⁠@@markarcilla9270 *audacity but I agree young fella. I’m just autistic about spelling.

He usually says KD is the best when healthy.

@@markarcilla9270 opacity noun opac·​i·​ty 1 a: obscurity of sense : unintelligibility b: the quality or state of being mentally obtuse : dullness

His style of play really doesn't require high athleticism. Don't get me wrong, he is strong in the paint and that's why he can push through against other centers in the league. But most of his shot selections, passes, outplays, and etc are all from his IQ and court vision. So I really don't see him dropping off anywhere in the near future.

This is the real discussion to have. I always am amazed people still have the nerve to ask “Is he the best big man passer ever?” The guy is in the discussion for best passer ever, and best offensive engines ever.

@@jerryos356 "He is not the best big man passer ever"- Nick Wright

Bruh. He's shooting 48% from 3PT. The dude is shooting better than Curry

He’s also an elite offensive rebounder and does all the little things too, screening, is great as a roll man and at the pick n pop, can also be the PnR ball handler AS A BIG, no notable offensive weaknesses at all

I mean, according to Lebron fans Jokic has to be the greatest player ever. Hes a better passer than Lebron, hes more efficient scoring, better fg%, 3pt % and ft%, more assists and rebounds. Bc, stats is all that matters

Except it couldn't be farther from the truth. Just proves he didn't watch 2 Nuggets games in the last 3 seasons. Jokić is in great shape, he makes every defender tired and he makes fastbreaks like it's nothing. Watch him play and then tell me if he is slow.

@@zimbabveanski he is really agile and has great footwork. people really think athleticism is only about pace/acceleration and vertical jumping.

@@Mscottscarn that doesn’t make him athletic lol

@@coreyrees840he actually super athletic tho because his coordination is probably number 1 in the league

that's truly where the beauty of his game is: simplicity. Well done simplicity. Fundamentals well executed. The league has been missing a guy like this since Tim Duncan retired. He has all that with one addition: his passing skills

Lebron should have 15 MVPs by that logic

The head to head matchups with Embiid haven't helped.

@@frankjum Jokic arguably producing 44+ points for the Nuggets per game while on Embiid and Giannis case it's only 41 points per game. Assists mattered most that's why Nash and Westbrook won MVP.

that was BEFORE yesterday so how would that be hypocrisy? the things some of you say are just astounding sometimes

@@quagmir3 No he shouldn't.

Exactly.

That was Kendrick Perkins who said that

@@zacgrasl4229 didn’t he say that to Stephen A and it’s not like he refuted Perkins when he was on his show.

Lol 3rd time not getting out the 2nd round was the charm for Stephen A to stop saying that 😂

Or Steph Currey!!!

LOL

There are 2 players that Stephen A Smith will back up and that is Steph Curry and Kevin Durant. The guy praises those 2 players so much even when they're underdogs.

@@russellwestbrookyellingatw9381steph curry is good asf… you could very much argue he is the best player in the world

Nikola Jokić.

Kosovo*

@@BristolBerg is Serbia.

was thinking the same thing🤣🤣🤣

For this year, the thing is, he and other pundits always concede to Giannis or Jokic during the post season. But next year, when KD has a run of 25 points a game performances the media will ask the question. “Is KD the best in the world”.

​​@@johnboy1760 Giannis is not on that level. He can't shoot the ball. Just lost to an 8 seed and got outscored by Middleton. He just long and athletic. In 2021 in the Brooklyn vs Milwakee series luck and injuries were the only reason Giannis won. KD nearly beat him with a bunch of nobodies. Giannis just doesn't have that type of skill. Even a 38 yo Lebron is better on offense. There are many games where it feels like Its 4 v5 on offense for Milwakee cause of Giannises inability to shoot.

