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Rachel Zegler who played lucy gray mentioned on social media that Lucy gray’s character is a performer forced to fight while katniss is a fighter forced to perform

I know some people thought Snow's transition from "good" to evil was too quick, but as someone who has read the book, he was always a narcissist, he always thought of himself as "Panem's finest" while he saw everyone else as inferior. The nice guy was always just a facade. Him snapping towards the end was just his true self being revealed rather than created. The fact that people fell for the Mr Nice Guy act really just proves two things, 1 being that narcissists tend to have a charming exterior masking their true selves, and 2 that Tom Blyth bodied that role.

Snow's story started with a girl from District 12 and it ended with a girl from District 12

When you put into a perspective that Mags the old lady in Catching Fire won the 11th Hunger games you can imagine how old Lucy would have been..

I love how we never know what happened to Lucy gray. Snow is forever haunted by the thought that she will come back and take him down! This is and catching fire and my favorites of the whole series

“i can’t have killed them all for nothing” that was honestly so sad for me bc you can tell that she’s not a bad person but she leaned into the “evil” in order to survive. her coming to the realization that all the killing, all the innocent lives she took were basically for nothing cause she didn’t survive in the end

Viola Davis absolutely ate the scenery in every single frame of film she appears in and I was living for it

I can see why Snow feared and admired Katniss so much in the original trilogy. Seeing a young Snow fall in love with a tribute from District 12 paints a whole new light to the character. What I love most about the character is you're not supposed to feel 100% sympathy for him, there's a darkness to him that fully isn't let out until by the end of the film. Seeing his downfall was tragic and chilling to see and adds so much more new layers to an already great villain. "It's the things we love most that destroy us."

In the book, it was the little girl wovey from district 8 that drank the poisoned water instead of the girl from 11 with tuberculosis. It was much sadder because wovey reminded Lucy gray of her little cousin Maude ivory whom is rumored to be katniss’s grandmother

In the books Snow cried after Sejanus's death not because he mourned him or was sorry, he simply thought he's going to be next 😭 Books have so much more intel and context why is Corio is the way he is bc it's from his pov and he's a complete narciss and an asshole to everyone in his head lmao

Lucy performed the Hanging tree ONCE in public and it was banned by the head peacekeeper immediately afterwards. Luckily Maude Ivory (the one that sings first at the reaping) can memorize a song after one listening. The lake is also a covey secret. For Katniss's father to know them both implies he's very close to the covey. A theory is that Maude Ivory is Katniss's paternal grandmother. In the book you know Snows inner thoughts. Much earlier in the movie you see how paranoid and possessive he is (he thinks Lucy is"his"). He also makes every decision based on self preservation. Snow honestly believes that he would get in trouble just for knowing Sejanus, just like Lil got in trouble at the hanging tree for being associated with Arlo. Another self preservation moment.

I wish we could have seen more of Tigris. It’s so sad how much she looked out for him only for him to do what he did to her. It’s what we love the most that destroys us.

"He looks nice with short hair" I see you ... 😂😂😂

the book was written from snow's perspective and you can really see how he slowly descends into full on paranoia. they made lucy gray way too suspicious in the end of this movie but in the book she's really not suspicious at all (atleast i thought so) but snow's previous experiences and his hunger for power and status i would say slowly ruined his mental health more and more and he kinda just lost it for no reason. he's a narcissist so that definitely didn't help his thoughts. it's also possible that snow was hallucinating after the snake bite. lucy gray hopefully ended up getting away somewhere and lived till she got old. the reason the hanging tree song was passed on could be because of lucy gray's younger cousin, maude ivory. there's a theory that maude ivory could've been katniss everdeen's grandmother and i really hope that's true lol. im sorry about the rant im just very passionate about this series and i loved your reaction as always !!! thank you for what you guys do and im glad you enjoyed the movie ! :)

"Rise Lord Snow". That was hilarious 😂

Coral uses a trident bc she's from district 4, just like Finnick (that was also his weapon).

