"The Last Man" that Nietzsche spoke of is spot on for today’s society. Though I have always felt that Peterson intentionally refrains from fully explaining why Nietzsche disliked Christianity so much. He nitpicks specific quotes and ideas from Nietzsche and overemphasizes them to support his own beliefs. He never explains the full picture to his audience, sometimes even misrepresenting it entirely. Peterson probably does this on purpose as Nietzsche’s ideas and beliefs on Christian morality are almost polar opposite to his own. Yes, Nietzsche did predict leftist bullshit, but he attributed it to liberal egalitarian thought which itself is rooted in Christian morality, all men are created equal and be altruistic type stuff. Nietzsche blanketed all this under what he called Slave Morality, and leftism is this taken to the logical extreme. "All men are equal, so any social inequality exist because of evil people and so they must be removed, only then will we have an egalitarian utopia" JP loves Christian ethics and sees it as the key to fighting leftism/nihilism and so never talks about how Nietzsche literally blames it for being the slippery slope into leftism. Also the revaluation of values (flip your values and morality is a better translation) wasn’t something he predicted but something he thought up of as a way to get folks out the slave morality rut which dominates modern world. This entire redo of morality towards a “Will to Power” is what leads into the idea of the Overman (Übermensch). Edit: To elaborate on how modern leftism is based on Christian morality. Before Christianity the dominate morality of Europe was a might makes right type deal, “The strong do what they will, and the weak stuffer what they must” Literally a line given to a city by Athenian diplomats right before they exterminated them, they cited them simply being “weaker” than Athens as justification for this. Back before Christianity, the "good" was the noble, the strong, and the powerful, the “bad” was what lacked these things, the weak. Christianity and Late Judaism, as Nietzsche held it, were born out of and spread by the slave class of antiquity. Out of resentment for their masters they created their own morality by flipping the dominate morality which subjugated them. They made being humble, empathetic, timid, kindness and weakness “good” and all things that the “master morality” held as good they made “evil”. They lacked power in this world so they gave themselves the power in the next, as in heaven for them by being weak and kind with hell for those who oppressed them. It’s all about resentment of the powerful, like what you see today in modern leftist thought. I would recommend anyone reading this to read Nietzsche’s genealogy of morals, familiarize yourself with Nietzsche’s concepts yourself before questioning me as if I invented it.

Thanks for selling our government out to jews, chinese, Mexicans, and blacks. I love living in this country hehehee, I definely don't want this entire country to collapse.

​@@WestlehSeyweldthis just sounds like a nihilist vent in regards to a religion they aren't a part of. Failing to see the point of the perpetual struggle of dealing with the evil people so defined by a liberal leaning ideology. What's the point? Well if you don't believe in Heaven and moral good that Christianity aims for then why would you go out of your way?

@@waynechrisco1163 Just go read Nietzsche for yourself, everything you mentioned in touched on heavily across in his writings. I am not gonna paraphrase for you.

@@WestlehSeyweldTotally agree with you, I'm quite aware of this in fact, thank you for mentioning. Also I would add that Nietzsche was was aware even of the irony in his own writing and knew that his writing could be considered a criticism of Western thought (like by Foucault) or otherwise misquoted. That's why in Twilight of the Idols he likened himself to a man in a garden full of statues, throwing rocks at them to see which break. He knew he could be construed as an ironic figure and felt that he had to embrace the fact. The fact that he inspired much of the conflict he predicted I'm sure would have been bizarre even to him.

The death of wisdom is the biggest catastrophe as dr Peterson stated. And what is wisdom? Probably one of the most profound verses ever written in history if you can grasp it fully “ fear of the lord is the beginning of wisdom “

​@@barrywhite36 Everyone thinks they have something insightful to say, nothing profound about it. A truly moral system requires consistency to function and you wont get that adhereing strictly to the jewrag/bible/quran. There are some downright evil prescriptions in there you will never convince me are acceptable.

@@grapenut6094 where do you get your moral compass from ? If your an atheist, you haven’t got one. Good and evil is just down to your opinion and interpretation

If you think your a bastion of absolute moral authority and light to the world , I would just say , we all have faults and all of us are blind to the evil in our hearts. Whether you like to admit it or not , we all bend the knee to a god. Some peoples god is money , some it’s lust . Or even worse , people that bend the knee to the state as the highest authority.

