Rhaenys knew her injured dragon couldn’t outfly Vhagar back to Dragon stone. She decided to go out fighting instead of running.

@@surfntrucks apparently no,Meleys is the fastest dragon during the dance of dragons.

I love that they are keeping that catspaw dagger as a prominent prop for the story. I would love to read it's origin story. It was passed down from Aenar (the one who left Valyria just before the doom) and found it's way to Aegon the Conqueror who had the premonition of the fight with the Night King. I'm guessing someone told him the story of "The Song of Ice and Fire" and he was convinced he was the prince who was promised. (But it was Jon Snow)

No worries .Daemon will take revenge for team black...

FYI Vhagar is a girl. She’s known as The Queen of all Dragons

I took it as Meleys being like “I’m sorry I couldn’t protect. I did my best”.

@@kristymcdowell6185 totally agree 😭

Meleys: "We ride together . . ." Rhaenys: " . . .we die together."

@@darthken815 i’m soooooooo broken

oh yeah they know exactly how to get to us

She is for sure but Aegon being dead/maimed and Sunfyre basically dead/handicapped is a huge loss as well. The greens lost so much for a castle that isn’t all that important.

​@@jphart9896 pour salt in the wound, geez.

@@jphart9896 lmao at you posting this on multiple comments of people that like rhaenys trying to get a rise out of people 😂 so petty 😂

@@jphart9896yeah no one’s buying ur little rage bait buddy settle down 😂

@@danno1375 True, but she did that to herself. She has nobody to blame but herself.

@@srichardf their bond is one of the best

@@gailf1617 I wish I would have seen that, too. It looked like Sunfyre really loved him, and he really loved Sunfyre. He should have taken his dragon and just left this sh!hole and live happily somewhere else

Or he just do "nothing" :v

His dragon and his first kid gave him happiness.

​@@agirlnamedsilkas if he could survive.

😂😂😂

It's such a great subversion. Daemon is the first to fly out for war and now he ends up stuck fighting hallucinations while everyone else is putting in work on the battlefield.

His turn will come, and it'll be 100% worth it.

@@fromheaventoearth5779Literally what an absolute unit.

Being useless like usual nothing new

@@zawa7497 100% I feel like thrones fans want another joffrey to hate but that character really isn't Aegon. For all his faults nobody can ever accuse Aegon of being a coward.

@@RobertSawney exactly,he's just a needy dude who was never taught how to rule. He never even wanted the throne

@@RobertSawney W comments

​@@zawa7497Funny enough that "joffrey" type of character is actually cole. I Found alicent kinda annoying in their conversation. Girl you put him on a throne he didn't want with no preparation how did you think it was gonna turn out

​@@RobertSawneyI dont think cole and Joffrey are comparable but the hate they get sure is. And yes,alicent was annoying this ep

Even when he's riding his dragon he speaks the common tongue baby Luke could speak better valyrean then aegon.

@@Cadinho93 Meleys : mom?.. I’m sorry..

Perfectly exemplifies his mother's lack of teaching him and her retardedness dude didn't wanna be king to begin with 🙃

Hmm no.

@@thatoneblackdude3333definitely not😂

they both didnt die

@@mirceadacialorantbrescia4340 but so injured

@@BFG100 and?

@@christophermichael7997 i was hoping that the dragons say f that shit we are leaving 😭

That felt very much like the relationship between Hiccup and Toothless in HTTYD to me

Really? Great. Thanks for making me cry more! 😭

I cried when they both died ❤

Team Aemond!

Thala for a reason

Good riddance

@@heyitslisa_ 💔 😔 and what they do to Meyles in the next episode is revolting and grotesque.

That was one hell of a death. Went out like a true dragon rider. And then there’s me naïvely thinking you could’ve gotten away!

@@madelinegarber7860 she absolutely COULD have gotten away. She had the fastest dragon. That being said if she retreated to dragonstone Vhagar likely just follows her and gets a easy shot at killing the dragons on dragonstone

@@Splishy27 that’s fair. Though I thoght initially that she was leaving. Also the opportunity to rid the greens of their biggest dragon was too good to miss. She quite literally went out in a blaze of glory.