​​@@erikpuka2627 I can tell you're a casual. Giannis INJURED HIS BACK AND HAD TO HAVE IT WORKED ON DURING THE 2 GAMES HE PLAYED (HE MISSED 3 OUT OF 5) AND HE STILL AVERAGED 32 18 9 FOR THE TWO GAMES HE PLAYED ON A BAD BACK. YOU'RE A RACIST AND A HATER AND THAT'S OK BUT DON'T YOU DARE ACT LIKE YOU'RE A FAN OF THE GAME THAT SO CALLED 8TH SEED BEAT EVERYONE ELSE IN THE EAST AND IS IN THE FINALS AGAINST YOUR PERSONAL SAVIOR

​@@erikpuka2627 gianis is overrated but he is still top 10

Opinions change

He changes like the wind

Well, he has to say it now, because at this moment, if he denied it, I would look stupid and ignorant, in a little while he will say that he loves Jokić more than his wife 🤣

He didn't watch Jokic before. Tbf, a lot of people didn't really *watch* Jokic play before that 2023 playoff run. Now SAS knows, I suppose

Only the braindead don't recognize his two MVPs. These playoffs; triple-double average is pushing him into another tier.

Luka is miles better

the league won't let you win too many mvps. That's jsut how it is lol lbj got robbed two mvps

its a regular season award

You don't have to, Chuck and Shaq appeared on NBATV after the game.

Cant hit open shots

@@xavierb9061 got a 27-10-14 triple double shooting 66%......

@@---kr3zg heat missed shots..saw 4th quarter...game 2 interesting

@@xavierb9061 yeah that's what they said about the lakers and the suns

@@---kr3zg bam has open shots...found that...open 3s they missed...fixed aaron gordon mismatch from 1st quarter..game 2 interesting

If they see somebody else playing better than Jokic next year at a consistent rate, they may change their opinion.

@@friendswitdadealer they guaranteed will change their opinion if that happens

Depends on if Joker and the Nuggets are looking the same next year. Year-to-year fatigue is a real thing.

@@100percentBroonese Fluka was hot garbage without Brunson.

@@100percentBroonese 32 mean nothing at that usage rate. He's a Brunson merchant sadly

He needs to go also alll of them !!!!!!!

Or don't want some foreign white "Siberian" guy be the best at a predominantly African American game. Let's admit it's largely and xenophobia along with a racial thing for why people hate Jokic and why he didn't get MVP, atleast Embiids black in allot of peoples eyes.

Denver will win 5 championships with Jokic, believe me. Only injuries can stop him and this Denver team, nothing other...

Low key... We might don't even need ring chasers joining us. We need a backup C? We got Kamegate on the back We need a wing defender? We got Braun and Watson It feels like this is the perfect team and we gonna get better because we are still very young.

@@hristijandimitrovski8664 Not sure about 5, but we can definitely win at least 2. Perhaps even back to back 👀

Jimmy was a no show in game 1

No

Giannis can't pass like Jokic.

this robbery narrative is silly and ppl care wayyyyyyy too much about this mvp

ever seen? you must be 21

Never happen. That dude would try and talk himself out of the corner he put himself in. He is a phony pundit that thrives on controversy because he has nothing else to offer.

He wont jeff he is to busy kissing lebrons ring all the time

Jokic doesn't even care lol

by simply pointing to steph giannis kevin durant joel embiid luka doncic ... easy

The most versatile offensive player without any doubt

Best offensive player is 100% a cold hard fact, not even in the realm of opinion Best passer ever - debatable, but his name has to be in the convo. Magic, Bird & Nash come to mind too. For me it's Bird or Jokic, but Jokic makes more decisions, so I give him the edge, but I can see an argument for Magic too. Highest BB IQ ever - Him, Magic or Bird. LBJ, Rondo, Kidd, Draymond Green, all up there too. It was noteworthy how far behind LBJ seemed defensively vs Jokic though, reading the play only too late. Best touch ever - I buy that. Best player ever - I want to buy this. But does the offensive goatness outweigh the defensive shortcomings enough? I think he's definitely a top 5 all time player, with an outside GOAT case, but I personally want to see him play better defense before I am ready to call him the best ever. Maybe the best ever. Potential goat. Solidify it, Jokic!!!