@@barrywhite36 This is ideological nonsense to me. You cant just divide by zero and then act like 2+2=5 is an acceptable answer throwing a tantrum like some toddler whos just been told that toy dont belong to him. I own myself, your fist ends where my face begins, you spit in my face dont be surprised when I spit in yours. These are the types of values that kick started America, they came about despite religion and they arent yours to claim. Regardless where they came from, the enforcement of your beliefs comes from the state so thats your problem as well, its not unique to me.

damn near two centuries ahead of his time

We have "telescreens" in our pockets all the time, they can listen and know everythig we do all the time

Just like Kanye

Brother, Orwell was like two headed person. I do not think Nietzsche was like that.

​@@sleeperino3054you must be joking

Exactly

True, but how you cope with that? Look at you

@@FermanEduServices I dont find it necessary, therfor i dont need to cope. Coping is done within a situation, so changeing ones situation makes it unecessary to cope. You have to look at yourself and your own situation inorder to escape the coping

The only problem is that Jesus has defeated death. He is risen. And there are now more Christian’s than ever before btw. Not much of a death, just a localized decay of western civilization. Atheism is a fad that will wash away in a matter of generations

Yes, the death of community values. God connects us to one another and provides the context and foundations necessary to build strong communities. When self worship becomes the norm, the sense of community dies. Slowly and painfully. The fact of the matter is that humans are religious creatures - take away their God/s and they will find something else to worship.

Don't confuse atheism with nihilism or egocentric and narcissistic charactistics. People can develop (consciously and unconsciously) any number of characteristics, values, and principles. The removal or absence of a god / religious figure enables people to think outside of a primitive cognitive framework that explicitly condones incest, wife-beating, battery and intolerance. One can be conscientious and not religious. Community values can be taught or acquired without beliefs.

He is talking about nihilism which is not about self worship it is about worshiping nothing, believing in nothing , having no values, no interest in anything.

@@NegativSpace-pd6cz There is nothing good about worship, respect yes but not worship. If God is really and good then God would be appalled at the idea of anybody worshipping him. If God is real and demands worship then God by definition cannot be all good.

@@criticalthinker8007 You miss the point. Human's worship things no matter what, it's in our nature. Look at celebrity worship in the our day (e.g. young girls screaming because of The Beatles back in the day), or the worship of gods and deities in times past. The definition of "worship": the feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity. Also I never said "God demands worship", try to pay more attention when you engage in a debate. My point is, if you don't choose your gods/God carefully, you will end up worshipping some lesser one. Worshipping yourself is not a great thing to do, nor is worshipping other human beings. Find something that transcends matter to worship, something that will see you right through your life, even in the face of death.

Bwahahahahahaha

He's lying tho, NIETZSCHE BLAME CAPITALISM FOR GIVING BIRTH TO COMMUNISM, AND HE HATED RELIGION SPECIFICALLY JESUS

But would he have rejoiced or feared the consequences of the lose of faith in God?

@@kiwisaram9373 maybe read "Der Antichrist" by Nietzsche. Should give some insight into it.

@@kiwisaram9373Both. He feared the looming threat of nihilism but saw it as a chance for self realization as well.

Based take

Yeah what is more totalitarian than a capitalist entity like Amazon? What power does a warehouse worker have against god king Bezos?

I am a huge fan of Peterson, but make sure to cross reference him with other thinkers and those who have found flaws in some of his thinking. He’s not perfect (nobody is) so it’s important to be mindful of not holding him up like an idol and worshipping him.

Be careful brother it sounds like you’re darn near worshipping the guy. He’s a human being just as you are.

Listen to his daughter moan? You are sick.

@@troythemighty3683 well said

It's bloody unfair on a human being to idolised them We are all flawed humans

Jordan is a fraud. Lost all respect for this hypocrite bastard.

Not correct

God transcended

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BUAHAHAHAHA!!

That's right!

LOL!

