Nicolas Slonimsky on Frank Zappa

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GreggaryPeccary

GreggaryPeccary

15 жыл бұрын

In these recorded comments by Slonimsky, his musical world (classical/avant garde) and that of Frank Zappa (popular/avant garde) came together primarily due to the publication of a book by Slonimsky on scales and harmonies that attracted Zappas attention. Slonimsky recounts his acceptance of an invitation by Zappa to play with his Rock Band. He also recounts how amazed he was when he observed Zappas scores for classical music which looked far out like something Edgar Varese would write, a composer who was admired by both Slonimsky and Zappa.
Recorded at Slonimsky's home in Los Angeles by Charles Amirkhanian in 1983.

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@timothytikker3834
@timothytikker3834 2 жыл бұрын
I heard Slonimsky tell this story in a lecture in a new music series at the Palace of Fine Arts Exploratorium in San Francisco in 1981. Some additional details: Slonimsky said that he was at home one night, when the phone rang. He answered, and the caller asked "is this Nicholas Slonimsky?" Slonimsky answered "yes." "You're the Slonimsky who's the author of the 'Thesaurus of Scales and Melodic Patterns'?" "Yes, that's me." "Oh, this is great! I've always wanted to meet you! I just happened to stumble across your name in the Los Angeles phone book, and wondered if it was you. This is Frank Zappa." Slonimsky thought this must be some kind of joke, but Zappa assured him that it really was him. Zappa continued "we should get together. What are you doing now?" "Well, actually, I'm watching 'Kojak." "Well, would you like to come over now?" "Um, well, it is kind of late..." "Oh, I suppose it is... well, how about tomorrow, then?" Slonimsky said that he'd be free that next day, so Zappa said that he'd send over a chauffeured limousine to pick him up and take him to Zappa's home. Slonimsky said that, indeed, the next day a vehicle "which looked like a space shuttle!" arrived at his home, and took him over to Zappa's. At this point in the story, Slonimsky said of his meeting Zappa "first of all, he's perfectly normal!" He then continued, saying that there was a Bösendorfer Imperial grand piano in Zappa's living room, which Zappa then invited Slonimsky to play, asking that it be something that used the instrument's extra low notes. Slonimsky obliged, playing an extract from Mussorgsky's Opera "Boris Goudonov." Zappa then invited him to play with his band in an upcoming concert. They settled on performing a composition of Slonimsky's. Slonimsky described arriving at the performance venue, going backstage to meet Zappa, who offered him earplugs with the words "here, you'll need these," because of the extreme levels of sound amplification used in the concert. He said that Zappa introduced him to his audience, calling him "one of our nation's musical treasures!" He said this introduction met with uproarious applause, though added "of course, they would applaud at anything!"
@pangeaproxima3681
@pangeaproxima3681 9 ай бұрын
Lmao!
@DouglasWatts
@DouglasWatts 13 жыл бұрын
This is very nice. Due to Zappa I began listening to Edgard Varese as a teenager and really liked the music. The role of a musician as translator and bridge maker is underappreciated.
@BitterBosh
@BitterBosh 13 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Slominsky named his cat 'Grody-to-the-Max' after learning the phrase from Moon Zappa!
@_dorsalfin
@_dorsalfin 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't "gag me with a spoon?"
@NN-ul4oy
@NN-ul4oy 2 жыл бұрын
@@_dorsalfin Yes, also, but closer is "grody to the mouth", so actually the cat's name could also be "grody to the mouse" as a closer variation to the original text.
@neutralopinion13
@neutralopinion13 6 жыл бұрын
Slonimsky sounds like a great guy, and he spoke better english than a lot of americans
@bnaior
@bnaior 12 жыл бұрын
Mr. Slonimsky was the man with the plan in opening the concert world to modern music, specifically American composers. He conducted, produced...beat the pavements for $ to get all kinds of works heard for the 1st time in the 1920's. Such a nice coda to a life lived furthering the arts; the world owes him a huge debt of gratitude...no one was making money , but he kept things going...Stravinsky, Ives, Carter and more.
@pietroaligischiavi6951
@pietroaligischiavi6951 9 жыл бұрын
Nicolas Slonimsky was a Classical musician, but a Genius in the armony music. I have his book, and I teach guitar using his precious "theasurus of Scales and Melodic Patterns". Really a Genius, and the Maestro Frank Zappa. Thank you for posting this spreech!
@AustinShowen
@AustinShowen 15 жыл бұрын
Slonimsky was such a genius! His scales and melodic patterns book is mind-blowing!
@TheKwaze
@TheKwaze 13 жыл бұрын
Who would have thought at the time that he would outlive Zappa?
@perfectlyperfectpoint9090
@perfectlyperfectpoint9090 5 жыл бұрын
This dude was my grandfathers teacher, and it is even better knowing he also taught Zappa. Full circle
@ranchsmith4892
@ranchsmith4892 3 жыл бұрын
He never taught Zappa. Where did you get that?
@martinusdegrootste
@martinusdegrootste 2 жыл бұрын
Zappa studied his book Thesaurus
@taylorfusion
@taylorfusion 6 жыл бұрын
