these two alone create 95% of the business in the neon lights industry

2 introverts trying to handle a conversation

Two of my favorite directors in a room talking to each other? Sweet.

Gaspar doesn't need to sell his films like others because of his noticeably distinct raw talent.

Gaspar is such a lovable soul.

These two geniuses have actually met in person?! 😲 I'm in shock right now!

two of the most polarising directors of all time, love it that they know who they are as directors and dont give a shit what people think of it.

The 'bedroom scene' in 'Irréversible' works perfectly the way it is, because it's so restrained compared to what's come before.

Finally i find the point in wich i disagree with Refn. Watching movies on Iphone is wrong way to expirience film. Wich is ironic, considering how cinematic his own films are.

I was thinking before that Nicolas Winding is crazy director. After watching this video, it seems that Gaspar Noe is much crazier than him.

Both phenomenal directors. Shut the fuck up and admire the things none of us could possibly began to create.

I NEED 5 HOURS OF THIS!

Gaspar's eyebrows deserve a horror movie.

Noé: “Nowadays people care more about the timing of a movie than the quality” Refn: “I like that.” 😐

Two of my favourite directors

I think these guys are my two favorite directors.

Refn strikes me as pretty insecure somehow. Tends to deflect negative comments or rephrase them towards Gaspar. Gaspar himself seems to have an extremely affected way of talking, bit of a neurotic, very introverted. Interesting to see the contrasting personalities.

FUCKIN HELL... This goes to the uploader of this clip: "I CAN'T TELL YOU JUST HOW THANKFUL I AM FOR PUTTING THIS VIDEO HERE, IN WHICH WE COULD SEE TWO OF THE VERY FEW, GREATEST YOUNG DIRECTORS IN THE EUROPEAN CINEMA IN THE LAST 20-30 YEARS (along with Lars Von Trier, and a few others, like F. Akin and others...of course)!SO, THANKS YOU, THANKS, DANKE, GRAZIE, GRACIAS, БЛАГОДАРАМ, HVALA, СПАСИБА..." These two fellas made two of the most impressive films in Europe, in these last 20 years: Noe - "Seul Contre Tous" & REFN - "Valhalla Rising", along with "Breaking The Waves", "Gegen Die Wand", "Before The Rain", "La Vita E Bella", "Dancer In The Dark", "Assassin(s)", (of course, all these others I'm mentioning, aren't their films, but come from other directors. I'm naming them, just to put them in a context, that they're among the best as well)...and quite a few others ( but it won't be cool if I start naming each and every one I find to be amongst the very best since the 1990's till today)! Thus, thank you again man....

I don't particularly care for either of their full body of work, although there isn't a doubt in my mind both of them are extremely talented people who express their creativity in vastly different ways. This was fantastic to watch.

as a native English speaker, I am incredibly surprised how English is becoming the 'lingua franca' for Danes, Argentines, etc, etc.

Two of my heros

The holy Trinity of controversial filmmakers would be Lars von Trier, Nicolas Winding Refn and Gaspar Noe. I would pay to see that Interview.

the future of film (audio) is brightly coloured, if they are directed, edited, mixed.. created.. for iPhoney film buffs..

Gaspard Noe was extremely inspired by the first Pusher film from Refn. That is very clear… however Noe has a more Extreme approach than Refn does. I think they are hard to compare.

This interaction between the two is completely eye opening. Refn is extremely narrow in his potential and the potential of his art form. His ideas are forced and systematic. Even his thoughts and questions and the way he addresses himself towards Noe is unconsciously condescending. This light reveals a lot about why they do what they do. Refn wants to be a great filmmaker and Noe wants to just make films.

wow...2 of my favourite directors. Its like when u play a porn of ur favourite pornstar and find ur another favourite also in it.

the only difference between these two is noe's talent is raw true,

I've seen Gaspar Noé compared to Nicholas Winding Refn before, but I wonder how much of that comparison has to do with their usages of violence, and maybe colour? Because beyond that, I wouldn't really liken their films. Refn (and I say this as someone who really likes his movies) belongs very much to the artsploitation class like Dario Argento and Tinto Brass. Whereas if I had to find Noé a spiritual counterpart, this maybe a hot take, but I'd go with Rickard Linklater. Tonally, the two couldn't be further apart: Noé practically lives in the darkness, whilst Linklater is light, and real-life, almost to the point of being mundane [but never committing the sin of being boring]. However, both Linklater and Noé seem determined to represent certain aspects of life (and death), that we seldom get to see, and most importantly, to do it _truthfully._ They are both directors who use their cameras to capture truthful moments and emotions, and tell stories that ring equally true... even if that story is about a soul being ejected from its body and drifting through time and space. Even their explorations of time, whilst wildly different in approach, arrive at similar places. _Irreversible_ ends on a card that reads "Le temps détruit tous." ("Time destroys everything") but Noé has said, in interviews that the card almost read "Le temps dévore tous." ("Time devours everything"). Now watch _Boyhood_ or even the _Before_ trilogy and try not to see the Wolf of Time lurking in the background. In short, Linklater and Noé may be telling fictional stories, but they refuse to lie.

this was before the neon demon

I loved Valhalla rising but refn really fucked up using that cgi blood, everything else is so natural and real that the blood really takes away from the movie.

meus bebe

i love this two but by the end Nicholas seems to be provoking Gaspar

le choc des titans !!