Imagine if she just cooked the Greens while she had the chance. Rhaenyra would be sitting on the throne and Lucerys would be alive. And then in episode 01 of this season, she refuses to ride with Daemon to kill Vhagar. And now she dies because of it. Rhaenys might be the dumbest character on the show.

Then why does he suck at riding him so badly that TGC seemed like mad they made him have to be so bad. It’s a weird switch because the only reason they bullied Aemond is because the other 3 boys had dragons so they bonded over dragons and aemond was just tagging along to their lessons but apparently Aegon didn’t learn how to ride a dragon properly yet riding white often in the books. I’m not a greens fan in any way but I think they did this to further make Aemond look like the actual Targaryen because they’ve been painting Aegon as Viserys and Aemond as Daemon so they couldn’t have Aegon be better at it than Aemond despite him having the largest dragon and being smarter and the superior warrior. Not the mention luckier… I’m sure the ‘Aemond wives ‘ will be thrilled and blame his sucky skills on Rhaenyra

@@Zarab923I think Aegon legitimately never expected to take a dragon to war bc he grew up in a time of peace when he was a kid. He just never thought it’d ever get to this point. Aemond wasn’t an heir so he knew he needed to prove himself (esp after taking Vhagar) as a dragon rider. Aegon never took anything seriously and they just let him be that way growing up and then they’re shocked he doesn’t know how to do anything.

It's been suggested that Rhaenys was somewhat sui*idal because, on top of losing her two kids and a 'grandson', she just found out that Corlys cheated on her and has a illegitimate son. At that point, it's possible that Rhaenys couldn't take the pain of heartbreak and betrayal anymore. But wanted to die in a way that would be considered honorable and worthy of the Targaryen name.

I knew Rhaenys but I didn’t know Aston would fight too. This battle surpassed my expectations.

@@paulhewes7333 definitely! I felt sorry for Sunfyre, Maelys and Rhaenys

@@paulhewes7333 I cried too

​@quanchi3723 it was painful to watch. I was angry when she turned and said, "Attack Maelys" I'm saying no just fly away, hide, it's not worth doing more, just get your dragon out of there. P,ut her life above it all! Then bam, they were at the mercy 🥺 of Vegar and Aemond 😪

@@lovesomeone7285 Dragonriders aren’t to be cowards when battle arrives you fight, die in battle is the highest honor

Deamon fighting his own battles 😂

Daemon took too many edibles

He’s fighting his own demons😭

it just hinders the action, i fast forward

​@@RoxanaGpFighting his own daemons

Absolutely. His experience on the battlefield is significant.

she just went on self-off mission with Vaghar

​@@fantasiazplatkamiVhagar is the biggest threat to TB. After the Dragonpit event, she likely felt a sense of duty to stay and do what she could to protect her family and side.

Yeah si knew she was not going to go but there I was yelling at her to go away just gooo 😢

I don't think she can escape from Vhagar. Vhagar biger and faster more than Meley too much. So just fight to die, can't run.

@@ViHa-yh4ed actually meleys was a very fast dragon if not the fastest so she could’ve outrun vhagar cause she also very old the point being I knew Rhaenys would’ve never run from that fight

fr she was the best! it's gonna be weird not seeing her again :(

She was one of the worst characters and I felt nothing for her death. I felt more for the dragon's death.

Betrayal of her husband??

@@amaebarnes his bastard offspring.

She came off as knowing about that and being long over it. He's a sailor, she knows what young sailors are like and doesn't seem to hold it against him.

I will cheer as loud as I did when Ramsay got mauled by his dogs

Littlefinger didn't have a satisfying death. The writing had gotten so bad by that point and LF was turned so stupid that there was no satisfaction from his death.

Starks 4life!

i'm glad they understated it.

Freaking broke my heart!!!!

Nahh, she shouldn't have been queen. She killed thousands of small folk for no reason because she then didn't kill Aegon at his Coronation. She rocked but the small folk send their regards

@@kittylemeu1373 She wouldn't have killed any smallfolk if the Greens hadn't held her hostage in King's Landing and then held a rushed coronation right above where all the living weapons of mass destruction lived.

@ade9499 she was also killed by her daughters dragon that also killed her "grandson"

@@kittylemeu1373 She wasn't going to leave without her dragon. She would have made a great queen, better than the other men who held the position.