A well-dressed liar.😅 Question: Jordan Peterson claims Nietzsche said in The Will to Power that 100 million people would die due to communism. Is this true? He says this around this timestamp in the video when discussing Nietzsche. I did a CTRL + F search in The Will to Power for every time Nietzsche says "communism," "communist," "socialism," and "socialist" and none talk about any quantity of deaths due to it. Is it safe to say Peterson made a false statement? Answer: He also says that Nietzsche had already predicted the rise of communism in his writings "by about 1850." ...But Nietzsche hadn't written and published anything until 1871 (!) Clearly a false statement! I think this gives some insight into Peterson. He isn't saying 'because of the rise of communism' which is actually a more charitable interpretation to give him. Instead he says 'because of the rise of communist ideas". For Peterson we don't even need the presence of communism for bad things to happen, we need the presence (whatever this means in terms of ideas) of communist ideas. Peterson has a weird view of ideas, he thinks ideas have special causal powers so he gets freaked out when he 'sees' these ideas around since he thinks that the very presence of these ideas in large numbers signals that something is going to happen. Not only is Peterson's view of communism whack, but he also just totally gets wrong how communism has historically formed. No historian worth their salt would ever say that ideas caused communism. The closest we get to Nietzsche talking about dead people and socialism in The Will to Power (which wasn't published until after his death in August of 1900): //In the teaching of socialism "a will to the denial of life" is but poorly concealed: botched men and races they must be who have devised a teaching of this sort. In fact, I even wish a few experiments might be made to show that in a socialistic society, life denies itself, and itself cuts away its own roots. The earth is big enough and man is still unexhausted enough for a practical lesson of this sort and demonstratio ad absurdum--even if it were accomplished only by a vast expenditure of lives--to seem worth while to me.// So there's no prediction about millions of dead. We should not interpret 'life denial' as 'killing people' -- notice how he says we need to see the life denial even if it ends up killing people. The core bad thing about socialism is the life denial aspect. He's not even making a prediction about the vast expenditure of life, this is not the thing he expects. Life-denial is related to the Stoics, the Christians, the Herd, it is not exclusive to communism. This sort of view about how socialism will be a form of life denial is in contrast to the revolutionary spirit that thinks communism will be something new and better. Nietzsche thinks that it will perpetuate the same. I mean really look at what Nietzsche says next if you want a good idea of what Peterson is leaving unsaid. //Still, Socialism, like a restless mole beneath the foundations of a society wallowing in stupidity, will be able to achieve something useful and salutary: it delays "Peace on Earth" and the whole process of character-softening of the democratic herding animal; it forces the European to have an extra supply of intellect,--that is to say, craft and caution, and prevents his entirely abandoning the manly and warlike qualities,--it also saves Europe awhile from the marasmus femininus which is threatening it.// This is the real threat as Nietzsche sees it. Feminine decay is the biggest threat, the loss of the 'manly and warlike qualities'. This is what Peterson is gunning after I think, but he just doesn't want to say it outright (order = white masculine hero, disorder = feminine black snake). Socialism is at least holding back the feminine decay of western society present in the democratic herd. Peterson's fear about how socialism will kill a lot of people is totally not what Nietzsche is saying here, or his main target, and I think Peterson knows this. Nietzsche's main target in this book is not socialism, but the fact that the democratic here 'softens' and kills the noble as best seen through Christianity: //What is it we combat in Christianity? That it aims at destroying the strong, at breaking their spirit, at exploiting their moments of weariness and debility, at converting their proud assurance into anxiety and conscience-trouble; that it knows how to poison the noblest instincts and to infect them with disease, until their strength, their will to power, turns inwards, against themselves--until the strong perish through their excessive self-contempt and self-immolation: that gruesome way of perishing, of which Pascal is the most famous example.// In short, notice how when Peterson talks about how bad communism was he always brings up the Gulags and how bad they were and how bad it is that millions of people died. But this is not Nietzsche's worry with socialism/communism. He is more worried about the 'life denial' aspect. Also value creation and self-creation probably doesn't operate at an individual level.

Lol idk with that half red half blue suit he’s been rocking

Nah not all men wear archaic dress clothes

He dresses that way, more than likely, out of respect ❤

@@hillary1161 . A $38,000 suit? Out of respect for what? His own narcissism? (Lol)

Plot twist: he was talking to Mia Khalifa, it was a typo

Although I think the existence of a personal God is unlikely, I choose to believe in Him, because I think I need Him for my mental wellbeing. My belief is a deliberate choice. Not too interested in church or any formal religion though. Just a personal God. Someone who is all good, and who loves all of us. And who is always there for me.

@@pmw3839 shouldn’t that say something though? The very fact that God is necessary for a society to function properly and effectively provides real psychological, logical, and emotional improvement in people by itself says something about the human mind and design. We really are made for relationship with someone Transcendent of ourselves. Also, Its good to be in church but unless you actually believe in what they teach, it won’t give you the fullest result because believing in the resurrection is fundamental in all of it (John 15). If you’re curious, I would recommend reading Cold Case Christianity, Case for Christ, or Cross Examined’s “I Don’t Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist.” That or listen to some of their videos on KZfaq, they provide pretty substantial evidence for the resurrection and existence of God.

