NIETZSCHE’S FAVORITE BOOK (Conversations with Goethe)

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Nietzsche said of this work that it was “the best German book there is”. For the last nine years of Johann Wolfgang von Goethe’s life, Johann Peter Eckermann journaled about their conversations together. Goethe was a celebrity at the time, and destined to be remembered as perhaps the greatest writer of the German language, certainly of the 19th century. Eckermann, on the other hand, was a farmboy with a talent for copying - whether it was the artwork of Ramberg or the poetic style of Korner. When he met Goethe, who was in his seventies at the time, the young Eckermann looked up to him as the greatest of poets, and wanted nothing more than to record all of his wonderful memories with Goethe. In this work we find no narrative arc or rigorous structure, but simply a series of thoughts and feelings. It is a portrait of Goethe rather than a story about him, and offers a fascinating view into a different time and place.

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@dionysian222 3 ай бұрын

Goethe the shining example that genius need not end in self destruction but can grow old and wise! Thanks as always Keegan!

@ArmwrestlingJoe 3 ай бұрын

This channel is awesome it’s the only channel I trust on the interpretations of Nietzsche

@m1ar1vin 3 ай бұрын

I agree. Though I like Weltgeist as well for basic understanding on Nietzsche

@untimelyreflections 3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@ArmwrestlingJoe 3 ай бұрын

@@untimelyreflectionshave u ever considered making a video on yukio mishima? Nietzsche’s influence on him can’t be ignored plus he lives a very interesting if not Dionysian life.

@abrahamlincoln9472 3 ай бұрын

To me; this channel, Weltgeist , and Uberboyo are the three best Nietzsche channels.

@raginald7mars408 3 ай бұрын

... as a German Biologist - I bought both Eckermann and all Nietzsche Books still in HighSchool 1973... and always scrutinized them to the Elementary atomic level. It is a taste forming experience like the study of Classical Music when you can play BACH on the Piano all day long ... and climb up your own Mount Everest with dedication to cherish each single step The para Doxx is - when I do anything just this single second it is Nothing like when I run a Marathon each single step is nothing it is the strong strict perseverance to go this way that creates the Path And is does not matter who will ever care for my accomplishments it is one example what YOU can do each single step... this is about an internal Image I have

@dragongirlguitar 3 ай бұрын

I greatly appreciate your work. I went through school for philosophy many years ago. I’ve been an ardent read of Nietzsche for 25 years now. What you are doing on this channel is excellent. Definitely one of the best on KZfaq!

@banquotheholstein 3 ай бұрын

I am very excited for this episode, I read Conversations with Goethe over the summer and was dismayed to find almost no discussion online about it. You are really going above and beyond with your podcast, I can already see it remaining as an extremely valuable resource for years to come. Thank you again for all the hard work.

@WizzaStrap 3 ай бұрын

This Channel is Incredibly Based

@dannyteal1020 3 ай бұрын

It’s a fabulous book, I’ve read it. I understand that it was a favorite of Nietzsche.

@olavhv5666 3 ай бұрын

Another first-class episode! Love these forays into other characters using Nietzsche as the common thread. You don’t seem to struggle for material, but if I might make a wish: Nietzsche and Mark Twain.

@cheri238 3 ай бұрын

Why is there not a transcript of you speaking on this? This is reciting words of biographies within the boundaries of historical events of some of our greatest philosophers', writers ,events of whose hands were in power, in Germany, France, the beginning of conquest in the American Revolution and artists of paintings all evolving with Goethe's life. Eckermann was brilliant and I love your cherry picking of these writings. 💘 What a treasure trove of gems and shapes and values!!!! How riveting are your words brings all events to life with extraordinary insights. As is today we are in the most contentious events our world has ever seen in the evolution of all societies of the breaking of social structures in 2024. This will be my second time to listen to this one again. Then I have to finish the one on Nietzsche and Spinoza that I haven't responded to as of yet.

@untimelyreflections 3 ай бұрын

KZfaq will automatically generate a transcript, you can find it at the bottom of the ep description. While it's bad at proper names, it is usually mostly accurate.

@cheri238 3 ай бұрын

@@untimelyreflections I am not very good with cell phones, but I thoroughly had a wonderful afternoon. Thank you again for your insights. I love Goethe and Nietzche.I love your pocasts, and I aquire more knowledge of books that I have a passion for. When you mentioned Lord Byron, Percy Shelly, and Mary Shelley that all three passed away before thirty the two men had, but not Mary. Mary Shelley died at the age of 54, born August 30 ,1797 -February 1, 1853. I loved all of them also . Very interesting lives. Mary never remarried, and at Percy 's cremation his heart did not fully burn and she kept in her desk for 30 years until her own death. There were only the remaining son of 5 children they had it buried with him upon his death.

@untimelyreflections 3 ай бұрын

@@cheri238yes, you’re correct, I was thinking only of Percy, although I think I also mentioned Emily Bronte. Her sisters also died at a young age (tragically, it was quite possibly from water tainted by the graveyard!)

@drgordo112 3 ай бұрын

I'm slowly but surely making my way through this playlist!

@Company12 3 ай бұрын

Great analysis and comments to reflect on. Thank you for your work!

@bradrandel1408 3 ай бұрын

I just cannot believe how good and helpful your work has been to me. Blessings to all…🕊🦋

@severianconciliator1862 3 ай бұрын

Excellent video. I’d never heard of this before and now it’s on my TBR list!