@@melissagreye8445 she could have left the normal way? Not through the ground killing thousands of peasants? She's worm food now so we'll never know how good a ruler she would've been

F Vhagar. I hate the dragon as much as the current rider.

So true Vhager is blahhhj

love Aemond and Vhagar, but im definitely not team green. Aemonds story is Tragic, just on the wrong side.

Vhagar is still the most interesting dragon out of all of them, given it's history.

Yes, remembered as a traitor who served maegor with teats. lol

She was considered THE swiftest dragon alive

He's trying to make himself a double kinslayer and a kingslayer.

Aemond is psychotic.

He actually did it pretty intelligently. Sunfyre is getting torn to shreds by Meleys so the only way Aegon could be saved is aggressive intervention from another dragon which is exactly what Aemond did. So he can pitch it as would you rather Aegon be dead or wounded?

​@@philippeblais8594Attempted kinslaying and kingslanding.

@@gudhaxer41343 Emphasis on trying.

@@crisc1049 joffrey is worse . He can't be compared with anything.

I just find it insane people compare Aegon with Joffrey, like yeah Aegon isn't worthy and a piece of shit, but man he is better than Joffrey in every sense. And dude atleast has balls and can fight.

If Joffrey had a dragon he would rush to war too

Joffrey wasn't a coward, was a vicious and cruel kiddo but had the strenght to rule, the problem was his granpa Tywin, is a problem that Aegon and Joffrey share. For example Tommen was eaten and forced to the suicide by the same religious that Maegor burned like 400 years ago...

@@rajkumarn.t4581I would argue the one point Joffrey has against Aegon is that he isn’t a r*pist.

@@uBeezy there gonna be more epic dragon battles like this one this season? 👀

​@@ivansantiago1615yeah theres much more epic dragons battles like this still coming, but idk if they would fit them this season or until next seasons

@@savoir12A thats sad, how many episodes does this season have? 8?

@@uBeezy dude it began when Jaehaerys was behead not before not after

@@ivansantiago1615 oh yes, and the best of them is going to include Daemon (obviously). After this episode I have faith that they will not screw up that fight. The ending of that battle will probably be THE most epic moment of both HotD and GoT.

@@osky529 I wish all the dragons would wise up and fly away from the green and the blacks and save themselves from this madness.

I still can't believe Vhagar has all it's teeth intact all these years and chew down melys throat.

@@lovesomeone7285 yeah unfortunately targaryens are all they've known their lives (Except for the cannibal he got sick and tired of the targaryens and flew away to his cave and just wants to be left alone hope we get to see him in the show)

This time because she hid behind a castle and cliff, presumably, and last time because of the clouds

That's exactly the reason... experience. Vhagar is ancient, and killed countless dragons. Look at large birds of prey, they often attack by surprise, even on smaller prey.

@@GreenFalcon926 exactly! Meleys had a good shot at atleast disabling Vhagar, but considering she'd just been grappling with Sunfyre and got caught unaware by Vhagar the first time it is no surprise this happened. Smart by Vhagar and Aemond to use the cliffside. I do think Caraxes and Meleys could have had a very solid shot at killing her, like Daemon said.

@@GreenFalcon926 she didn't killed countless dragons mate... at the time of the conquest she still was a young dragon, so its safe to assume she never fought a dragon by that time and the 7 kingdom didn't have dragons to fight too. She never fought other dragons before the dance of the dragons. she fought countless battles, that she did, but she never fought other dragons before.

It's a little annoying how the show makes a big deal about Vhagar's size only to have every kill be a sneak attack.

Oh stop! Literally ride together die together.

WHY DID YOU JUST MAKE ME CRY ALL OVER AGAIN?!?!?!

@@keanancupido she is all of us! I couldn't stop crying as soon as Rhaenys had her pep talk moment before they left Dragonstone. So incredibly well done.

@@skumar93323 ahhh same!!! My anxiety started when she volunteered to go 😭

@keanancupido I was screaming SEND BAELA WITH HER but how could they have known 😭

@@skumar93323 If Baela and Jace were there they would have won easily 😭

@@BFG100 You're saying it's pathetic to share pain with the dragons? I don't think you like fiction then.