@@samantharay6098 he is definitely best offensive player. Anyone other eho doesn't agree with that doesn't know enough basketball to talk about that...

@@hristijandimitrovski8664 Let's not forget MJ and KAJ played the game, he is definetly top3 though

@@Srbenda126 when we combine ability to score, ability to assist aaand ability to make offensive rebounds, I think Jokic is the greatest offensive player ever. Now I will mention few things that Jordan can't do as great as Jokic. Jokic is better 3 point shooter in regular season and for now he is MILES better 3 point shooter in play offs and he is center, just think about that. He is much more efficient scorer than Jordan and I don't want to heard the fact that he doesn't shoot all the time mid-range shots like Jordan does, he is a center, well guess what??? Shaq was the center with highest FG% in his career ever. Shaq never averaged 25 points on 60% from the field, never. Jokic this year did it on 64% from the field while taking much more threes and more mid-range shots than Shaq. And first of all, centers aren't supposed to shoot soo great from the free throw line like Jokic. Shaq was horrible free throw shooter, Dwight was even worse (nobody talks about that), Hakeem I'm not gonna say terrible, but he was not good at making them... Nikola Jokic makes 83% od his free throws as a center, he averages 55-56% from the field in his career and he averages 41,2% FROM 3 POINT RANGE IN HIS PLAY OFF CAREER on 4,4 attemps per game. That's astonishing, those numbers are from another universe. Combine all of that with the fact that Jokic is much productive passer than Jokic, he makes everyone around him with his passes better, everyone. And like I said he also grabes a lot of offensive rebounds which is part of his offensive game soo everything combined... Jokic is the most versatile offensive player ever. I'm not talking about scoring, to say he is the best scorer that's really, really debatable, there were many players in history who can put them ahead of Jokic right now when we talk about scoring, but when we talk abiut complete offensive package, that's it... There is nothing he can't do.

I been saying Jokic was better than Embiid since 2019. Jokic has an it Factor about his game & elevate his teammates to play at a high level ✌🏾💯

@@teddyblanco1898 Significant difference. Dude is making his teamates better,meanwhile Joel is throwing his under the bus.

Not the right color.

@@CharlieChompinChicken-ks5tw im all for calling out anti-white bias just as much as any other bias, but i am not seeing it here. this is easily explained by voter fatigue and other garden variety stuff without needing to pretend there's a racial angle that isnt there a racial angle to how some black people see things, yes, and also to how some of his white fans see things too, but thats just these ppl, not the mvp voters as a whole, and wgaf really about voters' awards or bs racialization, all that is noise

Please don't even compare Jokic to Kobe, they are polar opposites. Jokic is a selfless player that will sacrifice all to win. Kobe was a ball hog that never had a clue about what team ball means.

@@CharlieChompinChicken-ks5tw Kobe is also a 5 time champion hof legend...

@@CharlieChompinChicken-ks5tw Tell that to pau gasol

@@BruceL33Roy Sure he was on a team that won 5 times but he was the bus driver TWICE. During the 3peat Shaq was the man, not Kobe.

@@CharlieChompinChicken-ks5tw He still has more rings than Shaq and is regarded as a better player with a more successful career than Shaq. DWade was the bus driver in Shaqs last trip. And Kobe ran circles around Dwade any day of the week. 2nd Greatest SG behind MJ.

We gonna win it this year! 🍾

Giannis was better than Joker 2-3 yrs ago 2019-22 & was best player in the 🌎 - Joker just elevated his game to surpass him. Both Joker & Giannis as they climb to No1 spot & esp win a chip see the benefit to their game of having a reliable fit on court no2... Joker's got Murray back & Giannis had Middleton. But both have had to be on court to make their chip runs