This god you are worshipping, is the deity of fortune. Look up H1408

@pmw3839 Sounds like it could be any imaginary character

@@adamgates1142 Human beings are religious by nature (look up the religious impulse - Carl Jung). Take away their Gods and they will find something else to worship. We should therefore worship the highest good we can possibly conceive of, to avoid worshipping false idols. So in a way, no, it can't be just "any imaginary character".

You Lucky

I wish I could’ve seen him in either city, Amsterdam is in my country, but I’d love to see Northern Ireland as well!

indeed hes a spectacular speaker@@danny9905

thank you @@bugwild1544

President of wheres that?

Hold it against him? Lmfao hes still human homie xD why tf does it matter where hes from?

​@@PhilipIIofMacadamiain the USA, you must be born in USA to be president. I think what was said made perfect sense. You like to go around mocking people?

If anyone could reduce the deficit, it’s a psychology university professor turned guru

Heres exactly the antithesis of what Dr. Peterson fights for; the silly bickering of some of these comments. Instead of addressing positively, to save lives and enlighten, as Jordan does, you unenlightened ones bicker, as the Titanic is sinking. Canada has cintributed to the world one of the greatest most godly human beings on the planet. For that alone I will always be grateful for that country. This iscwhat a REAL MAN looks like. God bless him forever.

I forget who originally said it but; "History doesnt always repeat, but it certainly rhymes."

we needed a Savior. Jesus is He. Humanity separated from God, lost His image, i.e. character...God provided the saving grace of changing usringingbus nack into alighnment with Himself through the Messiah. This is one of the reasons for hatred for the Jews. Salvation IS of the JEWS. Fallen man, trapped by the enemy...caused this breech. The Spiritual warfare is what its about. The Good News. God wins. Jesus is the 2nd Adam. The Last Adam. The God/man which God intended.

@@rocalmeida9739 Tell that to Hamas, then come back and tell the rest of us how it went.

What "plan?" You do realize that if there is such a plan, the "god" that is its architect is a monster.

Nietzsche called this anti life death cult view ascetic nihilism. The weak cope and wish for destruction to evade the hard times that would leave only the greatest men standing. Christian doomsday being a wish tells you the profound depths of the faith's psychopathy.

​@@jacobus57you must discern the difference between God as ultimate cause and God as creator enabling free will in creation it's just lazy thinking to blame God for anything that happens you don't like if He isn't doing it

​@@jacobus57Youre theologically bankrupt. You are presupposing God is bad, when in reality, God is all that is good. We are the secondary cause, and allows for ultimate free will. You wont learn this from the bible, youll learn this from the Catholic Church. This is how we come to understand God

​@@joe5959you do realise being theologically bankrupt is a complement, right? I.e. you can distinguish fantasy and fairy tales from reality. Read some history books instead of a bible that condones incest, rape and battery.

Since you're the expert, how about you put forth both sides of the argument: that Nietzsche foresaw a totalitarian regime to replace religion.

It seems to me that the nuance of any influential thinker is lost by the populizers, in part to serve the agenda for which purpose they are popularizing. The scabbard is thrown away once the sword is unleashed for war.

@@willek1335 Statement "God is dead" in his work "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" wasn't explicitly a judgment of whether the death of God is a good or bad thing, but rather, it expressed changes in religious and philosophical beliefs in modern society. Moreover, Nietzsche had a critical stance towards Christianity and religious authorities of his time. He believed that traditional religious beliefs had lost their influence and significance in the modern world and were being replaced by other ideas such as science and individualism. The statement "God is dead" symbolically marked this shift. Since you don't know much (maybe only that you love Peterson so much) I do not intend to have a free lecture.

What it appears to me JP was referring to was what Nietzsche referred to as the "Last Man" or "der letzte Mensch." A consequence of rejecting traditional values in favour of nihilism. The resemblance in values between the ideals of the last man and the movements JP mentioned sufficiently match. Edit. The second part, appears to stem from Nietzsches views in On the Genealogy of Morality where he discusses the "origin" of the last man i.e. Slave Morality. We may also take a page from Beyond Good and Evil where Nietzsche explores herd morality and the dangers of conformity. I'm curious, who are these debating scholars ... were referring to?