I need a haymitch spinoff of his quarter quell, they doubled the amount of tributes so it was 48 instead of 24. Theres a chapter in catching fire where katniss watches his game so I think there enough to work off of there to make a film from

tigris said all she saw in coriolanus’ father’s eyes was hate, and at the end she says you look just like your father coriolanus. i read the book and i think this was a good adaptation. tom blyth is great and he’ll definitely be in more roles. he took over tiktok lol. it’s so amazing how now we have much more material to add. like when the rebels are singing the the hanging tree in mockingjay part 1, snow says “impossible.” that always didn’t make sense to me. but reading the book ugh! so much more layers. also rachel! she sang live every take! she was great. i really hope they do more movies with young snow.

Small info on Snow recording Sejanus: in the book it's explained that Coriolanus thought that Sejanus would be bought out by his father like he usually was (with the stunt in the arena) or that the recording might never get heard. It's only when the commander tells them that Sejanus is gonna get executed that he knew he was wrong and caused his friends death. Edit: he does feel guilty about it, the whole execution haunts him - but he reasons with himself that Sejanus was reckless, impulsive and too good-natured to survive.

"People used to call rabies hydrophobia because it appears to cause a fear of water." That's why he sent the drone with water

So as Lucy Gray says for herself, Suzanne Collins (Author of the series) She only writes when she has something to say. This is why this prequel works so well, it is written for a purpose, it wasn't just created for money or cause the fans asked for it but because just like when she wrote the original series, it was because she had a message. It is also so interesting to see how much the games with Snow's influence, he did not create the games, but he made them what we saw in the future. With the escorts, the prizes for victors, the tours, and mentorship. Also, how beautiful is it that one of the last things Lucy Gray says to Snow is "I'm going to dig up some Katniss" and in the books it's even better because she says "I think I'll dig up some Katniss since we got the fire going."

rewatching & hearing corals line “I can’t have killed them all for nothing” really hits home because she didn’t want to kill anyone she was just forced to & to do all that only to not win is really tragic

