Some things to think about that you didn't mention, that can help contextualize this issue. 1) The PDGA and DGPT/DGN are divided internally on this issue, from the board-level, to across the companies at many levels. 2) The PDGA recently renamed the FPO division from Female Professional Open to Woman (or Woman's) Pro Open and started changing a number of the pages on their site to take the focus away from "female" which is now relegated to a biological-based term referring to sex, and "woman/women" as a gender-based term. Their 2024 division list has Woman's Pro Open and Woman's Pro XX+ where XX is the age bracket. Female Jr divisions are also now Girl's divisions. You spent a lot of time in this video showing some of the antics and bad behavior of Nikko but next to nothing from Natalie. If people want to know why she's divisive, it's more than merely being transgender and playing disc golf. People watching this video, who aren't knowledgeable of this issue, would have no idea of some of the craziest things she's said and done since she broke onto public awareness in 2022.

A little disengenuous to go so into Nikko’s specific actions without really talking about the straight bullying Natalie’s been doing not only to him but to many of the FPO players. Many of the comments made since the beginning of this whole thing have been, if you read them objectively and honestly, just bullying.

Nate Ryan is playing in the wrong division.

Thats a man baby, yeah

I support Nikko in this, never thought i would say that

I am now a Fan of Nikko..

The solution starts with refusing to call him her. If men can play in women's sports then why are there women's sports at all?

Why do Trans athletes not compete in MPO? Also, this is not a political issue. It's a science issue. XY chromosomes = bigger bone structure, more muscles, etc.

I used to dislike Nikko, but seeing him stand up for women like this gives me a new respect for him. #protectwomenssports.

What a bias take to overshadow all the awful things Natalie has said and pinpoint everything bad about Nikko. Deceptive. Unsubscribe.

Good on Nikko. Shame on you for calling him a her. Everyone should publicly support women. Shit is ridiculous!

I will never give a dime to the PDGA until they stop this lunacy of letting guys play in WOMANS League’s.

Why not talk about the FPO livestream on instagram last year and their actual thoughts? NR is an absolute CHEATER and why I stopped supporting the PDGA.

I support Niko's stance on the issue.

It's obvious where you stand on this issue from the one sided shade thrown throughout this pathetic attempt to drag someone who doesn't agree with your ideological cult beliefs

I'm glad to see these comments went the total opposite of what (whoever this is) thought they would. 🤣 Nikko has one outburst= end of the world. Man pretends to be woman to play against women= Okey Dokey 👍

Nikko is what disc golf need can’t ever be against his passion and energy keep doing your thing.

Time to buy some sacred discs

These two men need to try to get along or just fist fight old school style

TEAM NIKKO!!! Don’t back down!!

Men are men and women are women, it doesn’t matter how much surgery you have.😊

Just a heads up, the Nautilus is a sick midrange from Neptune discs

I have a gnome and love it for approach forehands when a harp is too fast

Imagine how bad it must be if trying to keep men out of women's sports is a "political battle".

There is no such thing as Trans because nobody transitions from one sex to another..

I see Nate Ryan is tied for 1st at the Beaver State Fling and the DGPT has the comments turned off.. I wonder why?? Maybe because Nate Ryan is playing.. pretty sad stuff.. I can't see why anyone would support them

Not only is Natalie competing unfairly with actual women instead of trying to play in the open division, he has cost the PDGA a ton of money in legal fees. Money that could go toward bettering the sport. It's a purely selfish endeavor and should not be supported, no matter who it's from. As an am player, I know that by competing in tournaments, I'm losing money so open players can have better payouts. I'm fine with that because it grows the sport that I love. Natalie wants his way and is willing to damage the sport to get it.

I could watch Nikko trying to look tough all day. Lol

Letting men play with women absolutely not no more money from me.

anybody with a daughter would understand this is wrong no man should be competing with our daughters

Love Nikko !!!!! And stop calling him a her. This is NOT a political stance, it’s common sense. Please don’t ruin DG.

