soon as well that's got some cool ideas in it
@edrunyon9847
@edrunyon9847 6 жыл бұрын
Tried this today . . . AWESOME! Thanks so much for the tip!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
So awesome to hear - probably the best thing about these videos is hearing people trying it out and liking it!
@ScotchAddict35
@ScotchAddict35 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick! I’m pretty new to woodworking and never thought about this nor have I ever seen anyone else do it.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
perfect - then it helped in some way
@valentinassabaliauskas913
@valentinassabaliauskas913 5 жыл бұрын
I used to make doors so I do know this method but you absolutely corect by showing this method no one was born with knowledge and we all have to learn after over 20 years in building trade I still find things to learn in a fields that I thought that I knew
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 5 жыл бұрын
exactly - you never know where you can pick up some new skills
@RaindanceBushcraft
@RaindanceBushcraft 5 жыл бұрын
Why the hell have I never thought of this? Thanks for an eye-opening video, man.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 5 жыл бұрын
to some it's obvious and to others it's not - just figured i'd share
@tabhorian
@tabhorian 6 жыл бұрын
I've been doing glue up for years, I never thought of this. Nice.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you could pick up another idea
@petermjonas
@petermjonas 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I want to make some simple side tables but I have not laminated table legs yet. Your video gives me some guidance to give it a shot.
@BeInspiredwithDominic
@BeInspiredwithDominic 6 жыл бұрын
Never seen it before, but it makes so much sense. Thanks for sharing, Nick!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
no problem Dom - glad you liked it!
@TheMuzShop
@TheMuzShop 6 жыл бұрын
Good one Nick! Always love those simple tips that can help out. Even know you may know the tip you may have forgotten it. So it always good to throw it out there. Thank Bro.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
much appreciated buddy - I agree
@ZacJones
@ZacJones 6 жыл бұрын
You can never have too many clamps, especially in this case. Thanks Nick for the videos!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
no problem - clamps are odd that way
@GarrethandPipa
@GarrethandPipa 6 жыл бұрын
they have had angular clamps for at least 40 years. It literally does exact what your doing. I used them more in welding class but we had them in the wood shop as well.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Nice to know - I haven't really seen them in the welding arena
@beckyofthenerdsisback3301
@beckyofthenerdsisback3301 4 жыл бұрын
THANKS. I am actually just getting into wood working and was looking into how to build up wooden structures... and this randomly showed up. your channel looks amazing!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 4 жыл бұрын
thanks much - happy woodworking!
@richardburgos4230
@richardburgos4230 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this demo, I haven’t started wood work yet but it’s something I’m definitely interested in. Im putting this in my “how to folder”
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
very cool - glad you liked it!
@Greybeardmedic
@Greybeardmedic 5 жыл бұрын
Your friend is right, I have never seen this! Awesome! Thank you. Time to get a set of parallel clamps.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect - glad you could pick up a new technique
@StationaryNomad361
@StationaryNomad361 5 жыл бұрын
Ok so I clamped some pieces together that will eventually be coffee table legs and I realize I have no idea how to get them to stop sliding around. So this video kiiiiind of saved my life. Thank you!!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice - good timing then
@JusBidniss
@JusBidniss 6 жыл бұрын
Nice tip! Use the parallel clamp as a sort of temporary caul during clamping. Much better than the salt method. Plus, you don't have to deal with all that bad luck from spilling the salt, having to toss some over your shoulder each time, etc. Perfect! :)
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks - and no one needs bad salt juju
@52wml
@52wml 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome tip, I hate to admit it but I've been doing woodworking for a hobby for years and never saw or thought about this technique. Thanks for sharing.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
no problem - learn something new everyday
@mattkessler7660
@mattkessler7660 6 жыл бұрын
thank you! I'm always looking for tips like this to improve my skills and quality of work!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
you and I both - thanks man!
@PMichaels
@PMichaels 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome tip, Nick! I love it when I learn such and effective and EASY new method. (“Now why didn’t I think of that?” 🤔) This is very cool and I will use this often. Thank you!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks - glad you could pick up a new idea!