“It’s the things we love most, that destroy us” They took that iconic line from Mockingjay Part 1 and expanded it here. That's the message of both the book and movie and here's why: It can be interpreted LITERALLY by the most obvious example being his “love” for Lucy Gray Baird. We know as an audience member for the book/movie that his “love” for her really wasn’t ever that real, since he was only doing it for selfish gain, but to him it was real. It was his very first love and we can all relate to just how cringy our first love experiences always are, so Lucy Gray “betraying” him in the end was the final nail in the coffin that “destroyed” him, and made him lose what little humanity he had left in him at that point, and immediately solidified his dark worldview. Along with all the other nails that were already established earlier in the story too. Then, later on in the timeline, it makes total sense as to why he chooses to brainwash Peeta and send him back to District 13 with the rebels so he could kill Katniss Everdeen. He could’ve very easily just attached a bomb and a camera on his body and then once Snow sees that he’s back in D13 and he can see Katniss from the camera, then he could’ve just detonated the bomb and killed both of them immediately but he didn’t. Why? Because he wanted Katniss to feel exactly what he felt when Lucy Gray “betrayed” him in the woods and tried to kill him. From that experience alone, Snow lost all trust for human beings after that, and that last sliver of hope he had of maybe being able to trust Lucy Gray or anybody from the districts one day was destroyed by her trying to kill him. So Snow wanted her to go through, and feel the same thing he did and have her lose trust with Peeta and the whole rebellion, and have her turn against them and to also feel just as betrayed by the “person they both loved most”, like Snow did with Lucy Gray. However, that phrase can also be interpreted METAPHORICALLY in much more subtler ways too like for example his LOVE for power is what destroyed him. The movie posters for each character also really drives home this idea too by using the phrase, “Hunger for power” for Snow’s poster to which I believe the words “hunger” and “love” can both be used interchangeably in my opinion. Snow’s LOVE for power is what ultimately destroys him too in the end when we see him take his first life when he kills that District 8 tribute in the arena. His love for power is what drove him to make that instinctive fateful decision to take Bobbin’s life. Obviously nobody else made that decision but him. He did it because he wanted to have the higher power and to be on top of that situation. Hence, the phrase Snow lands on top, so his love for power is what drove him to kill that boy. He even says to Tigris in the movie that it felt powerful. It was also clear to us that he really liked that feeling of killing that boy because it felt powerful even though he never outright admitted it to her. It was subtle enough that it can be interpreted that way. Hence, his love for power grew even more and it ultimately destroyed him in the end, since as we saw later on, his love for that power is what also drove him to take Mayfair’s life, which was much easier for him, and then betraying Sejanus when he learned he was uncontrollable, becoming a rebel, and endangering his own life by involvement. He did all of that so he can guarantee that he’ll still have a future where he can obtain the ultimate power position of becoming president of Panem one day and literally have ALL the power in the world like he always loved and wanted to have. That intense love for power destroyed him as it ultimately made him not only lose all of his humanity, but also turned him into a tyrannical leader who condones mass genocide to maintain that power over Panem. Another example of that phrase that can be interpreted metaphorically is his love for control and order. Obviously I won’t mention his assignments he had with Dr. Gaul in the book talking about the three C’s and how he’d love to have control since that’s self explanatory, but before the games began, we saw him do all sorts of things to cheat his way into making sure Lucy Gray would win so he can control the outcome and obtain that Plinth Prize. Obviously that can be interpreted as him just having feelings for her and wanting her to survive, but we all know that he only really wanted her to survive so he can also win that Plinth Prize too and then go to university and maintain his social and financial status with his classmates, so when it wasn’t going his way, and it was becoming more likely he wasn’t going to win that prize at all and be able to pay off all his expenses, hence him losing control, then this is when his love for control took over inside him and drove him to manipulate the outcome and guarantee that he’ll win that prize by cheating his way to victory, and he got what he wanted but at what cost? Cheating to get it when he can’t get it honorably? Giving Lucy Gray extra food so she could outlive her competitors by controlling who would win? Throwing in the handkerchief into the tank of snakes so that they wouldn’t kill Lucy Gray and once again control who would win the games? Giving Lucy Gray rat poison so she can use it to kill the others and once again control who wins the games? Then later on using poison to kill all his adversaries to maintain that control which he learned from doing it in the arena years prior, and did it "successfully", so that he can maintain control of the outcome? Using poison in general to kill anyone who poses the smallest threat to him due to his love for power and control and wanting to maintain it? Killing innocent people in general just so he can maintain control over the whole country? Not caring when people start calling him a tyrant, iron fisted and cruel just to ensure survival for survival’s sake and thinking humanity should thank him? Betraying Sejanus when he couldn’t maintain control over his friend's safety anymore? Then killing him in cold blood to maintain control over his own life? Choosing the Capitol lifestyle over living in the woods or in the districts forever with the “love of his life” because he views the Capitol as being a more controlled civilization than the chaotic forest life? Betraying Lucy Gray and trying to kill her by tying up all loose ends that would lead to him being involved with those crimes in District 12 just so he can maintain control over his own destiny? Choosing to hunt down Lucy Gray when he could no longer control her after she used a snake to bite him and try to kill him? Controlling Sejanus to his advantage by actually allowing him to become friends with him when he learned that he made sure he graduated from the Academy which sparked a lot of hope inside of him when he realizes he can still climb to power after all and maintain control over his life? When just moments before he was contemplating suicide because he literally just lost all control for his own life and destiny? So what would’ve happened if Sejanus didn’t save him? And what happens when the thing you love most is taken away from you? You end up committing suicide? Possibly. We saw that with Snow when he was thinking about killing himself when one of the things he loved most was just taken away from him. That thing being control. He lost complete control over his life and destiny and genuinely felt that there was no hope he could regain that control again one day. Hence why he was pondering suicide right before Sejanus came in and saved the day. Hence, it is the things we love most, that destroy us. Literally. All of these are the examples and the final nails in the coffin both literally and metaphorically speaking that destroyed Coriolanus Snow by the end of the story and turned him into the monster we know from the original trilogy, because of his love for Lucy Gray, power, and control. Since it is in fact the things we love most that destroy us.