Nate Ryan has a bigger Adam's apple than Nikko.

I actually follow the FPO and wasn't aware that Ryan is trans.

Nikko is much more invested in the fpo division considering his gf Kat is also outspoken on the matter. But one man is positively affecting the fpo financially helping, and the other man is running from state to state with a box of matches just trying to “burn it all down”. I wish this analysis was a few more minutes in depth, and really focused in on both characters equally.

This sport needs Nikko.

KEEP THE MEN OUT OF THE WOMANS DIVISION. that means you RYAN. play with the guys or don't play at all. CHEAT

Love me or hate me, you watched and that's all you could do

You left out the years nasty Nate played poorly on MPO

Just go to 2:50 secs in. That’s a males forearm and hairy too. I feel for the FPO players… :(

The PDGA is a weak and useless organization, I quit upping my membership because of their terrible leadership.

Love me some crazy ass Nikko!!!

Also this a big w for niko. Good for him

Yo RM!! I love your videos, as well as your fantastic and captivating commentary. I just got five of the R.M. Disc Golf Whale Sacks!! Had to support you my guy! Keep putting out quality content and the community will be a better place!🎉

Does this hurt the frisbee basket?

Nikko has common sense.

Handicap all players could play in unity and where they are short on players in divisions.players could still compete.

What was Natalie record before 2022 ?

"of HIS disc golf career"

Everyone has had their temper tantrums, their "blowout" holes, a terrible shot, double, triple, quad, snowman, bogey whatever. We all get frustrated, but the thing that happened at the European open was inexcusable! Standing up for the PWDGA is something the woman can or could do. There's incidences where girls in U.S. high schools that refuse to play against "born males". I hope they keep that trend through the centuries! God bless... 🙏

Way to go nikko! Gotta love that rude

It takes balls to go against Nikko .

Just a man...him not her. Hope Nikko makes a great comeback!

Good for Nikko speaking up. Count me as a fan

Nikko is 100% right. Big Nate has been stealing women's payouts for long enough.

Also you need to check what you say about Nikko. There are a lot of players that act like that. He isn't special in any way. Anger is hard to deal with.

Good for Nikko. Take a stand against the delusional crap.

Nikko is a POS, from first hand experience, but someone needs to do something about this problem in the FPO division.

How do they cross paths? one is predictably bigoted; another was existing in a similar place and suffered the consequences. Nikko knows this will boost him as 75% of average disc golfers are surprisingly conservative given the sport at hand.

It’s a dude, playing the correct division

stop it with the Nikko hate. dude has issues, but no one else is trying to protect women. where have all the good men gone?

Your bias is showing

How about you give a bigger back story on manly ryan before 2022 how about in 2016 or whenever nikko started his disc golf career what was ryan back that and which division would he be in then

Let’s go Nikko!

can we see nikkos texts before Cat turned 18?

So if Barela transitioned to a woman, it would be ok for him to play in FPO. Come on

I’ve been seeing a lot of negative things in a sport that brings me happiness

Time to give Neptune disc the Bud Light treatment

Nate Ryan could'nt hold Nikko's mini. FACTS. EFF THIS GARBAGE

Karl?

Well we know whose side you’re on now lol

I think they need a match?

Unsubscribe is a beautiful thing.

I am going to go buy one of Nikko's discs now. He gained a new fan.

I like Nikko now. He's cooled out quite a bit. He is nowhere near being considered the least liked disc golf player anymore..

I guess imma be throwing some sacred discs

Wise word choice to call her Ryan and not Natalie.