She gave him council, sit back and let the smart people take command, he couldnt even do that. I swear to god, people are looking for reason to hate Alicent (yeah shes a bad mother)

i agree with this take 100% i’m team black but felt so bad to see him die when he wanted nothing to do with this from the beginning

​@@spookyspooks33he is not dead

@@MrBuzzcake A few days after his son is murdered, she basically tells him he's worthless. That's not her offering council in good faith, that's her taking out her anger/frustration on Aegon.

@@MrBuzzcake I was defending Alicent for 2 years during the break, it's not my fault the writing of her character is do bad that she stopped making sense. She knew his son died a few days ago and he wanted to prove himself. Telling him " do what's is expected from you : nothing" was super harsh and even the reactors were shocked. She didn't do anything except complaining or betraying him ( let Rhaenyra leave). Not once she suggested how to win the war or make peace. I'm not even mad at Alicent but at writers, she was different till episode 8

BINGO!

@@Ashbrash1998 Otto and Alicent are the most dangerous people to the Targarean family. Otto using his daughter Alicent for his own needs and greed for power. Then Alicent misinterpreted what the King said while dying in bed. Put her reluctant and idiot son on the throne. It's gross that Alicent became a step mother to her best friend, turns on her then put her child on the throne. And to top that off she has Aegon marry and mate with his sister🤢. Otto & Alicent would be on the top of my hit list along with all the heirs. They should never been born into this mess.

Yup that's why I love aegon he didn't want to be king to begin with he had 0 teaching about how to be king no good teacher at all by his side idc what anyone says Otto is a horrible

Facts!

@@Ashbrash1998 no on will like this observation about Alicent. She is drinking tea that is aborting a child. But why? Why can't she keep her child? She's a widow, so she's not cheating, is it because of who the father is and she doesn't want it to be public info?

Except the writing makes no sense. In the books, Rhaenys didn't flee because she wanted to inflict some damage, she and aegon fell together. In the show, she already has beaten Aegon and just goes back just to die basically and she knew it as well. Lol

@@jbr6371 yeah i hate that

@@jbr6371 Yeah exactly, like she could've left and the greens would've been the only ones a dragon down.

@@jbr6371except she probably knew that Aemond was gonna follow her with Vhagar anyways so she might as well stand her ground and try to take out or at least attempt to seriously injure their biggest weapon. Even if there is a small chance. Big risk with big reward.

@@jbr6371 ikr? The whole time I kept thinking "omg, she took him down, maybe they're changing it and she can escape" but she kept going back for no reason. That was frustrating. She's smart, she must've known she can't take vhaegar alone

I didnt think of this but its true! Rhaenys was so loyal and i loved her.

I mean that ignores the whole "Rhaenyra might have killed my son" thing that happened. Rhaenys warmed up a bit to Rhaenyra but she's only in it for her granddaughters.

Rhaenyra betrayed her too. She's still the likely reason her son is dead (we know he isn't, but Rhaenys doesn't)

​@@kailanerman5090I think Rhaenys knows that Rhaenyra had no part of Laenors supposed death but actually he just left Westeros to do his own thing, and Rhaenys knows it now.

@@schemeteam2954 I highly doubt she could have guessed all of that. She might put her faith in Rhaenyra as a monarch, but considering her quick marriage to Daemon and his... lack of morals. I'm sure Rhaenys believes either he did it under her order, or he did it, and Rhaenyra just hasn't punished him for it. I think she backs Rhaenyra 1) she trusts her over Aegon/the Greens 2) more importantly for the safety of her grandchildren

She thought she likely would die, but in no way did she think it was a kamikaze mission. 30 seconds before she and Meyles took Vhagar down and likely would have won if not for Vhagar being crazy stealthy for some reason

Caraxes is longer, but likely weighs much less

Caraxes is flying spaghetti noodle though so probably breaks even with Melys when strengths and weaknesses are assessed. But I think they needed both to take down Vhagar in a 2:1.

Bro needs to come back from Luigi’s Mansion and get back in the game

Have we forgotten Vermithor?

​@@Velshin1986 Vermithor is currently riderless

The Dance is a tragedy, especially for the dragon's. Caraxes and Vhagar have a deep and closely nit history. Vhagar and Caraxes were ridden together by brothers, then lovers, then enemies.