Maestro meets Maestro

It seems that Refn wanted to extract Noe's technique, but he asked too directly. I would imagine that he should have been subtle.

Was this filmed in munich? Thanks for the upload

I don't know why Refn thinks movies should be seen in small screens...his films are specifically made to be watched on the biggest screens possible.

Refn is not a good talker. He wants to imbue everything he says with meaning and intrigue, solely because he loves his art that much. However, he fails to do so and instead comes off as pretentious and condescending, mainly because of the language barrier and him being awkward in general. But, like with most artists, we see his best self through his art, because he can whittle down, analytically, all his mistakes and unclear thoughts into what he really wants to express. P.S. I find these two guys to be the most interesting directors in film today.

The goats

At 24:08, whats the name of the movie Gaspar is talking about? I cant clearly understand when he names it.... ;(

Refn calls the 5D a "D5".

25:21 😬

I think Refn was joking about the iPhone stuff

I've only seen "enter the void" and "irreversible" also a couple music videos from gaspar. Will someone please recommend other things from him that I might be missing out on?

imagine if they both made a film

How Gaspar Finances his movies: Seul Contre Tous: Its Low budget Irreversible: Monica Bellucci and Vincent Cassel and fake Tarantino genre + Pre-movie of Seul Contre Teus Enter the Void: false reference points Love: Cannes loved enter the void

I get watching movies on i-phones. I do. At an airport, on a train, a road trip, board at work, etc... But, I never watch something for the first time that I really want to see on a screen the size of my fucking palm. I want to immerse my self in it, feel it, let it surround me and possibly transport me out of this world, escape the grind so to speak. But, I'll make sure from now on, that when Nicolas Winding Refn has a new film out, to watch it on my phone to pass the time while standing in line at the cinema to see Gasper Noe's new one.

i will never watch a movie on a phone sorry Nicolas i agree with Caspar if not at a movie house then i will download watch at home with a good sound system at home

12:08 he cannot help himself, bragging about being in the presence of the great Jodorowsky. There is only one great director in this video and you don't get a prize for guessing who it is.

22:39 Watching What?????

These guys don't seem to gel together like I thought they would. Their mutual respect is apparent, but it's still a bit awkward.

A Masterclass by two very discticted directors of how to fuck with the producers 😅

Refn is one of my favorite directors but I prefer Pusher, Pusher II and Bronson to Only God Forgives or The Neon Demon. I think he gets in his own head too much, he's too deliberate in trying to make movies full of symbolism. He doesn't need to make straight-forward movies, he can be weird and experimental, but he literally removes 80% from his screenplays and then movies like The Neon Demon just seem way too stripped down, not enough substance at all. but he has displayed moments of genius. but this happens to all good directors. Tarantino gets in his head too much. Even Christopher Nolan who I think works well with smaller budgets but loses his grasp on the story and the script when he's given an unlimited amount of money to work with

I hope Refn was being ironic about watching movies on an iPhone, if he's serious my opinion of him has gone down a tad.

Refn is a genius, but pretty pretentious

I vehemently disagree with Refn at the end there, I think Refn is forgetting what makes cinema good and set apart from just brainless entertainment

man, Refn is a really boring, flat speaker. Love hearing Noe speaking tho

Tu passes un message pour j'ai un mot de passe pour toi parce que moi je peux espérer moi je respecte tu as toujours mal jamais il m'a proposé un film qui passe parce que jamais j'ai trouvé un film en retard moi j'ai une amie Clara je donne un grand respect pour moi à tout les publics quand je vois ce côté un film comme ça je touche pas parce que tous il va croire parce que moi je dors à toi je veux voir le film avant j'ai touche X3 collège parce que toi tu es un symbole à tout les journal je vais l'espèce beaucoup parce que il y en a des critiques mais moi je vois pas les physique parce que tu es un homme le film extraordinaire mais tu es méchante et merci et bon vent pour le chemin qui travaille à toi parce que tu es un film pour 10 jours qui travaille quand tu vois un film tu as démoralisé toutes les grandes respect à moi parce que moi chez Leroy Merlin pour vivre je ne le bonjour tu vas continuer monsieur je continue avec toi tu es pas continuer passe-moi un message parce que tu es mon frère à tous les moments de m'excuser

Refn is nothing compared to Noe

Why did I see this, now I don't like Refn :(

I feel like they're Bergman and Tarkovsky of this century cinema

Refn is insufferable