@@willek1335 For example, Walter Kaufmann, known for his interpretations of Nietzsche that emphasize humanistic and affirmative aspects of Nietzsche's philosophy. Gilles Deleuze who explores the processes of achieving subjectivity and creativity through destructive forces. Martin Heidegger, whose interpretation focuses on questions of existence, authenticity, and ontology. He does not view Nietzsche as the "philosopher of the will to power," but as a philosopher who poses questions about being. However, while I clearly like Peterson, in this video I find it pretentious to suggest that Nietzsche in any way leans towards the idea of God and is (N.) through it united in some way in the fight against the lefties. N. ideology is primarily personal, full of aversion and disgust towards God, Christianity, or anything implying a herd and collectivism concept. In my opinion, all beforementioned simply doesn't allow "packaging" which is done in the video.

Funny. No, Nietzche got it right later than that date. I think Jordan made a mistake in speaking.

Nietzsche was born in 1844. 😅😅😅

Nope he is not. Sadly he died, and we all are going to die tooo.

@@aakankinskywalker384 My Dear Skywalker. You think He's dead? Just ask Him. I triple dog dare you. 😄😁😊 Yep, that's right. I'm goin' straight to the triple dog!!

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@@NegativSpace-pd6cz You are happy to take that as a point. Peterson is quoting Nietzsche as though he is a reliable source of fact, he is merely a source of a biased opinion. It plays well to the right wing crowd, as does becoming a $$$Christian$$$ all of a sudden. 🤫 'Don't mention the Drug Hypocrisy though' 🫣 Bad for book sales when the narrative is founded on a lie. Money is a Bluebottle to Peterson and he the Chameleon, changing colours, swivelling his eyes at the prize then out comes the new opinion at 70mph 😂. Rules for thee but not for me.

It’s not a 50/50 guess if you have a reasoned position for one versus the other.

Nietzsche despised politics, be it right wing or left wing. Left wing for its will to equality and right wing for its adherence to values. Politicians were just as bad as preachers to him. Dont take any of JP’s takes on Nietzsche seriously, I doibt he even read him.

@@Brien831 I'll never understand all the ad hominem attacks on JP. "I doubt he even read him", why say that when you truly have no idea whether he has or not? Do I detect a hint of jealousy?

@@NegativSpace-pd6cz I suggest you read Nietzsche. Survey what he means by “God is dead” and how Peterson misrepresents it. It isnt an ad hominem, it simply is a suspicion I voiced, stemming from his obviously superficial knowledge. I recommend reading Beyond Good and Evil or at least watch Weltgeist’s videos on the matter, that channel has very decent interpretations. At least see for yourself, wether I speak honest or not.

Agree, JP misrepresents the most basic of Nietzsche’s ideas.

And in 1850 Nietzsche was 6! Either Jordan Peterson knows next to nothing about Nietzsche (and projected his own opinions onto him), or he's losing his memory, or both.

peterson cherry picks from everywhere to support his insanity.

Franco was worse than Stalin? Mao?🤔

Everything seems like common sense after it has already happened.

Mate… honestly… Maybe it is… But it wasn’t.

Its ideology, the death of god had nothing to do with the decline of western values. Speculate all you want but it could just as easily been caused a million other factors.

Just because something makes sense to you after hearing someone articulate for you, doesn't make it common sense.

Pray the rosary in these times; all of this was foretold by Our Lady of Fatima in 1917. She said just as it looks as if the whole world is communist, her Immaculate Heart would triumph

I would encourage you to read Nietzsche, he doesn't like religion at all. In fact, he was happy that God died, this meant "Humans, now are free, and we can set our own values". Nietzsche believed Christianity was ideology for the weak. The weak, are so sick of life that they had to create another where everything is good in order to not feel so sick in this one. SO AFRAID TO LIVE, SO READY TO DIE.........

In Nietzsche's words "Faith moves no mountains, but it does place where there are none"

You’re confused. Christianity has caused the confusion. God is not a man. Jesus is NOT God.

If you believe the myth that turned a sage into a god and the continued distortions of his teachings by followers who totally missed the point🙄

NOT TRUE

That not evolution 😂 Communism is going backwards , it’s not evolving in any way at all

marx was a joke. communism is the sign of a broken society that lacks hope direction stability and morals

If it was natural it wouldn’t have to be enforced. Which has happened 100% times.

Degeneracy. Not evolution. Not by any stretch. Communism is the literal excersize of the proverb of the road to hell.

@@mrawesomeDK tell that to the ants

Figure it out it's almost just a simple message but he makes it sound convoluted

That’s understood. What JP is pointing out was how Nietzsche identified communism as the ideology that would replace religion and cause great destruction in the following century.

@@New-Moderatehow is it understood? He made an elementary factual error that my point directly contradicted. He also entirely fails to account comparatively for the crimes and sins of capitalism, which are certainly no less enormous.