There are ppl who loves their animals more than their kids so I'm not surprised.

​​​@@schemeteam2954love them much more than random ppl

@@alexandrewatisse762 the dragons are innocent. It's not their fight. They are being forced into a war that is not theirs. I wish the dragon's love and loyalty wasn't so strong for their riders.

@@lovesomeone7285 Uh, well they were bred for war. And they being lizards probably do not form attachments the way mammals do.

@trottheblackdog I think it's sad. They have these incredible creatures, and they use them for war and total destruction, which in the end don't the dragons become extinct? And so does the full/pure blooded Targaryen family line once Jon Snow (half-blooded Targaryen) kills Daenerys?

Omg that's literally heartbreaking

Aegon deserved it. He really acted like he and Aemond were still kids. Couldn't read a damn room to save his life. Fucked around and found out. Aemond was done with him.

@@cfinley81 They are still kids. Kids with the world's crappiest mother who makes her every life choice by her nethers. I can't wait to see her eliminated. EVERY death is on her.

@@cfinley81 naah aemond is just a pathetic loser, the dumbest person on this show and a traitor

@@cfinley81 So he deserves painful death for "acting like he was still a kid"? Most empathetic HotD fan be like:

​@@bruhmcmoment196 it's a fictional show. Don't take things so seriously.

Who will be next to ride Vermithor in the books?

​@@saroabd4437Hugh Hammer the blacksmith, he is a dragonseed..

@@darcypenn6702 ohh interesting 😮

@@saroabd4437 I'd rather not post spoilery information here.....Do you have a twitter/email/facebook? i'll answer any questions you have about the show

@@darcypenn6702 stop posting spoiler for fuck sake.

His family has no consideration for him at all, that sucks

She's not wrong.

It’s true he is so neglected both by his father and his mother shows no emotional support ever, i know she loves her kids but she’s still not there for them, only ever has been for Aemond and he’s still a shitbag. (Talking bout the sons and not Heleana cuz i love her and Alicent has actually shown her much support)

em, just sit there and listen? Ask questions? I mean this is war, there is a lot to be learned from the most experienced politicians and strategists in the realm. Instead he just constantly whines that nobody consults him on matters he doesn't know the first thing about, and throws temper tantrums at people who are actually trying to do their job and keep his sorry ass on that throne he has no right for.

The most constructive criticism is usually going to seem harsh, especially if true. You can take it as “you’re a useless piece of shit” or your can take it as “you’re young and you have a group of people here to support you who have lots of experience, use it”. Aegon literally sits there playing with a ball and calls his entire council boring. If he cared he’d be more engaged and willing to learn because he is young and has lots to learn.

Aegon proved his point. He's a useless POS.

@@cfinley81 -- LOL

No he was not! He knew Aegon didn't speak valyrian very well so he did that to make Aegon feel inadequate and embarrassed

That stuff was intense

Vhagar was the dragon of the original Rhaenys, Aegon the Conqueror’s sister wife.

@@ManInBlack1988 visenya had vhagar, rhaenys had meraxes

@@davidderidder1610 ohhh ok, i knew it was one of the sister wives.

Yep, they were both ridden by Baelon and his wife Alyssa, very tragic

@@ManInBlack1988 and ? That’s not the question here

Another thing to consider is that if they moved ships ot floew a dragon nearby they could get their movements reported.

The castle holds little strategic value, Rhaenyra even does a double take when they discuss it at the council. She died there simply because the story is written that way (you could argue that she thought she was done for or that she thought she could take out Vheagar)

Another thing: Rhaenyra sending a dragon was necessary. Assuming Aemond was not there, a dragon from the Black's could have secured the castle almost effortlessly. Not only that, but this was a pivotal moment to show the rest of Rhaenyra's supporters, declared or indecisive, that she will back them up. If the support was not there, neither would morale, and that would make the rest of the realm bend the knee to the Greens so much more easily. Rhaenys knew she had to fully commit to this effort. The moment she saw Sunfire, she knew she had to end its rider and destroy as much as Cole's forces as possible before leaving. Then, seeing Aemond and Vhagar, she realized that there was no leaving this fight. This was her final stand.