Partly the reason why Snow is “so likeable” in the movie is because we don’t hear his inner monologue! Book Snow is evil and extremely narcissistic from day dot. He’s just awful and it didn’t translate on the screen as well as it could have. With that said, we get to see his charming side like everyone else through the movie without knowing just how bad he is. Edit typo

I love that this links Tigris and Snow, as it adds another dimension to the story - loving cousins who turn into enemies (at least enough for Tigris, the "tiger lady" in Mockingjay 2, to smile a little when Katniss tells her she plans to kill Snow). For added context, Mags won the next Hunger Games (11th) and became the first victor to do a Victory Tour, get the prize money and move into Victors' Village. Before her, I believe the Victors would all just be returned to their District as though it never happened, but the Victory Tour and such became a way to keep The Capitol audience engaged. .. I also think it's interesting how many parallels there are with what's going on in the world today - do thousands of civilians deserve to be killed in retaliation for a horrific attack that didn't kill anywhere near as many people? Whilst the lives are equal and none deserved to die, the reaction has not been equal, with one side starving civilians of food, power, medical care, etc., like The Capitol does to the Districts. It's strange to see people support Katniss' mission, then support the opposite in real life. The Hunger Games are not just stories; they reflect so much in the real world.

*When Snow talks to Lucy about the song she was singing about a girl she was named after. He says "What happened to her? The footprints?" She says "Maybe she flew away. It's a mystery."*

45:49 Snow was hoping Sejanus would be taken home and his father would pay them off

“Who will watch if there is no victor?” That’s the line that encapsulates all of the Hunger Games following the 10th games. During the first 10 games, the gamemakers didn’t care or not if there was a victor or not in the games so long as they got their show. The games were far shorter and typically ranged anywhere between a few minutes to a few days because of the extremely volatile nature of it. Tributes often died before entering the arena due to starvation, dehydration, illness, or exhaustion. Then came Snow as a head game maker and he made ALL changes he could to somewhat “accommodate” the tributes. The following year after Mags won the 11th edition of the games, Victors Village and Victor Tours were implemented to “award” the victor for their victory. Betting systems were put in place, tribute headquarters was established to cater to the tributes in the weeks leading up to the game, and no matter what, ALL tributes were spoiled with luxuries while training not only to motivate them to participate in the games, but to also deter any potential for rebellion. During the 74th Hunger Games, Thresh was noted as being a favorite because of his physical strength. Mind you, he only started feeling strong and healthy because he was eating so much in the Capitol compared to home. Snow made it a rule that no matter what, each game WILL have its victor. That’s why when Katniss and Peeta threatened to commit suicide, Snow put a stop to it and was forced to declare them both as winners. He couldn’t let his game end without a victor that he could use as a puppet to undermine rebellion.

I love that the final quote from future Snow can be two fold. “The things we love most” destroying us could be describing Lucy. His feelings for her (whatever they might’ve been) making him lose focus off of what was his ultimate goal. And, what he perceived to be her trying to kill him at the end. If it wasn’t love, it was the closest he ever got to it. In the book, he made a conscious decision afterward to never again feel that way for another person. He wanted nothing and no one to hinder him. Essentially, he decided to retire his heart for good. But also, at the end of the day, what Snow loved more than anything was power. Status. Rising to the top. And that love of all things Capitol destroyed who he could’ve been as a person and turned him into someone truly evil.

I think the worst parts for me are Reaper, ironically the only one who didn’t kill anyone, gathering all the tributes in a makeshift graveyard and his calm acceptance of his death, and little Wovey asking “Is it over?” Justice for Sejanus!

We need 2 more stories . Mags for the 11th hunger games, and Haymith for the 2nd quarter quell. Plus we need to see Snow rise to full power from hos University years

After the book, now i know for sure that when Snow saw Coin died he was thinking "Snow lands on top"

Snow also creates the idea of the Victor's villiage and he also came up with the idea of giving the Victor's money.

Snow’s true love was power. That’s what destroyed him.