such a sharp and generous man, Slonimsky.
@RalphLindner
@RalphLindner 7 жыл бұрын
"Music is music" good said! And a wonderful accent - as a german this english is perfect for me to understand ;-)
@Gallowghoul
@Gallowghoul 6 жыл бұрын
lol :D
@MedardKrzisnik
@MedardKrzisnik 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful man, Nicolas Slominsky. And immortal Frank Zappa, a great inspiration. What can a man do, if he has love, determination, interest in music, such passion to read scores too.
@BrownSoldier96
@BrownSoldier96 5 жыл бұрын
I love the way he pronounces Varese. Great recording.
@stuffupthecracks
@stuffupthecracks 15 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. Slonimsky's comments seal Frank's musical reputation.
@TommyLikeTom
@TommyLikeTom 3 жыл бұрын
Was just learning about this guy and it's really surprising that he was alive recently enough for us to have a recording of him.
@criddycriddy
@criddycriddy 5 жыл бұрын
What an amazing man ... Beautiful ...
@7Beyonder
@7Beyonder 12 жыл бұрын
Greggary Peccary is truly the historian. Ive always loved his channel....not only for Zappa stuff...but other 20th cent. music that Ive never heard of.... contrary to popular opinion...some black people do love this music,.
@jubilman
@jubilman 15 жыл бұрын
always the same with GreggaryPeccary he doesn't only allow us to discover and enjoy very valuable and rare gems but gives us also very interesting infos on the material. Thanks for what u do Greg !
@TheFlutecart
@TheFlutecart 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. You can feel the friendship there.
@ranXerox09
@ranXerox09 12 жыл бұрын
fantastic, dude! thanks a lot for sharing this stuff
@piccolina721
@piccolina721 7 жыл бұрын
Frank Zappa was the music Mad Scientist .
@tinnitusthenight5545
@tinnitusthenight5545 7 жыл бұрын
Slonimsky was more of the scientist thats part of why zappa respected him so much
@AlexDeLarge1
@AlexDeLarge1 4 жыл бұрын
Zappa, Slonimsky, Varese, Stravinsky and Schoenberg were all the mad scientists of music who truly made it what it could be.
@mynameisandycostello
@mynameisandycostello 15 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for posting this... Slonimsky is one of the most monumental figures in all of 20th music.
@JapaneseModernist
@JapaneseModernist 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Nice lesson
@pepper669
@pepper669 9 жыл бұрын
Touching.
@robinjones363
@robinjones363 2 жыл бұрын
How wonderful 😀
@j4unumber1
@j4unumber1 15 жыл бұрын
Frank preferred to devote himself strictly to classical compositions, but he felt he could be more successful as a music artist dabbling in other genres. He was able to do this quite well also. A true original. Overall, Frank Zappa is among the upper eschalon of sound artists of the 20th Century that most people probably never heard of. Thank you GreggaryPeccary for the music you are offering.
@davidleemente
@davidleemente Ай бұрын
Slonimsky tells this story in his book- Perfect Pitch that also has great stories about being Kousevitsky in Boston I highly recommend that book - funny and erudite
@SteveSparx
@SteveSparx 14 жыл бұрын
Two Geniuses
@evomoralesCO
@evomoralesCO 10 жыл бұрын
Great.
@jackc1986
@jackc1986 2 жыл бұрын
my mind is reeling 😢😮❤
@AdamSteinzOfficial
@AdamSteinzOfficial 14 жыл бұрын
Absolute Genious.
@ettoredipugnar6990
@ettoredipugnar6990 9 жыл бұрын
Zappa was an intellectual.
@pangeaproxima3681
@pangeaproxima3681 9 ай бұрын
Indeed.
@reidwhitton6248
@reidwhitton6248 Жыл бұрын
What a character! If you're looking for an interesting read, get a copy of Slonimsky's autobiography, Perfect Pitch. It's a hoot, full of humorous stories and interesting history of 20th century classical music.
@ryanaiden
@ryanaiden 2 жыл бұрын
What resides in this mans chest is the closest thing akin to a heart of gold.
@777cc777
@777cc777 15 жыл бұрын
music is One great
@pedroleal7118
@pedroleal7118 Жыл бұрын
Credit where it's due! I'll be dwelling/diving into Slonimsky's Thesaurus of Scales and Melodic Patterns! Take care! ps yes I know Varese's work and own the total of his recorded works, compiled by some obscure label!
@kipponi
@kipponi 2 жыл бұрын
Nice words what anyone wants to hear. Zappa humorously said he learn all music theory etc. from library/books. Maybe because no Julliard ha ha. So go to library...
@gepmrk
@gepmrk 2 жыл бұрын
Slonimsky wrote a book called 'The Lexicon of Musical Invective': a compendium of bad reviews of orchestral works including composer's responses to those reviews.
@smorrow
@smorrow 4 жыл бұрын
Where did you get image at 2:30? It doesn't look like a picture, it looks like a still from a film.
@DeathRattlingWhore
@DeathRattlingWhore 6 жыл бұрын
1:14 How is that word spelled and what does that mean?
@jackmerlotdoesntliveherean9652
@jackmerlotdoesntliveherean9652 5 жыл бұрын
I think it is onomatopoeia for a cello or something? I don't really know I guess!
@famednacclaimed5336
@famednacclaimed5336 4 жыл бұрын
I think he just stopped and said “uhhh” for a second before recalling the electric piano he played on
@albertog7245
@albertog7245 Жыл бұрын
Have you never heard "Aaa..Loo...Aa..Ya..Ooo..a" before? Come on, dude. Get with it.
@Brianjonestown
@Brianjonestown 15 жыл бұрын
There's the real Zelig
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