12:20 "no iron player plays that aggressive" i have seen iron players that are the definition of aggression. i played with a guy who didn't even take out the tier one tower, and still fought 3 guys at their inhib tower.

This series is revealing the logistical nightmare that league has become

Riot should really release a new champion that every time he died, he goes: "Still... Winnable..."

You're very unlikely to win the 1v5 without paid actors. With a reset champ maybe but the issue is they can play so many different versions of a split and the assignments don't have to even be that good and they still win. I think a better challenge would be 2v5 with 5 bronze players with a minimum of 200 games played this season still in bronze. This would also cut down on the smurfing.

90% sure none of them are iron xd

These are at least gold smurfs. No way they are iron lmao. I think this gimmick is already dead. The first time it was spontaneous but now people in your chat know what to do. You need to grab iron players that aren’t in your chat. Doesn’t help they ghosting too

Quite possible people are creating fake iron account in a attempt to snipe your stream. Also, the champ matters, no matter how good you are, numbers count... I can only see this being done with Trynda Sion or Master

you know what would make it more like an iron game? having 4 bots in your team. so enemy would have fed laners. now you don't have useless feeders as your teammates... and enemies can't get free kills. also bots would hold the lanes a little, you wouldn't lose the towers so fast. if you do a round 3 add 4 bots to your team.

You are definitely just underselling them. I am considered bronze but still do things youd consider high level. I practice wave management, am comfortable tower diving, and keep relatively high cs (8.5-9 per minute). Im not saying im good, just that we are seriously slept on. TBF, ive only ever used one account so its super deflated with the games in my learning phase

to all people claiming those players were not iron - imho they very much can be iron a friend of mine was stuck in iron for a long time - he mostly played as brand/morgana support he pressed skills (not all of them and some missing, but he tried, you know) he warded, he had basic map awareness (aka looking at the ward in the river for a gank) he made reasonable imho macro decisions the only real problems he had were not dodging abilities, lack of proper spacing, and very poor mental - he would run at enemies in lane, die pretty much 1v2, blame his adc for not playing, and then tilt for the rest of the game plus he just didn't play often enough to climb out of iron so from my experience, iron players can "perform" quite well - yet you can clearly see at 33:40 that they have 3 items while nightblue has 6

Totally happy to see a re-match! I would still love to see you climb from a legit hard-stuck iron account in Ranked. Would give some educational value on how anyone can climb with the right skill and knowledge. Granted I guess it might get hate for smurfing.

These 1v5's are fun, I would suggest enemy team isn't allowed TP though. Enemy map presence is just to strong, Also ban infinite scallers for the enemy team. That should make it "more" fair. I've tried making rules for 1v5 love to see others do try 1v5. Also if the enemy team gets too many tanks they can just chain CC & kill you, even when they are behind. It is such BS. Those are some of the biggest issues I've run into, can't wait to see the next 1v5 good luck. ;)

Still would be much more realistic if you also had a team of Irons with you. So the impact of one "better" player would be more visible.

They kinda ruined the challenge, they are not iron xd

I am betting my own life that those are not iron players

Nightblue KZfaq channels have been on point this few months I’m loving it

Damn this series is amazing

Been waiting for this. posted 1 minute ago lets gooo

This series is so good to watch, I only wish if actual iron players join these games. These guys definitely bought iron accounts and played with you. Especially zed, there is no way in hell he is iron.

you should play as a laner, that way you can get kills during laning phase instead of farming jungle and being behind in level

After this, do a 1v5 bronze, silver, gold etc, good content i feel, at least fun to watch! keep up the good work my man👍🏻

unless they were trying to drag the game out, they just needed to have 3 lanes pushing at once. He can only be at 1 lane at a time, and I’d be amazed if he can win after giving up all the platings.

Yeah..1v5 actually helps the Iron players focus. Maybe take 2 iron teammates and carry a 3v5. The 2 iron will be like bots anyways

If you do this again, I'm pretty sure lilia would be very strong (that or maybe rek sai ?) to be able to go around the map at mach 5 with grat depush. (Super minions might be a problem ?)

The 3 iron 1 guys all had 10 or less wins, would be better with legitimate hard stuck iron players. There's a good chance those iron 1 players would eventually climb out with more games played.

Second rematch plz, it's so interesting to watch

I'd love to see this again with Kayn

It would be interesting to see this with ascending rank/descending enemy count. 4v1 with bronze players, 3v1 with gold players, etc.

You could go for Ex, Khartus with Teleport & Smite.. so you can cover more of the map with TPs.. Or someone who doesnt need flash and play instead tp

Should do this against silver or gold players, but you get a Yuumi on your team

Yes finally it's here

Don't stop this series until you have won at least one game. I have friends playing in iron and they play way worse than the people in this game. Do some due diligence and get some real irons.

If you want to 1v5, You gotta play a 1v5 champ, like Master Yi, Yasou, Yone, Kat....etc, it's unrealistic to pick lee and think you can win unless you can snowball all 3 lanes ( which is impossible to be at 3 places at once... ), it's not possible to push into them before they take down your tower, so it will drag into a late game, so any early game champ is honestly out of the question.