The host of this games is Ceaser's dad (some think grandfather but for the years mentioned in the books, father makes more sense, and he intentionally mentions he has a kid here)

Tom Blyth did amazing in the movie as did Viola Davis! Such fantastic performances 👏🏽 👏🏽

The book has Snow's inner dialogue and it is seriously messed up from chapter 1. they really downplayed how intense, mean and manipulative he truly is. The distain he has for everyone, even his own family, is quite impressive.

Lucy Gray is why Snow is obssessed with Katniss. She rteminds me of her so much.

The dark side is strong in this one . Wasn't the singing fantastic in this movie btw so good

one thing youve got to remember is that the snows are extremely poor right now but snow is doing his best to hide it and to survive under the law. He is at a point where he would do anything to survive, thats y he sent the recording of Sejanus, Sejanus was not exactly his friend i presume, he only tolerates him (i mean thats wat he said in d beginning). d commander told them anyone even associated with rebels or will be killed. he was scared for his life because ppl knew him as Sejanus's friend and sejanus kept associating himself with rebels ...snow knew that if anything happens he could be killed for being a friend with rebels while sejanus's father would easily buy his way out for his son.

I loved seeing Snows origin story, I hope we get more. Also, please can we have more Viola Davis playing villians, she was so powerful on screen, amazing performance.

It's funny how they hear Snow's classmates being classist and hate on them, but hear Snow being the same and even contributing to the games continuing but just say he's super likeable. Like, I get the sympathy for him wanting to win the prize for his family economic situation, and hating on people like Arachne more, but if you hate on someone everytime you hear the classmates say a classist comment then I would expect you to do the same with him as they all have that mindset for the same reason, but when he does they pass through it and then just say he's super likeable.

The author, Susan Collins, studied philosophers, Hobbes, Kant, Locke, and others referring to human nature and the relationship with evil and dominance, as a basis for this. Summarized by Amanda the Jedi - Interesting and relevant.

I was so glad that Wovey went quickly. She was so innocent.

If Snow would've died in the arena, maybe it would've saved alot of trouble later on for everyone.

Rachel Zegler, what a powerhouse. "The Old Therebefore" scene has been stuck in my mind for months!

Another REALLY IMPORTANT part that was left out of this film was Snow’s hatred for Mockingjays. A Jabberjay and Mockingbird mated together to create the Mockingjay and snow thought of them as ABOMINATIONS. He hated them with a passion and even tried to convince the “peacekeepers” to kill all of the Mockingjays in District 12. Then decades later, Katniss became the Mockingjay and a symbol of the rebellion. I think you can guess how Snow felt then.

So many people can’t tell the difference between love and infatuation. Especially when you’re a teenager & it’s a new experience. Add trauma bonding to it and you’ll get a very confusing experience. I think Snow wanted (to possess) her but it wasn’t love; he doesn’t know how to love. He was too busy trying to obtain everything he wanted at once. She def would’ve suffered had they stuck together….

I think many viewers forget that Snow is following his assignment. His connection to Lucy is secondary to that. He already learned through glint to meet Lucy at the train station & unwittingly getting thrown in the zoo, that breaking the rules can pay off.

Its a nice touch how even though Lucy dissappeared, and they pretty much nixed most records of the 10th games, "Hanging tree", The defiant curtsy, the mockingjay, etc. All followed its way to modern district 12, and by extension Katniss, most likely through folklore. The only thing I wished they did was hold the reveal of "Hanging tree" until AFTER Lucy finds out Snow killed 3 people. It would have made it much more ominent.

the song hanging tree i believe references the hanging at the tree, wen snow arrived they "hung a man saying he murdered three people", "he called for his lover to flee"-while they were hanging him, "if we met at midnight in the hanging tree" snow and lucy planned to meet at midnight in d tree when they wanted to run away from 12 after sejanus's death. the cool thing is lUCY sang this sing only to Snow, so apart from SNOW and the mockingjay no one lese knows d song. so maybe lucy died and maude ivory her cousin in d book we were told that she never forgets a tune/note so maybe she picked d song from d birdsand taught other coveys over time or lucy herself taught her if she wasnt dead. and the lake house was d house Katniss's father takes them to, Katniss grew up visiting there a lot with her dad. even after his death she went to the lake house a lot of times even with Gale, it was her and her fathers special place, held special memory for her. so there is a theory that Katniss's dad was a covey and a descendant from Lucy gray, maybe or maude ivory's. i wonder though if the current condition of district 12 (by hunger games and catching fire) was a reflection of snows hatred for that district cause of 12.