@jonathanlunsford2081
@jonathanlunsford2081 4 жыл бұрын
Another good way to adhere two pieces - especially larger flat pieces - is with silicon circles. We once had to affix a 30"w x 26"h x ¼"d full height backslash to a level 5 finish painted wall. The backsplash was p-lam on the front and vertical sides, raw top and bottom, and typical brown backing on the back side. The wall was a typical industrial grade kitchen wall at the sink, made of typical ⅝" green drywall and 2x4 studs. The owner didn't want any visible mars or defects, so brad nails were out. Likewise, normal glue was a no-go due to the warping in the wall caused by our #14 lags anchoring the base and upper cabs to the 6" metal backing behind the sheetrock. Our solution was to put 2"∅ circles of silicon with an ≈ ¹/16" bead, spaced ≈ 5" - 8" apart, and a continuous ¹/16" bead about a ½" in from the edges. After applying the silicon, we pressed the backslash to the wall and braced it with sticks clamped to the uppers and the counter, making sure to form fit it to the bowing pattern of the wall. We asked the Super to wait a couple days, and then remove and hold our clamps until we returned. When we returned some 5 weeks later, we found our upper cabs on the floor, a huge patch in the wall where the splash had been, and our splash in the Super's office - with the original sheetrock (and a portion of 2 studs) still attached. Come to find out; the owner didn't like the color and wanted the splash replaced. The site's laborer's couldn't get the splash off the rock, and the rock was screwed to the studs... They ended up removing the upper cabs to protect them, and then took a sawzall to the wall to remove the splash. So... If'n you need a good, quick method for adhering 2 pieces, circles. They act like suction cups, and once the silicon gums up there's pretty much no getting the pieces apart again. Just be sure to make *complete* circles that'll seal, and don't try this with varnishes that silicon has an issue sticking to...
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 4 жыл бұрын
Rework! - I HATE rework! - when I was in manufacturing I would dread seeing an engineer walk over with drawings - it meant hours of re-doing what I just did - good tip on the silicone
@babypunkangel
@babypunkangel 6 жыл бұрын
Back in Rochester NY I worked at a museum where I was one of the youngest woodworkers. I had over 25 years working with wood and the older guys used to laugh at me for doing what you just did. I showed up to work on a day off and found out that three of them started doing the same thing but didn't want to look like they learned something from the "younger generation" so it was only done when I wasn't looking or when I was off. I made them a gift after I found this out. The gift was for all of them and it was a hand carved replica of my hand... giving them all the finger! LOL Never feel bad about doing something others don't do. it just means you think for yourself!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
I can see that being the case - I try to keep an open mind to new techniques myself but I'm guilty of relying on tried and true as well - it's a bit messed up from time to time - always more to learn
@Warkive
@Warkive 3 жыл бұрын
I saw this video a long time ago when I had first started looking into wookworking resources on KZfaq. I remember at the time thinking this was a great idea for glue-ups, but either because it was late or I was distracted I forgot both where I saw it and the overall method itself, but the knowledge I had seen a video that would really help with aligning laminations during glue-up stuck with me...and to degree haunted and annoyed me. And somehow today through the miracle of KZfaq algorithms, I wandered in this video again and I'm really glad to both have this knowledge and the monkey off my back of not remembering.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha - glad you found it - happens to me as well
@alext9067
@alext9067 5 жыл бұрын
This guy is pretty good. I subscribed a while back and forgot to hit the bell. I think this will be a good channel to keep an eye on.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex - much appreciated! I have some cool stuff in the works!
@Mr.Stacey-L-SCC
@Mr.Stacey-L-SCC 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you shared this. I have little skill in making things, but I do like to tinker in my shop. I've been thinking about how I might be able to glue up some MDF for some surround speaker stands I want to build, and this just might do the trick! I really do enjoy all your videos.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks much - if you end up going that route you'll have to let me know how it works for you
@FredMcIntyre
@FredMcIntyre 6 жыл бұрын
Great technique Nick! 👍👊
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks much buddy!
@markconger8049
@markconger8049 6 жыл бұрын
Great tip. My late father was a carpenter/woodworker on the side and built several chopping blocks which are laminated much like what you did. He used a couple of bar clamps as the base to position the wood on and then when all glued surfaces were placed would clamp them in the already positioned bar clamp. Once dried he ran both sides through a planer to get rid of any warps or bows.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Nice - ever better that you have those ideas from your dad!
@markconger8049
@markconger8049 6 жыл бұрын
Nick Ferry - for sure. It's funny what we remember after someone is gone.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
it really is - thanks for sharing!
@castaicmikeshea
@castaicmikeshea 6 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for some revolutionary tip. lol. however from the looks of it a lot of people never knew you could do this. Thanks for sharing. I always clamp the boards to the table with several parallel clamps across the entire workpiece and then the table acts as a level clamping surface for the bottom. Then clamp the boards together across the entire glue up.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
another great way to do it - yeah it seems some have seen it as obvious and others never thought of it or tried it
@sapelesteve
@sapelesteve 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick, that was an AH AH moment for sure! Will be using this in the future for sure......
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@shaneneedham262
@shaneneedham262 4 жыл бұрын
Very good idea, I used it for the first time last night and it really works well. I can see why it blew his mind, i had never thought of it in that scenario.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 4 жыл бұрын
That’s great - I know a few have seen this before but comments like this make me glad I did the video
@nylabone8782
@nylabone8782 6 жыл бұрын
Nice tip - I've done hundreds of leg glue ups. This is now my new method!
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Let me know if you like it after you try it - that's a lot of legs
@mamabearssheshedtracykeato6941
@mamabearssheshedtracykeato6941 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic tips Nick! I have used the salt before. However I've not use the parallel clamp in that manner before. I'll give it a try next time. Many blessings to you Nick.
@NickFerry
@NickFerry 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks much!
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