Round 2 baby! Round 1 was hype!

Even if they aren't iron, it really doesn't matter. It's not like any of them were even remotely high rank for sure. The 'contest' is supposed to be about whether ELO hell is an actual thing or a skill issue anyway. So even if some of them were gold or above, it really doesn't matter. It's not like you're not going to run into smurfs on solo queue.

Hecarim, Loads of aoe, great jungle clear, wave clear, great to fight a lot of people, you got this with heca.

feels like theres a third ep

You should go with Teemo. Build Nashor, Runaan's, Liandry's, Rylai's and Rabadon's. GG.

unless you can pick on release xin zhao, there's no way you can win 5 players, even if they are iron.

i think completely alone is impossible, cuz you wont find time to push really

I’m waiting for round 3 !! 😅😂🎉

I smoked before watching this and didn’t realize he was 1v5. I was wondering where his team was half of the video😭

my strategy if I were the 5 iron: Trundle - Hullbreaker, always far from the team splitpushing and taking towers whenever possible (Ghost/TP) Ziggs - atk speed boots, nashor and lichbane, melts towers, should focus on getting them if the nb3 dies anytime. (Exhaust/TP) Lulu - BoRK, main team DPS, point'n'click CC. (Exhaust/TP) Pantheon - Point'n'click CC, helps pushing waves if needed. (Ignite/TP) Rammus - Point'n'click CC, full armor/mr, can tank towers without minions if needed. (Smite/TP) everybody at early game ziggs and lulu go bot, pantheon mid, trundle top and rammus jg. If nb3 go jungle like this is just a free win by taking the towers super early and they'll overwhelm them with map pressure. If he picks an assassin like rengar, master yi, kayn... the point'n'click CC will probably shut him down if the iron just clump in a deathball. If he got something like xerath, with insane range and clearwave, then the team splits and overwhen whit trundle and ziggs on side lanes melting towers. Rammus also could run to catch the imobile champions. With so much tower destruction power any death would probably be GG after 20-25 minutes.

20:04 Zed acting smug as if he's not playing 5v1

23:45 : stoneplate : 15% cdr 60 arm and 60 rm + 10*champs rm/arm + activable shield 32:35 : imo sell boots for stonepalte or FoN or Deadmanplate.

5v1 always win a pushing game. The thing with iron players is they want kills but only for someone killable 😂 if they know they can't win a killing game, they go for the pushing game. At that point, they're the winner

This really shows how lowly people think of us iron players. We study, we watch videos, we play with higher ranked people. I tried ranking when I first started 11 years ago and a couple times after that and since then I always get placed in iron even after clawing my way to silver twice gaining 9 lp on wins and losing 36 lp on losses.

Axiomatic arc was the call

maybe possible if they are at champs they don't normally play, otherwise looks like undoable due to lack of minion clear in lanes

instead of farming his Gromp in the mid-game, he needs to use push into roam tactics to keep the waves pushing and secure turrets.

Imagine playing against 1 champion and picking Illaoi, Seraphine, Rell... And you too dude, this would be so much easier if you picked something like Bel'Veth

Do 2v5 gold with Trick2G

trust me, tanks like alistar is so powerful in this game mode. you get cc chained forever and tanks really do kill you with their base damages

"no iron player play these aggressive and farm so well" : they do. they just don't think about it when fighting 5 person. But leave an iron alone, and he will farm, get confidant, and yes, get aggressive : he can finally stuff !

i like this idea but can you make one with brozne? then you pick one on you're team from gold or emerald?

let's wait for part 3 of i thought i could beat 5 iron players and failed miserably by nightblue

Ah, I was wondering why jungle looked fun and like an actual role and then I realized this was prior to the disaster in .20

This series is really fun to watch. Though, i feel there may be some misconceptions about iron. NB3 is right. It is insane to think its impossible to climb out of iron. However, climbing out of iron is harder than one might think for a few reason and some of these things contribute to the poor mentality there. To break it down: 1.) Not all players in iron ARE iron for lack of a better way of saying it. Skill(Mechanics) , Knowledge, Mental, and arguably the most frustrating... effort widely vary in iron. Some people straight up just don't care about winning or losing and are playing "team" death match. Be sure not to take this type of player's kill, they might run you down. 2.) In a well adjusted and ideal ladder there would be VERY small population in challenger AND iron. however this is not necessarily the case due to intentional de-ranking account sellers, bots, and inactive players that don't have or don't want to spend a significant amount of time to climb. 3.) I think most are aware that matchmaking from what riot has revealed over time functions in a manner that utilizes people on upward and downward trends in an effort to balance most users at around a 50% winrate in their approximate rank related to their rating. This is one of a few...adjustments that can affect how a game MAY play out. Another example would be receiving, an "easier" game after being inactive for a few days or a significant period of time. 4.) Lack of control and increased pace of the game has decreased the value of individual skill and knowledge. NB3 made a good reference to this in this video where he talked about needing a zzrot portal which would be very effective in scenarios like this where he plays alone, or in a soloqueue game where you have unreliable allies to put it lightly. The increased pace makes it hard for "True Scaling" champs (kayle, master yi, etc.) to solo carry a game which imo are the only types still able to in its current state. 5.) Removal of Ally summoner names in lobby and dodge restrictions remove control from a player to save time on games that are likely to be a waste of time. These events listed above make climbing out of iron without an extreme gap between oneself and their opponents take a considerable amount of games which most people are not willing to play. (Myself included)

using leesin in 1v5 reminds me of Garou vs class A heroes

"They think im coming.. i mean i AM coming!" "I like hard things" "I might have to wip it out" Are you trying to tell us something?