There's fascination in Snows eyes as he looks at Lucy Gray, he's entranced by her, he's captivated by her.......but there's hunger in his eyes as well. It's like she's a rare bird that he's found, that he wants to catch and keep in a cage, made all the more fascinating by how much she'll fight because that makes her a better prize and a sweeter victory when he catches her, either shooting her down or calming her with soothing words. Even in the book he reflected that he preferred her being in the cage in the capitol where they put the victors - because then he knew where she was and who she was with. She's "his girl" you see - his victor and now his lover....it's not so much that he's incapable of love....it's that he's very controlling and possessive over those he loves.....

Imagine how much Snow shit himself in his final years: -Katniss, an underdog district 12 female victor -The Hanging Tree song, sung by Lucy Gray taunting him, now sung by Katniss and District 5 dam workers blowing it up -the mockingjays, symbol of Snow’s deceit and how Lucy Gray deceived him in return -even the name Katniss, literally made up by Lucy Gray

A lot of the names used were taken from Shakespeare plays 😊😊

The thing I love about this movie is that the game ends so early and the rest is snow's backstory bc that is what it is about

You missed Lucy Gray's bow at the reaping. Rachel Zegler is a big fan of THG and ad libbed the bow to presage Katniss' bow to the judges in the first movie.

Did you notice that snow’s sister is the one that housed Catnis and them when they were making their way to the Capital in the last Hunger Game’s movie…She just tatted up now to look like a tiger.

I read somewhere that they believe the snake that bit him in the end is actually poisonous, but not deadly. That's why in the original Hunger Games Snow is sick, has sores in his mouth and coughs up blood sometimes, he fights the illness his whole life. Anyway, the story and the universe is written so well, I applaud the writer for having such imagination to create all this, connect all the dots, have things in set for future books and movies. I salute you.

I loved snow's "transformation"! We can see both sides of him at the beginning (super cruel but caring of his loved ones) but in the end his selfishness, hunger for power and overall negative view on the world lead him to become who he ends up as... He liked Lucy when she was dependent on him, the moment she could start making her own choices, we can see they don't align with his... And the fact he sees her running as a betrayal and tries to kill her, instead of her being scared of him, says it all...

The fact that so many were praying on this movie’s downfall and saying it was going to be crap. So satisfying to see all of them eating their words 😂

Mags wins the next hunger games, the 11th. Snow becomes responsible for the games becoming much harder, which makes her win even more impressive to me.

Coral the final girl before Lucy was from district 4. So like Finnick she would have handled a trident all her life. D4 was always one of the better district in the winning pool after 1 and 2. And she was very "lucky" this year that the tributes from 1 and 2 died during the explosion before the games. Mags (the old woman from cathing fire) won next year games

It has three prongs. It is by definition, indeed, a trident.

Yes ! I couldn't wait to see your reaction ! I loved this film when it was released in theaters (having devoured the book when it first came out and adored the character of Lucy Gray since) and I think it's the best of the Hunger Games movies ! The snakes scene is amazing !

francis lawrence directed catching fire, mockingjay films and songbirds & snakes. so, definitely some consistency w/the films, which i like.