@vinista256 3 ай бұрын

Really enjoyed this one and hope I can get my hands on a copy of the book! Speaking as someone who has seen the effect of heart failure on a few bodies, though, I find it incredible that the corpse of Goethe would have been such a specimen of manly perfection. It would be more likely for his limbs, face, and abdomen to be swollen with fluid and for his skin to have pits when you pressed into it. I suspect the spirit in which Eckermann wrote the final passage is unabashedly romantic, like the tale of the Count of Sternberg’s heroism in Moravia. He was portraying Goethe as he needed to remember him, and as he wanted others to remember him … which is fine. How interesting that Goethe was haunted by the masters of the past and then went on to cast a shadow over subsequent German literary figures. He and Beethoven, who wrote an overture and incidental music to his “Egmont”, must have felt quite a kinship. (Beethoven, of course, cast a similar shadow over musicians, to the point where Brahms couldn’t bring himself to attempt a symphony until he was in his 40’s). Note on German pronunciation: the “g” is always hard, i.e. EGG-mont, TEED-geh, etc.

@rosanna5515 3 ай бұрын

Simply the best. Thank you, Sir🎉.

@fasihodin 3 ай бұрын

While back I listen to your love letter to your audience, here's what I think: the love letter must be for you to thank you for your channel, not that you need it, to continue to put out podcasts, not that you need it and please keep up the great job you are doing, not that you need it.

@khanshokat 3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@louisferdinandceline777 3 ай бұрын

Amazing breakdown

@carlyellison8498 3 ай бұрын

Just downloaded the pdf, thank you!

@userin1804 3 ай бұрын

This was great!

@stillverseDri 3 ай бұрын

i found this book when i was in high school! i completely forgot till i saw this title... fond memories of simpler times flooded me.

@ggrthemostgodless8713 3 ай бұрын

20:12 "'... beware of embarking on a great work; this is the mistake that our GREAT minds make, the very people with the most talent and the fiercest ambition. I made the same mistake myself and I know what it cost me, there was so much that came to nothing..."" This is counsel for GREAT minds, so he wasn't talking abut average minds, I imagine, he states this specifically. So what would he recommend for the average person?? Plus, I think he can give this advice, but a man such as he was made, mentally, cannot avoid doing exactly what his obsessions demand of him, this is also a Nietzschean problem, as he felt he had little time to do his life's work?? I also wonder if he had married or hooked up with that woman, Salome(?) what would his life have become after that point?? But overall people like this cannot help themselves in following great works, that is precisely what makes them great, like asking a lion to act like a sheep to enjoy his life a bit more... can't be done, I imagine. HOWWWW can it be done by such men??

@bryanescamilla8333 3 ай бұрын

hey I just recently started going through some of your episodes and I love them all so far! The ones on Deleuze and Spinoza were really great and inspired me to start reading the Ethics (just started yesterday and finished the first part, loving it so far!). Sorry if this has been asked before, but would you consider doing an episode on Dostoevsky? I devoured that man’s books and would love your thoughts on him and parallels between him and Nietzsche. Keep up the good work and stay frosty 👍

@darillus1 3 ай бұрын

Keegan does an amazing job of braking Nietzsche down into easily absorbable bite size pieces.

@userin1804 3 ай бұрын

38:55 Warfare as productivity

@LoneHeckler 3 ай бұрын

This is very good

@jakesmith2160 3 ай бұрын

Homie, if you reference a text drop the link. I gotta surf the internet anxious about picking the right version/translation

@palawanjungledays3099 3 ай бұрын

Grazie Mille

@kasparhauser5357 3 ай бұрын

Rarely understood in its deepth and scope even in Germany, probably the most complete picture of man ever been drawn in literature.

@SamuelJFord 3 ай бұрын

I've been listening to your podcast for a few months now, superb. My favourite philosophy podcast, this run you're doing on other philosophers has been great.

@DionysiaSapentia 3 ай бұрын

It’s hard to keep up with you Keegan ❤

@kiddikbum 3 ай бұрын

One of your best, If I may.

@phillipjordan1010 3 ай бұрын

I'm going to order this Conversations book. I have a question. Is the book "Nietzsche Genius of the Heart" by Charlie Huenemann, a worthwhile read or a flop?

@untimelyreflections 3 ай бұрын

I highly recommend Huenemann's book. He expresses some opinions on Nietzsche that I don't fully agree with, but any mature reader can deal with disagreement, and he puts forward a very helpful understanding of how Nietzsche's thought developed. Some of his discussion of the importance of culture in N's Untimely Meditations was very helpful for me. His understanding of eternal return is also very much on point, and he was one of the first commenters on Nietzsche who centered his illness, another thing which has been influential on my understanding of him. It's short, to the point, and has some fun little segments that venture into creative fiction.

@phillipjordan1010 3 ай бұрын

@@untimelyreflections good deal I will definitely tackle that book. Right on Salts🤘🐐🔥

@James-ll3jb 3 ай бұрын

It's a fun read!😅

@RichardBrent90111 3 ай бұрын

Would I be able to pay for an hour of time to ask questions about Nietzsche and philosophy monthly? I am new to Nietzchean philosophy and want to learn more.

@rb5519 3 ай бұрын

42:17 "but with the royalists who have the executive power... justifying their measures in public prints". That seems an all too familiar phenomenon of those in power. It almost seems a sine qua non of power. It's not enough that you accept that I have power over you. You must agree with me when I tell you it is just.