These are pretty fun.

NB3 has a talent to pick worst possible champs for 1v5

never seen a "pro" missing that many skillshots

13:47 that chat voice comment in the backgound is not so wrong :D

You're going to need a lot of picks early to make it work. The longer the game goes the worse it will get.

my suggestion for another 1v5 champ - camille/fiora mobile scary stat-checkers with a lot of damage

I think will be good for you if you make a rule only to kills minions no attack to towers and jungler for sure

I think u should go smite but without buying the item till min 14.... so u can farm normaly on lane and after min 14 u can take on the jungle item in less than 5 mins....

Yo i was just watching the vod

27:50-From this point i already know the match is lost! If you can't 1v5 them with full build,then it will keep getting worse and worse until you lose,because they can still buy items to get stronger.

30:04 "I like hard things!" -Nightblue 2023

Definitely think Ekko would be a valid champ choice due to fast clear speed, and ability to outplay/5v1 with ult

Use the infinite scaler kindred

Video Idea : Nightblue vs 3 Diamonds

Bro there is a role that never play lee in low elo 😂

Gotta pull the Quinn pick, wave clear, movement speed, vision.

winnable as almost any champ that can work with ghost/tp. should be able to win/make picks in lane into any iron in almost any match up.

Bro just needs to pick something that can actually 1v5 like Viego with mad resets or some raid boss champion

from the time frame of the 2 vods i was iron on the first one's release and now i am bronze so ya its possible

Surprised he doesnt do something like talon for this. Someone with a board presence ability to get around fast. Rek sai maybe.

Did they nerf Graves into the ground? I f not, that could work. Some range and a lot of damage.

you just refuse to believe that the average gameplay of players in general is better

My boy you became iron 😢😢😂

Nocturne is probably the play for this

Just need a jungler that can full clear fast and still rotate to catch waves like kayn, hecarim, etc...

Me waiting for nightblue to just play akali and 1v 5 them finally

I was hardstuck bronze/silver before I quit league, took a break for a couple of years and played around 2k hours of albion and wow. Came back and climbed out of iron in 2 weeks in jungle. Its 100% possible - yes they are terrible and you have to carry but if you genuinely believe all iron are usless but you arent... Then theres 5 useless people on the enemy team and only 4 on yours. I was so suprised at how easy it was for me after just understanding pvp fundamentals better from albion and wow arena and just watching some guides and actually applying them. Follow the 80% sucess chance rule i leant and YOU WILL climb without a doubt. "is there an 80% chance i get this drag, is there an 80% chance i kill on this gank" and you have to think solo, not 80% if my iron fizz lands a max range ult does a backflip over the anivia wall and then flash Qs him... its not realistic, they are iron. Im now gold 3 - highest ive ever been - i know its still low but for me who was hardstuck bottom elo it feels great!

I found a genius comment here in case you didn't see "He should play flex on iron account with 4 premades who would go afk."

They do play like iron players i think most people just dont realize iron player’s generally have some sort of fundamentals at least in high iron

this game shows the issue with the ranked system. in an iron - silver game you can have people with extremely different skill levels and because its so hard to carry when the enemy have a good team, people find it extremely hard to get out.

People are calling fake but as a high iron - low bronze player, this looks normal

It would be better with 5 iron players... not 5 iron accounts

Quite possible this is not Zed's first game. (just a thought)

At least require them to have 50 games played so that you're 100% that they're actually stuck in iron lol. (The Zed is not Iron) I still say you get a full 9 iron players and just show that it's easy to carry a game as long as there are bodies in it.

Season I and II flash backs, with games not having a jungler ...

Honestly next time try Rammus jg. Normally everyone just builds LDR, but this is iron. Wonder how long it'll take them to figure out they just shouldn't hit you. You could try crit Thresh too. Use the statik items, it's insane. Zwag did a video on it, disgusting one shots, and they can't chase you. If they group up your first auto is a fullcrit jinx rocket on steroids. Obviously, take Hubris.

the problem is that lee sin is inconsistent due to the skill requirement, which is downgraded by the intention to be entertaining.

the problem is people just try there best to feed while you should face 4 full items enemies and 5 if your enemy notice and roam so even if you can outplay someone who have 2 items and you have just a core item you cant do the same shit against full team so thats why there is some player in iron better than gold/plate players

he asked for Irons but he didn't asked which year are they stuck on Iron, those guys have been there since Aphelios release.

Confirmed! Challenger cannot climb out of iron!