5:59 - What people don’t realize about this scene, that they also don’t touch on in the film is this- Lucy’s name wasn’t on that slip of paper, that girl had her father say “Lucy” regardless of the name.

on a real note your reactions to the original series is one of my comfort playlists. As someone who read the books & watched the series in my early teens, the blind reacts are everything

The Snow you see in the movie is his public persona, you never hear his internal thoughts which often directly contradict how he behaves. He's very much keeping up appearances and manipulatives situations to his advantage if possible. He is outwardly charming but has a lot of contempt for most people, and is confident about his own superiority. I'd highly recommend the audiobooks for the original trilogy with Tatiana Maslany narrating, especially if you want more in this universe. The movies are good adaptations, but they leave stuff out, and they are very quick reads. The prequel read by Santino Fortuna is also good, but it drives me crazy that he doesn't sing any of the songs, especially when he sings so well.

The girl on top of the pillars really put up a good fight huh

Btw Tigris(snow's cousin) was in Mockingjay part 2 ( the lady hides Katniss at the basement after finnick died) .

I want a Haymitch prequel so bad!! He won the 50th games where there were 48 tributes (2 girls and 2 boys from each district) instead of 24.

my theory is that Lucy Grey left before snow could get her and that snake that bit him made him hallucinate seeing her and shooting her!!!

I literally screamed when I saw this reaction was posted! The Hunger Games is one of my all time favorite series! Your reactions to the original series are some of my favorite videos of yours so I was so excited to see you guys were reacting to the prequel as well! Yay!

There's a rumour that Suzanne Collins is writing a sequel to this Snow's story. I'm hoping it's true

38:10 I just realized this is the part of the hanging tree song where she says “Are you, are you comin' to the tree Where I told you to run, so we'd both be free?” 😮

He was never trying to stop the games. He just wanted Lucy Grey to win. He had no moral objections againt the games.

16:32 So the book is written entirely from his perspective, and because of that we see pretty quickly that his mindset was already pretty similar to Gaul’s. She just helped push him farther along, but she didn’t have to change very much.

13:23 he actually improvised the grabbing and that’s her real reaction!

OMG I WAS GENUINELY WAITING FOR YOU GUYS SPECIFICALLY TO POST THIS 😭😭 I LOVE THIS THANK U

Small detail, Gaul is seen feeding water creatures in her lab towards the end, the next years game takes place I believe outside the capital and had a water theme, Mags the old lady from the second hunger games movie wins and coming from a water district she has a little bit of an edge. Interesting to see them foreshadowing water creatures for next years games. I can’t help but wonder who Professor Gaul lost during the war that made her go so hard against children. She relished the games as a form of torture against her “enemies” she must have lost someone she loved very much.!

I think they should make a movie/book about the first Quarter Quell where the people in each district voted for who would be selected as the tributes. The second one had double the number of tributes and that’s the one Haymitch won but there’s already a KZfaq movie made of it. Seeing that Snow is the reason that the games have expanded so much from what they originally were it would be interesting to see that evolution and possibly around the time he ascends to the presidency

SAME man- I need another one because Snow is a PHENOMENAL character. I need more of his down fall and I’m lowkey rooting for a villain this movie somehow 😆 the actor KILLED it. Snow uses poison often (aka we know this per the original hunger games) Snow lands on Top 👌🏼he was hallucinating after the bite. Which made him think she wanted him dead. After seeing all the references we can now only assume what he thought when he heard Katniss from 12 singing the hanging tree- him using peeta…. Just AMAZING. I need a second movie with this actor playing Snow

The fashion in this movie is impeccable, specially Dr. Gaul, Coriolanus and Tigris.

in Europe Cornelius is a normal name (a bit old-fashioned) derived from Latin, there was a pope and many Roman politicians and military men in the Roman empire had such a name, there was even an entire family of Cornelius. So President Snow's name Coriolanus is heavily inspired by the name Cornelius

The soundtrack for this movie includes expanded versions of all of Lucy Gray's songs, which, together with Olivia Rodrigo's "Can't Catch Me Now", add so much additional context to Lucy's character. Snow is very narcissistic, and since the movie follows his perspective, when his attention shifts away from the songs, so does the audience's. In the hospital, while everyone else is enraptured by Lucy's song, he's just looking around to see how they're reacting and how he can use it. If the movie is Snow's story, then the soundtrack is undoubtedly Lucy's response.