One thing I'm going to correct you on. Transgender women competing in a female protected division is NOT Political. Not by a mile. It is a biological/livelihood issue. Women have a right to be bitter about an athlete who has a biological advantage over other born women. And to say they do not is honestly ignorant. Skill is another discussion and I can personally say, while I throw farther than most women I play against, I will not always beat them by any stretch. I'm a firm supporter of men/women's right to be transgender and have friends that are as well. But to say they are on even footing with biological females in a competitive field is simply not accurate. I don't have a good answer for what resolution should be done. Transgender divisions would A. result in non-competing as there would likely not be enough to allow the division to happen in the event. B. Segregate them further thus likely creating animosity and disinterest in their competitions (potentially). There is the Mixed Pro Open division when seems to be the consensus but again, they would be at a disadvantage there are well due to hormone therapy. It's a shitty situation all around.

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No discussion about Ryan's threat of burning down Women's FPO DG, and taking money, qualification spots and possible endorsements from the lady's? That hurts women, and isn't that the 'gender' Ryan should want most to honor? A lot of time in this video was spent talking negatively about Nikko, it's apples and oranges. Nikko isn't trying to destroy disc golf. I now have found more respect for Nikko by him supporting women's DG.

Can I play from short tees because I identify with them in competition vs people that have to use long tees? Since when did feeling supercede logic? Sigh

I think Natalie Ryan is secretly Hunter Thomas shaving his beard from Foundation Disc Golf 🤓🤘🏻

100% unsubscribed to the misogynist

I would pay to see them have a boxing match

The disc golf pro tour is not successful, here are a few reasons why: players, sponsored by disc manufacturers, make millions of dollars while tournaments, sponsored by the same manufacturers, pay out peanuts! It MUST be the other way around. Disc golf manufacturers don’t have professional courses that are designed for spectators and professional camera crews. Announcers never (rarely ever) mention the disc thrown or its specific weight. Announcers are not experts in announcing! Players carry too many discs. There must be a limit and discs must be weighed before each tour event. Baskets and tee pads vary from tournament to tournament. There must be a standard basket and tee pad. The adverts under the basket, those MUST PROMPTLY AND PERMANENTLY BE REMOVED!!! FLAGS ON TOP OF EVERY BASKET SHOULD BE MANDATORY! There are no (almost none) major outside sponsors of tournaments. These are some major problems. Before the tour can attract major sponsors (soft drinks, alcohol, automobile, jewelry, etc.) there must be viewership. In order to increase interest in the sport, pay outs must be much higher. Macbeth got 7 “million$”! That’s “70” 100,000$ payouts! That’s “1” player contract!!! Players need to “earn” their money by winning. Then they can eventually be sponsored by clothing, automobile, alcohol, soft drink etc, manufacturers or other outside sponsors. Viewers and fans of disc golf must demand that all these and more steps be taken to push our sport to the level it deserves to be at.

Who thinks he would chop off his junk if he wasn’t competing for money? He can’t win against men so he went the woman’s route

not a her

Ryan took the beautiful growth of the sport from COVID and killed it.

The narrator here is clearly for biological males competing against women in the women's division. This narrator has failed to inform you the actual truth to the Trans situation with the pro tour. One major failure is the fact that 80 % of the women competing in the pro tour signed a petition to turn over the ruling that allowed Ryan to play. We won't even talk about all the support from the males in the pro tour. He then goes on to dog Nikko whom made a complete turn around and is really stepping it up to show support for the biological women protected divlsion. Outside of competing in the wrong division, I hope for the absolute best for Ryan.

Nicco is way better by a long mile. I’m going to buy one of his lavender discs

Anyone answering honestly about the man playing against woman will be banned and called names. Why pass title 9 to then allow this ?

You don't have to take a side to see how biased this video was in it's treatment of the two parties. I guess I didn't realize it was an opinion piece.

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I feel like Niko has a bad reputation...so he's trying to do something good to fix his reputation. Kudos to him.

1:41 one sad sad American there, pray they find god and heal

Nikko needs to focus on himself, dude has no right to judge anyone.

This comment section is sad. Most of you don't care about FPO or disc golf. You just hate trans people

Very one sided and slanted.

Nikko went from foil to hero. Proud of him.

not a women

This man is destroying the woman's tour and needs to be removed from the sport.