@@cos0 Assuming Aemond is not there is really stupid, I know the show pays it no mind, but you should assume or atleast plan for that

@MrBuzzcake I don't think it's stupid. Rook's castle (or whatever it's called) is small and easily vulnerable to seige by Cole's army alone. I don't think it's wise to send one of Green's dragons when the army can win already. Not to mention, specifically, Vhagar being there would be so out of question to the Black's. Vhagar out of King's Landing would leave Aegon vulnerable as well as the rest of the Royal family, the council, and many lords who support and aid the war effort in King Aegon's name. Not to mention, it's the capital of the realm. Conquering King's Landing, the Green's home base, is essentially winning the war for the Black's. You'd have control of their smith's, trade routes, laborers, and you'd have many lords at your mercy. It is not stupid to assume Vhagar should not be with Cole's army, considering all they could lose. It just so happened that Aemond considered that risk trade off and still went with it. This was to mitigate army losses. Baiting one of Black's dragons is just a possibility after that. One, heavily in the Green's favor, but if Vhagar had come out mortally wounded, then war over. Aemond and Cole banked off the probabilities. They happened to win. Though we do not know the extent to which Vhagar is hurt because of this fight. One final thought. If you're going to go about this war, you'd have to assume around every corner and every moment that you wish to go about, Vhagar will be there to combat you. We agree on that. But just because there is always the possibility of Vhagar being there, that doesn't mean you allow her and her rider to paralyze you from participating in this war effort.

More like the queen who should be!

You forgot about Helena's dragon, Dreamfyre, probably the fourth biggest dragon

@@VladVlad-kq6kw Ahhh you're right. So many dragons haha

Yeah, that was horrible 💔

@@leonardohenrique5172Like i dont like Aegon but I felt bad for him like the real betrayal from Aemond. He could be the bigger person but he always treats people who hurt him 1000x worse, seen with luce and now aegon

Nah, f* Aegon he doesn't have a single redeeming quality. He f*ed around and found out.

There were questions in the book too…

Him and Aemond planned the attack together iirc

He definitely was meant to be there as not only Aegon and Cole are very close in the books, Aegon also has a good relationship with Aemond, they planned it together, the credit for crippling Aegon and Sunfyre goes entirely to Rhaenys and Meleys, the only reason why they even survive is because Aemond and Vhagar were there

​@@VictoriaTraduccionesU mean Coke has a good relationship with Aemond not Aegon.

@@schemeteam2954 no, I meant exactly what I said, Cole and Aegon are close, and Aegon had a good relationship with Aemond

@@VictoriaTraducciones That's a great point, though the book is supposedly entirely made up of the accounts of other people, so it may steer from the truth (and I think the show is trying to show us the truth, given that GRRM is involved as a writer). In the books all three dragons fall at the same time, it's a double attack on Rhaenys and Meleys from Aemond/Vhagar and Aegon/Sunfyre, from which Sunfyre and Aegon are badly injured, Vhagar and Aemond are pretty much unscathed, and Rhaenys and Meleys perish.

Exactly 👌

Agreed.

@@user-np4gr2je2q If Daemon had had Aegon as a brother, he would have killed him from the beginning.

@@agustinmamani5072 No he wouldn't because he's loyal Aegon literally only made fun of Aemond like all brothers do to their little brother Daemon was literally cast aside by viserys dishinherited and banished yet he never went against his brother his loyalty speaks volumes even when he was banished and Corlys was talking shit about Viserys he was like only i can talk shit about my brother u can't there was clearly respect there even though he tought his brother was weak.

Yeah, just his wife lmao. TB delusion is so real man.

It won't be just that. GOTs was always at its best when they had quiter character building moments that led to the action (which is what was missing from the last 4 seasons). HOTD will have lots of those moments still

@@ben1ben2ben1 Tbh I'm the opposite with this show. The dragon stuff is way more fulfilling to watch than the "quiet character-building" moments, because I don't feel these characters actually have that much going on, unlike with GoT. While I didn't care for the dragons in GoT, unlike here... they have so much more personality. They should go full Birdman and just give us straight-forward action, if the budget can take it

It was so heartwarming the way Sunfyre bopped Aegon with forehead and seemed to smile.

hes a rapist...