What this movie did incredibly well is that it showed why Snow is the way he is without making us feel too sad for him in the process. And the thing I found most impressive was Tom Blyth keeping the same mannerisms and cadences of Donald Sutherland's President Snow

If you ever have the opportunity to read the books I highly recommend them! Especially Ballad of songbirds and snakes if you are interested in Snows character and those character conflicts we see a bit of in this film. I think you get an entirely new perspective of Snow by reading the book.

Did you notice that this was the ORIGIN of the hanging tree song? It's the exact story of the first guy that they hung after Snow came there. Lucy gray mustve written it herself afterwards

I think Snow had feeling for Lucy but I’m not sure I believe it was a deep love. She started to doubt him when he allowed his “best” friend to be hung. That was when he lied to her about who the 3rd death he was responsible for was. When they were under the tree she asked him if he would go back to the capital and he said yes, it’s where I belong at least it’s civilized there. He gave her many opportunities to doubt him and I think that she realized that he lied to her and turned his friend in when they were leaving together.

i dont know if you noticed some names....Arachne crane the girl who died, and Seneca crane the game maker in movie 1, hilariaus heavensbee, one of coryo's classmate and the name of their hall, and Plutarch heavensbee the game maker in catching fire and mockingjay, tigris now and then surgically modified, then lucy grays hanging tree song.

Tom Blyth did such an amazing job👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

"He looks niiiiice with short hair." Translation: "Snow lookin too fine right now he could get it just sayin" 🥴🤣🤷🏼‍♀💜

The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes exceeds the very little expectations I had for this movie! The story line was so well done. It was so neat seeing the different time setting for this movie, and seeing it from the Capitol's perspective. I have seen this movie 3 times already, and every time I have watched it, I notice some small details that I missed the last time I watched it. Francis Lawrence's attention to tiny details is a reason why I love this movie so much. The acting in this movie was spectacular! While I originally hated the decision to cast Tom Blyth as Snow (Because I personally wanted Adam Driver), he knocked it out of the park! He did such a good job at portraying so many different emotions in multiple scenes. Rachel Zegler did a great job as Lucy Gray Baird. Some of her facial expressions managed to make you tear up, and she had a lovely singing voice as well. Viola Davis arguably gave the best performance however. She was very cartoony, but very serious at the same time. Was not expecting a whole lot from her, but she stole the show IMO. Peter Dinklage is not getting enough credit for his performance IMO. His character had so many layers, and Peter did a great job at portraying all of them in multiple scenes. While there were not a whole lot of action scenes, the film's screenplay and acting was so good, that the movie did not need very many of them. I loved the film's tone so much as well! I do not think there needs to be another movie in the Hunger Games series. The movies have run their course, and they were all good! The only thing I would maybe like to see from this franchise, is a series about the Hunger Games that weren't shown, and see how they started, and how the games got much more complex and innovated as the years went on. It is really the only thing left this series has to offer IMO. Overall, The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes is a hauntingly great movie, that features stellar acting, and some great small details! Out of 4 stars I would give it... 4 out of 4 stars

If you liked this version, I highly recommend reading the Songbirds and Snakes book because it is actually so much better. The casting for this movie was great, but the insights that the book provides for Snow's overall state of mind throughout the story is top notch.

I was so excited for this Movie because district 12 was filmed in my hometown "Duisburg" it's in Germany.

Pretty sure Coral's weapon was a trident not a pitchfork because she's from district 4, fishing, like Finnick.

It's much harder to tell in the movie, but due to the internal dialogue in the book it's much easier to tell how Snow thinks and why he does what he does. Throughout most of the early action, the only thing he is thinking about is how he'll appear for the cameras or what the risk is to him. He is also making a note of what tatics in the games work, like making Lucy Grey appeal to people's hearts. The movie makes him seem like a bit of a better person at the start, but the book kinda sets up the descent right off the gate.

I agree with you guys completely! I need more, more and more. I need a movie on each district, the war, more Snow, the fall/survival of district 13…I just want more 😂

Yes. Just get the audiobook and you’ll love it. WAY more details!